MySQL reporting question

2010-06-22 Thread der.hans

moin moin,

t1: t1id, varchar1, stuff
t2: t2id, timestamp, varchar1, varchar2, status

I need to match the most recently entered status from t2 with stuff from
t1 in MySQL.

t2 is grouped by varchar2.

t1 will have millions of rows. t2 has millions of rows and will grow at 4
or 5 times the rate of t1. t2.varchar1 will often be NULL. Non-NULL values
will mostly match up with t1.varchar1. t1.varchar1 can not be NULL.
varchar2 is a clustering of information about varchar1, but usually only
one entry in the cluster will have a value for varchar1.

t1.stuff, t2.status == $some_val where max(t2.timestamp) and t1.varchar1
== t2.varchar1 and t2.varchar2 == t2.varchar2

This is for reporting and will run on a slave.

Any suggestions on how to efficiently build out the report? Unlike my last
DB job, I can create indexes, views, etc.

I can also add columns to either table.

ciao,

der.hans
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Re: MySQL reporting question

2010-06-22 Thread Bryan O'Neal
Without any other details it seems simple, just create indexes on any
join or where column, setup a slave box for data warehousing purposes,
run the simple SQL

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:09 PM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote:
 moin moin,

 t1: t1id, varchar1, stuff
 t2: t2id, timestamp, varchar1, varchar2, status

 I need to match the most recently entered status from t2 with stuff from
 t1 in MySQL.

 t2 is grouped by varchar2.

 t1 will have millions of rows. t2 has millions of rows and will grow at 4
 or 5 times the rate of t1. t2.varchar1 will often be NULL. Non-NULL values
 will mostly match up with t1.varchar1. t1.varchar1 can not be NULL.
 varchar2 is a clustering of information about varchar1, but usually only
 one entry in the cluster will have a value for varchar1.

 t1.stuff, t2.status == $some_val where max(t2.timestamp) and t1.varchar1
 == t2.varchar1 and t2.varchar2 == t2.varchar2

 This is for reporting and will run on a slave.

 Any suggestions on how to efficiently build out the report? Unlike my last
 DB job, I can create indexes, views, etc.

 I can also add columns to either table.

 ciao,

 der.hans
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Re: OT: HowTo Gpartd Windows Mirrored Drives to Expand Usable Space?

2010-06-22 Thread Stephen
how were they mirrored? firmware or software?

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com wrote:
 Gee,

 Anyone know an easy tool or procedure to make a standard Laptop C and D
 drive no longer mirrored instead 2 usable drives?

 I heard a rumor that you can boot into say Knoppix and use gpartd?

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Re: OT: HowTo Gpartd Windows Mirrored Drives to Expand Usable Space?

2010-06-22 Thread Lisa Kachold
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 how were they mirrored? firmware or software?

 On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com
 wrote:
  Gee,
 
  Anyone know an easy tool or procedure to make a standard Laptop C and D
  drive no longer mirrored instead 2 usable drives?
 
  I heard a rumor that you can boot into say Knoppix and use gpartd?
 
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Standard DELL laptop configuration!  I believe it's NTSF?
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Breaking in to a Harddrive

2010-06-22 Thread James Finstrom
Greetings All,

So my dad bought a Hitachi Travelstar 5K100 and apparently the drive is
password locked at a hardware level and requires some sort of voodoo to
report back anything other than vendor data. Anyway I guess there is a byte
code you send to the drive and then a password then you live happily ever
after. Needless to say we don't have the password. I am sure there is data
on the drive but none that we own so don't care if all data is lost. Looking
for suggestions on breaking in or clearing the drive. Again total data loss
is ok.  Tried DD in case it was in the partition table and no dice..

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Re: OT: HowTo Gpartd Windows Mirrored Drives to Expand Usable Space?

2010-06-22 Thread Stephen
ntfs software mirror should pretty much be broken once you pull it out
of its host OS/environment. unless they did 2 partitions on one drive
and then mirrored them. but in any of those cases the data should be
100% accessible mirror or no.


On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com wrote:


 On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 how were they mirrored? firmware or software?

 On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com
 wrote:
  Gee,
 
  Anyone know an easy tool or procedure to make a standard Laptop C and D
  drive no longer mirrored instead 2 usable drives?
 
  I heard a rumor that you can boot into say Knoppix and use gpartd?
 
