Re: OT: (sort of) Village in is now THE editor!
Oh. Nice find. :-) There's a legacy "vi" near the Intel Chandler campus that closed up sometime back. Maybe they'll re-release under the new banner :-). ymmv, C.G. On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Alan Dayley wrote: > According to the following photo, Village Inn restaurant is evidently > re-branding themselves as a well known text editor. Some say, the > only true text editor. > > http://twitpic.com/9mndv > > In lower-case, even! We should have a Stammtisch there sometime. > > Alan > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Carlos Macedo Gomes http://claimid.com/cmgomes --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Sonoran Penguin
Like the others I also really like this image :-). I dig the sunset, silhouette, and cactus actions. A couple weeks back I saw the "russian Linux" image floating around. I wonder if someone can figure out a way to make Lizard vs Tux mashup :-) http://carcino.gen.nz/images/index.php/00b9a680/7fe6c8ad thanks, C.G. On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > Just like it says! > > -- > > (623)239-3392 > (503)754-4452 www.obnosis.com > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Carlos Macedo Gomes http://claimid.com/cmgomes --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: back on the bike kick (again)
Last time I checked IPSec was available. I've thought about getting it myself for my KLR650 but kept thinking people would be reading it as "I pee sec" and didn't want to deal w/ the "what are you pee'ing" questions... :-P C.G. On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Jim March <1.jim.ma...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:34 PM, James Finstrom > wrote: > > Well I ended up getting a 2006 Suzuki gs500f which rides awesome. So now > I > > want to get a geeky vanity plate and all the good ones I came up eith > were > > taken according to the servicearizona website. That said looking for some > > suggestions for a plate 5 chars or less > > > > Thanks, > > > > James > > Great starter bike. A lot of people have learned to ride fast on > those without a peaky powerband that can kill you in mid-corner. > > As to a plate: > > ILUVC > > BASH# > > LINUX (yeah, I know, fat chance...) > > MYSQL ? > > Not geek related but: > > 5 CAR (and then put a little blue dot before the "5" to get "half a car") > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Carlos Macedo Gomes http://claimid.com/cmgomes --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
X11 running on Palm's WebOS..
Details at PreCentrals forums: http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/240926-x-server-pre.html <http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/240926-x-server-pre.html>There's a video showing OpenOffice 2.4 loading (forever): http://www.precentral.net/x-server-coming-webos-bringing-along-openoffice#comments <http://www.precentral.net/x-server-coming-webos-bringing-along-openoffice#comments> Everything is pretty "Alpha" or "Beta" quality and duct tape is still required to bind the tubes together at this point but I've been having a good time playing around w/ PreWare, Homebrew and WebOS-Internals on my Pre Plus: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Main_Page <http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Main_Page>I'm planning to have a look at setting up X-server this weekend - probably Sunday but figured I'd mention something since the PLUG wires been quite tonight. cheers, C.G. -- Carlos Macedo Gomes http://claimid.com/cmgomes --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Red Hat Enterprise 4 & 5 : OpenSSH critical update available...
Last week Red Hat detected an intrusion on certain of its computer systems and took immediate action. While the investigation into the intrusion is on-going, our initial focus was to review and test the distribution channel we use with our customers, Red Hat Network (RHN) and its associated security measures. Based on these efforts, we remain highly confident that our systems and processes prevented the intrusion from compromising RHN or the content distributed via RHN and accordingly believe that customers who keep their systems updated using Red Hat Network are not at risk. We are issuing this alert primarily for those who may obtain Red Hat binary packages via channels other than those of official Red Hat subscribers. http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2008-0855.html Not as big as the recent Debian/Openssh issue but stilll notable. Keep your prime numbers dry :-) ymmv, C.G. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT - Have you seen this ad?
NPR's Talk of the Nation had this as a topic last week: http://www.npr.org/blogs/talk/2008/08/car_vs_cyclist_1.html I work at Intel in Chandler and ride to work when I can (both motorcycle and bicycle). The benefits, for me at least, mentally and physically outway the risks. I've only had one incident where a pickup loaded with goofballs decided to blare their horn at my as they passed. This was the section of 48St just north of Guadalupe where's there more than enough room for everyone so I'm sure they were just looking to cause problems. That said, I've known cyclists (moto and bi) that also look for trouble so it's not just motorists. I do hope folks and communities figure out a way to share... ymmv, C.G. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: 10 years in PLUG
Congratulations PLUG!! Will there be cake? :-P Having lived in Austin, TX and NYC (hot areas for various OSS/FSS/Free-Wifi UGs) I have to say that PLUG is on the top of the bunch of groups I've interacted with in regards to commitment, content, and coordination. Here's hoping for the next 10 years to be as productive and enjoyable as the last 10 :-) Best regards, C.G. On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 3:13 PM, eculbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Remember the 'townhouse' installfests? of the late 90's?? Clarendon and > Central!! > > I brought that kludge from compac.. the, I think, 100 pentium that some > idiot engineer thought he could overclock to 166 and it wasn't totally > stable with ANY o/s!! Idiot = intel and their 'bright team'! Had 166 stamped > right on the chip no less. Even redhat would crash, finally gave up when I > found out its 'history' so to speak of that substrate/IC. > > Ed/ke7feg Hurry up November...enough heat so far!! > > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: blow me away, Alex Costellanos on CNN tonight
I heard the same thing. I was a bit in WTF mode waiting for him to say something off target with ESR's essay or negative about the movement but it was actually very positive. I'm not sure anyone else understood what he was talking about but it was a cool moment for OSS :-). ymmv, C.G. On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > at 11:11 pm AZ time (probably can find it in a transcript eventually)... > > Alex Costellanos, a talking head on CNN this election cycle with the > title of Republican Strategist just complemented Obama's speech on the > concept of bottom up and made a direct comparison to the ESR essay 'The > Cathedral and the Bazaar' and representing the change of philosophy from > the proprietary Microsoft type software to the Open Source movement. > > I kid you not...I almost fell out of my chair. > > Craig > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Matrix running windows
Nice find. It's kinda slow moving but make sure to watch all the way to the end :-). ymmv On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Mike Hoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nice > > 2008/11/11 Kevin Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1886349 > > > > > > --- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > -- > Mike Hoy > http://mikehoy.net > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT
Festive Festivus :-P Merry Christmas, y'all. C.G. On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Stephen wrote: > Merry xmas, hannukah, whatever your prefremce > > On 12/24/08, bmike1 wrote: >> Merry Christmas! (98% of the country ceñebrates it if you don´t you will >> have to deal with my greeting how you wish) >> >> -- >> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. > > Stephen > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- powerofpri...@gmail.com Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: EC2 users?
