Re: ubuntu 12.04

2012-05-13 Thread Dazed_75
Betty,
Start by telling us about this computer (Brand, Model, CPU, memory, and
video card or chip).  It might also help to know HOW you tried to install
12.04.  For example, did you use a LiveCD and if so, did it boot and work
Live?  Or did you maybe  select Install from the opening menu thereby
bypassing running it in Live mode.  If you did manage to get to a command
prompt, try lshw -short to get some of that information.

Based on that kind of information, we have a better chance of helping.  For
example, if it is a Toshiba laptop, it is likely that using apci=off,
noacpi, or nomodeset on the boot line will help

On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 9:39 AM, betty nicepeng...@webcanine.com wrote:

 I tried to install 12.04lts on one of my computers and I can get the sign
 in at the beginning, but after i sign in the screen goes to black, if i
 click the mouse it goesto a reddish color then back to black. Tried
 re-installing, and same thing. There does not seem a way to get to the
 command line from the sign in screen either.
 Any one know what might be a fix? Should i try 11.xx instead?
 Many thanks.

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Re: libre office problem

2012-05-13 Thread Michael Havens
okay you inspired me to read the man page for rsync. Now for the
questions:
-I don't get the double colon (::)
-What is a module? the man page says that the first word of the pat is the
module name. I don''t get it!
-I am using a different browse on each machine. as I rsync it syncs .mozila
 files and .chromium files. Could I do

  --exclude


On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 you can tell rsync to delete with a switch. you just have to trust
 yourself with file deletetion :-)

 On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:
  yeah. looks like I copied the files with the locks in place so I copied
 the
  locks. then when I closed the files and rsynced again it didn't delete
 the
  locks because rsyn doesn't delete things. I still think we should have
 the
  option of deleting the lock when libreoffice detects it!
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rsync issues

2012-05-13 Thread Michael Havens
okay you inspired me to read the man page for rsync. Now for the
questions:
-I don't get the double colon (::)
-What is a module? the man page says that the first word of the pat is the
module name. I don''t get it!
-I am using a different browser on each machine. as I rsync it syncs
.mozila  files and .chromium files. Could I do

  --exclude-from=*mozilla*
and
  --exclude-from=*chrom*

to avoid copying these files? or am I mistaken in what I need to do


On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 you can tell rsync to delete with a switch. you just have to trust
 yourself with file deletetion :-)

 On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:
  yeah. looks like I copied the files with the locks in place so I copied
 the
  locks. then when I closed the files and rsynced again it didn't delete
 the
  locks because rsyn doesn't delete things. I still think we should have
 the
  option of deleting the lock when libreoffice detects it!
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Re: rsync issues

2012-05-13 Thread James Mcphee
An rsync module is a defined virtual target in the rsyncd config as
explained in http://transamrit.net/docs/rsync/ which gives you greater
control of resources you open up to be rsync'd.

The exclude-from option gives certain files you can prevent from synching,
while the exclude option is a pattern you can match.  The opposite of which
are include-from and include, respectively.



On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 12:25 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 okay you inspired me to read the man page for rsync. Now for the
 questions:
 -I don't get the double colon (::)
 -What is a module? the man page says that the first word of the pat is the
 module name. I don''t get it!
 -I am using a different browser on each machine. as I rsync it syncs
 .mozila  files and .chromium files. Could I do

   --exclude-from=*mozilla*
 and
   --exclude-from=*chrom*

 to avoid copying these files? or am I mistaken in what I need to do


 On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 you can tell rsync to delete with a switch. you just have to trust
 yourself with file deletetion :-)

 On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:
  yeah. looks like I copied the files with the locks in place so I copied
 the
  locks. then when I closed the files and rsynced again it didn't delete
 the
  locks because rsyn doesn't delete things. I still think we should have
 the
  option of deleting the lock when libreoffice detects it!
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samba

2012-05-13 Thread Michael Havens
I need to get my brother's xp to print. We had it printing at one time but
then my print server had a hard drive melt down about a year ago and it
hasn't printed since. I also have not had the laptop printing unless I plug
it in (we had it printing wirelessly).

