Re: quiet
I could on my comodore64 that was like a giant laptop. 2010/1/10 Ryan Rix r...@n.rix.si On Sun 10 January 2010 9:43:56 pm mike havens wrote: I can't disconnect the keyboard laptop. I can on my thinkpad :^) -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat writer New Mail address: phrkonale...@gmail.com - r...@n.rix.si !! http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Open-Hardware-Centric Group Forming in the Valley
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 10:31 PM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote: Am 10. Jan, 2010 schwätzte Alan Dayley so: The reality is that there are now a great many different groups and events in the Phoenix valley. Each of them could attract the some of the same sorts of people as the others. And there are so many it is no longer possible to have a certain evening reserved for any one event. There are lots of days open. This is the second event they've scheduled the same night as a nearby event that has now been going for over a decade. No, there are not. Monday - As the beginning of the work week, no group chooses Monday because it kills attendance before you even start. See Friday. Tuesday-Thursday - These are the much preferred days for an evening tech gathering. Friday - As the end of the work week, no group choose Friday because that's when everyone parties or whatever. See Monday. Saturday-Sunday - These usually are for longer events that take several hours. So, we have three days in the middle of the week to have an evening meeting. 12 days per month. Just 12. A sampling of groups and topics from those meeting regularly in the Phoenix valley taken from http://meetupstogoto.com: Refocus Phoenix: Third Wednesday of every month Social Media Club: Second Thursday of every month Stealthmode Partners: Second Monday of every month Creative Coffee: Last Tuesday of every month Phoenix OpenCoffee: Every Thursday morning Gangplank: Hacknight on Wednesdays Creative Connect: Second Tuesday of every month AIGA Arizona Radiate Phoenix Pecha Kucha: Phoenix Phoenix InDesign User Group Web Design Development Group: Third Monday of every month ASP.NET User Group: Second Tuesday of every month Arizona SharePoint Professionls Group: Last Thursday of every month Arizona Security Practitioners Forum: Fourth Monday of every month Silverlight User Group: First Wednesday of every month Phoenix Android Developers Meeting: Fourth Thursday of every month Xcode Phoenix - Cocoa and OSX Developer Group: Second Thursday of every month SQL Server Users Group: Second Wednesday of every month Phoenix Rails Phoenix Ruby User Group: Second Monday of each month Arizona Flash Platform User Group: Fourth Wednesday of every month Arizona Coldfusion User Group: Fourth Wednesday of every month Phoenix Linux User Group: Dev - First Thursday, East - Second Thursday, West - Fourth Wednesday of every month Phoenix Java User Group: Second Wednesday of every month Arizona PHP User Group: Fourth Tuesday of every month Phoenix Python User Group Arizona Macintosh User Group Southeast Valley .NET User Group: Fourth Thursday of the month Phoenix Linux User Group: Four meetings a month Phoenix iPhone: First Wednesday of every month NSCoder Night: Every Tuesday Startup Drinks: Second Tuesday and last Thursday of every month TiE Arizona: Second Wednesday of every month, quarterly mixers Markamp Tiny Army: First Wednesday of every month Phoenix SEO Meetup Group Arizona Media Buzz American Marketing Association - Phoenix Chapter: Fourth Wednesday of every month Enterprise Network: Third Thursday of every month Phoenix Friday Nights: Every Friday And that is not all of the groups in Phoenix. And that's ignoring more traditional business groups in which some of the PLUG audience may be involved. Overlap will happen. Just have to keep offering quality stuff and people will come if they are interested. I see this as a good thing. More choice, more energy, more community. I see it as annoying. Intentional conflicting times is not community building. Intentional? You're saying HeatSync Labs researched when PLUG was meeting and purposefully chose the same day just to conflict with PLUG. I don't believe that at all. They chose a day that worked for their needs and the venue schedule. Alan --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Thu topics: new mobile devices
moin moin, There are lots and lots of new mobile devices coming out running Linux. If you've got an n900, Pre, Droid, Nexxus One, Always Innovating Touch Book, ZII Trinity, Emblaze First Else, Spica I5700, etc please bring it along and share your experiences with the device. What rocks? What sucks? Can you ssh in and play nethack? :) If you have experience developing for one or more of the devices we'd love to hear about them from that perspective as well. ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/Classeshttp://www.TwoGeekTechs.com/ # Director of Engineering, FonWallet Transaction Solutions, Inc. # I eat only free-range vegetables that were hunted down and slain by # a member of my immediate family. -- der.hans --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: new IRC meetings