I'm using AWS (i.e., the online disk space portion) on a pretty regular basis for small online backups and automated synchronization between devices. Have been using it since Fall 08 and am very pleased. As for Elastic Computing (EC2), last year I kicked the tires on couple virtual computer images (AMIs such as FreeBSD, OpenSolaris, Win 2K3 Server, and I think Fedora or Ubuntu) to see how provisioning, installing and access worked. It was pretty slick and I was happy with the whole setup except for pricing (I very roughly estimated it at about $80/month for just the virtual computer footprint on the grid with no major traffic spikes). As with most things ymmv but I'm keeping an eye on Amazon for AWS and EC2 and other future projects... hth, C.G. On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Stephen wrote: > honestly no, but it looks neat. > > your talking about the Amazon Web Services EC2 right? > > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Joshua Zeidner wrote: >> hello, >> >> anyone using EC2 on a regular basis here? >> >> -jmz >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > > -- > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. > > Stephen > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- powerofpri...@gmail.com Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: EC2 users?
Cool. We're galaxies away from the days of (slowly) loading Linux on (usually surplus) gear using 20 or so (rawrite created) 1.44MB floppies :-P. Good times. Not sure if this has hit PLUGer's screens yet: "IBM Software Available on EC2 With Pay-As-You-Go Licensing Model" http://aws.typepad.com/aws/2009/02/ibm-software-now-available-on-payasyougo-basis.html We've teamed up with IBM to provide software developers with pay-as-you-go access to development and production versions of IBM Information Management database servers, IBM Lotus(R) content management, and IBM WebSphere(R) portal and middleware products, all running on Novell's SUSE Linux on Amazon EC2. Now if only the price could drop by a good factor... Maybe an economy subscriber model for only 90% uptime instead of 4-Nines :-). ymmv, C.G. On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > Been really getting into the APIs lately. the scaling potential for > EC2 apps is awesome. The primary detractor is price. > > I might publish my AMI, its Ubuntu + Java web stack. Also, thanks > again to Lisa for working out some of the initial problems I had with > SSH keys. > > -jmz > > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Austin Godber wrote: >> These have always been sufficient for my general purpose needs: >>http://alestic.com/ >> They even provide the scripts they used to build them. >> >> Otherwise I have made my own AMIs. >> >> Austin >> >> >> On Feb 11, 2009, at 1:38 PM, Joshua Zeidner wrote: >> >>> do you recommend any Ubuntu AMIs? >>> >>> -jmz >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Austin Godber >>> wrote: >>>> Yes, quite a bit. >>>> >>>> Austin >>>> >>>> On Feb 11, 2009, at 1:20 PM, Joshua Zeidner wrote: >>>> >>>>> hello, >>>>> >>>>> anyone using EC2 on a regular basis here? >>>>> >>>>> -jmz >>>>> --- >>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> ----------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- powerofpri...@gmail.com Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Epic Epoch Time Party Time
Apparently even Nairobi, Kenya is planning to party like it's 1234567890 :-) http://www.1234567890day.com/ ymmv, C.G. On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Tameek Henderson wrote: > Tameek <--- is sitting at his desk calculating Unix TAI to UTC to Unix times > :-p > > > > > Tameek Henderson > 646.427.3205 > http://www.linkedin.com/pub/5/116/522 > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > -Original Message- > From: Tuna > > Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:52:34 > To: Main PLUG discussion list > Subject: Re: Epic Epoch Time Party Time > > > Excerpts from phrkonaleash's message of Wed Feb 11 08:45:19 -0700 2009: >> Hi, >> >> Where would it be held? >> >> Somewhere between west and east side so that more people can come? >> >> I sadly won't be able to make it in all likelihood. if it was at, like, >> 7.31, perhaps but probably no 4.31 :( >> >> ~Ryan >> > > I guess it would be held at one of the regular meeting locations? > > I imagine that 4.31 will be inconvenient for a lot of people :< > > New idea: let's invent a holiday out of this, get it approved by > congress within the next couple days, and everyone gets work/school off! > > -- > Andrew "Tuna" Harris > Hacker, Caffeine-Addict > http://supertunaman.com > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- powerofpri...@gmail.com Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: OS X Disk Utility vs Linux
The trick is that PCs (for the most part) run BIOS, new Macs run EFI. It's a completely different interface to HW. I'm not sure if there's any duct tape that can help you get back at your data (sounds like you've rebuild the partition tables already anyhow) but here are a few references to EFI and Macs that might be of interest: http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/EFI http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/Home/7CC25766-EF64-4D85-AD37-BCC39FBD2A4F.html http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1569 ymmv, C.G> On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Kurt Granroth < kurt+plug-disc...@granroth.com > wrote: > Say you are experimenting with dual-booting OS X (hackintosh) on your > existing Linux machine. A word of advice: do NOT let Disk Utility touch > your existing Linux drive in any way. At all! Not even to reformat one > innocent little unused partition! > > If you do, then when you reboot, the BIOS won't recognize your partition > map at all and even grub won't work. Reinstalling grub isn't enough, > either... you'll need to use fdisk to rewrite your partition table. > > Now back to your regularly scheduled programming... ;-) > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- powerofpri...@gmail.com Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: women in Free Software
Though not directly F/OSS related and likely for a more professional crowd, my wife enjoys Women in Technology International (WITI) and the IEEE Women in Engineering (IEE WIE) groups:http://www.witi.com/ http://www.ieee.org/portal/pages/committee/women/ IEEE has national mentoring programs that might be of interest to budding engineers and techies. This clip of "Nerd Girls" just came through my IEEE.tv email: http://www.ieee.org/portal/site/ieeetv/menuitem.6ce799f946c20d660374ca695bac26c8/index.jsp?&pName=ieee.tv.viewer&path=membport/ieee_tv&file=SPC_N_Girls.xml&vid=96276&play=true;jsessionid=tGJtJwyRTxD74Gb6hRRM4spQXvTjPj2vXph5DnLhwYT2cyMGnpWT!-437537516!-618147781 ymmv, C.G. On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 3:52 AM, der.hans wrote: > moin moin, > > there's a small seminar for teenage ( pre-teen? ) girls Friday morning. > One of the goals is to show them opportunities for women in IT. > > I have the opportunity to insert some information about opportunities and > resources for girls in Free Software. > > I know about LinuxChix and some other resources. I have no idea if any of > them are appropriate for teenage girls. I also don't know if they're good > for people new to tech and Free Software. > > Any suggestions for resources I should push for inclusion? > > ciao, > > der.hans > -- > # http://www.LuftHans.com/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ > # "I never let schooling get in the way of my education." -- Mark Twain > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- powerofpri...@gmail.com Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: women in Free Software
