Re: West Side Plug Meeting
Interesting choice since this is the regular night for the East Side meeting. No biggie since very few would attend both. Just wondered if you knew ... On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Lyle Tuttle l.tut...@cox.net wrote: *TONIGHT, DECEMBER 8, 2010 *West Side Meeting http://plug.phoenix.az.us/node/338 Start: 19:00 End: 22:00 *NOTICE:* MEETING DATE CHANGES FOR HOLIDAYS *More Info*: Because Thanksgiving and Christmas are so close to our regular meeting dates, we are COMBINING those two meetings into ONE. The JANUARY meeting will return to the REGULAR date, ie, January 26, 2011, ie, the 4th Wed evening of the month. *Topic*: This meeting will cover the very basics of Linux. Our intent is to promote this meeting to any and all computer users, inviting them to attend to learn WHY LINUX. *Presenter*: Mr. John Pringle Topics: Various topics ranging form beginner's to advanced, user to administrator. When: Fourth Wednesday of each month at 7:00PM Where: DeVry University / Keller Graduate School of Management - MAP: 6751 N Sunset Blvd, Glendale, AZ Directions: Exit the 101 @ Glendale Ave - go East to the first traffic signal light - turn right at the light. Go to the flashing red light signal, stop first, then turn left (East) to Sunset Blvd (pass thru several stop signs - Sunset is the last street prior to the actual buildings). Turn right on Sunset and drive past the open air entry on your left . Turn right into the parking area and park. Enter through the open air entrance, but go into the first set of doors on your Right (no, not the DeVry doors on your left . Once thru the doors, turn left and walk back to the elevators - take one of them to the third floor. Look around - see the doors with the DeVry / Keller decals? Enter, turn right down the hall, then left to room 315 on your left. Easy, right? Actually, a lot easier than it sounds...just follow the directions... --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it always to be kept alive. - Thomas Jefferson --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: rsync help the gramma
One thing I might point out though is that you (Betty) said you did the backup about once a month and your example shows rsyncing to a directory named for the month (October). That's fine but some people use rsync to update a single backup destination so they don't keep each backup separately. You choice which best suits you, but I thought it worth mentioning. Larry On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 11:56 PM, Steve Holmes st...@holmesgrown.com wrote: Yes, I commend you for going for the command line tools like that. Tackling rsync is no slouch by any means. Frankly, I can rarely remember all the command line options for rsync and have to either constantly look at the man page or previous working examples. I would also create little one or two line shell scripts with these commands in them and then just run the script each month or whenever. That's why Joseph's script example had the '$1' and '$2' thingies in there. those can then be substituted by just putting in the names of the paths and run the script. Also, I believe Joseph's example included the --delete option. However, I don't recall what is actually being deleted at that point. Might wanna check to be sure there. Also, if you get more adventuresome in the future, you might wanna look at a program called rdiff-backup. It uses rsync under the hood and allows for optional inclusions and exclusions like rsync does but allows for staging different backup sets over time and yes, each subsequent backup is just the differences. Plus then if you need to restore a file from the most recent backup, it is merely a mirror of your current environment so you can just copy the desired item to be restored. But rsync is a good start and an excellent way to sync up two computers over a network too. On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 10:18:01PM -0700, Alan Dayley wrote: Do not think yourself stupid! I know software developers who are afraid of anything on a command line. The fact that you are using rsync is a long ways from anything close to stupid! Excellent work. Alan On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:05 PM, betty nicepeng...@webcanine.com wrote: ok, great, so do i just do this; sto...@stormy-desktop:~$ rsync -avEHh /home/stormy/ /media/october or do i do this : sto...@stormy-desktop:~$ rsync -avEHh --delete-after --progress /home/stormy/ /media/october sorry to be so stupid, but i rely on you guys for this ;) thank you!! betty On 12/08/2010 08:32 PM, Joseph Sinclair wrote: You're pretty close to ideal there. I use rsync -avEHh --delete-after --progress $SOURCE $DESTINATION Generally no need to sudo for your own homedir, and -z is really only useful for network copying (it compresses in-transit, not on disk). That will only copy over changes between the source and destination, and will remove anything in destination that's no longer in source. Make sure the external drive is formatted EXT3 or XFS so you can preserve things like access controls and ownership. When you look at the final output of the command, there's usually a ratio listed. That's the amount that could be copied vs. the amount actually copied. If that's much larger than 1, then you're only copying changes. ==Joseph++ betty wrote: I have an ext hdd that i copy my stuff to every few months. I think that i am copying everything all over again each time. What I'd like to do is just copy files that have changed. This is the command i have been using sto...@stormy-desktop:~$ sudo rsync -azvH /home/stormy/ /media/october please don't suggest that i use dd or whatever else there is because i am not good at trying new things. i think i'm doing a lot just to do the backup every few months. any rsync suggestions greatly appreciated. if i am already using the correct command for just copying things that have changed, please let me know. THANKS, Merry Christmas to all pluggers ! -- betty i. www.webcanine.com information for people who care for dogs. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain
December meetings