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Alan Dayley ala...@consultpros.com wrote: It's on my calendar! Alan On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 4:19 PM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote: moin moin, I'm starting a new IRC meeting on the first and third Sunday of the month at 20:00. The first meeting will be next Sunday. The meetings are explicitly for planning PLUG activities and working on PLUG activities and infrastructure. Be prepared to help out if you show up. We will meet in the normal PLUG channel, #PLUGaz on Freenode. irc.Freenode.net #PLUGaz 20:00 on first and third Sunday of the month. Here's a web interface for Freenode. http://webchat.freenode.net/ This is the same time ABLEconf meetings were taking place. Second and fourth Sundays will be for ABLEconf in the future, so there is a basis for the times I chose :). ciao, der.hans -- It's on my calendar too - but 8PM on Sunday? I don't know if I will always be able to make it. See you Thursday Ed --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: quiet
Mike - bad news, my comodore64 sounds like you are - sorry :( On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 2:18 AM, mike havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I could on my comodore64 that was like a giant laptop. 2010/1/10 Ryan Rix r...@n.rix.si On Sun 10 January 2010 9:43:56 pm mike havens wrote: I can't disconnect the keyboard laptop. I can on my thinkpad :^) -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat writer New Mail address: phrkonale...@gmail.com - r...@n.rix.si !! http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash | Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: quiet
This whole thread made me think. if you cant detect your keyboard... remove the mittens... you should be able to detect it just fine :-) On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Ed p...@0x1b.com wrote: Mike - bad news, my comodore64 sounds like you are - sorry :( On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 2:18 AM, mike havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I could on my comodore64 that was like a giant laptop. 2010/1/10 Ryan Rix r...@n.rix.si On Sun 10 January 2010 9:43:56 pm mike havens wrote: I can't disconnect the keyboard laptop. I can on my thinkpad :^) -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat writer New Mail address: phrkonale...@gmail.com - r...@n.rix.si !! http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash | Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Thu topics: new mobile devices
Might want to add HTC's Hero to the mix!!! Jon der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote: moin moin, There are lots and lots of new mobile devices coming out running Linux. If you've got an n900, Pre, Droid, Nexxus One, Always Innovating Touch Book, ZII Trinity, Emblaze First Else, Spica I5700, etc please bring it along and share your experiences with the device. What rocks? What sucks? Can you ssh in and play nethack? :) If you have experience developing for one or more of the devices we'd love to hear about them from that perspective as well. ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/Classeshttp://www.TwoGeekTechs.com/ # Director of Engineering, FonWallet Transaction Solutions, Inc. # I eat only free-range vegetables that were hunted down and slain by # a member of my immediate family. -- der.hans --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Open-Hardware-Centric Group Forming in the Valley
Am 11. Jan, 2010 schwätzte Alan Dayley so: I didn't mean to imply they were targetting a PLUG event. I think that's how it came across to you. More below. On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 10:31 PM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote: Am 10. Jan, 2010 schwätzte Alan Dayley so: The reality is that there are now a great many different groups and events in the Phoenix valley. Each of them could attract the some of the same sorts of people as the others. And there are so many it is no longer possible to have a certain evening reserved for any one event. There are lots of days open. This is the second event they've scheduled the same night as a nearby event that has now been going for over a decade. No, there are not. Monday - As the beginning of the work week, no group chooses Monday because it kills attendance before you even start. See Friday. Tuesday-Thursday - These are the much preferred days for an evening tech gathering. Friday - As the end of the work week, no group choose Friday because that's when everyone parties or whatever. See Monday. Saturday-Sunday - These usually are for longer events that take several hours. So, we have three days in the middle of the week to have an evening meeting. 