Re: browsers!...@#!@$!$

[Joshua Zeidner]

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Craig White  wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 23:33 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote:
>> I just upgraded once again to FF3.  Its really buggy on Vista.
> 
> there is an obvious remedy for that

  not if everyone you work with uses MS tools.  ;)

  -jmz

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Re: browsers!...@#!@$!$

[Craig White]

On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 23:33 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote:
> I just upgraded once again to FF3.  Its really buggy on Vista.

there is an obvious remedy for that

Craig

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Re: browsers!...@#!@$!$

[Joshua Zeidner]

  I just upgraded once again to FF3.  Its really buggy on Vista.

  -jmz

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> UPGRADE your FIREFOX and run Noscript!
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>> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:24:14 -0700
>> From: eculb...@yahoo.com
>> Subject: browsers!...@#!@$!$
>> To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
>>
>>
>> Got 'stymied' with firefox registering at some site. just wouldn't open or
>> register/whatever. Ditto opera. So tried Konqueror. Got in. Later, in
>> firefox saw a 'welcome' on my email and logged into the site
>> withdrumroll Firefox!! Go figure!
>>
>> Grrr!
>>
>> Oh, well.
>>
>> 73
>>
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>>
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>> web at arrl.org for questions and http://www.kb0mga.net/exams/
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Re: browsers!...@#!@$!$

[Joshua Zeidner]

  I just upgraded once again to FF3.  Its really buggy on Vista.

  -jmz

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:25 PM, Lisa Kachold  wrote:
> UPGRADE your FIREFOX and run Noscript!
>
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>> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:24:14 -0700
>> From: eculb...@yahoo.com
>> Subject: browsers!...@#!@$!$
>> To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
>>
>>
>> Got 'stymied' with firefox registering at some site. just wouldn't open or
>> register/whatever. Ditto opera. So tried Konqueror. Got in. Later, in
>> firefox saw a 'welcome' on my email and logged into the site
>> withdrumroll Firefox!! Go figure!
>>
>> Grrr!
>>
>> Oh, well.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Ed/ke7feg Now that November is here, April can wait!
>>
>> On 2/23/2007 the morse code requirement was dropped for getting
>> a ham license. Now just pass the written exams which are on the
>> web at arrl.org for questions and http://www.kb0mga.net/exams/
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Re: browsers!...@#!@$!$

[Stephen]

you really are a fan of noscript :-)

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:25 PM, Lisa Kachold  wrote:
> UPGRADE your FIREFOX and run Noscript!
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>> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:24:14 -0700
>> From: eculb...@yahoo.com
>> Subject: browsers!...@#!@$!$
>> To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
>>
>>
>> Got 'stymied' with firefox registering at some site. just wouldn't open or
>> register/whatever. Ditto opera. So tried Konqueror. Got in. Later, in
>> firefox saw a 'welcome' on my email and logged into the site
>> withdrumroll Firefox!! Go figure!
>>
>> Grrr!
>>
>> Oh, well.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Ed/ke7feg Now that November is here, April can wait!
>>
>> On 2/23/2007 the morse code requirement was dropped for getting
>> a ham license. Now just pass the written exams which are on the
>> web at arrl.org for questions and http://www.kb0mga.net/exams/
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Re: OT: Itouch Browser

[Kurt Granroth]

Jim wrote:
> My wife is not satisfied with Safari as a browser on her Ipod Touch. 
> Are there any other browsers what will work?

That sort of depends on what your wife doesn't like about MobileSafari.
 See, Apple will not allow any alternative browsers (like Opera or the
upcoming Fennec) on the App Store.  In theory, they could be installed
on a jailbroken Touch or iPhone but in practice, I've never seen any.

There is a loophole to Apple's restrictions, though.  If you use the
Safari WebKit backend, then you can create your own UI for the browser.
 There are already quite a few on the App Store, all with their own
little quirks.  So if it's the UI features that are lacking, then you
could try one of the others.  If it's the underlying "crashes whenever
you go to complex pages" problem or the "can't visit pages with flash"
issue, then there's nothing that can be done.

Here's a brief review of some of the "legal" alternatives:

http://www.macworld.com/article/138409/2009/01/iphonebrowsers.html
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RE: How to recover X display? v.1.1

[Lisa Kachold]

Well, with PCLinuxOs, I believe that x had the video drivers packaged 
differently between versions, so it might not be so simple.

Anyone competent with PCLinuxOs might want to contact him off list and offer a 
phone session assist?