moin moin, I sent out a notice last weekend, but it got hung up in the moderation queue. He's a revised notice for the rest of the month. The east side meeting is still on Thursday this week and will be our annual end of year party. The Installfest has a special date this month, this Saturday. There will be an ABLEconf next Sunday night at 21:00. The west side Free Software Stammtisch in Avondale will be the 15th. The east side Free Software Stammtisch in Mesa will be on 21st. There will not be another PLUG planning meeting this month. ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # Backups are irrelevant. Only restorals matter. -- der.hans ___ PLUG-announce mailing list - plug-annou...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce PLUG Website at http://plug.phoenix.az.us --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
party - annual end of year party
moin moin, our annual end of year party is tonight at the east side meeting on Mesa Community College's Dobson and Southern campus. It's a pot luck, so please bring something for the table. We always have plenty of food, but usually high on the sugar side. Bring guests. Oma's cheesecake has been acquired. We almost always forget plates, cups, etc., so bring a few if you've already got them. http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/node/212 When: Second Thursday of each month at 7:00PM Where: Kirk Student Center, Mesa Community College, 1833 W. Southern Ave., Mesa, AZ 85202 Map on the PLUG site. ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and # write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn. -- Alvin Toffler ___ PLUG-announce mailing list - plug-annou...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce PLUG Website at http://plug.phoenix.az.us --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: rsync help the gramma
This is true - if you change the destination folder you do copy everything because rsync does not know you copied anything before. Rsync syncs. Thus if you wish to sync /my/files/ and /media/my/backupfiles/ it copies everything from files to back up files on the first run then every subsequent run it copies changes. But if I ask it to now sync my/files/ and /media/my/NEW/backupfiles/ it must first copy every thing again because non of the files in /my/files exist in /media/my/NEW/backupfiles/ If you want to have say /my/files backed up every day with that days changes but you also want to keep track up each change separately (aka have a snap shot for every month) so you can go back to prior versions, then you want to look at rsyncs cousin rsnapshot. Used in combination with rsync rsnapshot keeps track of changes by copying files that have changed and creating links to previously copied files that have not changed. Here is a quick blog post and a set of narrated presentation slides I did on rsync and rsnapshot a while back http://mlwtech.blogspot.com/2009/04/rsync-and-ssh-keys-presentation-on.html The audio auto-play and self progressing slide features are all messed up because I did the auto-play stuff on a windows box but if your interested you can play each slides associated mp3 manually. I keep thinking I am going to go fix this by simply web linking the associated auto play mp3 files or manually dealing with relative paths but I am a bit busy... But I digress! The post and associated slides are good and you may find the info very useful :) On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 1:26 AM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: One thing I might point out though is that you (Betty) said you did the backup about once a month and your example shows rsyncing to a directory named for the month (October). That's fine but some people use rsync to update a single backup destination so they don't keep each backup separately. You choice which best suits you, but I thought it worth mentioning. Larry On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 11:56 PM, Steve Holmes st...@holmesgrown.com wrote: Yes, I commend you for going for the command line tools like that. Tackling rsync is no slouch by any means. Frankly, I can rarely remember all the command line options for rsync and have to either constantly look at the man page or previous working examples. I would also create little one or two line shell scripts with these commands in them and then just run the script each month or whenever. That's why Joseph's script example had the '$1' and '$2' thingies in there. those can then be substituted by just putting in the names of the paths and run the script. Also, I believe Joseph's example included the --delete option. However, I don't recall what is actually being deleted at that point. Might wanna check to be sure there. Also, if you get more adventuresome in the future, you might wanna look at a program called rdiff-backup. It uses rsync under the hood and allows for optional inclusions and exclusions like rsync does but allows for staging different backup sets over time and yes, each subsequent backup is just the differences. Plus then if you need to restore a file from the most recent backup, it is merely a mirror of your current environment so you can just copy the desired item to be restored. But rsync is a good start and an excellent way to sync up two computers over a network too. On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 10:18:01PM -0700, Alan Dayley wrote: Do not think yourself stupid! I know software developers who are afraid of anything on a command line. The fact that you are using rsync is a long ways from anything close to stupid! Excellent work. Alan On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:05 PM, betty nicepeng...@webcanine.com wrote: ok, great, so do i just do this; sto...@stormy-desktop:~$ rsync -avEHh /home/stormy/ /media/october or do i do this : sto...@stormy-desktop:~$ rsync -avEHh --delete-after --progress /home/stormy/ /media/october sorry to be so stupid, but i rely on you guys for this ;) thank you!! betty On 12/08/2010 08:32 PM, Joseph Sinclair wrote: You're pretty close to ideal there. I use rsync -avEHh --delete-after --progress $SOURCE $DESTINATION Generally no need to sudo for your own homedir, and -z is really only useful for network copying (it compresses in-transit, not on disk). That will only copy over changes between the source and destination, and will remove anything in destination that's no longer in source. Make sure the external drive is formatted EXT3 or XFS so you can preserve things like access controls and ownership. When you look at the final output of the command, there's usually a ratio listed. That's the amount that could be copied vs. the amount actually copied. If that's much larger than 1, then you're only copying changes. ==Joseph++ betty wrote:
