Re: Need help for Installfest

2009-09-25 Thread Thomas Cameron
I would say go with RHEL for $99:
https://www.redhat.com/apps/store/developers/

It comes with a real RHEL subscription so there's no munging around with
CentOS.

On 09/24/2009 03:45 PM, Stephen wrote:
> I have never done it. But i would suggest Centos based on the
> following link from oracle
> http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub/articles/smiley_10gdb_install.html
> 
> unless he has any of the paid stuff that oracle "lists"
> 
> and 
> http://www.oracle-base.com/articles/10g/OracleDB10gR2RACInstallationOnCentos4UsingVMware.php
> adds some handy info, but it is set up to install on Centos4 in a VM,
> skip the VM and you should be fine.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Dazed_75  wrote:
>> We have someone coming Saturday to install Linux and Oracle 10g on his
>> laptop in order to explore and learn about using Oracle.  He has 40GB of the
>> drive set aside for this (windows on the other 40 GB).   I know nothing
>> about Oracle so it would help to have someone come who could give advice,
>> handle the Oracle install, and chat with him about his goals.
>>
>> --
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>>
>> The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions,
>> that I wish it always to be kept alive.
>>  - Thomas Jefferson
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Re: Bulk HTML mailing

2009-09-25 Thread keith smith


I would use an auto responder service.  Mose have built in tools that will help 
you design HTML emails.

http://www.aweber.com/  is very popular.

http://www.icontact.com/  This one seem to be good.

http://emailaces.com/ is a low end provider.

Hope this helps. 




Keith Smith


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> From: Craig White 
> Subject: Bulk HTML mailing
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
> Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 3:28 PM
> I have a customer that thinks he
> wants to try bulk e-mail to generate
> sales. I had nothing to do with this.
> 
> He hired some graphic artist who of course creates a single
> jpg file
> which is useless.
> 
> Now I have to create an html file that we can mail.
> 
> My limited knowledge of this remembers something about
> Mozilla Seamonkey
> as about the only tool I can assemble an e-mail that will
> actually work.
> Has this changed? Are there other tools available to create
> the html
> e-mail?
> 
> Craig
> 
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Re: Need help for Installfest

2009-09-25 Thread Joseph Sinclair
I'll be there in the afternoon, possibly earlier.  I haven't done a 10g 
install, but I've installed Oracle a few times for 7/8/9.

Dazed_75 wrote:
> Would it be possible for one of you to attend to help him?  I just don't
> have that kind of knowledge.
> 
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:58 PM, James Mcphee  wrote:
> 
>> I've installed oracle 10g on centos, but I needed an xserver to do it.  I
>> think you can get the express version without, but at that point why not
>> just load the oracle express appliance?  It'll all depend on what he
>> actually wants to do with it, I guess.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Stephen  wrote:
>>
>>> I have never done it. But i would suggest Centos based on the
>>> following link from oracle
>>> http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub/articles/smiley_10gdb_install.html
>>>
>>> unless he has any of the paid stuff that oracle "lists"
>>>
>>> and
>>> http://www.oracle-base.com/articles/10g/OracleDB10gR2RACInstallationOnCentos4UsingVMware.php
>>> adds some handy info, but it is set up to install on Centos4 in a VM,
>>> skip the VM and you should be fine.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Dazed_75  wrote:
 We have someone coming Saturday to install Linux and Oracle 10g on his
 laptop in order to explore and learn about using Oracle.  He has 40GB of
>>> the
 drive set aside for this (windows on the other 40 GB).   I know nothing
 about Oracle so it would help to have someone come who could give
>>> advice,
 handle the Oracle install, and chat with him about his goals.

 --
 Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry

 The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain
>>> occasions,
 that I wish it always to be kept alive.
  - Thomas Jefferson

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LinuxCon 2009 Photos and Videos

2009-09-25 Thread Lisa Kachold
LinuxCon video snippets and stills:

http://www.obnosis.com/linuxcon2009/  && http://www.youtube.com/LisaKachold

[Mass Uploading now - Check after Saturday AM]

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RE: Nokia N900

2009-09-25 Thread Bob Elzer
Here's the original discussion..
http://lists.plug.phoenix.az.us/lurker/thread/20090831.193415.5df4e42d.en.ht
ml#20090831.193415.5df4e42d


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[mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of
stor...@storkus.com
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 3:46 PM
To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Nokia N900

I'm very surprised no one has brought this device up for discussion yet!
 It would appear to blow away the current Android and OpenMoko devices by
packing a 600 MHz ARM proc, 256MB DRAM, a huge wad of flash, 802.11bg AND
bluetooth, and--biggest of all--quad-band GSM AND a 3G radio compatible with
T-Mobile USA.  It also has USB2 and, curiously (I don't know exactly what it
is) "TV-Out".  On the software side, it runs their distro called Maemo
which, GUI-wise, has Qt at the core, though you can still run GTK apps like
its predecessor the N810.  It's almost entirely free software and hackable,
one of the biggest ones that aren't is macromedia flash being included
(presumably so you can play Youtube video--I couldn't see playing flash
games on an ARM...).

