Re: Firefox state
FireFox developers really missed the boat on this one! On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: I liked some of the changes, especially the sync feature in 4 but within about 2 hours of install ff4 allowed something in and right past av (not that I'm happy with that as either) so I went back to chrome, ff 6 seemed better but still haven't gotten over my experience with ff 4. Ironically it would have been solved by a noscript switch but it was new enough to not have one yet. Or at least not one I could find at the time. On OS X, Linux, and Windows, Firefox 6 broke all my plugins, then locked up regularly and crashed on Fedora 15 They released two updates to 6 immediately for various issues. The Firefox 6 updates just ran themselves, without asking respectably. There was no way to essentially and easily ROLL back after the update when all plugins broke. The plugin issue is especially serious, as I used Mono for KeePass with a Firefox plugin to automatically add my web logins to the database. Broken developers plugins in OS X also completely hobbled many people. -- Software is like sex: it's better when it's free. - Linus Thorvaldshttp://www.softwarequotes.com/showquotes.aspx?id=746name=Thorvalds,Linus (503) 754-4452 Dell Streak (602) 791-8002 Android (623) 239-3392 Skype (623) 688-3392 Google Voice ** JoinHomeSmart.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: chrome or opera
great and clear instructions, will try that tonight. should i un-install any previous flash-plugin files that say they are installed on the Ubuntu Software Center? thanks betty On 10/04/2011 08:45 PM, Joseph Sinclair wrote: Betty, On Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid), sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer will install flash (version 10.1.183 currently). They went to an automated installer instead of a proper package so that they aren't having to repackage Adobe's mess, the package just downloads the Adobe installer and installs it for you. You can also install the chromium-browser package to get Chrome without the Google branding. To get the Chromium beta channel (more up to date, but less tested) put the following 3 lines in a new file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/chromium-beta.list # Bring in the chromium beta channel for Lucid (10.04). deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/beta/ubuntu lucid main deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/beta/ubuntu lucid main Hopefully that will get chromium and flash working for you. On 10/04/2011 06:46 PM, betty wrote: On 10/04/2011 06:35 PM, Adam McCullough wrote: Installing Flash on a linux version of Chrome takes a bit of trickery. What I wound up doing was making a soft link from the flash library to /opt/chrome/plugins. That did the trick. uhh, how do i do that? or is that beyond my basic cl skill set? thx -- betty i. www.webcanine.com information for people who care for dogs. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Fwd: Drive crash
Hi All, I got this message from a member of my photo club. Any one have any recommendations? Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks, Peter Original Message Subject:Drive crash Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 11:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Does anyone have recommendations for a data recovery business, preferably here in the valley. My external drive isn't working. Seagate wants $600 for data recovery - way out of reach for me. I have backups of the original images so not all is lost. I hope to avoid reworking a lot of images by getting the data recovered but I can't afford a lot of $$$. Jim B --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Drive crash
data doctors is the group i can think of locally, i haven't done a huge search lately. 600 isn't as bad as allot of costs i have seen however. i tend to go the route of is a backup cheaper than drive recover, shit yes and make backups. rsync ftw (and yes i use it on windows too) On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 12:17 PM, AZ Pete p...@cactusfamily.com wrote: Hi All, I got this message from a member of my photo club. Any one have any recommendations? Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks, Peter Original Message Subject: Drive crash Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 11:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Does anyone have recommendations for a data recovery business, preferably here in the valley. My external drive isn't working. Seagate wants $600 for data recovery - way out of reach for me. I have backups of the original images so not all is lost. I hope to avoid reworking a lot of images by getting the data recovered but I can't afford a lot of $$$. Jim B --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Fwd: Drive crash
On 10/05/2011 12:17 PM, AZ Pete wrote: Hi All, I got this message from a member of my photo club. Any one have any recommendations? Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks, Peter Original Message Subject:Drive crash Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 11:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Does anyone have recommendations for a data recovery business, preferably here in the valley. My external drive isn't working. Seagate wants $600 for data recovery - way out of reach for me. I have backups of the original images so not all is lost. I hope to avoid reworking a lot of images by getting the data recovered but I can't afford a lot of $$$. Jim B Have Jim email me. I might be able to help him out, for a reasonable fee. -- -Eric 'shubes' --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Fwd: Drive crash
