Re: ABLEconf dates?

2011-10-13 Thread Joseph Sinclair
Considering they changed it 3 years in a row to match, it's hard to see it any 
other way.

On 10/12/2011 10:04 PM, Alan Dayley wrote:
 Deliberately?  Really?  Doubtful.
 
 Alan
 
 On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Joseph Sinclair
 plug-discuss...@stcaz.net wrote:
 24/25 is Saturday/Sunday.

 Desert Code Camp deliberately sets their date to coincide with ours in an 
 effort to limit the impact of ABLEConf; there's not much we can do about 
 their desire to harm free and open technology adoption in Arizona except 
 hope they eventually learn better.


 On 10/12/2011 03:08 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:
 My calendar shows March 24,25 2012 being Sat,Sun. No?
 Please clarify. ;)

 I sure hope we don't coincide with Desert Code Camp again. :(



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Re: ABLEconf dates?

2011-10-13 Thread Joseph Sinclair
There are 2, one in the spring and one in the fall.

On 10/12/2011 09:53 PM, Eric Cope wrote:
 DCC is November 5th...
 
 Eric
 
 On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Joseph Sinclair
 plug-discuss...@stcaz.netwrote:
 
 24/25 is Saturday/Sunday.

 Desert Code Camp deliberately sets their date to coincide with ours in an
 effort to limit the impact of ABLEConf; there's not much we can do about
 their desire to harm free and open technology adoption in Arizona except
 hope they eventually learn better.


 On 10/12/2011 03:08 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:
 My calendar shows March 24,25 2012 being Sat,Sun. No?
 Please clarify. ;)

 I sure hope we don't coincide with Desert Code Camp again. :(



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Re: ABLEconf dates?

2011-10-13 Thread Alan Dayley
Hmm.  I had not correlated that many conflicts.

There is a committee now running Desert Code Camp instead of one
person.  Hopefully that changes/softens any adversarial targeting by
someone.

If I get the sniff of any such specific nonsense, I will call it out.
In fact, I will ask some people about it in the next week.

Alan

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Joseph Sinclair
plug-discuss...@stcaz.net wrote:
 Considering they changed it 3 years in a row to match, it's hard to see it 
 any other way.

 On 10/12/2011 10:04 PM, Alan Dayley wrote:
 Deliberately?  Really?  Doubtful.

 Alan

 On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Joseph Sinclair
 plug-discuss...@stcaz.net wrote:
 24/25 is Saturday/Sunday.

 Desert Code Camp deliberately sets their date to coincide with ours in an 
 effort to limit the impact of ABLEConf; there's not much we can do about 
 their desire to harm free and open technology adoption in Arizona except 
 hope they eventually learn better.


 On 10/12/2011 03:08 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:
 My calendar shows March 24,25 2012 being Sat,Sun. No?
 Please clarify. ;)

 I sure hope we don't coincide with Desert Code Camp again. :(



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Re: ABLEconf dates?

2011-10-13 Thread Joseph Sinclair
Good to hear there's been an expansion of the leadership for DCC.
Nobody wins when different community organizations act in an adversarial manner.

On 10/13/2011 06:46 AM, Alan Dayley wrote:
 Hmm.  I had not correlated that many conflicts.
 
 There is a committee now running Desert Code Camp instead of one
 person.  Hopefully that changes/softens any adversarial targeting by
 someone.
 
 If I get the sniff of any such specific nonsense, I will call it out.
 In fact, I will ask some people about it in the next week.
 
 Alan
 
 On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Joseph Sinclair
 plug-discuss...@stcaz.net wrote:
 Considering they changed it 3 years in a row to match, it's hard to see it 
 any other way.

 On 10/12/2011 10:04 PM, Alan Dayley wrote:
 Deliberately? �Really? �Doubtful.

 Alan

 On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Joseph Sinclair
 plug-discuss...@stcaz.net wrote:
 24/25 is Saturday/Sunday.

 Desert Code Camp deliberately sets their date to coincide with ours in an 
 effort to limit the impact of ABLEConf; there's not much we can do about 
 their desire to harm free and open technology adoption in Arizona except 
 hope they eventually learn better.


 On 10/12/2011 03:08 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:
 My calendar shows March 24,25 2012 being Sat,Sun. No?
 Please clarify. ;)

 I sure hope we don't coincide with Desert Code Camp again. :(



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Re: ABLEconf dates?

2011-10-13 Thread Eric Shubert
If this turns out to be true, I guess I will have been to my last DCC. I 
have noticed an apparent lack of FOSS content in recent camps. No ruby 
any more, and 1 (out of 80) session on Linux.


Is someone going to contact the DCC committee in an attempt to work out 
scheduling conflicts?


Perhaps picketing at the the upcoming DCC would be appropriate if the 
direct method is fruitless.


--
-Eric 'shubes'

On 10/13/2011 07:58 AM, Joseph Sinclair wrote:

Good to hear there's been an expansion of the leadership for DCC.
Nobody wins when different community organizations act in an adversarial manner.

On 10/13/2011 06:46 AM, Alan Dayley wrote:

Hmm.  I had not correlated that many conflicts.

There is a committee now running Desert Code Camp instead of one
person.  Hopefully that changes/softens any adversarial targeting by
someone.

If I get the sniff of any such specific nonsense, I will call it out.
In fact, I will ask some people about it in the next week.

Alan

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Joseph Sinclair
plug-discuss...@stcaz.net  wrote:

Considering they changed it 3 years in a row to match, it's hard to see it any 
other way.

On 10/12/2011 10:04 PM, Alan Dayley wrote:

Deliberately? �Really? �Doubtful.

Alan

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Joseph Sinclair
plug-discuss...@stcaz.net  wrote:

24/25 is Saturday/Sunday.

Desert Code Camp deliberately sets their date to coincide with ours in an 
effort to limit the impact of ABLEConf; there's not much we can do about their 
desire to harm free and open technology adoption in Arizona except hope they 
eventually learn better.


On 10/12/2011 03:08 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:

My calendar shows March 24,25 2012 being Sat,Sun. No?
Please clarify. ;)

I sure hope we don't coincide with Desert Code Camp again. :(




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Re: ABLEconf dates?

2011-10-13 Thread Ed
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Alan Dayley aday...@gmail.com wrote:
 The content is up to people to suggest and volunteer to present.
 Obviously, if there has been purposeful scheduling to conflict with a
 major FOSS event, there will be less FOSS content at DCC.

 Sign up to present at DCC is still open and the November event does
 not conflict with ABLEconf. So it is up to FOSS people to sign up and
 vote interest to get FOSS content in the event.  No need to picket,
 just take over some classrooms!

 Alan

 On Oct 13, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:


just to pander - I'm presenting an out of the box topic:
Connecting Linked Data and Sharing Linked Data
SPARQL Queries, Endpoints and RDFa explained and demonstrated with
examples for commerce and identity.

the examples include GoodRelations a commerce focused ontology and
WebID, the W3C outgrowth of FOAF+SSL (distributed semantic
authentication) - hope to see you there

Ed
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