Re: The Sysadmin career field outlook
I need to get some extra funds together to go back to school and finish my degree. right now though, I am working on braille literacy through the Hadley School for the blind. after which, I might have more time to get some coursework done toward a set of certificates. then I'll be able to get back into the job market where I WANT to be. -Eric On Dec 9, 2010, at 4:09 AM, Bryan O'Neal wrote: It took me almost 2 years to find a new job once I was laid off. On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Steve Holmes st...@holmesgrown.com wrote: Yeah, I'm in the process of learning some new skills since mainframe software programming has gone to the pasture to be burried! I regret I didn't pick up and begin learning some of the newer technologies some years ago so no time like now to get started. I've been giving thought to sys admin work as a possible direction but then most of my experience so far has been in programming so figured it maybe more proodent to study newer languages like perl, python, php, wet dev, etc. It's an exciting time to go out and learn new stuff but it will mean an even longer time before I can really pay the bills the way I want. Thank God for Social Security Disability in the meantime. smile PS: I was laid off last spring so congrats on getting a new job in such a short time given this screwed up economy. On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 03:12:30PM -0700, Kevin Fries wrote: On 12/08/2010 10:19 AM, Shawn Badger wrote: I would have to politely disagree with the previous 2 postings. I see a lot of sys admin jobs out there. But like any profession it is having the right skills at the right time. I think Linux admins with enterprise experience are in demand now. But the key is having a broad base of knowledge and choosing you speciality to match what you have talent for and what the market is looking for. I absolutely agree. My company laid me off on the last day of September this year. I have a broad and extensive IT background, and hit the job market with gusto. One month later, I had a new job, that started the middle of November. Exactly 6 weeks out of work. But that is here in Denver, not Phoenix. However, I am getting head hunters from all over the country contacting me daily. So, skills, experience, and willingness to work with the market as it stands when you finish your education, will take you along way. Allot longer than the exact degree you have. Kevin Fries --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: West Side Plug Meeting
At 01:17 AM 12/9/2010, you wrote: Interesting choice since this is the regular night for the East Side meeting. No biggie since very few would attend both. Just wondered if you knew ... Did not realize that. On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Lyle Tuttle mailto:l.tut...@cox.netl.tut...@cox.net wrote: TONIGHT, DECEMBER 8, 2010 http://plug.phoenix.az.us/node/338West Side Meeting Start: 19:00 End: 22:00 NOTICE: MEETING DATE CHANGES FOR HOLIDAYS More Info: Because Thanksgiving and Christmas are so close to our regular meeting dates, we are COMBINING those two meetings into ONE. The JANUARY meeting will return to the REGULAR date, ie, January 26, 2011, ie, the 4th Wed evening of the month. Topic: This meeting will cover the very basics of Linux. Our intent is to promote this meeting to any and all computer users, inviting them to attend to learn WHY LINUX. Presenter: Mr. John Pringle Topics: Various topics ranging form beginner's to advanced, user to administrator. When: Fourth Wednesday of each month at 7:00PM Where: DeVry University / Keller Graduate School of Management - MAP: 6751 N Sunset Blvd, Glendale, AZ Directions: Exit the 101 @ Glendale Ave - go East to the first traffic signal light - turn right at the light. Go to the flashing red light signal, stop first, then turn left (East) to Sunset Blvd (pass thru several stop signs - Sunset is the last street prior to the actual buildings). Turn right on Sunset and drive past the open air entry on your left . Turn right into the parking area and park. Enter through the open air entrance, but go into the first set of doors on your Right (no, not the DeVry doors on your left . Once thru the doors, turn left and walk back to the elevators - take one of them to the third floor. Look around - see the doors with the DeVry / Keller decals? Enter, turn right down the hall, then left to room 315 on your left. Easy, right? Actually, a lot easier than it sounds...just follow the directions... --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discusshttp://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it always to be kept alive. - Thomas Jefferson --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Job: PHP and Javascript
Caught this lead through Twitter. Tempe company Meltmedia has a full-time position for the right Front End Web Developer. I don't know them well but everything I've heard about Meltmedia has been good. Position description and applicaiton form are here: http://meltmedia.theresumator.com/apply/l29a7k/Front-End-Web-Developer.html I don't know any more detail than that and cannot put you on the inside track. Just passing along the link. Alan --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
How to repair the file system within in a ISO file
So I ran into this problem the yesterday and Google has yet to reveal the secret of how to fix it. I have a disc that someone else burned that is has some errors on it. The source is gone so I cannot just simply reburn the disc :( I was able to use ddrescue to get an ISO image of the disc created, but when I went to burn that it just replicated the error to the new disc. Does any one know how to do an fsck (or similar) on an ISO image? I tried just doing a fsck -y disk.iso , but it just comes back like I used a bad option and I can repair it while it is mounted. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: rsync help the gramma