The way I (and a lot of others) see it, this is like the early OLPC's or
eeepc's in terms of horsepower and (somewhat) memory.  More than one person
out there has suggested it could be used as a sort of hand-held file server.
The geek in me is going even more nuts over buying this than the Sheevaplug
since I could obviously do so much more with it. 
The few reviewers that have gotten their hands on it so far were mostly
morons that obviously couldn't fathom the potential that could be unlocked
from it.  For instance, the keyboard gets griped at a lot.  So?
 Get one of those roll-up USB keyboards from Thinkgeek: since it's a
lightweight distro (Busybox was explicitly mentioned) and (hopefully
full) kernel in there, I would presume that USBHID hasn't been neutered.

So what do you all think?  My current phone (a Motorola V3xx) is still
working ok, and the N900 is nowhere near cheap...but, damn, it's making me
drool!  Should I get it or not?  Are one of you planning on it?

Mike

P.S. Another thing not discussed here: Slackware-13's out. :)
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Re: Nokia N900

2009-09-25 Thread Stephen
That's because American cell companies won't sell a phone that has
been locked into crappyness for some reason

If ever anyone does the unlocked phone freindly network they are going
to have a boggleinh influx of tech users


On 9/25/09, huerta...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Actually it was last month. :P I said I wanted one to make iPhone users
> jealous of my flash playback. Alas, there's no sign of when if at all it
> will be available stateside. :(
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry Slowphone provided by Allfail
>
> -Original Message-
> From: stor...@storkus.com
>
> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:46:03
> To: Main PLUG discussion list
> Subject: Nokia N900
>
>
> I'm very surprised no one has brought this device up for discussion yet!
>  It would appear to blow away the current Android and OpenMoko devices
> by packing a 600 MHz ARM proc, 256MB DRAM, a huge wad of flash, 802.11bg
> AND bluetooth, and--biggest of all--quad-band GSM AND a 3G radio
> compatible with T-Mobile USA.  It also has USB2 and, curiously (I don't
> know exactly what it is) "TV-Out".  On the software side, it runs their
> distro called Maemo which, GUI-wise, has Qt at the core, though you can
> still run GTK apps like its predecessor the N810.  It's almost entirely
> free software and hackable, one of the biggest ones that aren't is
> macromedia flash being included (presumably so you can play Youtube
> video--I couldn't see playing flash games on an ARM...).
>
> The way I (and a lot of others) see it, this is like the early OLPC's or
> eeepc's in terms of horsepower and (somewhat) memory.  More than one
> person out there has suggested it could be used as a sort of hand-held
> file server.  The geek in me is going even more nuts over buying this
> than the Sheevaplug since I could obviously do so much more with it.
> The few reviewers that have gotten their hands on it so far were mostly
> morons that obviously couldn't fathom the potential that could be
> unlocked from it.  For instance, the keyboard gets griped at a lot.  So?
>  Get one of those roll-up USB keyboards from Thinkgeek: since it's a
> lightweight distro (Busybox was explicitly mentioned) and (hopefully
> full) kernel in there, I would presume that USBHID hasn't been neutered.
>
> So what do you all think?  My current phone (a Motorola V3xx) is still
> working ok, and the N900 is nowhere near cheap...but, damn, it's making
> me drool!  Should I get it or not?  Are one of you planning on it?
>
> Mike
>
> P.S. Another thing not discussed here: Slackware-13's out. :)
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Re: Nokia N900

2009-09-25 Thread huertanix
Actually it was last month. :P I said I wanted one to make iPhone users jealous 
of my flash playback. Alas, there's no sign of when if at all it will be 
available stateside. :(

Sent from my BlackBerry Slowphone provided by Allfail

-Original Message-
From: stor...@storkus.com

Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:46:03 
To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Nokia N900


I'm very surprised no one has brought this device up for discussion yet!
 It would appear to blow away the current Android and OpenMoko devices
by packing a 600 MHz ARM proc, 256MB DRAM, a huge wad of flash, 802.11bg
AND bluetooth, and--biggest of all--quad-band GSM AND a 3G radio
compatible with T-Mobile USA.  It also has USB2 and, curiously (I don't
know exactly what it is) "TV-Out".  On the software side, it runs their
distro called Maemo which, GUI-wise, has Qt at the core, though you can
still run GTK apps like its predecessor the N810.  It's almost entirely
free software and hackable, one of the biggest ones that aren't is
macromedia flash being included (presumably so you can play Youtube
video--I couldn't see playing flash games on an ARM...).

The way I (and a lot of others) see it, this is like the early OLPC's or
eeepc's in terms of horsepower and (somewhat) memory.  More than one
person out there has suggested it could be used as a sort of hand-held
file server.  The geek in me is going even more nuts over buying this
than the Sheevaplug since I could obviously do so much more with it. 
The few reviewers that have gotten their hands on it so far were mostly
morons that obviously couldn't fathom the potential that could be
unlocked from it.  For instance, the keyboard gets griped at a lot.  So?
 Get one of those roll-up USB keyboards from Thinkgeek: since it's a
lightweight distro (Busybox was explicitly mentioned) and (hopefully
full) kernel in there, I would presume that USBHID hasn't been neutered.

