Re: OT: Google Voice question.

2012-09-14 Thread joe

Thanks very much Joseph. I have the highest regard and appreciation for
your knowledge, many valuable explanations, and excellent suggestions and
solutions.

After implementing the remedy that Brian suggested, Google Voice now seems
to be a perfect solution for my needs.

Google voice-mail now answers all calls to my 30-year established toll
free number instantly with not even a single ring delay; and it answers
calls to our existing land-line home phone number after just two or three
rings.  That is exactly what we needed.  Plus, it also provides free
voice-mail transcription of all voice-mail recorded calls, custom
answering, and call filtering; so I can't imagine any other telephone
service being as ideal as this for my needs ... and it's all free.  What
could possibly be better?

--
> I understand what you want to do.  I was simply pointing out that
> if that's what you want then Google Voice is simply the wrong tool.
> If you try to use a sports car to haul dirt, you might manage it but
> it would be a lot easier if you just use a truck.
>
> If you want business voicemail, then there are many providers for exactly
> that; you seem to have found a way to shoehorn Google Voice into your use
> case, but I still suggest that you may find an actual business voice mail
> service to be far better at accomplishing your stated goals.



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Re: OT: Google Voice question.

2012-09-14 Thread Stephen
Attaching your toll free number to GV?

That's actually how its meant to work.
On Sep 14, 2012 12:02 AM,  wrote:

>
> Thanks very much Joseph. I have the highest regard and appreciation for
> your knowledge, many valuable explanations, and excellent suggestions and
> solutions.
>
> After implementing the remedy that Brian suggested, Google Voice now seems
> to be a perfect solution for my needs.
>
> Google voice-mail now answers all calls to my 30-year established toll
> free number instantly with not even a single ring delay; and it answers
> calls to our existing land-line home phone number after just two or three
> rings.  That is exactly what we needed.  Plus, it also provides free
> voice-mail transcription of all voice-mail recorded calls, custom
> answering, and call filtering; so I can't imagine any other telephone
> service being as ideal as this for my needs ... and it's all free.  What
> could possibly be better?
>
> --
> > I understand what you want to do.  I was simply pointing out that
> > if that's what you want then Google Voice is simply the wrong tool.
> > If you try to use a sports car to haul dirt, you might manage it but
> > it would be a lot easier if you just use a truck.
> >
> > If you want business voicemail, then there are many providers for exactly
> > that; you seem to have found a way to shoehorn Google Voice into your use
> > case, but I still suggest that you may find an actual business voice mail
> > service to be far better at accomplishing your stated goals.
>
>
>
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Re: OT: Google Voice question.

2012-09-14 Thread Bob Elzer
Why not transfer you long established number to google voice, then you 
could take advantage of all the features




On 9/13/2012 5:46 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote:

I think you misunderstand what Google Voice is.

Is it wrong of me to want to use the many good features of Google Voice
that I very much appreciate in the way that I want to use it (and keeping
my 20-year established and widely published land line number as my
primary, ring-first number)?  I do not want to go through the nuisance and
annoyance of changing my primary, published telephone number everywhere.


1) It is NOT voicemail. It has voicemail, but it's intended
to function opposite to a voicemail service.

To each his own.


2) People should be calling your Google Voice number directly; it then
forwards to (rings) one or more actual phones (home phone, cellphone,
gmail, etc...) and redirects to voicemail if you don't pick up.

That is just not what I need or want.


The idea is that you give everyone your Google Voice number, but not your
home or cell number(s).  Then you can change home or cell service without
impact to people who want to call you.

Again, that is not what I need or want.


You also gain control options, such as setting some callers to only ring
through on weekdays, or setting some callers to ring the home phone but
not the cellphone.

Again, that is not what I need or want.


So the reason it doesn't work the way you want is that your concept has it
behind your normal phone; it's actually the reverse in that your normal
phone is *behind* Google Voice.

Again, I just want my "normal" land-line phone to be my primary telephone
and my primary telephone number.  Is it wrong to want that and to want to
use Google Voice in the way I want and need to use it?

I have two different Google Voice numbers for two different applications,
one personal and one business. For the business application, *all* calls
to my toll free number are forwarded instantly and directly to my business
Google Voice number and I need that number answered by voice mail on the
*first ring* because that toll free number is *never* answered "live" and
the 25 second (five+ ring) delay is a serious detriment.  All calls *must*
be recorded for my business application and the transcribing that Google
Voice does for those calls is extremely valuable.  The 25-second five-ring
delay is extremely detrimental.

Judging from the many posts on the 'net on this same subject, many, many
other people have the same need that I have.