Bryan wrote: This is true - if you change the destination folder you do copy everything because rsync does not know you copied anything before. This is true in the general case. However, you can tell rsync about the files you copied before with the --compare-dest, --copy-dest, or --link-dest options. Rsync syncs. Thus if you wish to sync /my/files/ and /media/my/backupfiles/ it copies everything from files to back up files on the first run then every subsequent run it copies changes. But if I ask it to now sync my/files/ and /media/my/NEW/backupfiles/ it must first copy every thing again because non of the files in /my/files exist in /media/my/NEW/backupfiles/ If you use rsync -a --link-dest=/media/my/backupfiles /my/files/ /media/my/NEW/backupfiles/ any files that are unchanged since the previous backup to /media/my/backupfiles will not be copied by rsync. Instead, they will be hardlinked from /media/my/backupfiles to /media/my/NEW/backupfiles. IMHO, rsync is simply amazing. Many scripts use this feature of rsync to give you incremental backups that look like full backups. Bryan mentioned rsnapshot, which I haven't used, but looks interesting. I use dirvish. I set it up to do an automated nightly backup of the several systems I have at home. Here is a list of my toplevel backup directories for one system: base $ ls ./ 20100103/ 20100801/ 20101017/ 20101125/ 20101202/ ../20100207/ 20100905/ 20101024/ 20101126/ 20101203/ 20081005/ 20100307/ 20100912/ 20101031/ 20101127/ 20101204/ 20090104/ 20100404/ 20100919/ 20101107/ 20101128/ 20101205/ 20090405/ 20100502/ 20100926/ 20101114/ 20101129/ 20101206/ 20090705/ 20100606/ 20101003/ 20101121/ 20101130/ 20101207/ 20091004/ 20100704/ 20101010/ 20101124/ 20101201/ 20101208/ Dirvish has left me nightly backups of the last 15 days and weekly backups of the last 3 months, monthly backups for the last year, and annual backups prior to that. (Dirvish backed up nightly for the last two years, but has culled older backups according to the schedule I gave it.) Each of the directories contains a full snapshot of the files at the time they were backed up. Note that there is no redundancy. There is only one copy of each file that hasn't been changed, with links to it appearing in multiple directories. -Dale --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: How to repair the file system within in a ISO file
From: Shawn Badger sh...@badger.pro I have a disc that someone else burned that has some errors on it. I was able to use ddrescue to get an ISO image of the disc created, What filesystem was on the CD? This is important. It may be ISO9660, UDF, or something else. What, specifically, are the errors that you're seeing? Did dd_rescue return a bunch of bad sectors while reading the image? If so, you may be out of luck. but when I went to burn that it just replicated the error to the new disc. Does any one know how to do an fsck (or similar) on an ISO image? I don't know of any fsck for ISO9660, since that's really not meant to be written to. The structure of ISO9660 is actually not that complicated IIRC. UDF is more complex and can be written to. I don't see an fsck.udf here on my system, but I do see one available in the udftools package. The utility might be called udffsck on your distro. -- Matt G / Dances With Crows The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: rsync help the gramma
You might also check out the Déjà Dup tool. It also does incremental backups correctly (it is a front-end to duplicity). As long as you don't need some of the more advanced features of duplicity, rsnapshot, rdiff-backup, etc, it works quite well on the desktop. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: How to repair the file system within in a ISO file
Can you mount the image in loop back mode and get the files out? assuming it is iso9660: mkdir /tmp/iso mount -o loop -t iso9660 /tmp/cdimage.iso /mnt/iso Another alternative is to use unstoppable copier assuming you can read the directory structure/etc from http://www.roadkil.net/unstopcp.html http://www.roadkil.net/unstopcp.htmlGood luck! JD On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 07:43, Shawn Badger sh...@badger.pro wrote: So I ran into this problem the yesterday and Google has yet to reveal the secret of how to fix it. I have a disc that someone else burned that is has some errors on it. The source is gone so I cannot just simply reburn the disc :( I was able to use ddrescue to get an ISO image of the disc created, but when I went to burn that it just replicated the error to the new disc. Does any one know how to do an fsck (or similar) on an ISO image? I tried just doing a fsck -y disk.iso , but it just comes back like I used a bad option and I can repair it while it is mounted. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: party - annual end of year party
I can pick up some good quality paper plates and stuff and bring them over; what about pop? I just came across this note this morning so don't have time to prepare something but can bring drinks or some pre-made potatoe salad. Surprisingly, Fry's country potatoe salad tastes pretty good to me:). On Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 03:45:22AM -0700, PLUG Announcements wrote: moin moin, our annual end of year party is tonight at the east side meeting on Mesa Community College's Dobson and Southern campus. It's a pot luck, so please bring something for the table. We always have plenty of food, but usually high on the sugar side. Bring guests. Oma's cheesecake has been acquired. We almost always forget plates, cups, etc., so bring a few if you've already got them. http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/node/212 When: Second Thursday of each month at 7:00PM Where: Kirk Student Center, Mesa Community College, 1833 W. Southern Ave., Mesa, AZ 85202 Map on the PLUG site. ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and # write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn. -- Alvin Toffler ___ PLUG-announce mailing list - plug-annou...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce PLUG Website at http://plug.phoenix.az.us --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: party - annual end of year party