  --
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  ATT: (503)754-4452
 

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Re: Breaking in to a Harddrive

2010-06-22 Thread Stephen
get the Hitachi drive diagnostics and see if you can write 0's to the
drive or contact Hitachi support or contact the seller of the drive

thats about all i can think of, because firmware level passwords are
pretty hard to circumvent.

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:51 AM, James Finstrom
jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com wrote:
 Greetings All,
 So my dad bought a Hitachi Travelstar 5K100 and apparently the drive is
 password locked at a hardware level and requires some sort of voodoo to
 report back anything other than vendor data. Anyway I guess there is a byte
 code you send to the drive and then a password then you live happily ever
 after. Needless to say we don't have the password. I am sure there is data
 on the drive but none that we own so don't care if all data is lost. Looking
 for suggestions on breaking in or clearing the drive. Again total data loss
 is ok.  Tried DD in case it was in the partition table and no dice..

 --
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MySQL reporting question

2010-06-22 Thread R P Herrold

On Mon, 21 Jun 2010, der.hans wrote:


I need to match the most recently entered status from t2 with stuff from
t1 in MySQL.



t1.stuff, t2.status == $some_val where max(t2.timestamp) and t1.varchar1
== t2.varchar1 and t2.varchar2 == t2.varchar2



I can also add columns to either table.


ugghhh -- you mention MySQL in the subject line, but just 
because one has a hammer does not mean everything is a nail. 
The MySQL database server kernel engine can use a journal and 
serialization of transactions to attain ACID.  This can slow 
things down a lot if used


There is the 'new' interest in 'eventually consistent' 
databases.  Can you use 'almost the latest' data?  [some 
problem domains do not admit a use case permitting this, but 
some do: consider: DNS which might update detail all the way 
through only every couple of weeks in some cases]


I would take a hint and amend my code to emit both the insert 
to t1 AND a destructive update write to 'last seen' location 
outside of the database.  A strict SQL approach is gonna kill 
you on retrieval time and lock serialization


This avoids that killing JOIN

I would also generate a hash of t1.varchar1, t2.varchar1, 
t2.varchar2 and t2.varchar2 as each is written and as you are 
sorting (selecting, but ... ) on max(t2.timestamp) and 
generate a series of the first four directory permuted values, 
each in their own tree, and spread that across sufficient 
spindles that the write and read load performance can keep up


As this point we need to look at the structure for the problem 
domain

t1.stuff, t2.status == $some_val
and we lack enough to design further the structures needed ...

I had to automate precompution of 'cribs' of subsets of data 
and pre-populate a cache for a call center application I wote, 
to keep up with the database read load on one project.  If I 
were doing it again, I would drill in even more 'out of 
database' cacheing


Financial markets data is often like this -- one needs very 
fast access to arbitrary data, and usually just the latest 
trade or the lastest day's trade data; after that it is 
merely of less time critical access needs.  We recently spent 
several months with the trading-shim working in this area


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Re: Breaking in to a Harddrive

2010-06-22 Thread Bryan O'Neal
The last time this happened to me I just sent the drive back to the
manufacturer under RMA and received a new drive in about a week.

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:
 get the Hitachi drive diagnostics and see if you can write 0's to the
 drive or contact Hitachi support or contact the seller of the drive

 thats about all i can think of, because firmware level passwords are
 pretty hard to circumvent.

 On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:51 AM, James Finstrom
 jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com wrote:
 Greetings All,
 So my dad bought a Hitachi Travelstar 5K100 and apparently the drive is
 password locked at a hardware level and requires some sort of voodoo to
 report back anything other than vendor data. Anyway I guess there is a byte
 code you send to the drive and then a password then you live happily ever
 after. Needless to say we don't have the password. I am sure there is data
 on the drive but none that we own so don't care if all data is lost. Looking
 for suggestions on breaking in or clearing the drive. Again total data loss
 is ok.  Tried DD in case it was in the partition table and no dice..

 --
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Re: MySQL reporting question

2010-06-22 Thread Bryan O'Neal
If your going to drop acid drop mysql and use Casandra. I hate
Casandra because it makes no attempt at being acid complaint but it is
the best of your high performance eventually/mostly consistent
databases.  Mind you I think anyone who thinks not using an ACID
complaint database is a good idea did one to many hits of acid and is
now locked in a permenait halucination / delision - OR - just does not
give a $#*! about thier data. But your also talking to an accountant
who would have a kaniption is his $1.5Millon books were off by a
nickle and other may not care quite so much about their business.