From: Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net On 10/05/2011 12:17 PM, AZ Pete wrote: Does anyone have recommendations for a data recovery business, preferably here in the valley. My external drive isn't working. Seagate wants $600 for data recovery Have Jim email me. I might be able to help him out, for a reasonable fee. I've also done stuff like this a couple of times. Results obtainable with *just* dd_rescue and fsck vary widely depending on how many bad sectors are on the disk. The more actual bad sectors, the more likely you won't recover much. The last disk I tried to recover, roughly 25% bad sectors meant a filesystem that was basically beyond fsck's capability to fix. Also, if the disk is marginal, trying to read from it may increase the number of bad sectors if/when you decide to try doing more expensive hardware-based recovery. The first thing I'd try is to plug the disk in to a Linux box without any sort of automount utility running and try to read the first few sectors with dd. Bad sectors there = bad prognosis. No errors = try mounting the first partition, go from there. Errors = try dd_rescueing the partition to a known good disk so you have a copy, then run fsck or other tools on a copy of the copy. Simple to think about. More difficult to *DO* and get useful junk back -- Matt G / Dances With Crows The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Fwd: Drive crash
something to try looking at if you want a possible in house solution is Test Disk, this is a satisfyingly functional program. http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.net wrote: From: Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net On 10/05/2011 12:17 PM, AZ Pete wrote: Does anyone have recommendations for a data recovery business, preferably here in the valley. My external drive isn't working. Seagate wants $600 for data recovery Have Jim email me. I might be able to help him out, for a reasonable fee. I've also done stuff like this a couple of times. Results obtainable with *just* dd_rescue and fsck vary widely depending on how many bad sectors are on the disk. The more actual bad sectors, the more likely you won't recover much. The last disk I tried to recover, roughly 25% bad sectors meant a filesystem that was basically beyond fsck's capability to fix. Also, if the disk is marginal, trying to read from it may increase the number of bad sectors if/when you decide to try doing more expensive hardware-based recovery. The first thing I'd try is to plug the disk in to a Linux box without any sort of automount utility running and try to read the first few sectors with dd. Bad sectors there = bad prognosis. No errors = try mounting the first partition, go from there. Errors = try dd_rescueing the partition to a known good disk so you have a copy, then run fsck or other tools on a copy of the copy. Simple to think about. More difficult to *DO* and get useful junk back -- Matt G / Dances With Crows The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Drive crash
As odd as it may sound, Kim Kommando once suggested sticking the drive in the freezer for a few hours; take it out; and see if it works again. Pull as much as you can off it. Daniel On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 12:17 PM, AZ Pete p...@cactusfamily.com wrote: Hi All, I got this message from a member of my photo club. Any one have any recommendations? Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks, Peter Original Message Subject: Drive crash Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 11:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Does anyone have recommendations for a data recovery business, preferably here in the valley. My external drive isn't working. Seagate wants $600 for data recovery - way out of reach for me. I have backups of the original images so not all is lost. I hope to avoid reworking a lot of images by getting the data recovered but I can't afford a lot of $$$. Jim B --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- | --- | Daniel P. Stasinski | dan...@genericinbox.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Drive crash
Better put it in an air-tight bag! On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Daniel Stasinski dan...@genericinbox.comwrote: As odd as it may sound, Kim Kommando once suggested sticking the drive in the freezer for a few hours; take it out; and see if it works again. Pull as much as you can off it. Daniel On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 12:17 PM, AZ Pete p...@cactusfamily.com wrote: Hi All, I got this message from a member of my photo club. Any one have any recommendations? Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks, Peter Original Message Subject: Drive crash Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 11:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Does anyone have recommendations for a data recovery business, preferably here in the valley. My external drive isn't working. Seagate wants $600 for data recovery - way out of reach for me. I have backups of the original images so not all is lost. I hope to avoid reworking a lot of images by getting the data recovered but I can't afford a lot of $$$. Jim B --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- | --- | Daniel P. Stasinski | dan...@genericinbox.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Drive crash
I have done the freezer trick with some success, there is another boil the drive trick and after it cools of try getting data, again, air tight bag time, this one i have not tried. On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Better put it in an air-tight bag! On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Daniel Stasinski dan...@genericinbox.com wrote: As odd as it may sound, Kim Kommando once suggested sticking the drive in the freezer for a few hours; take it out; and see if it works again. Pull as much as you can off it. Daniel On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 12:17 PM, AZ Pete p...@cactusfamily.com wrote: Hi All, I got this message from a member of my photo club. Any one have any recommendations? Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks, Peter Original Message Subject: Drive crash Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 11:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Does anyone have recommendations for a data recovery business, preferably here in the valley. My external drive isn't working. Seagate wants $600 for data recovery - way out of reach for me. I have backups of the original images so not all is lost. I hope to avoid reworking a lot of images by getting the data recovered but I can't afford a lot of $$$. Jim B --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- | --- | Daniel P. Stasinski | dan...@genericinbox.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Steve Jobs has passed away.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/steve-jobs-apple-ceo-dies/story?id=14383813 Keith Smith--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Steve Jobs has passed away.