hey steve, you live on the west side, don't you? -Eric On Dec 9, 2010, at 9:24 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: I can pick up some good quality paper plates and stuff and bring them over; what about pop? I just came across this note this morning so don't have time to prepare something but can bring drinks or some pre-made potatoe salad. Surprisingly, Fry's country potatoe salad tastes pretty good to me:). On Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 03:45:22AM -0700, PLUG Announcements wrote: moin moin, our annual end of year party is tonight at the east side meeting on Mesa Community College's Dobson and Southern campus. It's a pot luck, so please bring something for the table. We always have plenty of food, but usually high on the sugar side. Bring guests. Oma's cheesecake has been acquired. We almost always forget plates, cups, etc., so bring a few if you've already got them. http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/node/212 When: Second Thursday of each month at 7:00PM Where: Kirk Student Center, Mesa Community College, 1833 W. Southern Ave., Mesa, AZ 85202 Map on the PLUG site. ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and # write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn. -- Alvin Toffler ___ PLUG-announce mailing list - plug-annou...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce PLUG Website at http://plug.phoenix.az.us --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: How to repair the file system within in a ISO file
It is UDF. I will try the udftool to see if there is something there that will work. On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.net wrote: From: Shawn Badger sh...@badger.pro I have a disc that someone else burned that has some errors on it. I was able to use ddrescue to get an ISO image of the disc created, What filesystem was on the CD? This is important. It may be ISO9660, UDF, or something else. What, specifically, are the errors that you're seeing? Did dd_rescue return a bunch of bad sectors while reading the image? If so, you may be out of luck. but when I went to burn that it just replicated the error to the new disc. Does any one know how to do an fsck (or similar) on an ISO image? I don't know of any fsck for ISO9660, since that's really not meant to be written to. The structure of ISO9660 is actually not that complicated IIRC. UDF is more complex and can be written to. I don't see an fsck.udf here on my system, but I do see one available in the udftools package. The utility might be called udffsck on your distro. -- Matt G / Dances With Crows The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: party - annual end of year party
On Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 10:01:40AM -0700, Technomage Hawke wrote: hey steve, you live on the west side, don't you? Nope, just a 10 to 15 minute single bus ride over Southern Avenue from my house in Tempe. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: How to repair the file system within in a ISO file
I can pull the files off with the loop mount, but I am trying to preserve as much of the data as possible because of the nature of what is on this DVD. I have thought about just doing that as a last ditch effort though!! On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 8:14 AM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote: Can you mount the image in loop back mode and get the files out? assuming it is iso9660: mkdir /tmp/iso mount -o loop -t iso9660 /tmp/cdimage.iso /mnt/iso Another alternative is to use unstoppable copier assuming you can read the directory structure/etc from http://www.roadkil.net/unstopcp.html Good luck! JD On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 07:43, Shawn Badger sh...@badger.pro wrote: So I ran into this problem the yesterday and Google has yet to reveal the secret of how to fix it. I have a disc that someone else burned that is has some errors on it. The source is gone so I cannot just simply reburn the disc :( I was able to use ddrescue to get an ISO image of the disc created, but when I went to burn that it just replicated the error to the new disc. Does any one know how to do an fsck (or similar) on an ISO image? I tried just doing a fsck -y disk.iso , but it just comes back like I used a bad option and I can repair it while it is mounted. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: party - annual end of year party
rats! anyone on the west side going? -Eric On Dec 9, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: On Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 10:01:40AM -0700, Technomage Hawke wrote: hey steve, you live on the west side, don't you? Nope, just a 10 to 15 minute single bus ride over Southern Avenue from my house in Tempe. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: rsync help the gramma
I use -avczPW for switches. very rarely do I automate a delete and it is always AFTER a full copy. If you put a / in the wrong place you can nuke your whole set of backups. So beware... other than that rsync IS the way to backup. It is so featureful and once you set up your style makes it pretty brainless to use. Rsync get sym links, hard links, and permissions, mod dates, the whole schbang. The wonderful thing too about rsync is if it gets interrupted it doesn't corrupt your whole backup. So when you restart it it adjusts itself for source and destination and then just restarts the backup from the last completed file. gk --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: How to repair the file system within in a ISO file
If this is just a data disc it most likely is in 9660 format. ISOMaster would probably be able to mount the image and you could just yank the data off that you want. Then make a fresh start of what need. Unless that data is absolutely applicaton specific or encrypted with a certain rev #, who cares about the apps on the disc, the data is the most important. vp --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: party - annual end of year party