That being said with MySQL you can set up replication very easily and
just run your reporting off of the replication box. Thus you can
devoting all of your resources to a single query without worry.  In
addition if you are using an INnoDB engine vs a MyIsam engine your
joins are far less expensive. In addition using inner joins vs
subquerys is much faster. And if you have many tables you can increase
performance by creating temp tables and views but again, you need to
understand your dealing with cached data so design as appropriate.

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 9:05 AM, R P Herrold herr...@owlriver.com wrote:
 On Mon, 21 Jun 2010, der.hans wrote:

 I need to match the most recently entered status from t2 with stuff from
 t1 in MySQL.

 t1.stuff, t2.status == $some_val where max(t2.timestamp) and t1.varchar1
 == t2.varchar1 and t2.varchar2 == t2.varchar2

 I can also add columns to either table.

 ugghhh -- you mention MySQL in the subject line, but just because one has a
 hammer does not mean everything is a nail. The MySQL database server kernel
 engine can use a journal and serialization of transactions to attain ACID.
  This can slow things down a lot if used

 There is the 'new' interest in 'eventually consistent' databases.  Can you
 use 'almost the latest' data?  [some problem domains do not admit a use case
 permitting this, but some do: consider: DNS which might update detail all
 the way through only every couple of weeks in some cases]

 I would take a hint and amend my code to emit both the insert to t1 AND a
 destructive update write to 'last seen' location outside of the database.  A
 strict SQL approach is gonna kill you on retrieval time and lock
 serialization

 This avoids that killing JOIN

 I would also generate a hash of t1.varchar1, t2.varchar1, t2.varchar2 and
 t2.varchar2 as each is written and as you are sorting (selecting, but ... )
 on max(t2.timestamp) and generate a series of the first four directory
 permuted values, each in their own tree, and spread that across sufficient
 spindles that the write and read load performance can keep up

 As this point we need to look at the structure for the problem domain
        t1.stuff, t2.status == $some_val
 and we lack enough to design further the structures needed ...

 I had to automate precompution of 'cribs' of subsets of data and
 pre-populate a cache for a call center application I wote, to keep up with
 the database read load on one project.  If I were doing it again, I would
 drill in even more 'out of database' cacheing

 Financial markets data is often like this -- one needs very fast access to
 arbitrary data, and usually just the latest trade or the lastest day's trade
 data; after that it is merely of less time critical access needs.  We
 recently spent several months with the trading-shim working in this area

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Re: OT: HowTo Gpartd Windows Mirrored Drives to Expand Usable Space?

2010-06-22 Thread Eric Shubert

Lisa Kachold wrote:

Gee,

Anyone know an easy tool or procedure to make a standard Laptop C and D 
drive no longer mirrored instead 2 usable drives?


I heard a rumor that you can boot into say Knoppix and use gpartd?

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ATT: (503)754-4452



That doesn't sound right. Are you sure that the drive D is a mirror, and 
not a recovery partition? Mirroring to a separate partition on the same 
drive would seem to me to be pointless, and I've never heard of a Laptop 
with 2 HDDs.


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Re: OT: HowTo Gpartd Windows Mirrored Drives to Expand Usable Space?

2010-06-22 Thread Stephen
I have built several including a few with 3 drives in raid 5. they do
exist, just not common unless you get into some of the more desktop
replacement systems. most mainstream Tier 1/2 vendors just use one to
save space/cost/complexity

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:
 Lisa Kachold wrote:

 Gee,

 Anyone know an easy tool or procedure to make a standard Laptop C and D
 drive no longer mirrored instead 2 usable drives?

 I heard a rumor that you can boot into say Knoppix and use gpartd?

 --
 Office: (480)307-8707
 ATT: (503)754-4452


 That doesn't sound right. Are you sure that the drive D is a mirror, and not
 a recovery partition? Mirroring to a separate partition on the same drive
 would seem to me to be pointless, and I've never heard of a Laptop with 2
 HDDs.

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Re: Breaking in to a Harddrive

2010-06-22 Thread Jim March
A warning: in my experience and that of others of late, Hitachi drives
aren't that good.  Worse than Samsung.  Nowhere near as good as WD or
Seagate.  I wouldn't trust a Hitachi for anything really important.