mation Network (RIN) For Women and Girls in Illinois > > http://www.uic.edu/orgs/rin > > > > Role Model Project for Girls > > http://www.womenswork.org/girls/compsci > > > > TAP Junior > > http://women.cs.cmu.edu/ada/Resources/TAPJunior/ > > > > Women of NASA > > http://quest.arc.nasa.gov/women/intro.html > > > > > > > > On 4/23/09, der.hans wrote: > >> moin moin, > >> > >> there's a small seminar for teenage ( pre-teen? ) girls Friday morning. > >> One of the goals is to show them opportunities for women in IT. > >> > >> I have the opportunity to insert some information about opportunities > and > >> resources for girls in Free Software. > >> > >> I know about LinuxChix and some other resources. I have no idea if any > of > >> them are appropriate for teenage girls. I also don't know if they're > good > >> for people new to tech and Free Software. > >> > >> Any suggestions for resources I should push for inclusion? > >> > >> ciao, > >> > >> der.hans > >> -- > >> # http://www.LuftHans.com/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ > >> # "I never let schooling get in the way of my education." -- Mark Twain > >> --- > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >> > > > > > > -- > > www.obnosis.com (503)754-4452 > > "Contradictions do not exist." A. Rand > > > > > -- > www.obnosis.com (503)754-4452 > "Contradictions do not exist." A. Rand > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- powerofpri...@gmail.com Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: power outage
Speaking of rebooting embedded Linux systems, last fall I was returning from a vacation and while passengers were boarding the plane the entertainment systems on the back of the seats were rebooted. During POST one could see that they were running Linux :-). I took a few photos of the reboot and put them on Flickr under Creative Commons licensing if anyone wants to reuse: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cmgomes/sets/72157611847179809/ The entertainment systems had a ton of features and are similar to the systems found on Jet Blue (including timeshifted cable/satellite programs) and had some nice features like free recently released movies (I saw Dark Knight and Hancock that night), music player w/ user managed playlists, and active GPS maps. The kicker for me was a live camera on the nose of the plane showing the action from two viewpoints (straight forward and towards the ground) which was very nice for landing and takeoffs. The camera was disabled for a short time around touch down and lift-off times but you got to see the approaches and taxi. thanks, C.G. On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Eric Cope wrote: > Most of the video poker machines at the bar are Linux based. I've seen > several reboot, all on linux. > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Joe wrote: > >> Blackbox isn't a distro, it's a window manager. Still, sounds pretty >> awesome, in an extremely geeky sort of way (just the way I like it). >> Only OS screens I've even seen in casinos before was in Vegas on some >> random terminals and such and it was all windoze :( >> >> -Joe >> >> mike havens wrote: >> > I was in a casino down here in florida and there happened to be a >> problem >> > with the power. All of the machines shut off and then rebooted. First >> they >> > posted and then the Phoenix logo appeared (the computer thingy not >> the >> > cities logo). Then, to my wonder, Lilo started and after the boot >> process I >> > found out what their distro was; it was Blackbox. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > --- >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > ------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- powerofpri...@gmail.com Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Updating Ubuntu
I also hit the ubuntu.com listed torrent and the download happened overnight with a pretty decent start (not sure how long but it was done when I woke up) ymmv, C.G. On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Dazed_75 wrote: > On the ubuntu.com home page, if you click the download button for the > desktop or server you are taken to a page such as > http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download to select a location which has a > "Begin Download" button. Most people don't look to the right side which has > a section for "Other Options" one of which is a link for torrents. I used > that on release day and got 2 .iso's in about 40 minutes. > > On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 1:05 AM, der.hans wrote: > >> Am 24. Apr, 2009 schwätzte Chris Gehlker so: >> >> It seems to take forever. It is much quicker just to download the .iso >>> and install from scratch. >>> >> >> Yeah, the mirrors are swamped the week after a release. >> >> Have you tried apt-torrent or apt-p2p? >> >> http://www.camrdale.org/apt-p2p/ >> >> http://debtorrent.alioth.debian.org/ >> >> I haven't yet tried either, but plan to set up at least one of them for a >> test spin. >> >> I've been wanting packages via a torrent-like setup for a long time, but >> hadn't noticed those packages. >> >> ciao, >> >> der.hans >> -- >> # http://www.LuftHans.com/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ >> # Very frankly, I am opposed to people being programmed by others. >> #-- Fred Rogers, aka Mr. Rogers (1928-2003) >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > > -- > Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- powerofpri...@gmail.com Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: 9.04 netbook remix ?
I've got an eeepc 1000H running Ubuntu (Intrepid Ibex) w/ the eeebuntu kernel for better wireless support. Folks running ubuntu on eeepcs should look to the eebuntu kernel packaged fixes. With the cooperation of Ubuntu and Moblin, future releases of Ubuntu should have better support for eeepcs (and other Intel Atom systems) directly.http://moblin.org/ I'm also playing w/ Ubuntu 9.04 Remix for my dad. I'll likely get a new eeepc 1000HE and let him have my 1000H after I load ubuntu 9.04 remix on it for him. I'm testing out ubuntu remix within virtualbox 2.20 and think he'll enjoy the interface (and I'll enjoy the lack of needing to decrap his windows box every time I come to visit :-). http://platonic.techfiz.info/2009/04/26/ubuntu-netbook-on-virtualbox/ http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-904jaunty-and-virtualbox-video-driver-for-xguest-additions.html full disclosure: I work for Intel though not in anything tied to Moblin. On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 12:30 AM, James Mcphee wrote: > There's a distro based on ubuntu specifically for the eeepc. > http://eeebuntu.org > > They're still working on beating the 9.04 bugs out (which they will release > as eeebuntu 3.0). The current eeebuntu 2.0 is pretty solid, however. > > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:41 PM, JD Austin wrote: > >> I tried ubuntu on the eee 701 and didn't like it as much as Mandrake >> 2008/2009. >> -- >> JD Austin >> Twin Geckos Technology Services LLC >> j...@twingeckos.com >> 480.288.8195x201 >> http://www.twingeckos.com >> >> >> Winston >> Churchill<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/w/winston_churchill.html> >> - "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with >> the average voter." >> >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Sean Roe wrote: >> >>> what netbook do you have? I have an Eee PC 900 and there are >>> supposedly still some issues on it. >>> >>> Sean >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Stephen wrote: >>> > Anyone else try the netbook remix yet? >>> > >>> > >>> > So far I am liking it >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Sent from my mobile device >>> > >>> > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >>> > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >>> > >>> > Stephen >>> > --- >>> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> > >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > > -- > James McPhee > jmc...@gmail.com > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- powerofpri...@gmail.com Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: 9.04 netbook remix ?