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Re: OT: Google Voice question.

2012-09-14 Thread joe
> Why not transfer your long established number to google voice,
> then you could take advantage of all the features

As far as I know, google does not allow the transfer of either a land line
number or a toll free number to google voice.

And, since my current setup is now working perfectly to satisfy all of my
tele-com needs and objectives (and it does take advantage of all of the GV
features that I need and want), I don't know of any features or benefits
that I might be missing.



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Re: OT: Google Voice question.

2012-09-14 Thread Ed
damn - now I have to go to Home Depot
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why /var/log/messages went crazy?

2012-09-14 Thread joe
Several days ago, my /var/log/messages (and syslog and user.log) went
crazy adding entries so fast that my system crashed due to the root
partition filling up and giving a "no space left" message.

Thanks to help from plug and another forum, I was able to delete enough
files to regain enough file space to get the system restarted, and I then
flushed the overloaded error message files and for several days, no
messages were added in /var/log/messages , syslog, and user.log for about
a week. I was checking for new messages every day or two and all seemed to
be okay until today, something caused the /var/log/messages and syslog
files to start filling up rapidly again.  This time I saved 1,000 of the
most recent entries in the messages file (several thousand messages were
added today), shut the system down, and rebooted.  After that, the
messages and syslog files slowed down to a trickle ... but how can I
figure out what is causing a flare-up like this?

I've posted the last 1,000 entries at this link:
http://www.upquick.com/temp/messages.last1000

As you can see, messages were being added at a rate of 15 to 20 per second
before I shut the system down.  After reboot, messages were only added
every couple of minutes or so.

Can anyone please tell me what might be causing these message flare-ups
and how to stop it.

-rw-rw-r-- 1 root273529 Sep 10 03:54 user.log.1
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root364185 Sep 10 04:02 syslog.1
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root361529 Sep 10 04:02 messages.1

-rw-rw-r-- 1 root   4755667 Sep 14 17:57 user.log
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root   5114200 Sep 14 17:57 syslog
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root   5092302 Sep 14 17:57 messages

-rw-rw-r-- 1 root   4756252 Sep 14 17:59 user.log
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root   5114992 Sep 14 17:59 syslog
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root   5093094 Sep 14 17:59 messages



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Re: why /var/log/messages went crazy?

2012-09-14 Thread James Mcphee
You could try patching you system and updating your BIOS.  I don't
recommend turning off acpi if you can avoid it.  You may suppress repeated
messages if it gets to burdensome until a patch is released.

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 6:47 PM,  wrote:

> Several days ago, my /var/log/messages (and syslog and user.log) went
> crazy adding entries so fast that my system crashed due to the root
> partition filling up and giving a "no space left" message.
>
> Thanks to help from plug and another forum, I was able to delete enough
> files to regain enough file space to get the system restarted, and I then
> flushed the overloaded error message files and for several days, no
> messages were added in /var/log/messages , syslog, and user.log for about
> a week. I was checking for new messages every day or two and all seemed to
> be okay until today, something caused the /var/log/messages and syslog
> files to start filling up rapidly again.  This time I saved 1,000 of the
> most recent entries in the messages file (several thousand messages were
> added today), shut the system down, and rebooted.  After that, the
> messages and syslog files slowed down to a trickle ... but how can I
> figure out what is causing a flare-up like this?
>
> I've posted the last 1,000 entries at this link:
> http://www.upquick.com/temp/messages.last1000
>
> As you can see, messages were being added at a rate of 15 to 20 per second
> before I shut the system down.  After reboot, messages were only added
> every couple of minutes or so.
>
> Can anyone please tell me what might be causing these message flare-ups
> and how to stop it.
>
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 root273529 Sep 10 03:54 user.log.1
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 root364185 Sep 10 04:02 syslog.1
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 root361529 Sep 10 04:02 messages.1
>
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 root   4755667 Sep 14 17:57 user.log
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 root   5114200 Sep 14 17:57 syslog
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 root   5092302 Sep 14 17:57 messages
>
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 root   4756252 Sep 14 17:59 user.log
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 root   5114992 Sep 14 17:59 syslog
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 root   5093094 Sep 14 17:59 messages
>
>
>
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RE: why /var/log/messages went crazy?

2012-09-14 Thread Carruth, Rusty

I will guess that this is just as you were shutting down, so the avahi daemon 
shutdown is 'normal'.

So, it looks to me like something is funny with acpi.  Have you google'd for 
all or part of the error message?  Did you add or remove some hardware between 
the time it always worked fine and the time it started to die?  I forget it you 
upgraded between those points - please remind us.