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Re: Breaking in to a Harddrive

2010-06-22 Thread Bryan O'Neal
Ah remember we used to call them the death star drive - because they
would burn out hot and fast :)

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Jim March 1.jim.ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 A warning: in my experience and that of others of late, Hitachi drives
 aren't that good.  Worse than Samsung.  Nowhere near as good as WD or
 Seagate.  I wouldn't trust a Hitachi for anything really important.

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Re: Breaking in to a Harddrive

2010-06-22 Thread Jim March
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Bryan O'Neal
bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com wrote:
 Ah remember we used to call them the death star drive - because they
 would burn out hot and fast :)

We're at a point now where brand new WD drives of respectable but not
cutting-edge size are so damn cheap it's not funny.  Honestly, if your
time is halfway valuable and you have $80 or often even less (check
NewEgg) it's worth using good stuff.

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Re: Breaking in to a Harddrive

2010-06-22 Thread Bryan O'Neal
Ah remember we used to call them the death star drive - because they
would burn out hat and fast :)

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Jim March 1.jim.ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 A warning: in my experience and that of others of late, Hitachi drives
 aren't that good.  Worse than Samsung.  Nowhere near as good as WD or
 Seagate.  I wouldn't trust a Hitachi for anything really important.

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Re: OT: HowTo Gpartd Windows Mirrored Drives to Expand Usable Space?

2010-06-22 Thread Eric Shubert
I should think that'd put a real strain on the battery. Unless of course 
they're SSDs. :)


Stephen wrote:

I have built several including a few with 3 drives in raid 5. they do
exist, just not common unless you get into some of the more desktop
replacement systems. most mainstream Tier 1/2 vendors just use one to
save space/cost/complexity

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:

Lisa Kachold wrote:

Gee,

Anyone know an easy tool or procedure to make a standard Laptop C and D
drive no longer mirrored instead 2 usable drives?

I heard a rumor that you can boot into say Knoppix and use gpartd?

--
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ATT: (503)754-4452


That doesn't sound right. Are you sure that the drive D is a mirror, and not
a recovery partition? Mirroring to a separate partition on the same drive
would seem to me to be pointless, and I've never heard of a Laptop with 2
HDDs.

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Re: OT: HowTo Gpartd Windows Mirrored Drives to Expand Usable Space?

2010-06-22 Thread Stephen
Desktop replacements aren't known for battery life.. unless you count
the shortest possible... SLI graphics raided HDD and sometimes Desktop
CPU's you get the idea.

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:
 I should think that'd put a real strain on the battery. Unless of course
 they're SSDs. :)

 Stephen wrote:

 I have built several including a few with 3 drives in raid 5. they do
 exist, just not common unless you get into some of the more desktop
 replacement systems. most mainstream Tier 1/2 vendors just use one to
 save space/cost/complexity

 On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:

 Lisa Kachold wrote:

 Gee,

 Anyone know an easy tool or procedure to make a standard Laptop C and D
 drive no longer mirrored instead 2 usable drives?

 I heard a rumor that you can boot into say Knoppix and use gpartd?

 --
 Office: (480)307-8707
 ATT: (503)754-4452

 That doesn't sound right. Are you sure that the drive D is a mirror, and
 not
 a recovery partition? Mirroring to a separate partition on the same drive
 would seem to me to be pointless, and I've never heard of a Laptop with 2
 HDDs.

 --
 -Eric 'shubes'

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Re: OT: HowTo Gpartd Windows Mirrored Drives to Expand Usable Space?

2010-06-22 Thread Eric Shubert

More like 'portable' than 'laptop' then, I suppose.
I refer to mine as a 'deskbook'. ;)

Stephen wrote:

Desktop replacements aren't known for battery life.. unless you count
the shortest possible... SLI graphics raided HDD and sometimes Desktop
CPU's you get the idea.

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:

I should think that'd put a real strain on the battery. Unless of course
they're SSDs. :)

Stephen wrote:

I have built several including a few with 3 drives in raid 5. they do
exist, just not common unless you get into some of the more desktop
replacement systems. most mainstream Tier 1/2 vendors just use one to
save space/cost/complexity

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:

Lisa Kachold wrote:

Gee,

Anyone know an easy tool or procedure to make a standard Laptop C and D
drive no longer mirrored instead 2 usable drives?

I heard a rumor that you can boot into say Knoppix and use gpartd?

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That doesn't sound right. Are you sure that the drive D is a mirror, and
not
a recovery partition? Mirroring to a separate partition on the same drive
would seem to me to be pointless, and I've never heard of a Laptop with 2
HDDs.