Here's a detailed writeup on Ubuntu 9.04 Remix: http://www.tuxradar.com/content/ubuntu-netbook-remix-904-hands So far, I think it's a great distro to help tip folks over (and manufacturers over) to OSS. My less tech savy family is going to be hearing about this distro over the coming months and some will likely be getting some hands-on time with it. ymmv, C.G. -- powerofpri...@gmail.com Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: deceased erstwhile microwave oven
Hi Mike, Have you thought of donating it to Goodwill or another charity? If it somewhat works they may be able to do something w/ it (if nothing else they can tinker w/ the innards as part of training). Too bad we don't have a local Maker Faire. That kind of partially working gear would be welcome there too. http://www.makerfaire.com/ ymmv, C.G. On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Mike Schwartz wrote: > When our microwave oven started making a funny noise, my wife's decision > was to just to out and buy a new one > (the price was reasonable; and the new one works OK). > > Alternatives? anyone? > Does anyone want this ["pre-owned"] microwave oven ? > I hesitate to guess whether or not it could be repaired. > Some of the stuff it is "made of", might be recyclable > or usable for something. > I would be a little hesitant to see it going in to a landfill, > (well, not literally "see", but "cause" it, and know about it) > but, I only have a limited amount of effort earmarked to > explore alternatives. > > So, if you have any ideas, please respond within > the next 3 days. > > THANK YOU, > -- > Mike Schwartz > Glendale AZ > schwa...@acm.org > -- powerofpri...@gmail.com Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
OT : What's a "geek"?
The age old question never ends... RMS stereotype vs "social media" stereotype: http://blog.seanbonner.com/2009/05/13/geeks/ PC vs Mac: http://twitter.com/Zadi/statuses/1788803337 :-) ymmv, C.G. -- powerofpri...@gmail.com Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ http://claimid.com/cmgomes --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT : What's a "geek"?
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > Im not sure I get this one, so this socially well adjusted and kinda > attractive person got famous by using the thing made by the geek? The meme is playing out in parts of social computing space over the last couple days and I figured the RMS reference might resonate here :-). Alot more context on the thread can be found here: http://www.marco.org/106882951 ... and the above is a direct response to this campaign: http://geekadvancement.com/ > perhaps this stands as a reason open source doesn't work, because RMS > should be charging the socially well adjusted and kinda attractive > person big bucks to use the software they don't have time to make > (because they have a 'social life' aka does things that are fun). > then the socially well adjusted and kinda attractive person will marry > him and clean him out in a divorce. :) > -jmz The block directly above reminded me of part of the storyline in the "Revolution OS" documentary -- I believe it was intended as a documentary though it seemed to downplay, if not ridicule, an important cornerstone of the movement. In other words, I think (IMHO) that RMS got screwed in the version of the history behind FSF and OSS similar to what's played out in jmz's block above... Decent film overall for the behind the scenes stories from the people involved but I didn't appreciate the digs on RMS and his philosophy and practice. http://www.revolution-os.com/ ymmv, C.G. > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Carlos Macedo Gomes > wrote: > > > > The age old question never ends... > > RMS stereotype vs "social media" stereotype: > > http://blog.seanbonner.com/2009/05/13/geeks/ > > PC vs Mac: > > http://twitter.com/Zadi/statuses/1788803337 > > :-) > > ymmv, > > C.G. -- powerofpri...@gmail.com Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ http://claimid.com/cmgomes --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Truly Free phones?
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 11:13 AM, der.hans wrote: > Am 14. Mai, 2009 schwätzte Ryan Rix so: >> Why hasn't the FSF done anything about this as much as cell phones are a >> part of this culture? > The FSF does a lot. If you want it to do more get directly involved and > make donations :). Make donations to EFF as well :). Yay FSF and EFF :-). Speaking of getting involved... Just came across this Phoenix event happening this weekend vectored from my twitter river of news (via @dneighbors & @jmoriarty): http://mobifestival.com/ Not exclusively OSS or FSF focused but they will be using barcamp format and Android is on the agenda. :-) I'll be in the market for a new phone this summer too and may drop by to see what folks are doing w/ these things... ymmv, C.G. -- powerofpri...@gmail.com Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ http://claimid.com/cmgomes --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT - funny picture (work safe)
:-). Top post cuz it's TGIF... Philip K. Dick would be even an more disturbed, creative genius were he alive in these times. Not only would he have to deal w/ his (rumored to be abuse drug induced) meatspace neurosis but now he would also have to deal w/ matrixspace/virtualspace mashups of reality with online artifacts. Neo: Did that cat moving in the corner just "skip" and "repeat" itself??? :-> What if instead of "skip"ing and "repeat"ing the cat played Neo off on a keyboard? http://playhimoffkeyboardcat.com/post/106704604/its-chinatown-via-jackszwergold ymmv, C.G. On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Stephen wrote: > http://www.eatliver.com/img/2009/4315.jpg > > -- > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. > > Stephen > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- powerofpri...@gmail.com Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ http://claimid.com/cmgomes --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Most fun in Arizona?
I'm always surprised that Frank Lloyd Wright's Taliesin West never makes it on a list of things to see in the Phoenix area. IMHO, It's an amazing site to examine FLW's work which has influenced architecture around the globe. http://www.franklloydwright.org/t_west.html I've not been to Falling Water's in PA but plan to do so some day: http://www.fallingwater.org/ ymmv, C.G. -- powerofpri...@gmail.com Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ http://claimid.com/cmgomes --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: [Computerworld:] "Cisco takes aim at WiMax"
Full disclosure: I work for Intel but not in our Wireless Group. On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Joseph Sinclair wrote: > There are some substantial differences between WiMax and WiFi. Agreed. WiFi is 802.11 (b,a,g,n) certified by the WiFi Alliance ( http://www.wi-fi.org/ ) WiMAX is 802.16 (e or d) certified by WiMAX Forum ( http://www.wimaxforum.org/ ) But there are also some basic similarities. Both are data communications standards that directly support IPv4 and IPv6. Both bring native IPv4/IPV6 to consumers via radio frequency (i.e., RF, radio, wireless). Only WiMAX does direct IPv4/IPv6 across large distances (i.e. WANs) using RF. LTE brings cellular RF over large distances closer to IPv4/IPv6 but it's still not a pure data communications standard since it has some genetic inheritance of legacy cellular designs and specifications. WiMAX and current celluar services are complementary. WiMAX and LTE are not so complementary due to basic overlaps in tech and in competing business. My elevator pitch would be: Both LTE and WiMAX bring data to RF WANs but LTE is born of cellular (with inheritance) and WiMAX is born of Ethernet/IPv4/IPV6 (with inheritance). The Muni WiFi nets are about providing 802.11 throughout an area. > Considering the limited range of the 2.4GHz band used, it's fairly difficult > and there tend to be a lot of small dead zones. Not to mention that 802.11 