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> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:41:11 -0700
> From: danceswithcr...@usa.net
> To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> Subject: Re: How to recover X display? v.1.1
> 
> From: Josef Lowder 
> > On 3/24/09, Matt Graham  wrote:
> >> Are you on dialup? If you've got proper bandwidth,
> >> "dhclient eth0" or "dhcpcd eth0" should get a dynamic IP
> >> address provided eth0 is plugged in to something. 
> > I have DSL wireless and it was working fine before the crash.
> > Even now, when I boot up, I see lights blinking on the 3-COM
> > pci card, but since I can't see anything on F7 I can't use the
> > wireless connection that I think I have.
> 
> > And I don't know how to establish that connection on one of the
> > other F1-F6 command-line only terminals.
> 
> First find out what your NIC is called.  "iwconfig" should list
> all NICs, and the wired ones will say "no wireless extensions".
> So you might see:
> 
> eth0: no wireless extensions
> eth1: 802.11b/g ESSID "blah" Mode managed TxPower 89 FooBar 23
> [more settings like that]
> lo: no wireless extensions
> 
> Then, you do "dhcpcd eth1" if you have no encryption on and
> don't care which AP you connect to.  Things get more complex
> when you use WEP/WPA, but say which one you're using, and I or
> someone else will be able to tell you what's up.  Really, I'd
> take a length of Cat5 and plug the thing in, rather than deal
> with the hassle of wireless for this reasonably short experiment.
>  
> >> Fix the Net access and apt-get upgrade, and
> >> you should be good.  (I Could Be Wrong.)
> > Wish I could.
> 
> The stuff above may help.
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RE: browsers!...@#!@$!$

[Lisa Kachold]

UPGRADE your FIREFOX and run Noscript!

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> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:24:14 -0700
> From: eculb...@yahoo.com
> Subject: browsers!...@#!@$!$
> To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> 
> 
> Got 'stymied' with firefox registering at some site. just wouldn't open or 
> register/whatever. Ditto opera. So tried Konqueror. Got in. Later, in firefox 
> saw a 'welcome' on my email and logged into the site withdrumroll 
> Firefox!! Go figure!
> 
> Grrr!
> 
> Oh, well.
> 
> 73
> 
> Ed/ke7feg  Now that November is here, April can wait!
> 
> On 2/23/2007 the morse code requirement was dropped for getting 
> a ham license. Now just pass the written exams which are on the 
> web at arrl.org for questions and http://www.kb0mga.net/exams/
> 
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RE: How to recover X display? v.1.1

[Lisa Kachold]

Good job on the upgrade. 
It's never indicated to run a system in anything but a fully patched OS.

What is your system whining about (logs)?
Did you run the dpkg  reconfigure against x?

Remember to lay your logs on if different.
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> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:44:18 -0700
> Subject: Re: How to recover X display? v.1.1
> From: j...@actionline.com
> To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> 
> So now I have done a complete system update:
> 618 upgraded
> 198 newly installed
> 29 replaced
> 3 removed
> 5 not upgraded
> 766 MB of archives - after unpacking
> 47.3MB of add'l disk space used
> more than 2 hours of installing upgrades
> and the result ... drum roll ...
> 
> Still no X
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RE: How to recover X display? v.1.1

[Lisa Kachold]

If you cannot startx without still seeing the whining about the two video 
drivers mismatch, you do want to reconfigure your xserver.xorg and possibly 
rerun xconfigurator?  

It's certainly not going to hurt!
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> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:49:54 -0700
> Subject: Re: How to recover X display? v.1.1
> From: j...@actionline.com
> To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> 
> Forgot to mention:
> For PCLInuxOS, instead of this:
> >> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
> 
> sudo did not work for me, so searched further and
> from a PCLinuxOS source, I learned that as root I needed to do this:
> 
> apt-get clean && apt-get autoclean
> apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
> 
> From one of your previous replies, you included this:
> >> # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
> 
> Do I still need to do that?
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Re: How to recover X display? v.1.1

[Josef Lowder]

Forgot to mention:
For PCLInuxOS, instead of this:
>> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade

sudo did not work for me, so searched further and
from a PCLinuxOS source, I learned that as root I needed to do this:

apt-get clean && apt-get autoclean
apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade

>From one of your previous replies, you included this:
>> # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Do I still need to do that?
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Re: How to recover X display? v.1.1

[Josef Lowder]

So now I have done a complete system update:
618 upgraded
198 newly installed
29 replaced
3 removed
5 not upgraded
766 MB of archives - after unpacking
47.3MB of add'l disk space used
more than 2 hours of installing upgrades
and the result ... drum roll ...