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New Linux server at home

2010-06-22 Thread Stephen
just set up a new Linux server, just recently demoed my xenserver and
moved it into a new case... dropped the optical and in all tons
quieter

but my main purpose in this email is what sort of services do people
run at home and what do they do with them.

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Re: New Linux server at home

2010-06-22 Thread keith smith
I have an old Dell that is over 5 years old.  It was my wife's desktop until 
about 3 years ago.  I added some RAM and put Fedora on it and have been using 
it on a daily basis as a LAMP dev server.

I have been thinking about a new box though, since it is over 5 years old and I 
use it for my work.



Keith Smith

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From: Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com
Subject: New Linux server at home
To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 1:32 PM

just set up a new Linux server, just recently demoed my xenserver and
moved it into a new case... dropped the optical and in all tons
quieter

but my main purpose in this email is what sort of services do people
run at home and what do they do with them.

-- 
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Re: New Linux server at home

2010-06-22 Thread Stephen
I have an old Socket 775 Server board i might trade/sell PDSMA+ or PDSMI i
think. If your interested let me know.

but mine has been in service for about 4 years now. I added some drives and
changes its chassis to one that makes less noise but still the same guts
inside (also gave it a good dusting)

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 1:40 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I have an old Dell that is over 5 years old.  It was my wife's desktop
 until about 3 years ago.  I added some RAM and put Fedora on it and have
 been using it on a daily basis as a LAMP dev server.

 I have been thinking about a new box though, since it is over 5 years old
 and I use it for my work.

 
 Keith Smith

 --- On *Tue, 6/22/10, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com* wrote:


 From: Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com
 Subject: New Linux server at home
 To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
 Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 1:32 PM

 just set up a new Linux server, just recently demoed my xenserver and
 moved it into a new case... dropped the optical and in all tons
 quieter

 but my main purpose in this email is what sort of services do people
 run at home and what do they do with them.

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Re: New Linux server at home

2010-06-22 Thread Technomage
normally, its just file (smb) and printer sharing. Those tend to be the 
biggies and a home user with more
than one machine in the house might employ. the more advanced geeks 
among that group would
use something more esoteric (like opendirectory or some other single 
sign on authentication and syncing
package). Us mac users (of which I am one) prefer afp over smb but both 
are usable.


On 6/22/10 1:32 PM, Stephen wrote:

just set up a new Linux server, just recently demoed my xenserver and
moved it into a new case... dropped the optical and in all tons
quieter

but my main purpose in this email is what sort of services do people
run at home and what do they do with them.

   


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Re: OT: HowTo Gpartd Windows Mirrored Drives to Expand Usable Space?

2010-06-22 Thread walter tocalini
Just go to windows control panel - administrative tools computer
management -disk management and disble the mirror and your second
drive will be clean for whatever you like to do---no data lost on the
primary drive
o whatever version of windows this machine have- your place to work is disk
management

command line tool id call Diskpart.

now be sure that you have a mirror because when you do that it is only on
drive C, or one drive with 2 partition , then will be C and D, and if you
have that mirror with a second drive, then you have C and D
I understand that you're aware of that, but again, are you sure that has two
drives,

with gparted, it have a live cd that is able to work with drive mirror and
change that, but it is better to do it within windows app.

unless that whatever that computer have it is not important, you can try it,
but is faster and simpler from disk management,
now i got a question which laptop brand provide the ability of use 2 drives,
unless that you use docking stations I never see one,

well good luck

Walter Tocalini

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Desktop replacements aren't known for battery life.. unless you count
 the shortest possible... SLI graphics raided HDD and sometimes Desktop
 CPU's you get the idea.

 On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:
  I should think that'd put a real strain on the battery. Unless of course
  they're SSDs. :)
 
  Stephen wrote:
 
  I have built several including a few with 3 drives in raid 5. they do
  exist, just not common unless you get into some of the more desktop
  replacement systems. most mainstream Tier 1/2 vendors just use one to
  save space/cost/complexity
 
  On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:
 
  Lisa Kachold wrote:
 
  Gee,
 
  Anyone know an easy tool or procedure to make a standard Laptop C and
 D
  drive no longer mirrored instead 2 usable drives?
 
  I heard a rumor that you can boot into say Knoppix and use gpartd?
 