I haven't been to any PLUG meetings in a long time due to scheduling conflicts, but since I have no class today I might go. I live at ~51st Ave. Cactus in Glendale. I'll need to make sure no one in my family will need me or the car, but barring that I'd like to go. I'd certainly be willing to take one or a few people from the West side along with me. I can find out whether or not all this is possible by ~3pm if you can stay tuned. On Dec 9, 2010 11:12 AM, Technomage Hawke technomage.ha...@gmail.com wrote: rats! anyone on the west side going? -Eric On Dec 9, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: On Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 10:01:40AM -0700, Technomage Hawke wrote: hey steve, you live on the west side, don't you? Nope, just a 10 to 15 minute single bus ride over Southern Avenue from my house in Tempe. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
gramma thx note
thx, steve,alan, joseph and anyone i forgot ! good pick up ; i AM doing backups with names of the month, so it IS backing up everything each time since it is a different name. i understand that but was doing it because i was so paranoid that it would miss something ... so i have two months backups on the ext hdd - oct and august. usually when i do the next backup, i put in the new month and delete the oldest one. but once again, it is backing up everything of course. so, should i try to rename the october file then just always use that for backups. ? or should i just call everything october from now on, hehehe. fine with me, easy to remember. yes, to the question, it is all ext3. randy larson taught us that in the one linux class i took in 2000 (?) to get started. he was so helpful that was one of the reason i totally got into using linux. very nice, like the people on the plug list. one thing he said, i think, was to do a 'cron' job for stuff to happen every so often. (?) is this something that would lend itself to that say every week or every month? he taught us that unlike the evil m$ you don't have the computer asking you 'are you sure you want to do this' when you are in the command line, that is why i am always so careful (and fearful ). it's also why i don't do backups as often as i should because it takes me about 1/2 hr to v e r y c a r e f u l l y check everything i write before i hit enter. have a nice Christmas party, u cheese cake ! -- betty i. www.webcanine.com information for people who care for dogs. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: gramma thx note
On 12/09/2010 02:49 PM, betty wrote: thx, steve,alan, joseph and anyone i forgot ! good pick up ; i AM doing backups with names of the month, so it IS backing up everything each time since it is a different name. i understand that but was doing it because i was so paranoid that it would miss something ... so i have two months backups on the ext hdd - oct and august. usually when i do the next backup, i put in the new month and delete the oldest one. but once again, it is backing up everything of course. so, should i try to rename the october file then just always use that for backups. ? or should i just call everything october from now on, hehehe. fine with me, easy to remember. There is a program out there that does something similar to this. Its called BackupPC, and here is its work-flow in a nutshell: Create a directory for each machine to be backed up Create a directory for each backup to be performed (one per day/week/etc) Copy all links (hard links) from previous backup Read a file from the target over ssh/rsync Is this file already in the backup? Yes - Has It Changed? Yes - Add file to pool, overwrite old hard link to point to new file No - Leave link alone No - Leave link alone Read next file and continue This causes the system to do a incremental backup every day, but it acts like a full backup. Files are removed from the pool once it is A) deleted B) no longer referenced from an old backup. How long it keeps backups and when it creates a new file regardless (i.e. full backup) is configurable. This program is especially useful for backing up multiple machines (as it is smart enough to recognize same files from multiple machines), and I know this is not your case... But I thought maybe the workflow could be useful for you to look at in designing your own backup policy. Kevin Fries --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
pitivi
also, btw, is anyone using pitivi video editor? it is incredibly powerful, i just started using it last night but i cannot figure out how to change the opacity of each layer. also, does anyone know what format do i save videos as if i want to send them to europe on a dvd, and what format to use to put them on my website? like the gimp this is a really cool program. thx -- betty i. www.webcanine.com information for people who care for dogs. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: pitivi
Betty, I might be able to help. I haven't used Pitivi, but I would be very interested in learning more about it. As far as sending videos to Europe, you will have to use PAL instead of NTSC because their systems do not recognize NTSC format. If you are going to post to your website, then you may want to look at F4V as it is smaller and uses the flash player which just about everyone has on their system Hope this helps you, Ralph On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 3:10 PM, betty nicepeng...@webcanine.com wrote: also, btw, is anyone using pitivi video editor? it is incredibly powerful, i just started using it last night but i cannot figure out how to change the opacity of each layer. also, does anyone know what format do i save videos as if i want to send them to europe on a dvd, and what format to use to put them on my website? like the gimp this is a really cool program. thx -- betty i. www.webcanine.com information for people who care for dogs. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: gramma thx note