doesn't include roaming, meshing, robust security (e.g., authentication, identification, confidentiality) that are needed for continuous & contiguous wide area coverage and secure access. http://www.wimaxmaps.org/ WiMax is a wide-area technology in a completely different (and fully > licensed) band. WiMax placements cannot be done by consumers because you > have to pay a lot of money for the location-specific license and meet FCC > siting requirements. ClearWire holds most (about $3 billion worth > transferred from Sprint) of the WiMax licenses in the US. Right now the carriers own the transport part of the WiMAX equation. That doesn't rule out the ability of other businesses from providing the backend now offered (or planned) by carriers. Small groups might be able to create smaller WiMAX (or 802.16) clouds that may or may not mesh w/ the carriers. Wireless Phoenix (http://www.wireless-phoenix.com/) <http://www.wireless-phoenix.com/>already offers private label WiMAX in Phoenix and other groups should be able to come up w/ various business models leveraging the new technology including free (as in speech and as in beer). That's assuming WiMAX succeeds as a technology... :-) Some folks are already looking into open sourcing the client side of the technology: http://www.linuxwimax.org/Home http://www.openclovis.org/project-poll/project-idea-building-wimax-wireless-broadband-802-16e-product-on-top-of-atca-platform http://www.embeddedrelated.com/usenet/embedded/show/79241-1.php http://www.electronicsweekly.com/blogs/open-source-linux/2009/02/linux-and-wimax-become-friends---finally.html WiMax is more of a competitor to 3G cellular. Some have put it forward as > the 4G cellular standard, but it's not clear what will happen there, since > Sprint and Intel prefer WiMax, but NGMN chose LTE, and many carriers don't > care which is used, as long as everyone uses the same radio standard. I don't see WiMAX directly competing w/ 3G. WiMAX and current 3G celluar services are complementary (data vs cellular). WiMAX and LTE are not so complementary due to tech overlaps (small items) and business overlaps (large items). ymmv, C.G. -- powerofpri...@gmail.com Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ http://claimid.com/cmgomes --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Netbook for Regular Person
My Eee PC 1000HE arrives tomorrow. I already have a 1000HA and plan to install Ubuntu Remix on it and give it to my dad. http://www.canonical.com/projects/ubuntu/unr The 1000HE will have multiboot love w/ Ubuntu being one of them. I'm very happy w the Asus Eee PCs... ymmv, C.G. On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Eric Cope wrote: > Hello all, > I have a friend who's mom wants a netbook, probably because its small and > cute. He asked my recommendation, but I have no experience. Does anyone on > the list have experience supporting people who know next to nothing using a > netbook, preferably Linux version? > Thanks, > Eric > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- powerofpri...@gmail.com Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ http://claimid.com/cmgomes --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Sudo explained for dummies
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Stephen wrote: > [...@myhost ~]$ make_me_a_sandwich > What? Make it yourself > [...@myhost ~]$ sudo_make_me_a_sandwich > ok :-) Also here: http://xkcd.com/149/ <http://xkcd.com/149/>ymmv, C.G. -- powerofpri...@gmail.com Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ http://claimid.com/cmgomes --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Safari Books
Seems you're getting a bunch of positive responses on Safari and I'm be adding my voice to that positive chorus. I have access to the full Safari at work and a also limited version via my ACM (or maybe IEEE) membership and I like the service. I'm pretty sure that if it didn't come to me as a work/member benefit I would still pay for the service directly. I still like physical books for obvious reasons but got used to using electronic books during my recent time in graduate school. The keyword search functions across entire libraries are unbeatable especially for somewhat esoteric topics. It's also nice when colleagues also use the service since you can hyperlink or share bookmarks to help explain your position or question in more detail. I also have Books24x7 (again via work and ACM/IEEE membership) and recommend that system for a broader base of books from various publishers. Books24x7 has books from various publishers covering different domains: science/engineering, technology (software/hardware & high-tech/low-tech), business, professional development, etc). For a book junkie, the regular emails w/ summary of new books and ability to (virtually) add an almost endless stream of interesting books to your (virtual) bookshelf is very gratifying :-). ymmv, C.G. On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Mike Hoy wrote: > Have any of you ever signed up for Safari Books Online? They have a few > titles I'd like to read and the price isn't bad for the Safari Bookshelf > ($22.99). Just looking for any feedback negative or positive before I sign > up. For example one book: Programming Python is way more in paper copy than > the monthly fee on Safari. So that's a win win right there. But I was also > wondering about things like bookmarks, so you can pick up where you left off > from the day before. > > -- > Mike Hoy > -- powerofpri...@gmail.com Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ http://claimid.com/cmgomes --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: C programmers....
There may be some guides and/or OSS to Wii remote interfaces here: http://johnnylee.net/projects/wii/ <http://johnnylee.net/projects/wii/>When I hear folks talking about this kinda stuff, makes me think that Phoenix needs a MakerFaire to show off all our DYI stuff :-). http://www.makerfaire.com/ <http://www.makerfaire.com/>http://makezine.com/about/ ymmv, C.G. On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 9:26 AM, James Finstrom < jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com> wrote: > Greetings all, > > I am writing app that allows me to control my canon SLR with my wiimote. I > am trying to figure out how to call a function in main that generats a > handle then returns the handle to main > > > Concept: > > connect(){ connect to wiimote and return handle foo} > > main(){ call connect(), get handle, perform actions on that handle} > > > James Finstrom > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- powerofpri...@gmail.com Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ http://claimid.com/cmgomes --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: SPAM on PLUGSITE
Unfortunately, attacks against CAPTCHAs aren't limited to sw bots: http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/mimssbits/25594/ "How Spammers Use Low-cost Labor to Solve CAPTCHAS Workers in Russia, Southeast Asia, and China are paid a pittance to solve millions of CAPTCHAS. CHRISTOPHER MIMS 08/11/2010" ymmv, C.G. On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > > On most of my production Drupal sites, I CANNOT even enable comments. It's a sad day when one cannot have a login based access that is not hit by SPAM bots? > -- Carlos Macedo Gomes http://claimid.com/cmgomes --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: CPIP shown to beat ADSL
Now that is indeed pi[ge]oneering work... :-D C.G. On 6/6/07, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: An improved version of CPIP (rfc 1149) has been shown to be faster than ADSL. http://www.notes.co.il/benbasat/5240.asp -- "That income tax you know it's nothing more than legal robbery" Sidney "Pa" Larkin The magic HD-DVD number is: 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: [ Re: UNIX- Grad-daddy of all modern operating systems?]
t;> >> > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Laws on Programming (Was: Re: [ Re: UNIX- Grad-daddy of all modern operating systems?])