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Re: rsync issues

2012-05-13 Thread Stephen
All I did was to ass a flag to allow deleted files to be deleted from the
rsync.
On May 13, 2012 12:25 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 okay you inspired me to read the man page for rsync. Now for the
 questions:
 -I don't get the double colon (::)
 -What is a module? the man page says that the first word of the pat is the
 module name. I don''t get it!
 -I am using a different browser on each machine. as I rsync it syncs
 .mozila  files and .chromium files. Could I do

   --exclude-from=*mozilla*
 and
   --exclude-from=*chrom*

 to avoid copying these files? or am I mistaken in what I need to do


 On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 you can tell rsync to delete with a switch. you just have to trust
 yourself with file deletetion :-)

 On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:
  yeah. looks like I copied the files with the locks in place so I copied
 the
  locks. then when I closed the files and rsynced again it didn't delete
 the
  locks because rsyn doesn't delete things. I still think we should have
 the
  option of deleting the lock when libreoffice detects it!
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 rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.

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Re: rsync issues

2012-05-13 Thread Michael Havens
That's all it took, buddy!

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 All I did was to ass a flag to allow deleted files to be deleted from the
 rsync.
 On May 13, 2012 12:25 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 okay you inspired me to read the man page for rsync. Now for the
 questions:
 -I don't get the double colon (::)
 -What is a module? the man page says that the first word of the pat is
 the module name. I don''t get it!
 -I am using a different browser on each machine. as I rsync it syncs
 .mozila  files and .chromium files. Could I do

   --exclude-from=*mozilla*
 and
   --exclude-from=*chrom*

 to avoid copying these files? or am I mistaken in what I need to do


 On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 you can tell rsync to delete with a switch. you just have to trust
 yourself with file deletetion :-)

 On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  yeah. looks like I copied the files with the locks in place so I
 copied the
  locks. then when I closed the files and rsynced again it didn't delete
 the
  locks because rsyn doesn't delete things. I still think we should have
 the
  option of deleting the lock when libreoffice detects it!
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 rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.

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Linux Stammtisch - Tuesday

2012-05-13 Thread PLUG Announcements
We'll be meeting up at Iguana Macks at 7pm on Tuesday for the Linux 
Stammtisch.  They have new owners and a new menu and the quality seems 
to have improved significantly.  Come on out and see what's changed.


A Stammtisch is a gathering of people with a common interest, so there 
is no formal presentation.


Please come and join us for some good conversation over good food and 
drinks, which are both optional... Friends and family are all welcome.


The private room that we have has power and high speed wireless 
Internet, so if you have any problems, feel free to bring in your 
machine and we'll see what we can do to fix your problem...  We even 
have facilities there to do a formal presentation, so if you have a 
projector and want to show everyone something exciting, we can handle 
that as well.


Iguana Macks is located on the South East corner of Knox (half way 
between Warner and Ray) and Alma School in Chandler.


1371 N Alma School Rd
Chandler, Arizona 85224
(480) 899-6735

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I got a message from google this morning.

2012-05-13 Thread Michael Havens
This is the second message I've gotten from them telling me someone broke
into my account. The first time it was someone in China and this time
someone in Georgia. Is google just filling us with paranoia or is someone
really hacking me?

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Re: I got a message from google this morning.

2012-05-13 Thread Stephen
What tools and services do you use? I used one that was bouncing me off a
Chinese server... found that out and canceled it asap.
On May 13, 2012 3:57 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is the second message I've gotten from them telling me someone broke
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Re: I got a message from google this morning.

2012-05-13 Thread Michael Havens
It was a password that was 15 characters long with non alfa-numeric
characters too. And I thought it would never be cracked!

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 what do you mean by tools and services? it is just gmail. How die you find
 out you were beong bounced off Chinese servers?


 On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 What tools and services do you use? I used one that was bouncing me off a
 Chinese server... found that out and canceled it asap.
 On May 13, 2012 3:57 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

  This is the second message I've gotten from them telling me someone
 broke into my account. The first time it was someone in China and this time
 someone in Georgia. Is google just filling us with paranoia or is someone
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Re: I got a message from google this morning.

2012-05-13 Thread James Mcphee
Possible one of your services was compromised.
On May 13, 2012 4:02 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 what do you mean by tools and services? it is just gmail. How die you find
 out you were beong bounced off Chinese servers?

 On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 What tools and services do you use? I used one that was bouncing me off a
 Chinese server... found that out and canceled it asap.
 On May 13, 2012 3:57 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

  This is the second message I've gotten from them telling me someone
 broke into my account. The first time it was someone in China and this time
 someone in Georgia. Is google just filling us with paranoia or is someone
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Re: I got a message from google this morning.

2012-05-13 Thread Stephen
I was useing a chat program on my phone. And 5 min from each time I'd get
the warning. So I figured it out from there.