I don't know enough about ACPI to know what to suggest, and if turning it off 
is semi-irrevocable (if not, i'd try turning it off and see if the system stays 
'non-spewing' for a 'long time' (relative to past experiences).

Just a few thunks

Rusty

-Original Message-
From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us on behalf of 
j...@actionline.com
Sent: Fri 9/14/2012 6:47 PM
To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Subject: why /var/log/messages went crazy? 
 
Several days ago, my /var/log/messages (and syslog and user.log) went
crazy adding entries so fast that my system crashed due to the root
partition filling up and giving a "no space left" message.

Thanks to help from plug and another forum, I was able to delete enough
files to regain enough file space to get the system restarted, and I then
flushed the overloaded error message files and for several days, no
messages were added in /var/log/messages , syslog, and user.log for about
a week. I was checking for new messages every day or two and all seemed to
be okay until today, something caused the /var/log/messages and syslog
files to start filling up rapidly again.  This time I saved 1,000 of the
most recent entries in the messages file (several thousand messages were
added today), shut the system down, and rebooted.  After that, the
messages and syslog files slowed down to a trickle ... but how can I
figure out what is causing a flare-up like this?

I've posted the last 1,000 entries at this link:
http://www.upquick.com/temp/messages.last1000

As you can see, messages were being added at a rate of 15 to 20 per second
before I shut the system down.  After reboot, messages were only added
every couple of minutes or so.

Can anyone please tell me what might be causing these message flare-ups
and how to stop it.

-rw-rw-r-- 1 root273529 Sep 10 03:54 user.log.1
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root364185 Sep 10 04:02 syslog.1
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root361529 Sep 10 04:02 messages.1

-rw-rw-r-- 1 root   4755667 Sep 14 17:57 user.log
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root   5114200 Sep 14 17:57 syslog
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root   5092302 Sep 14 17:57 messages

-rw-rw-r-- 1 root   4756252 Sep 14 17:59 user.log
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root   5114992 Sep 14 17:59 syslog
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root   5093094 Sep 14 17:59 messages



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Fwd: RE: making PDFs workable

2012-09-14 Thread James Crawford



What I did to setup for the conversion Note I'm doing this on a CentOS 
5.x system

1. Add RpmForge to the YUM repo file
wget 
http://packages.sw.be/rpmforge-release/rpmforge-release-0.5.2-2.el5.rf.i386.rpm 


rpm --import http://apt.sw.be/RPM-GPG-KEY.dag.txt
rpm -K rpmforge-release-0.5.2-2.el5.rf.i386.rpm
rpm -i rpmforge-release-0.5.2-2.el5.rf.i386.rpm
2. install tesseract
yum -y install tesseract tesseract-en

This makes it possible to do the following;
gs -r300x300 -sDEVICE=tiffgray -sOutputFile=ocr_%02d.tif 
-dBATCH -dNOPAUSE 

where the options are
-r is resoultion
-sDEVICE for monocrome output
-sOutputFile=outputfilename note %02d causes the page 
number to be inserted into the filename

Followed by
tesseract inputFile outputfile -l eng
where the options are
input is the output tif files from gs
outputfile will be given a .txt extentsion
-l language of input file lish
And then put the pages back together by
>cat tess-outfile01.txt tess-outfile02.txt ... 
tess-outfilenn.txt > Input.txt


There will some failed conversion/bad guesses by the tesseract program 
so check the final output for correctness.


Bash Script to do the conversion
< This got reformatted and I attempted to put it back the way I 
remembered it.>

< the tesseract step takes a while on each page>
<<<
#!/bin/bash
# # # # # # Use this script to convert a pdf formated file to text
# The Input file will be split into single page tiff files
# which will be run through tesseract to OCR the files into
# text files. the text files will be reassimbled into a
# single text file.
# # NOTE: There will still be some cleanup of the text files
# as the OCR is not perfect.
# # # # # # # # Get Input file name, and final output filename
InFile=${1:-"infile.pdf"}
TIFFile="${InFile%.pdf}"
OutFile=${2:-"$TIFFile.txt"}
echo "Input from $InFile, OCR output to $OutFile"
if [ ! -e "$InFile" ] ; then
echo "$InFile not found. exiting"
exit 1
elsif [ ! -r "$InFile" ]
echo " Read not allowed on $InFile. exiting"
exit 1
fi
# setup a temp working area
WrkDir="/tmp/$(date +%s)"
mkdir $WrkDir
echo " Working Dir = $WrkDir"
cp $InFile $WrkDir/
Hdir=$(pwd)
cd $WrkDir
# pwd
gs -r300x300 -sDEVICE=tiffgray -sOutputFile=$TIFFile%02d.tif -dBATCH 
-dNOPAUSE $InFile >files