  --
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  ATT: (503)754-4452
 
  That doesn't sound right. Are you sure that the drive D is a mirror,
 and
  not
  a recovery partition? Mirroring to a separate partition on the same
 drive
  would seem to me to be pointless, and I've never heard of a Laptop with
 2
  HDDs.
 
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Re: New Linux server at home

2010-06-22 Thread Eric Shubert

Stephen wrote:

just set up a new Linux server, just recently demoed my xenserver and
moved it into a new case... dropped the optical and in all tons
quieter

but my main purpose in this email is what sort of services do people
run at home and what do they do with them.



I expect to see more personal mail servers in the future.
http://qmailtoaster.com will get you up and running in no time.
I know that qmail is frowned upon by some, but QMT 'just works'.
I'm active in the QMT community, so I'm biased (but for good reasons). ;)
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Re: New Linux server at home

2010-06-22 Thread Eric Cope
I run a FreeBSD box for OpenVPN, file server, and SVN server. its an old
celeron with 512MB of ram.

Eric

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 1:40 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I have an old Dell that is over 5 years old.  It was my wife's desktop
 until about 3 years ago.  I added some RAM and put Fedora on it and have
 been using it on a daily basis as a LAMP dev server.

 I have been thinking about a new box though, since it is over 5 years old
 and I use it for my work.

 
 Keith Smith

 --- On *Tue, 6/22/10, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com* wrote:


 From: Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com
 Subject: New Linux server at home
 To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
 Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 1:32 PM


 just set up a new Linux server, just recently demoed my xenserver and
 moved it into a new case... dropped the optical and in all tons
 quieter

 but my main purpose in this email is what sort of services do people
 run at home and what do they do with them.

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 rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.

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Re: New Linux server at home

2010-06-22 Thread Stephen
downside to this one is the filtering Cox applies to email services.

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:
 Stephen wrote:

 just set up a new Linux server, just recently demoed my xenserver and
 moved it into a new case... dropped the optical and in all tons
 quieter

 but my main purpose in this email is what sort of services do people
 run at home and what do they do with them.


 I expect to see more personal mail servers in the future.
 http://qmailtoaster.com will get you up and running in no time.
 I know that qmail is frowned upon by some, but QMT 'just works'.
 I'm active in the QMT community, so I'm biased (but for good reasons). ;)
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OT: Google Voice available to everyone

2010-06-22 Thread Stephen P Rufle

http://www.google.com/googlevoice/about.html

Was talking to der.hans about this last week. He mentioned that it might 
be a while before it was out of beta :). Well look at that its available 
to everyone now.


I got a number that is 480 - XXX - JAVA.
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Re: New Linux server at home

2010-06-22 Thread keith smith

Everything I've read says qmail is a heavy hitter. 



Keith Smith

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From: Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net
Subject: Re: New Linux server at home
To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 2:57 PM

Stephen wrote:
 just set up a new Linux server, just recently demoed my xenserver and
 moved it into a new case... dropped the optical and in all tons
 quieter
 
 but my main purpose in this email is what sort of services do people
 run at home and what do they do with them.
 

I expect to see more personal mail servers in the future.
http://qmailtoaster.com will get you up and running in no time.
I know that qmail is frowned upon by some, but QMT 'just works'.
I'm active in the QMT community, so I'm biased (but for good reasons). ;)
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Re: OT: Google Voice available to everyone

2010-06-22 Thread Stephen
HAHA cute.

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stephen.p.ru...@cox.net wrote:
 http://www.google.com/googlevoice/about.html

 Was talking to der.hans about this last week. He mentioned that it might be
 a while before it was out of beta :). Well look at that its available to
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Re: New Linux server at home

2010-06-22 Thread Stephen
well the server is a x3210 2.13 quad core xeon with 4gb ram and 4x160 sata2
hdd in raid 10 and 2x400 gb sata2 RE in a mirror.


i think its got some spare resources.

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 4:07 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Everything I've read says qmail is a heavy hitter.

 
 Keith Smith

 --- On *Tue, 6/22/10, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net* wrote:


 From: Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net
 Subject: Re: New Linux server at home
 To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
 Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 2:57 PM

 Stephen wrote:
  just set up a new Linux server, just recently demoed my xenserver and
  moved it into a new case... dropped the optical and in all tons
  quieter
 
  but my main purpose in this email is what sort of services do people
  run at home and what do they do with them.
 