Still no X
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browsers!...@#!@$!$

[eculbert]

Got 'stymied' with firefox registering at some site. just wouldn't open or 
register/whatever. Ditto opera. So tried Konqueror. Got in. Later, in firefox 
saw a 'welcome' on my email and logged into the site withdrumroll 
Firefox!! Go figure!

Grrr!

Oh, well.

73

Ed/ke7feg  Now that November is here, April can wait!

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Re: How to recover X display? v.1.1

[Josef Lowder]

On 3/24/09, Matt Graham  wrote:
> Really, I'd take a length of Cat5 and plug the thing in, rather than deal
>  with the hassle of wireless for this reasonably short experiment.

Duh, why couldn't I have at least thought of that?

Thanks again Matt.  The Cat5 wired connection worked instantly,
so I'll try doing an apt-get  full system update on my PCLinuxOS setup
and see where that leads.
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Re: How to recover X display? v.1.1

[Matt Graham]

From: Josef Lowder 
> On 3/24/09, Matt Graham  wrote:
>> Are you on dialup? If you've got proper bandwidth,
>> "dhclient eth0" or "dhcpcd eth0" should get a dynamic IP
>> address provided eth0 is plugged in to something. 
> I have DSL wireless and it was working fine before the crash.
> Even now, when I boot up, I see lights blinking on the 3-COM
> pci card, but since I can't see anything on F7 I can't use the
> wireless connection that I think I have.

> And I don't know how to establish that connection on one of the
> other F1-F6 command-line only terminals.

First find out what your NIC is called.  "iwconfig" should list
all NICs, and the wired ones will say "no wireless extensions".
So you might see:

eth0: no wireless extensions
eth1: 802.11b/g ESSID "blah" Mode managed TxPower 89 FooBar 23
[more settings like that]
lo: no wireless extensions

Then, you do "dhcpcd eth1" if you have no encryption on and
don't care which AP you connect to.  Things get more complex
when you use WEP/WPA, but say which one you're using, and I or
someone else will be able to tell you what's up.  Really, I'd
take a length of Cat5 and plug the thing in, rather than deal
with the hassle of wireless for this reasonably short experiment.
 
>> Fix the Net access and apt-get upgrade, and
>> you should be good.  (I Could Be Wrong.)
> Wish I could.

The stuff above may help.

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Re: How to recover X display? v.1.1

[Josef Lowder]

On 3/24/09, Matt Graham  wrote:
> Are you on dialup? If you've got proper bandwidth,
> "dhclient eth0" or "dhcpcd eth0" should get a dynamic IP
> address provided eth0 is plugged in to something.

I have DSL wireless and it was working fine before the crash.
Even now, when I boot up, I see lights blinking on the 3-COM
pci card, but since I can't see anything on F7 I can't use the
wireless connection that I think I have.

And I don't know how to establish that connection on one of the
other F1-F6 command-line only terminals.

> Fix the Net access and apt-get upgrade, and
>  you should be good.  (I Could Be Wrong.)

Wish I could.
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Fwd: [FSF] March 25 is Document Freedom Day

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Remember that this Wednesday, March 25, is Document Freedom Day. 

Please visit  and see what you can do to
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Also see  for information about
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Re: How to recover X display? v.1.1

[Matt Graham]

From: Josef Lowder 
> On 3/24/09, Lisa Kachold  wrote:
>> Post installation of Virtualbox, your Xorg logs say what? 
> www.upquick.com/view/Xorg.0.log

That one doesn't have any errors in it, though.  The .9 log
has the "v4l version mismatch" error in it, but the others
don't.  Very strange.

> www.upquick.com/view/xorg.conf

That looks fine to me, though I'd use "radeon" instead of "ati", 
because ati is really for driving Mach64 cards, although it will
load radeon or r128 if it detects a Radeon or Rage128 card.
 
>> # sudo Xconfigurator
> I can't find 'Xconfigurator' on the system, don't think I have it.

The X config is fine, except it's loading v4l (and maybe other modules)
that have the wrong versions.  I suppose you could comment out v4l,
glx, and dri, restart X, and see if it works--that'd take 5 minutes.
(It's totally hork up compiz-fusion, but you should get X back.)  The
non-distro-specific way of generating a good X config file is to back
up an existing xorg.conf , then "X -configure", then edit the xorg.conf
that gets generated and change the default color depth to something
other than 8.  It's not insanely great, but it does work.
 
>> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
>> # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
> Wish I could, but I don't know how to get an internet connection
> with only command line access.

Are you on dialup?  That'd be semi-annoying, but should be possible.
You'd need to do something with wvdial or the pppd config though.
The last time I used dialup was 5 years ago.  If you've got proper
bloody bandwidth, "dhclient eth0" or "dhcpcd eth0" should get a
dynamic IP address provided eth0 is plugged in to something.

> Here are some other files that I copied from the laptop,

Heck.  From what I can tell, the problem is X and X's modules not
being the same version.  Fix the Net access and apt-get upgrade, and
you should be good.  (I Could Be Wrong.)

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Re: How to recover X display? v.1.1

[Josef Lowder]

On 3/24/09, Lisa Kachold  wrote:
> Post installation of Virtualbox, your Xorg logs say what?

www.upquick.com/view/Xorg.0.log

   42660 Apr 14  2007 Xorg.1.log.old
   45158 Mar 19  2008 Xorg.1.log
   14929 Mar 22 23:28 Xorg.9.log
   14294 Mar 23 10:35 Xorg.0.log.old
   14493 Mar 23 10:36 Xorg.0.log

I also copied this file:   2974 Apr  6  2007 xorg.conf
It can be viewed at this link:
www.upquick.com/view/xorg.conf

> First try this:
> # sudo Xconfigurator
> You can try to configure your monitor and video card for X via this utility.
> Might work, it's worth a try...[but not highly probable].

I can't find 'Xconfigurator' on the system, don't think I have it.

> 2) Update/upgrade your system, although this might have been what caused it.
> sudo apt-get update
> sudo apt-get upgrade
> # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Wish I could, but I don't know how to get an internet connection
with only command line access.

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Here are some other files that I copied from the laptop,
(thanks to Matt's explanation of how to get the USB flash stick mounted)
Have not yet uploaded any of these to a web page, but could if they might help.

1408 Mar 21 13:53 vbox-install.log
7073 Mar 22 04:02 warnings.1.gz
   22570 Mar 22 04:02 info.1.gz
 790 Mar 22 04:02 errors.1.gz
 1008834 Mar 23 17:10 messages
   13947 Mar 23 17:10 dmesg
  16 Mar 23 17:14 kernel.errors
   34511 Mar 23 17:15 warnings
  588685 Mar 23 17:15 info
  829597 Mar 23 17:15 errors
1032 Mar 23 17:21 mar22logs
4022 Mar 23 17:29 vbox.files
 972 Mar 23 17:36 boot.dirlist
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Re: How to recover X display? v.1.1

[Josef Lowder]

Lisa, thank you profusely for all of your "far beyond the extra mile"
efforts to help me solve this matter.  I will get back to work on this
asap and follow all of your suggestions.  It may take me a while to
get back to this because this laptop is not a mission-critical unit
and I have to get caught up on my regular work on my old reliable
computer before I resume work on trying to get the laptop going again.

Again, I sincerely appreciate all of your help!

Many, many thanks.