May he rest in peace, I wonder if apple will be able to innovate without him? On Oct 5, 2011 5:11 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/steve-jobs-apple-ceo-dies/story?id=14383813 Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Firefox state
Version 7 is finally what I would call a full version update. Much faster and better memory handling. Still not Chrome level though. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 4, 2011, at 4:04 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote: Betty's chrome or opera post is quite timely. I'm still running 3.6.15 on Ubuntu LTS, with no problems to speak of. I understand FF has jumped a few hole release numbers because of problems. What's the story with FF? (Yeah, I've been in my cave) -- -Eric 'shubes' --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: chrome or opera
On 10/04/2011 08:45 PM, Joseph Sinclair wrote: Betty, On Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid), sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer will install flash (version 10.1.183 currently). They went to an automated installer instead of a proper package so that they aren't having to repackage Adobe's mess, the package just downloads the Adobe installer and installs it for you. You can also install the chromium-browser package to get Chrome without the Google branding. To get the Chromium beta channel (more up to date, but less tested) put the following 3 lines in a new file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/chromium-beta.list # Bring in the chromium beta channel for Lucid (10.04). deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/beta/ubuntu lucid main deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/beta/ubuntu lucid main Hopefully that will get chromium and flash working for you. On 10/04/2011 06:46 PM, betty wrote: On 10/04/2011 06:35 PM, Adam McCullough wrote: Installing Flash on a linux version of Chrome takes a bit of trickery. What I wound up doing was making a soft link from the flash library to /opt/chrome/plugins. That did the trick. uhh, how do i do that? or is that beyond my basic cl skill set? thx hmmm, did the above, but sadly no change. flash files work only in opera. too bad. maybe in the future. or maybe i should uninstall firefox and reinstall an older version? betty -- betty i. www.webcanine.com information for people who care for dogs. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: chrome or opera
All I ever did with ubuntu was visit the adobe flash installer and have it run its course. That made it work globally. On Oct 5, 2011 7:37 PM, betty nicepeng...@webcanine.com wrote: On 10/04/2011 08:45 PM, Joseph Sinclair wrote: Betty, On Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid), sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer will install flash (version 10.1.183 currently). They went to an automated installer instead of a proper package so that they aren't having to repackage Adobe's mess, the package just downloads the Adobe installer and installs it for you. You can also install the chromium-browser package to get Chrome without the Google branding. To get the Chromium beta channel (more up to date, but less tested) put the following 3 lines in a new file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/chromium-beta.list # Bring in the chromium beta channel for Lucid (10.04). deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/beta/ubuntu lucid main deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/beta/ubuntu lucid main Hopefully that will get chromium and flash working for you. On 10/04/2011 06:46 PM, betty wrote: On 10/04/2011 06:35 PM, Adam McCullough wrote: Installing Flash on a linux version of Chrome takes a bit of trickery. What I wound up doing was making a soft link from the flash library to /opt/chrome/plugins. That did the trick. uhh, how do i do that? or is that beyond my basic cl skill set? thx hmmm, did the above, but sadly no change. flash files work only in opera. too bad. maybe in the future. or maybe i should uninstall firefox and reinstall an older version? betty -- betty i. www.webcanine.com information for people who care for dogs. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