TifCount=$(grep "Page " files | wc -l)
rm files
#
ls -l *.tif
echo "number of pages to process = $TifCount"
for wtif in $(ls *.tif); do
wtxt=${wtif%.tif}
tesseract "$wtif" "$wtxt" -l eng
done
#
ls -l *.txt TxtFiles=$( ls *.txt )
touch $OutFile
for Tf in $TxtFiles; do
#
echo "Working on $Tf, "
cat "$Tf" >> $OutFile
done
ls -l
cp $OutFile $Hdir/
cd $Hdir
# once debuged enable the following
rm -fr $WrkDir
exit 0
>>>

James C


Pdf2txt.sh
Description: Binary data
Pdf to Text

The bash script Pdf2txt.sh located in the same directory as this file
will do all the following steps for PDFs upto 99 pages. It is also
on test.sb.state.az.us (10.168.30.100) in /home/jimc.


Convert .pdf document to single page .tif format documents
>gs -r300x300 -sDEVICE=tiffgray -sOutputFile=ocr_%02d.tif -dBATCH -dNOPAUSE 
>
-r is resoultion
-sDEVICE for monocrome output
-sOutputFile=outputfilename
note %02d causes the page number to be inserted
into the filename

next use tesseract to convert each page to text
>tesseract  inputFile outputfile -l eng
input is the output tif files from gs
outputfile will be given a .txt extentsion
-l language of input file lish

reassemble the ocr'ed .txt files into a single document
>cat tess-outfile01.txt tess-outfile02.txt ... tess-outfilenn.txt > Input.txt


on test server <10.168.30.100 test.sb.state.az.us>
I have installed tesseract using the following
yum -y install tesseract tesseract-en
using the Rpmforge repositorys
  wget 
http://packages.sw.be/rpmforge-release/rpmforge-release-0.5.2-2.el5.rf.i386.rpm
  rpm --import  http://apt.sw.be/RPM-GPG-KEY.dag.txt
  rpm -K rpmforge-release-0.5.2-2.el5.rf.i386.rpm
  rpm -i rpmforge-release-0.5.2-2.el5.rf.i386.rpm


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Re: why /var/log/messages went crazy?

2012-09-14 Thread JD Austin
Try going into your bios and disabling ACPI (power management)

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/475704

What I found helped out was going into my BIOS settings at boot-up time
with F11. Then going into the Power tab and disabling ACPI. Then I still
get about 10 errors like the one above when I startup, but at least its not
the constant log filling that was happening before. I found some
documentation listing the BIOS in the SR1700 series of Compaqs as broken.

http://www.columbia.edu/~ariel/acpi/acpi_howto.txt


On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 6:47 PM,  wrote:

> Several days ago, my /var/log/messages (and syslog and user.log) went
> crazy adding entries so fast that my system crashed due to the root
> partition filling up and giving a "no space left" message.
>
> Thanks to help from plug and another forum, I was able to delete enough
> files to regain enough file space to get the system restarted, and I then
> flushed the overloaded error message files and for several days, no
> messages were added in /var/log/messages , syslog, and user.log for about
> a week. I was checking for new messages every day or two and all seemed to
> be okay until today, something caused the /var/log/messages and syslog
> files to start filling up rapidly again.  This time I saved 1,000 of the
> most recent entries in the messages file (several thousand messages were
> added today), shut the system down, and rebooted.  After that, the
> messages and syslog files slowed down to a trickle ... but how can I
> figure out what is causing a flare-up like this?
>
> I've posted the last 1,000 entries at this link:
> http://www.upquick.com/temp/messages.last1000
>
> As you can see, messages were being added at a rate of 15 to 20 per second
> before I shut the system down.  After reboot, messages were only added
> every couple of minutes or so.
>
> Can anyone please tell me what might be causing these message flare-ups
> and how to stop it.
>
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 root273529 Sep 10 03:54 user.log.1
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 root364185 Sep 10 04:02 syslog.1
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 root361529 Sep 10 04:02 messages.1
>
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 root   4755667 Sep 14 17:57 user.log
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 root   5114200 Sep 14 17:57 syslog
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 root   5092302 Sep 14 17:57 messages
>
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 root   4756252 Sep 14 17:59 user.log
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 root   5114992 Sep 14 17:59 syslog
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 root   5093094 Sep 14 17:59 messages
>
>
>
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