Would a revision control system be good for this? SVN for example? Eric On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Kevin Fries kfri...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/09/2010 02:49 PM, betty wrote: thx, steve,alan, joseph and anyone i forgot ! good pick up ; i AM doing backups with names of the month, so it IS backing up everything each time since it is a different name. i understand that but was doing it because i was so paranoid that it would miss something ... so i have two months backups on the ext hdd - oct and august. usually when i do the next backup, i put in the new month and delete the oldest one. but once again, it is backing up everything of course. so, should i try to rename the october file then just always use that for backups. ? or should i just call everything october from now on, hehehe. fine with me, easy to remember. There is a program out there that does something similar to this. Its called BackupPC, and here is its work-flow in a nutshell: Create a directory for each machine to be backed up Create a directory for each backup to be performed (one per day/week/etc) Copy all links (hard links) from previous backup Read a file from the target over ssh/rsync Is this file already in the backup? Yes - Has It Changed? Yes - Add file to pool, overwrite old hard link to point to new file No - Leave link alone No - Leave link alone Read next file and continue This causes the system to do a incremental backup every day, but it acts like a full backup. Files are removed from the pool once it is A) deleted B) no longer referenced from an old backup. How long it keeps backups and when it creates a new file regardless (i.e. full backup) is configurable. This program is especially useful for backing up multiple machines (as it is smart enough to recognize same files from multiple machines), and I know this is not your case... But I thought maybe the workflow could be useful for you to look at in designing your own backup policy. Kevin Fries --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: pitivi deja dup
thanks, that's what i needed to know wow, thanks jason for the idea on the deja dup program. i just downloaded it and pushed the button and it seemed to upload everything. it looks like they are all in little duplicity packages. so if i ever need to restore them i assume it will know how to do that... thank you both ! betty i On 12/09/2010 04:09 PM, Ralph Prowell wrote: Betty, I might be able to help. I haven't used Pitivi, but I would be very interested in learning more about it. As far as sending videos to Europe, you will have to use PAL instead of NTSC because their systems do not recognize NTSC format. If you are going to post to your website, then you may want to look at F4V as it is smaller and uses the flash player which just about everyone has on their system Hope this helps you, Ralph On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 3:10 PM, betty nicepeng...@webcanine.com mailto:nicepeng...@webcanine.com wrote: also, btw, is anyone using pitivi video editor? it is incredibly powerful, i just started using it last night but i cannot figure out how to change the opacity of each layer. also, does anyone know what format do i save videos as if i want to send them to europe on a dvd, and what format to use to put them on my website? like the gimp this is a really cool program. thx -- betty i. www.webcanine.com http://www.webcanine.com information for people who care for dogs. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- betty i. www.webcanine.com information for people who care for dogs. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
boy do I feel stupid!
I've been trying to hook internet up to my linux box for a good 6 months now not even realizing that all I had to do was to connect my router to it.. oh wait; thats the problem. I was piggy-backing off of my neighbor (with his approval mind you!). But he moved and so I had to go with qwest. -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Don't remember password.
I don't remember the password to mycomputer. Could the gentleman that gave it to me email me (bmi...@gmail.com) and tell me what it was? If nobody remembers it could someone tell me how to get it? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Don't remember password.
Assuming it is linux you can usually boot into single user mode and then change the password. On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 18:14, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember the password to mycomputer. Could the gentleman that gave it to me email me (bmi...@gmail.com) and tell me what it was? If nobody remembers it could someone tell me how to get it? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Don't remember password.
it is linux and I've been stuck with windows for so long now that I do not remember how to do this. Could someone help me out? On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 7:03 PM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote: Assuming it is linux you can usually boot into single user mode and then change the password. On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 18:14, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember the password to mycomputer. Could the gentleman that gave it to me email me (bmi...@gmail.com) and tell me what it was? If nobody remembers it could someone tell me how to get it? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Don't remember password.
my os is ubuntuu 9.10 On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: it is linux and I've been stuck with windows for so long now that I do not remember how to do this. Could someone help me out? On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 7:03 PM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote: Assuming it is linux you can usually boot into single user mode and then change the password. On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 18:14, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember the password to mycomputer. Could the gentleman that gave it to me email me (bmi...@gmail.com) and tell me what it was? If nobody remembers it could someone tell me how to get it? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Don't remember password.