 I expect to see more personal mail servers in the future.
 http://qmailtoaster.com will get you up and running in no time.
 I know that qmail is frowned upon by some, but QMT 'just works'.
 I'm active in the QMT community, so I'm biased (but for good reasons). ;)
 -- -Eric 'shubes'

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Re: New Linux server at home

2010-06-22 Thread keith smith

How can you - you can configure your server to use cox for your outbound 
messages 

Do you connect to their SMTP server and look like a client?



Keith Smith

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From: Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net
Subject: Re: New Linux server at home
To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 3:53 PM

They simply block the std ports, and there are ways around that.

You don't need to run a full-fledged domain right off the bat though. You might 
start with a private mail server that you can use IMAP with, so you can access 
your email from all of your devices (multiple computers, phone, etc), and the 
devices all see your email the same way (ie you file/delete something from one 
device, it's filed/deleted on all of them). You can run fetchmail on your 
private server to fetch email from your other accounts, and you can configure 
your server to use cox for your outbound messages.

-- -Eric 'shubes'

Stephen wrote:
 downside to this one is the filtering Cox applies to email services.
 
 On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:
 Stephen wrote:
 just set up a new Linux server, just recently demoed my xenserver and
 moved it into a new case... dropped the optical and in all tons
 quieter
 
 but my main purpose in this email is what sort of services do people
 run at home and what do they do with them.
 
 I expect to see more personal mail servers in the future.
 http://qmailtoaster.com will get you up and running in no time.
 I know that qmail is frowned upon by some, but QMT 'just works'.
 I'm active in the QMT community, so I'm biased (but for good reasons). ;)
 --
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Re: New Linux server at home

2010-06-22 Thread JD Austin
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 16:16, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote:


 How can you - you can configure your server to use cox for your outbound
 messages

 Do you connect to their SMTP server and look like a client?


 
 Keith Smith

 The setup varies depending on which mail server you're running.
Google smarthost  and the mail server you're using (such as exim,
postfix,qmail or sendmail)
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Re: New Linux server at home

2010-06-22 Thread keith smith
Not a resource hog.  I meant it can handle the load.  As I recall, I read that 
qmail is rather efficient. 



Keith Smith

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From: Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: New Linux server at home
To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 4:14 PM

well the server is a x3210 2.13 quad core xeon with 4gb ram and 4x160 sata2 hdd 
in raid 10 and 2x400 gb sata2 RE in a mirror.

i think its got some spare resources.



On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 4:07 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote:



Everything I've read says qmail is a heavy hitter. 



Keith Smith

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From: Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net
Subject: Re: New Linux server at home
To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us


Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 2:57 PM

Stephen wrote:
 just set up a new Linux server, just recently demoed my xenserver and
 moved it into a new case... dropped the optical and in all tons
 quieter


 
 but my main purpose in this email is what sort of services do people
 run at home and what do they do with them.
 

I expect to see more personal mail servers in the future.
http://qmailtoaster.com will get you up and running in no time.


I know that qmail is frowned upon by some, but QMT
 'just works'.
I'm active in the QMT community, so I'm biased (but for good reasons). ;)
-- -Eric 'shubes'

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Re: New Linux server at home

2010-06-22 Thread keith smith

That would come in handy.  I have a LAMP server on a private IP that I use for 
software dev.  I can test almost everything except the parts that send mail 
out.  When I get to that point I move the code to a test server.

I've tried to configure a mail server in the past and have found it difficult 
at best. I never seem to figure out where to start.



Keith Smith

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From: Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: New Linux server at home
To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 4:18 PM

The concept of it is called an SMTP smarthost, basically you point your SMTP 
server directly to theirs.

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 4:16 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote:



How can you - you can configure your server to use cox for your outbound 
messages 



Do you connect to their SMTP server and look like a client?



Keith Smith

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From: Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net
Subject: Re: New Linux server at home
To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us


Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 3:53 PM

They simply block the std ports, and there are ways around that.

You don't need to run a full-fledged domain right off the bat though. You might 
start with a private mail server that you can use IMAP with, so you can access 
your email from all of your devices (multiple computers, phone, etc), and the 
devices all see your email the same way (ie you file/delete something from one 
device, it's filed/deleted on all of them). You can run fetchmail on your 
private server to fetch email from your other accounts, and you can configure 
your server to use cox for
 your outbound messages.

-- -Eric 'shubes'

Stephen wrote:
 downside to this one is the filtering Cox applies to email services.
 