Joe


On 3/24/09, Lisa Kachold  wrote:
>
>  Corrections in red:
>
>  Not exactly
> I apologise, I was reading for context, and make sense from within a wealth
> of 22 years of Nix experience.
> The link is describing difficulty with v41/ABI drivers within Virtualbox
> booting into X via PCLinuxOS.  When you build a virtualbox client, the
> xdrivers modules are created also; sometimes when one installs Virtualbox
> (and/or Xen), they decide to run their first system in a virtual under the
> OS, which is then described as primary in the grub configuration via the new
> kernel that was built during install (which might cause an X and kernel
> module mismatch).  For instance under Redhat/XEN this is usually what is
> called a PAE kernel.  You, after installing Virtualbox, verified that you
> are still running the same kernel from grub.conf?  You can also look at the
> file creation date for the kernel that is indicated to boot first into the
> grub configuration.
> Post installation of Virtualbox, your Xorg logs say what?
>
> If I remember correctly Xorg was whining we needed a couple of video
> modules?  Irregardless of whether you are now running in a VirtualBox or
> not:
>
> a) boot fails to go to X
> b) you can't startx
> Solutions:
>
> 1) You can try to boot into your system and reconfigure your X drivers via
> command line?
> First try this:
> # sudo Xconfigurator
> You can try to configure your monitor and video card for X via this utility.
> Might work, it's worth a try...[but not highly probable].
>
> 2) Update/upgrade your system, although this might have been what caused it.
>  There are some major differences between the way that X uses kernel drivers
> for video cards in recent versions.
> http://distrowatch.com/index.php?distribution=all&month=all&year=2009
>
> sudo apt-get update
> sudo apt-get upgrade
>
> 3) Kernel modules and X drivers
> Your Xorg errors talked about two drivers:
> module ABI major version (1) doesn't match server's version (2)
> failed to load module "v41" (module requirement mismatch,0)
> # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
> 4) Revert your failed system
>
> If these questions do not make sense, and you can't either fix the driver
> errors or roll back the changes made adding virtualbox source, it would be
> easiest for you to just rebuild.  Download a new ISO from distrowatch (or a
> new OS) and burn it to CD (or DVD if you have that luxury) carefully
> selecting the i386/686 versions and drop the hammer on this failed learning
> project, and go on to bigger and better things!
> After you rebuild your shiny new system, keep your BUILD DVD/CD, so you can
> use it to boot emergency for trouble/rebuild.  Always keep a record of all
> steps that are done, (especially updates, etc. and test between upgrade
> installation steps) for packaging the issues for others.
>
> 5) If all this fails, take your box back to the InstallFesters and/or call
> one of us.
>
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>
>
> > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:38:32 -0700
> > Subject: Re: How to recover X display?
> > From: j...@actionline.com
> > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> >
> > Now, I'm even more thoroughly confused.
> >
> > On 3/23/09, Lisa Kachold  wrote:
> > >
> http://reformedmusings.wordpress.com/2008/12/11/installing-sun-virtualbox-6-guest-additions-in-linux-guests/
> >
> > This is describing installing PCLinuxOS as a virtual machine inside a
> > working Ubuntu-VirtualBox setup ... which doesn't seem to have
> > anything to do with trying to get my installed PCLinuxOS system X
> > recovered.
> >
> > The article says: "Guest Additions installs from a CD iso file.
> >
> > I don't have any CD iso for this.
> >
> > The article then says: "So, we need to load the iso as a CD in our
> > virtual machine.
> > For this, the virtual machine must be shut down (powered off)."
> >
> > There is no way I can do this when my basic machine is not working.
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RE: How to recover X display? v.1.1

[Lisa Kachold]

Corrections in red:








Not exactly
I apologise, I was reading for context, and make sense from within a wealth of 
22 years of Nix experience.
The link is describing difficulty with v41/ABI drivers within Virtualbox 
booting into X via PCLinuxOS.  When you build a virtualbox client, the xdrivers 
modules are created also; sometimes when one installs Virtualbox (and/or Xen), 
they decide to run their first system in a virtual under the OS, which is then 
described as primary in the grub configuration via the new kernel that was 
built during install (which might cause an X and kernel module mismatch).  For 
instance under Redhat/XEN this is usually what is called a PAE kernel.  You, 
after installing Virtualbox, verified that you are still running the same 
kernel from grub.conf?  You can also look at the file creation date for the 
kernel that is indicated to boot first into the grub configuration. 
Post installation of Virtualbox, your Xorg logs say what?

If I remember correctly Xorg was whining we needed a couple of video modules?  
Irregardless of whether you are now running in a VirtualBox or not:

a) boot fails to go to X
b) you can't startx
Solutions:

1) You can try to boot into your system and reconfigure your X drivers via 
command line?
First try this:  
# sudo Xconfigurator 
You can try to configure your monitor and video card for X via this utility.
Might work, it's worth a try...[but not highly probable].

2) Update/upgrade your system, although this might have been what caused it.  
There are some major differences between the way that X uses kernel drivers for 
video cards in recent versions.  
http://distrowatch.com/index.php?distribution=all&month=all&year=2009

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade

3) Kernel modules and X drivers
Your Xorg errors talked about two drivers:
module ABI major version (1) doesn't match server's version (2)
failed to load module "v41" (module requirement mismatch,0)
# sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg 
4) Revert your failed system If these questions do not make sense, and you 
can't either fix the driver errors or roll back the changes made adding 
virtualbox source, it would be easiest for you to just rebuild.  Download a new 
ISO from distrowatch (or a new OS) and burn it to CD (or DVD if you have that 
luxury) carefully selecting the i386/686 versions and drop the hammer on this 
failed learning project, and go on to bigger and better things!
After you rebuild your shiny new system, keep your BUILD DVD/CD, so you can use 
it to boot emergency for trouble/rebuild.  Always keep a record of all steps 
that are done, (especially updates, etc. and test between upgrade installation 
steps) for packaging the issues for others.