So what do you all think?  My current phone (a Motorola V3xx) is still
working ok, and the N900 is nowhere near cheap...but, damn, it's making
me drool!  Should I get it or not?  Are one of you planning on it?

Mike

P.S. Another thing not discussed here: Slackware-13's out. :)
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Nokia N900

2009-09-25 Thread storkus
I'm very surprised no one has brought this device up for discussion yet!
 It would appear to blow away the current Android and OpenMoko devices
by packing a 600 MHz ARM proc, 256MB DRAM, a huge wad of flash, 802.11bg
AND bluetooth, and--biggest of all--quad-band GSM AND a 3G radio
compatible with T-Mobile USA.  It also has USB2 and, curiously (I don't
know exactly what it is) "TV-Out".  On the software side, it runs their
distro called Maemo which, GUI-wise, has Qt at the core, though you can
still run GTK apps like its predecessor the N810.  It's almost entirely
free software and hackable, one of the biggest ones that aren't is
macromedia flash being included (presumably so you can play Youtube
video--I couldn't see playing flash games on an ARM...).

The way I (and a lot of others) see it, this is like the early OLPC's or
eeepc's in terms of horsepower and (somewhat) memory.  More than one
person out there has suggested it could be used as a sort of hand-held
file server.  The geek in me is going even more nuts over buying this
than the Sheevaplug since I could obviously do so much more with it. 
The few reviewers that have gotten their hands on it so far were mostly
morons that obviously couldn't fathom the potential that could be
unlocked from it.  For instance, the keyboard gets griped at a lot.  So?
 Get one of those roll-up USB keyboards from Thinkgeek: since it's a
lightweight distro (Busybox was explicitly mentioned) and (hopefully
full) kernel in there, I would presume that USBHID hasn't been neutered.

So what do you all think?  My current phone (a Motorola V3xx) is still
working ok, and the N900 is nowhere near cheap...but, damn, it's making
me drool!  Should I get it or not?  Are one of you planning on it?

Mike

P.S. Another thing not discussed here: Slackware-13's out. :)
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Re: a Karmic Koala Goodness

2009-09-25 Thread Dazed_75
Actually, my experience has been the opposite recently.  It seems some
features (especially some WiFi unfortunately) don't work on the Live CD but
do once properly installed.  I would imagine the experience can go either
way depending on the specific hardware and distro and release.

Most of the time though there is no difference other than speed which is
very fortunate.

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:27 PM, mike havens  wrote:

> it seems to me that distros run better when run live rather than when
> installed. That is just my experience though.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Stephen  wrote:
>
>> interesting tidbit.
>>
>> thx
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Dazed_75  wrote:
>> > Last month I gave a talk at the East Side meeting and talked about
>> netbooks
>> > and using different distributions.  All seemed to have issues even if
>> they
>> > were mostly resolvable.  I downloaded the Ubuntu Netbook Remix Alpha 6
>> > version of Karmic Koala and made a live USB stick.  That booted up on my
>> > ASUS eeePC 1000 and everything worked out of the box including the
>> webcam,
>> > bluetooth (even for the MS 5000 bluetooth mouse), and touchpad.  While
>> it
>> > did not already include anything to totally turn off the touchpad, it
>> could
>> > turn it off while typing.
>> >
>> > Now I was able to crash it, but it was still the alpha phase and I only
>> ran
>> > it from the stick without installing so that was not a surprise.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry
>> >
>> > The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain
>> occasions,
>> > that I wish it always to be kept alive.
>> >  - Thomas Jefferson
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Re: Need help for Installfest

2009-09-25 Thread Dazed_75
Would it be possible for one of you to attend to help him?  I just don't
have that kind of knowledge.

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:58 PM, James Mcphee  wrote:

> I've installed oracle 10g on centos, but I needed an xserver to do it.  I
> think you can get the express version without, but at that point why not
> just load the oracle express appliance?  It'll all depend on what he
> actually wants to do with it, I guess.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Stephen  wrote:
>
>> I have never done it. But i would suggest Centos based on the
>> following link from oracle
>> http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub/articles/smiley_10gdb_install.html
>>
>> unless he has any of the paid stuff that oracle "lists"
>>
>> and
>> http://www.oracle-base.com/articles/10g/OracleDB10gR2RACInstallationOnCentos4UsingVMware.php
>> adds some handy info, but it is set up to install on Centos4 in a VM,
>> skip the VM and you should be fine.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Dazed_75  wrote:
>> > We have someone coming Saturday to install Linux and Oracle 10g on his
>> > laptop in order to explore and learn about using Oracle.  He has 40GB of
>> the
>> > drive set aside for this (windows on the other 40 GB).   I know nothing
>> > about Oracle so it would help to have someone come who could give
>> advice,
>> > handle the Oracle install, and chat with him about his goals.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry
>> >
>> > The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain
>> occasions,
>> > that I wish it always to be kept alive.
>> >  - Thomas Jefferson
>> >
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