And it could have been gathered in another way. Not just brute force...
On May 13, 2012 4:14 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 It was a password that was 15 characters long with non alfa-numeric
 characters too. And I thought it would never be cracked!

 On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 what do you mean by tools and services? it is just gmail. How die you
 find out you were beong bounced off Chinese servers?


 On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 What tools and services do you use? I used one that was bouncing me off
 a Chinese server... found that out and canceled it asap.
 On May 13, 2012 3:57 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

  This is the second message I've gotten from them telling me someone
 broke into my account. The first time it was someone in China and this time
 someone in Georgia. Is google just filling us with paranoia or is someone
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Re: I got a message from google this morning.

2012-05-13 Thread Alex Dean
Are you sure that message is from Google? Could be more phishing.

On May 13, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Michael Havens wrote:

 This is the second message I've gotten from them telling me someone broke 
 into my account. The first time it was someone in China and this time someone 
 in Georgia. Is google just filling us with paranoia or is someone really 
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Re: I got a message from google this morning.

2012-05-13 Thread Matt Graham
 On May 13, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
 This is the second message I've gotten from them telling me someone
 broke into my account. [...] Is google just filling us with paranoia
 or is someone really hacking me?
From: Alex Dean a...@crackpot.org
 Are you sure that message is from Google? Could be more phishing.

Phishing attempts are usually totally obvious if you look at the full headers
of a message and/or the href= attributes of any links within the HTML portions
of a message.  So:  Take a look at the message's raw source and find out.

(If this *is* phishing, I fully expect to see about 20 mails like this in my
work account tomorrow morning, since whoever's in charge of mail filtering
there seems to miss a lot of stuff)

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Re: I got a message from google this morning.

2012-05-13 Thread Dazed_75
The one such message I got from google was real.  The person also got into
and stole my Blizzard account before I got an authenticator.

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.netwrote:

  On May 13, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
  This is the second message I've gotten from them telling me someone
  broke into my account. [...] Is google just filling us with paranoia
  or is someone really hacking me?
 From: Alex Dean a...@crackpot.org
  Are you sure that message is from Google? Could be more phishing.

 Phishing attempts are usually totally obvious if you look at the full
 headers
 of a message and/or the href= attributes of any links within the HTML
 portions
 of a message.  So:  Take a look at the message's raw source and find out.

 (If this *is* phishing, I fully expect to see about 20 mails like this in
 my
 work account tomorrow morning, since whoever's in charge of mail filtering
 there seems to miss a lot of stuff)

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Re: I got a message from google this morning.

2012-05-13 Thread Technomage Hawke
Before I went total a couple of years back, I used to play WoW and after they 
got their mail database compromised, I would start getting loads of PHISHES, 
spam and other mails. So, I made a new gmail account specifically for WoW and 
changed the email in WoW to reflect this. I still get spams and malicious mails 
purporting to be from blizzard, even though I haven't been in the game for 
slightly longer than 2 years. That WoW only gmail address? still empty after 
all this time. between this and the authenticator, my account was fairly 
secure. BTW, anyone want a WoW account with a bunch of inactive level 80's 
sitting there? I never did go into cataclysm and it seems a shame to have the 
authenticator sitting here unused. Blizzard was kind enough to send me the 
proceedure by which I could give the account to someone else (I still have that 
email). 

-eric

On May 13, 2012, at 8:44 PM, Dazed_75 wrote:

 The one such message I got from google was real.  The person also got into 
 and stole my Blizzard account before I got an authenticator.
 
 On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.net wrote:
  On May 13, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
  This is the second message I've gotten from them telling me someone
  broke into my account. [...] Is google just filling us with paranoia
  or is someone really hacking me?
 From: Alex Dean a...@crackpot.org
  Are you sure that message is from Google? Could be more phishing.
 
 Phishing attempts are usually totally obvious if you look at the full headers
 of a message and/or the href= attributes of any links within the HTML portions
 of a message.  So:  Take a look at the message's raw source and find out.
 
 (If this *is* phishing, I fully expect to see about 20 mails like this in my
 work account tomorrow morning, since whoever's in charge of mail filtering
 there seems to miss a lot of stuff)
 
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 There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
 
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 Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry
 
 Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to 
 multiple recipients, always use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy) and not To: or 
 CC:. Remove all addresses from the message body before sending a Forwarded 
 message. This can prevent spy programs capturing addresses from the recipient 
 list and message body.
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