5) If all this fails, take your box back to the InstallFesters and/or call one 
of us.

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> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:38:32 -0700
> Subject: Re: How to recover X display?
> From: j...@actionline.com
> To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> 
> Now, I'm even more thoroughly confused.
> 
> On 3/23/09, Lisa Kachold  wrote:
> > http://reformedmusings.wordpress.com/2008/12/11/installing-sun-virtualbox-6-guest-additions-in-linux-guests/
> 
> This is describing installing PCLinuxOS as a virtual machine inside a
> working Ubuntu-VirtualBox setup ... which doesn't seem to have
> anything to do with trying to get my installed PCLinuxOS system X
> recovered.
> 
> The article says: "Guest Additions installs from a CD iso file.
> 
> I don't have any CD iso for this.
> 
> The article then says: "So, we need to load the iso as a CD in our
> virtual machine.
> For this, the virtual machine must be shut down (powered off)."
> 
> There is no way I can do this when my basic machine is not working.
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RE: How to recover X display?

[Lisa Kachold]

Not exactly
I apologise, I was reading for context, and make sense from within a wealth of 
22 years of Nix experience.
The link is describing difficulty with v41/ABI drivers within Virtualbox 
booting into X via PCLinuxOS.  When you build a virtualbox client, the xdrivers 
modules are created also; sometimes when one installs Virtualbox (and/or Xen), 
they decide to run their first system in a virtual under the OS, which is then 
described as primary in the grub configuration via the new kernel that was 
built during install (which might cause an X and kernel module mismatch).  For 
instance under Redhat/XEN this is usually what is called a PAE kernel.  You, 
after installing Virtualbox, verified that you are still running the same 
kernel from grub.conf?  You can also look at the file creation date for the 
kernel that is indicated to boot first into the grub configuration. 
Post installation of Virtualbox, your Xorg logs say what?

If I remember correctly Xorg was whining we needed a couple of kernel modules?  
Irregardless of whether you are now running in a VirtualBox or not, this post 
matches what is happening to you?  
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=611644
a) boot fails to go to X
b) you can't startx
Solutions:
1) You can try to boot into your system and reconfigure your X drivers via 
command line?
First try this:  
# sudo Xconfigurator 
You can try to configure your monitor and video card for X via this utility.
Might work, it's worth a try...[but not highly probable].
2) Update/upgrade your system, although this might have been what caused it.  
There are some major differences between the way that X uses kernel drivers for 
video cards in recent versions.  
http://distrowatch.com/index.php?distribution=all&month=all&year=2009
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade

3) Kernel modules and X drivers
Your Xorg errors talked about two drivers:
module ABI major version (1) doesn't match server's version (2)
failed to load module "v41" (module requirement mismatch,0)
# sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg 
4) Revert your failed system If these questions do not make sense, and you 
can't either fix the driver errors or roll back the changes made adding 
virtualbox source, it would be easiest for you to just rebuild.  Download a new 
ISO from distrowatch (or a new OS) and burn it to CD (or DVD if you have that 
luxury) carefully selecting the i386/686 versions and drop the hammer on this 
failed learning project, and go on to bigger and better things!
After you rebuild your shiny new system, keep your BUILD DVD/CD, so you can use 
it to boot emergency for trouble/rebuild.  Always keep a record of all steps 
that are done, (especially updates, etc. and test between upgrade installation 
steps) for packaging the issues for others.
5) If all this fails, take your box back to the InstallFesters and/or call one 
of us.
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> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:38:32 -0700
> Subject: Re: How to recover X display?
> From: j...@actionline.com
> To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> 
> Now, I'm even more thoroughly confused.
> 
> On 3/23/09, Lisa Kachold  wrote:
> > http://reformedmusings.wordpress.com/2008/12/11/installing-sun-virtualbox-6-guest-additions-in-linux-guests/
> 
> This is describing installing PCLinuxOS as a virtual machine inside a
> working Ubuntu-VirtualBox setup ... which doesn't seem to have
> anything to do with trying to get my installed PCLinuxOS system X
> recovered.
> 
> The article says: "Guest Additions installs from a CD iso file.
> 
> I don't have any CD iso for this.
> 
> The article then says: "So, we need to load the iso as a CD in our
> virtual machine.
> For this, the virtual machine must be shut down (powered off)."
> 
> There is no way I can do this when my basic machine is not working.
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