12 days per month. Just 12. Still lots of days. I think Mondays are still an option, but due to holidays they might require flexibility. Stealthmode Partners: Second Monday of every month See, that's a Monday. Guess they're just trying to hide :). And that is not all of the groups in Phoenix. And that's ignoring more traditional business groups in which some of the PLUG audience may be involved. Overlap will happen. Just have to keep offering quality stuff and people will come if they are interested. There can be effort to avoid overlap. I didn't say there hadn't been some effort. Effort or not, the conflict is annoying. I see it as annoying. Intentional conflicting times is not community building. Intentional? You're saying HeatSync Labs researched when PLUG was meeting and purposefully chose the same day just to conflict with PLUG. I don't believe that at all. They chose a day that worked for their needs and the venue schedule. I'm saying they knew about the PLUG meeting and chose to schedule that night anyway. I wasn't implying that they looked at a list of nights with nearby PLUG meetings and chose from that list. Conflicting, not targetting :). Still annoying, but I wasn't attributing malice. ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/Classeshttp://www.TwoGeekTechs.com/ # Director of Engineering, FonWallet Transaction Solutions, Inc. # Take a razor to your throat # and a noose to your neck, # then follow that up with a cup of poison. # Not a good way to start the day. - der.hans--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Distro Release: BackTrack 4
Hey, Everyone's favorite hack-n-slash security distro's been updated. http://www.offensive-security.com/blog/backtrack/backtrack-4-final-release/ It's a LiveDVD now, and based on Ubuntu, rather than the Slax livecd scripts. Have fun! -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat writer New Mail address: phrkonale...@gmail.com - r...@n.rix.si !! http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
HackFest Series: Presentation Interweb Exposed Tuesday January 12, 2010 6:30 PM John C. Lincoln Hospital Cowden Center
Yes. that's the same BT4 distro we have been using to build pentest jump drive boot tools for our Hackfesters every month? That's the same distro that the existing presentations materials were developed for at: http://plug.phoenix.az.us/security And I believe that I posted that same message to the PLUG list 18 months ago when BT4 it was pre-released. Phoenix Linux User Group HackFest Presentation January 12, 2010 6:30PM at John C. Lincoln Hospital Cowden Center Join the Penguins of the Desert on Tues January 12, 2010 at 18:30 at John C. Lincoln's Cowden Center http://plug.phoenix.az.us/security/ January is Interweb Exposed as we trounce and tackle more of the common myths of OSI security in a lab format, using tools from Linux Distributions. This month we will also look at Chaos, a nice little tool set for the professional and novice alike. SSDP, UPNP interwebs, multicast magic, and Miredo for home networking from across the internet using encaps ipv6 ipv4 nat are reviewed for sheer fun of it. See you there - http://plug.phoenix.az.us/security On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Ryan Rix r...@n.rix.si wrote: Hey, Everyone's favorite hack-n-slash security distro's been updated. http://www.offensive-security.com/blog/backtrack/backtrack-4-final-release/ It's a LiveDVD now, and based on Ubuntu, rather than the Slax livecd scripts. Have fun! -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat writer New Mail address: phrkonale...@gmail.com - r...@n.rix.si !! http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash | Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Skype: (623)239-3392 ATT: (503)754-4452 http://obnosis.110mb.com/nuke/index.php http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Arizona --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: quiet
this thread eludes my senses On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: This whole thread made me think. if you cant detect your keyboard... remove the mittens... you should be able to detect it just fine :-) On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Ed p...@0x1b.com wrote: Mike - bad news, my comodore64 sounds like you are - sorry :( On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 2:18 AM, mike havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I could on my comodore64 that was like a giant laptop. 2010/1/10 Ryan Rix r...@n.rix.si On Sun 10 January 2010 9:43:56 pm mike havens wrote: I can't disconnect the keyboard laptop. I can on my thinkpad :^) -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat writer New Mail address: phrkonale...@gmail.com - r...@n.rix.si !! http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