On 7/2/07, Alan Dayley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Carlos Macedo Gomes wrote: > > I like these laws even better: > > George's Laws on Programming > > 1. There is no such thing as a programming bug. A bug was the moth that > > Grace Hopper pulled out of her vacuum tube computer. What programmers > > like to call bugs are defects - defects in workmanship - defects in > > quality. > > A rose by any other name... > Why do you feel it is important that defects are not called bugs? Good questions, Alan. I can definitely see your points and have several close friends that are very much aligned with what I perceived to be your point of view. My point of view is somewhat different. I'm a security engineer by training and trade so I've worked closely w/ software engineers, SW architects, and project managers to delivery scary^H^H^H^Hecurity products as close to schedule and budget as feasible. In my experience, defects detection and tracking (as part of Quality Analysis) are part of the regime of software engineering, security engineering, project management, and project portfolio management. Bugs are also defects but generally denote a "surrender" mentality. When engineers talk about defects it's generally w/ a look to quantify, contain, minimize, and/or eliminate/mitigate. Here's a quote w/in a quote from Ross Anderson's _Security Engineering_ textbook that I think further illustrates my point.: 'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.' 'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.' 'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master—that's all.' It is important for the security engineer to develop sensitivity about the different nuances of meaning that common words acquire in different applications, and to be able to formalize what the security policy and target actually are. That may sometimes be inconvenient for clients who wish to get away with something, but, in general, robust security design requires that the protection goals are made explicit. http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/Papers/SE-01.pdf> > > 2. There are two types of defects: Design and Implementation. > > a. Design defects are a direct reflection on the Software Architect's > > b. Implemetation defects are a direct reflection on the developer's > > I'd add: > c. "Features" or design requirements that are not reasonable to > implement and yet are demanded by people in charge. I include in this > unrealistic deadlines, limited time budget for testing or other work and > other decisions made by those not doing the work. Not to split hairs, but your "c." above sounds more like a Project Management problem (i.e., scope/quality, schedule, and/or cost) to me. As software engineers and project managers (and program managers) become more capable, finger pointing to SW folks for issues related to code/products with defects decreases (if not diminishes). One of the main goals of Project Management (and Portfolio Management) is to reduce (not eliminate) the likelyhood that a SW project will not meet expectations and to allow customers/management accept the risks of accepting the project/assignment. The practice of detected and resolving defects generally does not include blaming individuals (not sure if finding "bugs" does either). Root-cause analysis for serverly failed projects might lead to issues w/ staffing appropriate resources but that again is a PM problem (aka tracked risk of lack of adequate resources). > > 3. When software defects kill people, the Software Engineering industry > > will have no choice but to become a credible engineering discipline like > > mechanical engineering, electrical engineering, and architecture with > > the accompanying reviews and professional certifications. > > I don't believe this will ever happen, in general. Let me explain. [redacted examples of non-certified and certified software folks] I agree w/ your examples. > B. Software is a commodity. MS has used it's market dominance to > maintain it's high prices but the reality is that every day software is > more and more of a commodity. Except for specific niche products, it is > no longer a viable business model to use "traditional" high discipline > practices to create software. It would cost far too much for the market > value. FS/OSS is embracing this reality and continues to drive general > market pricing downward. Even with out FS/OSS, this trend would still > occur because the production cost of software, once written, is almost > nothing. I think you don't give enough
[OT] - Fwd: Unix Security Engineer Position Available (Wells Fargo)
IMHO, Wells Fargo is a good company to work for in the valley especially from an InfoSec perspective. I'm happy where I am so figured I'd pass this along. ymmv, C.G. -- Forwarded message -- From: Emily Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Aug 30, 2007 9:48 AM Subject: Unix Security Engineer Position Available Hi Carlos, I came across your resume on Monster and would like to speak with you to discuss a position with you. I have a great opportunity with Wells Fargo which I think your background and skills would be a great match. Please contact me at your earliest convenience and review the job description below. I look forward to your thoughts. Security Engineer Participates in the research, analysis, design, testing and implementation of complex computer network security/protection technologies for company information and network systems/applications. Assists customers in identifying security solutions for the company's networks and virtual private networks, application systems, key public infrastructures, authentication and directory services to ensure the security of the network and confidential data. Performs periodic vulnerability scans of networks to identify security vulnerabilities and provides remediation alternatives and conducts security risk assessments to ensure compliance with corporate security policies and adherence to best practices. Performs roundthe- clock intrusion detection monitoring of company networks and systems. Participates in computer security incident response activities and the technical investigations of securityrelated incidents. Participates in the evaluation of vendor proposals, new and existing security designs, and emerging security technologies and systems. May provide technical guidance to less experienced staff. Minimum Experience: 4 yr degree plus 10-12 yrs exp Required skills: - Unix Systems Admin level experience on AIX, HPUX, Solaris and RedHat Linux - experience with SSH on Unix - experience with installing/configuring/supporting SFTP/SCP and/or FTPS - firm understanding of Unix system security concepts - strong Unix shell scripting capability - willingness to do both 3rd level technical support and software testing - strong understanding of digital certificates and ability to troubleshoot SSL and certificate issues Platform and Skill Set Expertise: Systems Administration : UNIX If you are interested in this position, please respond with the following information: a) Your current Word formatted resume-- we never present without permission b) Your hourly rate/ Annual Salary -- note if W2 or INC (we require proof of Incorporation, Federal Tax ID and General Liability Insurance -- up to $1million) c) Availability to start (i.e. 2 weeks notice, immediately, etc) d) Three professional references from the last two years e) Work Status: i.e. Citizen, Green Card, or visa holder, H1B Thanks! Emily Emily Sanchez Technical Resource Manager Systems Integration Solutions, Inc. A Diversity Preferred Vendor Office (480) 355-4247 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.sisinc.com We are offering a referral fee of up to $500 to any person who refers a Consultant that we place on contract for a minimum of three months! --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Thanks for the Memories Sys Admin Magazine...