 On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:


 Stephen wrote:
 just set up a new Linux server, just recently demoed my xenserver and
 moved it into a new case... dropped the optical and in all tons
 quieter
 


 but my main purpose in this email is what sort of services do people
 run at home and what do they do with them.
 
 I expect to see more personal mail servers in the future.


 http://qmailtoaster.com will get you up and running in no time.
 I know that qmail is frowned upon by some,
 but QMT 'just works'.
 I'm active in the QMT community, so I'm biased (but for good reasons). ;)
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Re: OT: Google Voice available to everyone

2010-06-22 Thread Bryan O'Neal
I got 916-XX-GAMES :)

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:
 HAHA cute.

 On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Stephen P Rufle
 stephen.p.ru...@cox.net wrote:
 http://www.google.com/googlevoice/about.html

 Was talking to der.hans about this last week. He mentioned that it might be
 a while before it was out of beta :). Well look at that its available to
 everyone now.

 I got a number that is 480 - XXX - JAVA.
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Re: New Linux server at home

2010-06-22 Thread Bryan O'Neal
I have an old Dell Precision 380 used for
File Sever: SMB internal WebDAVS external
LAMP Server: HTTP internal HTTPS external - dotProject, etc.
XTupple Server: PostBooks for Accounting
SSH Server: Mostly for tunneling, but never really have need since my
files and applications are available via HTTPS
but that is it. Fortunately cox does not block inbound HTTPS

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:
 just set up a new Linux server, just recently demoed my xenserver and
 moved it into a new case... dropped the optical and in all tons
 quieter

 but my main purpose in this email is what sort of services do people
 run at home and what do they do with them.

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Re: Breaking in to a Harddrive

2010-06-22 Thread Alan Dayley
If the hardware manufacturer implemented the ATA spec correctly, the
password cannot be bypassed by any normal means.  That is, after all,
what the password is supposed to do.

With special knowledge of the specific hard drive model, not just the
manufacturer, the model and even the specific firmware, one can find
where the password is stored and erase or nullify it.  Oh, and you
might need special equipment to get to that password on the platters.

To put it another way, throw this hard drive away and go buy a new
one.  It'll be less costly of your time.

Alan

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:51 AM, James Finstrom
jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com wrote:
 Greetings All,
 So my dad bought a Hitachi Travelstar 5K100 and apparently the drive is
 password locked at a hardware level and requires some sort of voodoo to
 report back anything other than vendor data. Anyway I guess there is a byte
 code you send to the drive and then a password then you live happily ever
 after. Needless to say we don't have the password. I am sure there is data
 on the drive but none that we own so don't care if all data is lost. Looking
 for suggestions on breaking in or clearing the drive. Again total data loss
 is ok.  Tried DD in case it was in the partition table and no dice..

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Re: MySQL reporting question

2010-06-22 Thread Joseph Sinclair
As I understand your structure and requirements (it's a bit fuzzy, especially 
the t2.varchar2 == t2.varchar2)
Create two *materialized* views and refresh both views (1 then 2) every 
reporting period (daily?).
  View1 : select status, varchar1, varchar2, max(timestamp) from t2 where 
varchar1 != NULL AND max(timestamp) GROUP BY status, varchar1, varchar2;
  View2 : select stuff, status from t1 INNER JOIN View1 ON t1.varchar1 = 
t2.varchar1;

Report is then:
  Select * from View2 where status = $some_val;

der.hans wrote:
 moin moin,
 
 t1: t1id, varchar1, stuff
 t2: t2id, timestamp, varchar1, varchar2, status
 
 I need to match the most recently entered status from t2 with stuff from
 t1 in MySQL.
 
 t2 is grouped by varchar2.
 
 t1 will have millions of rows. t2 has millions of rows and will grow at 4
 or 5 times the rate of t1. t2.varchar1 will often be NULL. Non-NULL values
 will mostly match up with t1.varchar1. t1.varchar1 can not be NULL.
 varchar2 is a clustering of information about varchar1, but usually only
 one entry in the cluster will have a value for varchar1.
 
 t1.stuff, t2.status == $some_val where max(t2.timestamp) and t1.varchar1
 == t2.varchar1 and t2.varchar2 == t2.varchar2
 
 This is for reporting and will run on a slave.
 
 Any suggestions on how to efficiently build out the report? Unlike my last
 DB job, I can create indexes, views, etc.
 
 I can also add columns to either table.
 
 ciao,
 
 der.hans



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