I think there might be an easier way and I'm no pro. Found this online. Hope it helps http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/grub-boot-into-single-user-mode/ Keith Smith --- On Thu, 12/9/10, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: From: Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Don't remember password. To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Thursday, December 9, 2010, 7:37 PM my os is ubuntuu 9.10 On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: it is linux and I've been stuck with windows for so long now that I do not remember how to do this. Could someone help me out? On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 7:03 PM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote: Assuming it is linux you can usually boot into single user mode and then change the password. On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 18:14, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember the password to mycomputer. Could the gentleman that gave it to me email me (bmi...@gmail.com) and tell me what it was? If nobody remembers it could someone tell me how to get it? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Don't remember password.
And once in you can issue passwd username you will then be prompted for the password and you will need to enter it twice. I've never changed a user password while in single user mode so I hope this works. My system is setup where I have to be sudo or root to change a password. Unless of course it is my password I'm trying to change. You can find your users by listing then with the cat command. They are in the /etc/passwd file. So do this : cat /etc/passwd Keith Smith --- On Thu, 12/9/10, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Don't remember password. To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Thursday, December 9, 2010, 8:47 PM I think there might be an easier way and I'm no pro. Found this online. Hope it helps http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/grub-boot-into-single-user-mode/ Keith Smith --- On Thu, 12/9/10, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: From: Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Don't remember password. To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Thursday, December 9, 2010, 7:37 PM my os is ubuntuu 9.10 On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: it is linux and I've been stuck with windows for so long now that I do not remember how to do this. Could someone help me out? On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 7:03 PM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote: Assuming it is linux you can usually boot into single user mode and then change the password. On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 18:14, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember the password to mycomputer. Could the gentleman that gave it to me email me (bmi...@gmail.com) and tell me what it was? If nobody remembers it could someone tell me how to get it? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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I think the link you sent will help it teaches how to eraase all passwords (I think) I'll give the guy who installed the OS a day to see if he remembers the password he he3 set. I hope he does because I don't have a knoppix disk. I do havee a PHLAK disk and I think that will work as well. If not maybe that PLUGer on Mingus mountain can help me out. On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 8:54 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: And once in you can issue passwd username you will then be prompted for the password and you will need to enter it twice. I've never changed a user password while in single user mode so I hope this works. My system is setup where I have to be sudo or root to change a password. Unless of course it is my password I'm trying to change. You can find your users by listing then with the cat command. They are in the /etc/passwd file. So do this : cat /etc/passwd Keith Smith --- On *Thu, 12/9/10, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com* wrote: From: keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Don't remember password. To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Thursday, December 9, 2010, 8:47 PM I think there might be an easier way and I'm no pro. Found this online. Hope it helps http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/grub-boot-into-single-user-mode/ Keith Smith --- On *Thu, 12/9/10, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Don't remember password. To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Thursday, December 9, 2010, 7:37 PM my os is ubuntuu 9.10 On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: it is linux and I've been stuck with windows for so long now that I do not remember how to do this. Could someone help me out? On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 7:03 PM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote: Assuming it is linux you can usually boot into single user mode and then change the password. On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 18:14, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember the password to mycomputer. Could the gentleman that gave it to me email me (bmi...@gmail.com) and tell me what it was? If nobody remembers it could someone tell me how to get it? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.ushttp://mc/compose?to=plug-disc...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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thanks for the help guys I finally got the password reaset. It seems that root and UID passwd needs to be the same. I know that isn't the way it normally works but it didn't work right for me until I did that. On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I think the link you sent will help it teaches how to eraase all passwords (I think) I'll give the guy who installed the OS a day to see if he remembers the password he he3 set. I hope he does because I don't have a knoppix disk. I do havee a PHLAK disk and I think that will work as well. If not maybe that PLUGer on Mingus mountain can help me out. On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 8:54 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: And once in you can issue passwd username you will then be prompted for the password and you will need to enter it twice. I've never changed a user password while in single user mode so I hope this works. My system is setup where I have to be sudo or root to change a password. Unless of course it is my password I'm trying to change. You can find your users by listing then with the cat command. They are in the /etc/passwd file. So do this : cat /etc/passwd Keith Smith --- On *Thu, 12/9/10, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com* wrote: From: keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Don't remember password. To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Thursday, December 9, 2010, 8:47 PM I think there might be an easier way and I'm no pro. Found this online. Hope it helps http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/grub-boot-into-single-user-mode/ Keith Smith --- On *Thu, 12/9/10, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Don't remember password. To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Thursday, December 9, 2010, 7:37 PM my os is ubuntuu 9.10 On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: it is linux and I've been stuck with windows for so long now that I do not remember how to do this. Could someone help me out? On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 7:03 PM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote: Assuming it is linux you can usually boot into single user mode and then change the password. On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 18:14, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember the password to mycomputer. Could the gentleman that gave it to me email me (bmi...@gmail.com) and tell me what it was? If nobody remembers it could someone tell me how to get it? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.ushttp://mc/compose?to=plug-disc...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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Now it is asking me for a 'keyring' password and I don't know what to do. What 'user' (if any) is 'keyring' that I could change the password with the command 'passwd'?? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