Might be old news to some people but this just now crossed my field of vision: http://taosecurity.blogspot.com/2007/07/thanks-for-memories-sys-admin-magazine.html As noted in one of the comments, the death of another great Unix related magazine. ymmv, C.G. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Need to outsource programming or hire full-time
It's not trivial to become an expert witness since it generally means you've got a long, established history in the profession including advanced degrees, publishing in journals, and experience as a witness in court (catch-22 in many cases). You can make very good money as an expert witness but it depends on who has the larger budget (usually the defense) and the nature of the case. I would wager that the average expert witness can probably bill as an indepent consultant at higher rates than he/she can get as an expert witness in court. Expert witnesses are generally challended during voir dire: http://www.forensicmag.com/articles.asp?pid=132 The judge has the final say on who qualifies as expert witness so generally the larger the court the harder it is to be accepted (or alternately the easier to be challenged). Folks may remember in "My Cousin Vinny" when Mona Lisa Vito (played by Marissa Tomeii) was voir dire'd by the prosecution prior to being allowed as an expert witness. ymmv, C.G.. CISSP, CISM, GCFA On 9/11/07, Technomage-hawke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 10 September 2007 23:11, keith smith wrote: > > under what circumstances would a programmer be needed as a witness? > > > > I don't know, I will have to ask my friend in Kansas (he's not only a > programmer, but also a computer forensics analyst). > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Server authentication
I so enjoy a happy ending early on Friday morning :-) Especially one w/ FOSS goodness. /me has weird visions of new "Sshreck" (sic) animated cartoon about the security fantasy land of OpenSSH... :-P The word charm might have kicked me off... ymmv, C.G. On 10/12/07, Jorge Delacruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I tried the OpenSSH DenyGroup directive - worked like > a charm!!! > > Jorge Delacruz > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Walmart PC's are gone
It's funny how memes crosspollinate: The Death of Email: http://slate.com/id/2177969/pagenum/all/#page_start SMTP is dead!! Long Live SMTP!!! Linux is dead!!! Long Live Linux Windows is dead!!! EOM :-) As the world becomes more distributed and virtual good communication skills (writing and speaking) will not decrease in importance. Maybe I'm old school but I suspect the jargon of today will be the Valley Speak of tomorrow. One can hope :-) ymmv, C.G. On 11/15/07, Dan Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Formal writing hasn't fallen out of favor, it's just not used via > email and texting. > Lazy people, nor people figuring out the 3133t speak exists, hardly > consist of language evolution. > Let's not put serious credibility behind something that's done for fun > and humor. > As far as college students using SMS-speak on class papers.. well... > if they make it through the class then that's proof the system needs > to be revamped. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: GOOG android on NPR now
Dang it. I'm a Science Friday junkie but missed today's broadcast. I'll have to DL the recorded version for playback. Here's more news on Google, Android OS, and their plans for Google owned radio spectrum (WiFi and WiMAX capable 700Mhz and possibly others) : http://online.wsj.com/article_print/SB119517445580795065.html The recent thread on definitions of PCs (looking from PCs to phones/PDAs) should also consider looking from phones/PDAs to PCs. UMD/MID (Ultra Mobile Devices / Mobile Internet Devices) will become more and more common in the coming years. Intel is investing big in this area which should translate to open IA interfaces for these devices. If WiMAX comes about properly we'll have mobile/nomadic broadband on small form factor Internet capable devices. And the peanut gallery quesitons: 1) But will it run Linux?, 2) But will it room Quake?, 3) but will it run Xxxx?. The answer should be yes given the direction that Google, Intel and WiMAX forum are taking these types of devices. WiMAX should be good for UMD/MIDs since it has the potential to liberate users from a fixed phone number (i.e., moves to a mobile/nomadic IP address - possibly even IPv6 addy). And WiMAX forum has a stated goal of complementing existing cellular service by allowing for open application development on their architecture. Wow.. tangent-o-rama. Coffee kicked in. As you were... ymmv, C.G. On 11/16/07, der.hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > moin moin, > www.KJZZ.org > 91.5 > Talk of the Nation Science Friday is covering Android. > ciao, > der.hans -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Apple's time has come?
It's not OS X (or Linux) but... The first PC virus' were on the Apple II platform back in 1981/82: http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0872842.html http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/07/16/1330207 I graduate (BS in CompEngr) from Texas A&M in '96 so I became familiar w/ this bit of history way back when during my studnet and FidoNet SysOp days/daze. If you wanna see something real "interesting" check this out: - Growth of Malware http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2008/01/growth-of-malware.html - 2007: The year of the vulnerabilities? http://www.cerias.purdue.edu/weblogs/pmeunier/general/post-72/ - the CVE 10K problem http://cve.mitre.org/data/board/archives/2007-01/msg0.html ymmv, C.G. On 1/28/08, Kristian Erik Hermansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Apple has been a target for a long time dude... > http://milw0rm.com/platforms/osX > -- > Kristian Erik Hermansen > "Know something about everything and everything about something." > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: For those who cannot take a lunch break
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Matt Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After a long battle with technology, Jared Anderson wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Tuna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > They would call it iHungryNow -- and food could only be put on it via > > iTunes. > > Or it might look something like: > http://crow202.dyndns.org:8080/~mhgraham/iHunger.jpg Ooohhh man. I was playing Galaga & Mrs. Pacman at Dave & Buster's in Tempe and now Sinister :-). Man I recked myself on that game many a weekend and afternoon... ymmv, C.G. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: door person for Apr east side mtg
It would be my first physical meeting but I'm willing to help out. What's the next step (beyond being somewhere near the door on 4/10 between 6-6:30pm)? Should I contact someone offlist to coordinate? Looking forward to meeting other PLUs. thanks, C.G. On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Shawn Badger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can help out. > > On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 1:16 AM, der.hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > moin moin, > > > > we need someone to watch for new people at Thursday's meeting. > > > > Ideally it would be someone who often shows up and recognizes many of our > > regulars. OTOH, this could be a good opportunity to meet everyone who > > shows up :). > > > > My class will be meeting early, so they should already be handled. I will > > be occupied with the class, so I can't handle this this month. > > > > Who wants to volunteer? More than one person can. > > > > ciao, > > > > der.hans > > -- > > # https://www.LuftHans.com/https://LOPSA.org/ > > # "It's not that I'm so smart, it's just that I stay with problems > longer." > > # -- Albert Einstein > > --- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
oCERT.org - Open Source CERT
Hi, Haven't seen this come through the list yet and seems to fit some of the security discussions at last week's East Side mtg: "Security Pros Launch Open-Source CERT" "The idea is to mimic the CERT security incident response teams around the world by offering help to both large infrastructures and smaller projects that can't afford a full-blown security team. The goal, Barisani said, is to reduce the impact of compromises on small projects with little or no infrastructure security and, more importantly, avoid the ripple effect of badly communicated or poorly handled compromises. ... oCERT has already put together a high-profile team that includes Tavis Ormandy and Will Drewry from the Google Security Team; Barisani and Rob Holland from Inverse Path and Marcel Holtmann from Intel. Solar Designer from Openwall and Dragos Ruiu from the SecWest security conferences form part of the organization's advisory board." Full text here: http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Security-Pros-Launch-Open-Source-CERT/ ymmv, C.G. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Cisco serving apps using module running Cisco Hardened Linux...
This sounds interesting: http:/www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3740106/Cisco+Turns+Routers+Into+Linux+Application+Servers.htm http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps9701/index.html Cisco will be supporting apps on their Integrated Service Routers (ISRs) and some other devices (WAAS) via modules running embedded Linux (i.e., Cisco Hardened Linux). Developers will be able to use a Cisco SDK for development of open/closed source apps. These apps will have the opportunity to be "certified by Cisco." I wonder if this is just a generalized version of their IDS router module which also has a Linux core. http://seclists.org/focus-ids/2004/Apr/0019.html And for the /. crowd, ... "But will it run Quake?" :-P ymmv, C.G. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: May es door person
Ya. It was good to meet a couple folks (and I got a t-shirt) :-). I'm willing to help out again if needed. thanks, C.G. On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 10:36 AM, der.hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > moin moin, > > thanks to Carlos and Shawn for handling the door for us at last month's > meeting! > > Who would like to handle it for the east side meeting this month? > > We'll also take volunteers for the west side meeting. > > The main purpose is to catch people who are new and introduce them to > someone rather than just leaving them off on their own. > > It was Carlos' first meeting, hopefully he found it was a good way to > meet people. > > ciao, > > der.hans > -- > # https://www.LuftHans.com/https://LOPSA.org/ > # "I never let schooling get in the way of my education." -- Mark Twain > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
OpenSSH vulnerability (Ubuntu and Debian hit)
Apologies if this has already vectored through your radar. A problem has surfaced with Debian and Ubuntu related to the PRN in OpenSSL (and therefore the keys in OpenSSH, OpenSSL, SSL, etc). Scope is limited to Debian and Ubuntu systems but the problem appears to have been around for a couple years. Ubuntu advisory is here: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-612-1 Here's a (rantish) writeup on the *raison d'etre*: http://www.links.org/?p=327 Check your primes... ymmv, C.G. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: state $$ to proprietary software
Hi Hans, First, this is great. I need to add it to my infosec awareness pool... :-). On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 12:04 PM, der.hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > # Passwords are like underwear. You don't share them, you don't hang them on > # your monitor, or under your keyboard, you don't email them, or put them on > # a web site, and you must change them very often. -- Unknown And to your request.. I have worked in a previous life (2004) w/ the lady who's now the CIO for the AZ Dept of Revenue. If Shawn's links don't get you there, let me know offlist what you still need and I'll see what can be done. thanks, C.G. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT Mobilization Orders
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Kevin Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well as the subject says, I got called up from IRR to Active Duty. To > summarize Hi Kevin, I've not had the chance to meet you but I look forward to that day. I've got many high school buddies from Texas A&M (home of the Fightin' Texas A&M Aggies - WHOOP!!) and several of them are in and out of active duty in the middle east (mostly in these days). I do wish you luck in finding a waiver. But if that doesn't work out, I want to thank you, sincerely, for your service. I hope you have an excellent 4th of July weekend. And as others have said, feel free to ping the list or blog or anything you have time for over there to let us know how things are going. best wishes, C.G. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Linux Security Lab?
I'm interested :-). thx, C.G. On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Lisa Kachold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there any interest in a Security Lab? > > At freegeek.org, (and various open source shops), we would setup say a 6 > hour test lab to: > > 1) Test various security LiveCD's (Labrat, NST) > 2) Setup HoneyPots and IDS monitoring systems. > 3) Create attacks using other tools, like Owasp.org's well written FAQ's and > apps or testing Youtube security vid myths. > > Some of the easiest quick examples would be: > > a) nmap/nessus, and snort. > b) brute force ssh in less than a smoke break. > > "Harder" (more advanced) labs could include top down OSI demos like XSS > proxy, SQL Injection, URI and/or all manner bottom up TCP/IP spoofing, > ICMP, dhcp and DNS hacking. > > We might also setup some quick tunnels running as a completely believable > process name to show what it looks like to be pwn'd? > > Any interest? > > (503)754-4452 Blackberry || www.obnosis.com > via USB PPP EDVO/CDMA on Dell Latitude PII - Kubuntu 7.10 > > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Spy Bill Debate Comes to an End
I learned in a college PoliSci class that moving is a valid form of political participation but it should likley be done as a last resort :-) I would suggest donating to (or volunteering with) the EFF: http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2008/07/09 https://www.causes.com/fb/donations/new?cause_id=159&fp=930d7&fundraiser_id=8803368&m=9deb6 Also teaching folks about privacy, cryptography, and VoIP may be an option. There's also a Facebook connect to the EFF cause for those interested. A couple friends of mine and are on there. ymmv, C.G. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Jason Spatafore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's time to move to Canada > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Spy Bill Debate Comes to an End
:-) You guys rock. Reminds me of the early '90s and the cypherpunks list which introduced me to crypto for the masses :-). http://www.creativedestruction.com/archives/000933.html http://www.creativedestruction.com/archives/000937.html http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=cryptography%40metzdowd.com&q=fisa http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=cryptography%40metzdowd.com&q=gak http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=cryptography%40metzdowd.com&q=escrow I'm getting my pubkeys ready. There may be a market for new bumper sticker: old: Keep honking. I'm reloading new: Keep sniffing. I'm loading my key pairs. Wasn't there some talk of a PGP key signing or tutorial at an installfest some months back? I finished graduate school last month and am starting to come out of that shell. ymmv, C.G. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Joshua Zeidner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Lisa Kachold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> VOIP will not shield your privacy from interception from NSA! >> >> End to end encryption is about the best one can currently do, other than >> ceasing all actions that need to be private in any place but in person. >> >> Anything with a PSTN trunk is switched to their centers (thanks Cisco). >> Anything that traverses the internet is part of current monitoring - data >> sampling. If they want to intercept your soft phone or VOIP calls that's >> all build into the monitoring model. > > Thats true... most world internet traffic goes through the US, so if > they are snooping then they have the ability to snoop anywhere. -jmz > > >> >> >> (503)754-4452 Blackberry || www.obnosis.com >> via USB PPP EDVO/CDMA on Dell Latitude PII - Kubuntu 7.10 >> >> --- On Wed, 7/9/08, keith smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> From: keith smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: Spy Bill Debate Comes to an End >> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" >> Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 10:14 PM >> >> >> That's pretty crazy stuff!! >> >> >> >> Keith Smith >> (520) 207-9877 >> PHP Programmer >> >> >> >> --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Joshua Zeidner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> From: Joshua Zeidner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: Spy Bill Debate Comes to an End >> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" >> Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 9:03 PM >> >> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Carlos Macedo Gomes >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I learned in a college PoliSci class that moving is a valid form of >>> political participation but >> it should likley be done as a last resort >>> :-) >>> >>> I would suggest donating to (or volunteering with) the EFF: >>> >> http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2008/07/09 >>> >> https://www.causes.com/fb/donations/new?cause_id=159&fp=930d7&fundraiser_id=8803368&m=9deb6 >>> >>> Also teaching folks about privacy, cryptography, and VoIP may be an >> option. >>> >>> There's also a Facebook connect to the EFF cause for those interested. >>> A couple friends of mine and are on there. >> >> you may want to watch this video before you go any further with that: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wogtTQs8Kzw >> >> -jmz >> >> -- >> "Never take counsel of your fears." - Andrew Jackson >> >> - http://www.joshuazeidner.com/ >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail >> settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > > -- > "Never take counsel of your fears." - Andrew Jackson > > - http://www.joshuazeidner.com/ > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Marketwatch.com | IBM, Canonical/Ubuntu, Novell, Red Hat to Deliver Microsoft-Free Desktops Worldwide
I'm not sure if this is real "new" news but this type of news is generally good news for Linux/OSS: "For the first time, IBM and leading Linux distributors Canonical/Ubuntu, Novell and Red Hat will join forces globally with their hardware partners to deliver Microsoft-free personal computing choices with Lotus Notes and Lotus Symphony in the one billion-unit desktop market worldwide by 2009." Full article here: http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/story.aspx?guid={F6BECEDE-0833-4FA6-83D7-4EBA7A79337E} ymmv, C.G. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carlos Macedo Gomes _sic itur ad astra_ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss