Re: OT: How to attach an image as a link?
Joe - you want to sent HTML email - embed (not attach) the image like any website and then add the link - make sure to add some javascript just for fun too (just kidding) make sure your email works in a text only world too - many, including myself consider HTML email an abomination/security problem and routinely have email servers strip that crap off at the front door - others dump the whole email into the spam box. it would be a shame to spend all this time designing the email, just to make it undeliverable - you might consider attaching your card as a vCard, that would be more useful. On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 10:36 AM, j...@actionline.com wrote: How can I attach a business card image to an email message as a link so that a recipient can click on the image to go to the corresponding web page? Click the link below to see a screen-shot example with an attached image; but in this example, the image is (not clickable): - - - http://www.upquick.com/temp/cardlink.jpg - - - What html code would be needed to make the attachment clickable? attachments aren't clickable, embedded images argh! I can't believe I'm enabling this just attach a vCard, that would actually be useful --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: How to attach an image -- Thanks
exactly, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VCard or, go to your contact manager (like evolution) in the address book select your own entry - right click and Save as vCard. Other apps may do same thing by way of export - before you attach it to your signature, look at it in a regular editor (vi gedit etc) and you will see that it is the kind of file that could be hand edited. at least for the first couple dozen once attached to your signature, or individual email, those getting your email will be able to easily save your contact information into their addressbook on a web page you would use a microformat called hCard to achieve the same level of automation - or better make your own FOAF entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HCard vCards can also be expressed as QRcodes and many smart phones will do the smart thing with them. or look for ZBar to read them from your PC that reminds me - I should visit vistaprint soon - thx Ed On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com wrote: vCard is the abbreviation for Virtual Business Card (.vcf file), the standard for creating and sharing contact information over the Internet. you can send a contact to another person by forwarding it in vCard format. A recipient who uses an email and personal information manager program that supports vCards, such as Entourage, can open the vCard and add the contact to his or her address book. On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 12:09 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: Thanks, Ed. I agree with your assessment of html email and I use text email almost exclusively; but I was just hoping to find a way to do what I described. So, what is a vcard and how could I use it to achieve the described objective? Joe = Ed replied: = Joe - you want to sent HTML email - embed (not attach) the image like any website and then add the link - make sure to add some javascript just for fun too (just kidding) make sure your email works in a text only world too - many, including myself consider HTML email an abomination/security problem and routinely have email servers strip that crap off at the front door - others dump the whole email into the spam box. it would be a shame to spend all this time designing the email, just to make it undeliverable - you might consider attaching your card as a vCard, that would be more useful. argh! I can't believe I'm enabling this just attach a vCard, that would actually be useful --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- (503) 754-4452 Android (623) 239-3392 Skype (623) 688-3392 Google Voice ** it-clowns.com Chief Clown --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Hi - curious about Making an Ontology for the Semantic Web?
Just a FYI I am presenting, and you are all welcome - Making an Ontology for the Semantic Web - A Demonstration of creating, integrating and deploying an Ontology to the Semantic Web using free software and standards. http://nov2012.desertcodecamp.com/session/555 at Desert Code Camp 2012.1 November 17 3:30-4:30 PM room IRN-124 Chandler-Gilbert Community College, Pecos campus The plan is to demo using Protege as an IDE, Gephi to display, Clerezza to host and Stanbol to serve - well that's the plan so far - go sign up to attend - it's free thx - Ed --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: mk802, g-82
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 10:10 PM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote: Am 19. Oct, 2012 schwätzte Ed so: Hans - MythTV will be too complex an interface - XBMC may have a skin that works - and it will run on everything from a Raspberry PI on up (Debian too) http://www.raspbmc.com/ Can't you add and remove options from the Myth interface? you can, and there are plugins too. But, the UX paths are understandable to you and I because we recognize the structure, but it isn't intuitive for someone without a computer background - not to mention the level of detailed configuration that normal folks really do not like. Besides, from the lists, the most enjoyable remote for MythTV is apparently a Bluetooth keyboard - again, a miss on the target audience. Now, XBMC acting as a front-end for a MythTV back-end is nice. I saw XMBC on a Raspberry Pi before they were released :). new and improved - now with twice the memory! ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and # write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn. -- Alvin Toffler --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: mk802, g-82
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:25 PM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote: Am 19. Oct, 2012 schwätzte Ed so: moin moin, Can't you add and remove options from the Myth interface? you can, and there are plugins too. But, the UX paths are understandable to you and I because we recognize the structure, but it Haven't seen it in a while. Last I saw it, the base UI looked easy enough once unused stuff was removed. Then again, I wasn't contemplating Alzheimer's back then. isn't intuitive for someone without a computer background - not to mention the level of detailed configuration that normal folks really Ah, well I'll be stuck with 100% of the configuration. well it is a hierarchical set of menus, no bread crumbs and lots of potential functional levels to get lost in, not just a simple TV. do not like. Besides, from the lists, the most enjoyable remote for MythTV is apparently a Bluetooth keyboard - again, a miss on the target audience. Now, XBMC acting as a front-end for a MythTV back-end is nice. Yeah, that's something for me to consider. maybe something using a Kinect? ;) at least you could include a work-out with the TV viewing... also - get a good idea of favorite shows, preferred news channels and other comfortable media. ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks. # -- Robert Heinlein --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: mk802, g-82
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:36 PM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote: moin moin, Brian had a mk802 at Stammtisch Tuesday. We've talked about it a few times. http://www.ovalelephant.com/p-2074-mk802-v2-curved-kangaroo-android-mini-pc-allwinner-a10-1gb-cpu-4gb-flash I found claims that another device is much better. http://www.ovalelephant.com/index.php?route=product/productproduct_id=2077 Looks to me like dual-core and faster CPU is the advantage for the g-82. Same amount of memory, still a card slot, same ports. The spec listing there for the g-82 only lists 1080p, but it can do lower resolution stuff as well? What is 2160p? Is that going to 11? Aside from the toy potential, what I really need is a simplified media interface for an alzheimers patient. I need to be able to get over the air broadcast. I would like to have a picture gallery and a movie archive ( I can rip the person's DVDs elsewhere and just move the files ). I absolutely need a simple, single remote that will do the right thing for volume, channel changes, etc. completely transparently to the user. I don't need big buttons, but I suppose they don't hurt. http://www.bigbuttonremotes.com/remotes-tekpal.htm That might have to do, but I'd like to also be able to use a couple of menus. http://www.bigbuttonremotes.com/remotes-tekpartner.htm That one looks like it should launch missiles :). This one has promise. http://www.oneforall.com/us_US/product/67/oark02r If I can connect a cable modem, then that's a bonus. Video chat and remote sysadm are the reasons for wanting an Internet connection. Being able to load a normal distro isn't a requirement, but pretty close to being a requirement. ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then # you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and # I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have # two ideas. -- George Bernard Shaw --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss Hans - MythTV will be too complex an interface - XBMC may have a skin that works - and it will run on everything from a Raspberry PI on up (Debian too) http://www.raspbmc.com/ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: The Great Shared Directory Dilemma
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Wayne Davis wayda...@centurylink.net wrote: Ever since I have started using Linux, I have NEVER been able to figure out how to share directories of different computers on the network. Ive wanted to share NTFS and EXT4 directories amongst several machines. Pointers anyone? I really need to resolve this as it is rapidly becoming necessary to do so. I am using Kubuntu 12.04 and Win7 machines (more than one of each) I like Webdav - it mounts as a directory in most file managers/exploreres on any OS and I've never had ownership issues - and it doesn't crash. Caution - do not expose to internet and you can fill a partition if you don't pay attention - put it in it's own partition. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: fill out forms
I use Xournal for markup - not useful for forms, saves as an image. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: [AzPHP] Tuning MySQL DB server
Hi Vimal - a bit OT as you're on Linode, but the best tuning I have ever seen on a database was putting it on a SSD. If you go the cluster route by keeping the master on Linode and using EC2 to serve capacity peaks when they come in, the a CFEngine config tool might have get you the dynamic capacity that you're looking for: http://cfengine.com/demos/cfengine-amazon-ec2 since cfengine is loosly coupled, you could have load on the webserver cluster drive the database cluster size - or time of day, or database loads - lots of options. Since the EC2 instances can be driven by load, you don't need to keep extra resources around that you aren't using - glad to hear your having deployment fun! ;) Ed --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: chrome vs chromium ??
ok - top-posting today Chrome has non-free plugins bundled with it like flash, to make the experience really really great!! and Chromium is the upstream project for Chrome, but without all the packaging etc - the plugins for chrome will typically work for chromium too, after you install them (got it).The Chromium project still has some problems getting included in repos, for example Fedora doesn't have it: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Chromium use Chromium if you can, give your non-computer savvy friends Chrome. On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Chromium is open source codebase behind chrome. So you will usually see it in Linux repos ect. On Oct 9, 2012 1:30 PM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote: If you can run chrome run that.. otherwise run chromium (which is just chrome complied for unsupported platforms usually). On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 1:11 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: What is the difference between google chrome and chromium? Which is preferable? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: How to run 'feh' in the background of a script?
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:27 AM, j...@actionline.com wrote: Thanks Matt. I like to use 'feh' rather than 'display' because 'feh -x -g' gives a borderless image with no title bar and with a specified image size. feh -x -g 400x400 kwrite textfile.txt ENTER (this worked) Is there also a way to execute both parts so that when I quit/close the text file, the image also closes rather than having to close it separately? if you want the kwrite process to be the control, you will be writing a script that launches feh as a subprocess rather than a background process, and then the kwrite process. That way when you exit kwrite, the script ends and kills it's children too. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
PLUGdev Thursday Oct 4th
Hello All, We are looking for a presenter for this Thursday, and if that is too short notice, we are also looking for a November presenter - post to the list if you have any ideas As an alternative I will cover the part 2 of CFEngine on getting it started, what it looks like when it is going - which isn't all that long but useful if you want to give CFEngine a try. Also, I will propose a project for the group to program - it is desktop focused and useful and in Python, I think. - so that's the plan. It might be a shorter meeting than normal unless there are additional topics. See you there - Ed --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: messed up my cups and lpr driver for Brother mfc5490cn
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Mike Bushroe mbush...@gmail.com wrote: I was trying to see if ti was possible to get print in reverse order, or better yet, software print double sided from gedit. Somehow I managed to get the dpkg into an unstable state where I can neither remove nor install the lpr package from Brother. So I tried running dselect to see if there were some more useful options through the gui, and now it won't install any NEW packages either. The error message when trying to remove it is: mike@mike-Satellite-P505:~/Downloads/brother_mfc5490cn$ sudo dpkg --force-all -r mfc5490cnlpr dpkg: warning: overriding problem because --force enabled: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal. (Reading database ... 351489 files and directories currently installed.) Removing mfc5490cnlpr ... start: Unknown job: lpd dpkg: error processing mfc5490cnlpr (--remove): subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: mfc5490cnlpr I am running out of ideas on how to manually remove the remaining files and start again, force removal, or force re-install, as none of these has worked so far. And of course I no longer have printer access. Any suggestions? Where do I find or create a more detailed error log to see what can be fixed or changed manually? Mike -- But he lives on in a Horcrux named Siri I know this isn't a great help, but: time to keep config files (or the whole etc directory) under version control (I like Subversion, others like Git - both will work) ? find / -name mfc5490* maybe - you need to get your dpkg happy first - if dpkg is like yum, there will be more logging done in /var/log --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Google Voice question.
damn - now I have to go to Home Depot --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
PLUGdev September 6th Presentation on CFEngine - room 245, 7-9PM UAT
Check out the announcement http://www.plug.phoenix.az.us/meetings/16-developer-meeting/90-plug-devel-topic-for-sept-6th-2012.html CFEngine - First Promises Presented by Ed Nicholson, 0x1b, Inc. PLUG Developers group September 6th, 2012 CFEngine is a highly scaleable configuration management system that has been around long enough to have it's own directory in /var. Based in the management philosophy of Promise Theory, CFEngine implements a system centric convergent model of configuration that has proven to be surprisingly versatile, durable, and performant. This presentation is an introduction to CFEngine, a quick start example, and finally an introduction to the many resources at hand. Additionally, this completes the review of DevOps tools that has included presentations on Puppet and Cheff. Hope to see you all there - Ed --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Is there any disadvantage to a static ip address?
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Jerry Snitselaar d...@snitselaar.org wrote: On Mon Aug 20 12, Stephen wrote: i think its partly intentional to clear servers that are not paying for it. 6/month for a single static ip however i find kinda ridiculous in price. Considering what Cox charges or used to charge at least, that isn't that bad. For Cox you had to get a business acct for the lovely price of ~$100/month. Are you running something like Dynamic DNS - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_DNS there is likely a client in your repos and there are some services that are free - if your are willing to go with a nonsense host name. (never used 'em know nothing about 'em - only an example http://www.no-ip.com/ ) Due to the PhoneCo/Cable monopoly - if you need a static IP, you should look into a hosting service like Linode. Getting a static IP at your home just doesn't make any sense - besides, the service is crappy and that is more likely your problem than anything malicious - unless they are deep packet filtering, in which case you are already blacklisted... ;) --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: How to add a second Google Voice number?
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 1:31 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: The plot thickens (see below): On Mon, Aug 13 I originally wrote (in part): I have one Google Voice number for my business, and would like to add a second GV# for personal use, but can't figure out how to [snipped] Do I have to have a second/separate Gmail acct to get a second GV#? Or is there a way to set up two in a single account? JD Austin replied (in part): You can via multiple email accounts but one account can't have more than one google voice number. In further searching, I found an article at the link below with this title: Google Voice now lets you have multiple numbers on one account - for a fee. http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/06/10/google-voice-now-lets-you-have-multiple-numbers-on-one-account-for-a-fee/#comment-487080738 Two applicable screen captures: http://www.upquick.com/temp/gv2.jpg http://www.upquick.com/temp/gv4.jpg This seems to suggest that I could add a second number to the same (single) account, but I'm a bit apprehensive about trying to do this because I've seen some other articles that seem to indicate that adding a second number might cause the loss of the original (existing GGV number) which I definitely do not want to lose. I would test this with a toss-account to confirm the process - once it works for something you can toss, repeat on something you want to keep. And as a user, now go over to LongNow.org folks and listen to Cory Doctorow's talk from last month. 8) http://longnow.org/seminars/02012/jul/31/coming-century-war-against-your-computer/ Anybody have any further insights or suggestions in this regard? Can't seem to get any help, clarification, or advice from Google (i.e. google voice forum, etc.) --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: How to add a second Google Voice number?
Google is very careful not to be a phone company - when JD talks about the link between your real phone number and their Google voice number, that makes Google a forwarding service, not a Phone Co. - the regulatory burden is night and day. So, if you open a second Gmail account and link it to your one real phone number - it will steal it from your first Gmail account, which will then not have a related land line. Although they do stay active if you link it to your Google talk account - that might be automatic these days - duno The economical route is to go VoIP = http://diamondcard.us/ On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:00 PM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote: You can via multiple email accounts but one account can't have more than one google voice number. Also you can't tie the same phone number to more than one google voice account. On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 12:19 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: Hope someone can provide some guidance on this question. I have google for an answer, but it only leaves me more confused. While I have one Google Voice number for my business, I would like to add a second number for our personal use, but I can't figure out how to add a second number. When I log in to my Google Voice account, it shows the existing number and I can't find a way to add a second number. Do I have to have a second/separate Gmail account in order to get a second number? Or is there some way to set up both in a single account? And if so, how can I do that? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: DON'T PANIC
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 10:44 PM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: I love vi... Likewise... Would not use anything else. Can't lear anything else... :) ET Amit Nepal writes: I love vi. I started with vi , i have never used other editors. Vi is simply awesome/powerful and full of features *Amit K Nepal Infrastructure Engineer (RHCE) omNovia Technologies Inc. http://www.omnovia.com Amit K Nepal http://www.amitnepal.com http://www.amitnepal.com* On 8/10/2012 9:32 PM, Jim March wrote: I saw somebody use VI once, and was glad somebody wrote GEdit :). Jim . --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss I really liked Teco - especially the direct core editing patch - but then I had to get work done, now I like Vim with the Zeitgeist plugin. I like jEdit too... --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: getting rid of android on tablet
Give Linaro a look : http://www.linaro.org/ There is an OpenBSD ARM distribution that looks uptodate, although more for storage devices than tablets: http://www.openbsd.org/armish.html On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 11:31 AM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote: Ubuntu is getting close to having a linux that will run on some android devices.. but until then I'd recommend you load Cyanogenmod on them. On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Steven A. DuChene linux-clust...@mindspring.com wrote: I have a few 7 android tablets made by either pandigital or panimage. They have some older version of android on them. I am not really all that wild about the restrictive and weird nature of android. Is there anyway to put a more normal version of some light weight Linux on them? These tablets only have 256MB of real memory although recently I have seen other cheap 7 tablets with 512MB of memory. I want to be able to run a single graphical app on them with no fancy desktop environment. I have a graphical app that displays real time data from a automotive ECU and I would like to be able to have the tablet boot up and just run this single app. Initially if I could just get some sort of text console prompt so I could start to figure stuff out that would be good but I really want to get rid of android and go to some other more normal lightweight linux distro. Is any of this possible at all? -- Steven DuChene --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Do you really want to do PLUGdev Thursday?
It is hot (thr 104°) and I'm feeling lazy - what do you say we put off the CFengine presentation? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
July PLUGdev tonight is cancelled - just to repeat
CFEngine presentation is ready for August, but tonight looked like it would be lightly attended due to people extending the holiday - happy 4th++ everyone --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: rsync syntax question
rsync -avH --progress dirname/ webhostname:www/differentdirname add the trailing / and it works on the contents - see the section on Usage: http://www.samba.org/ftp/rsync/rsync.html On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 3:36 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: How can I modify the following syntax to copy a directory to a different directory name? I currently use this: rsync -avH --progress dirname webhostname:www/ Which works fine to update the contents of dirname. But how could I modify this syntax so that it would copy the contents of dirname to differentdirname ? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Call for Presenters - PLUGdev July 5th
Hi All We need a presentation for the July PLUGdev meeting, Thursday the 5th. If you want to present a development oriented presentation, Please post to the PLUGdev list plugde...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us We are looking for presentations on all aspects of development; from idea generation to details of compilation for specific languages to deployment with services and all the way to lifecycle management. If you need suggestions there is an interest in presentations that speak to the following topics: LDAP integration LINUX kernel configure and compile MySQL set up Scala Developing for RaspberryPi/Arduino/BeagleBoard/Android... Thanks and see you next Thursday - Ed --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Call for Presenters - PLUGdev July 5th
or is the 5th too close to The Independence Day Holiday for everyone? On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Ed p...@0x1b.com wrote: Hi All We need a presentation for the July PLUGdev meeting, Thursday the 5th. If you want to present a development oriented presentation, Please post to the PLUGdev list plugde...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us We are looking for presentations on all aspects of development; from idea generation to details of compilation for specific languages to deployment with services and all the way to lifecycle management. If you need suggestions there is an interest in presentations that speak to the following topics: LDAP integration LINUX kernel configure and compile MySQL set up Scala Developing for RaspberryPi/Arduino/BeagleBoard/Android... Thanks and see you next Thursday - Ed --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Looking for Streaming Media Software Recommendations
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I have a underused Debian headless server, a network enabled DLNA TV, so.why not stream some movies to this TV? I am looking for recommendations for a streaming media server that will run on a headless Debian server. Thanks! Mark http://mediatomb.cc/ see wiki for DLNA config if doing java look at http://www.pure-mac.com/mediacenter.html#ps3mediaserver or add a receiver and go with MythTV - very feature rich backend (ie complex to config) fyi - UPnP opens a huge security hole for network access to the host --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Developers meeting tonight?
Sorry for the confusion - I sent a message to both the plug-discuss and plug-devel lists we had a good group and a good discussion - and a little detective work too The next PLUGdev meeting has a presentation by Lisa on Puppet, so it should be interesting - the first of a series on configuration management tools (cfengine chef to come) PLUGdev is held in room 245 at UAT and our times have moved a bit earlier to 7PM to 9PM On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, Ed is going to talk about systemd. He sent an announcement but I don't know to what group/list. On May 3, 2012 10:22 AM, Steven A. DuChene linux-clust...@mindspring.com wrote: Last time I drove over to UAT for a Thursday night developers meeting there was no meeting. Is there a Developers meeting this evening at UAT? -- Steven DuChene --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
PLUGdev Thursday night 7-9PM UAT room 245 - systemd
Hi All, Tomorrows presentation is on systemd, the new process start up that is replacing SysV scripts. I will give a quick overview of what makes systemd different, work a basic example for those of you including systemd in your deployments, and close with a discussion of some of the potential configuration options when using systemd. The June PLUGdev presentation is on Puppet, the first of several presentations on configuration management tools we will be discussing this Summer/Fall I also want to ask if PLUGdev should take a Summer break or no - I am willing (and obviously fail to remember what summer is like in Phoenix) but this isn't going to work without you - so, speak up if you plan on spending summer under a rock or not - thx Ed --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Reminder - PLUGdev this Thursday 5th of April room 245 from 7PM to 9PM on the UAT main campus
Paul Mooring is presenting Metaprogramming with Ruby. PLUG Developers meeting is in room 245 from 7PM to 9PM at UAT in Tempe. see our site for directions http://www.plug.phoenix.az.us/ and additional detail also still looking for a presenter on Puppet to join a Chef/CFengine/Puppet bake-off this fall See you there Thursday - Ed --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: network issue blocks svn code pull?
The svn:// protocol is really best for an Intranet (WebDAV derivative) - ask for an http:// of https:// link to the repository. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
PLUGdev April 5th presentation: Metaprogramming with Ruby
Hello All, Mark your calendar for the first Thursday in April - Paul Mooring is presenting Metaprogramming with Ruby. PLUG Developers meeting is in room 245 from 7PM to 9PM at UAT in Tempe. see our site for directions http://www.plug.phoenix.az.us/ Title: Metaprogramming with Ruby Description: The Ruby programming language gives developers tremendous flexibility and power, this flexibility makes Ruby ideal for metaprogramming. In this talk I will define what metaprogramming is, give an overview of Ruby's Object model and what makes it uniquely suited for metaprogramming, and give some examples of common metaprogramming techniques in Ruby. Bio: Paul Mooring is a systems engineer and customer advocate at Opscode. He has been involved in Linux systems administration, and abusing Ruby for fun and profit for 5 years. going forward we have interest from the group on these topics: LDAP integration MySQL set up systemd Scala Puppet Using a public Git repository - Github or Gitorious (***add your interests here***) If we can find a presenter for Puppet, I think a series of presentations on Chef, Puppet and CFengine this fall would be interesting - so any Puppet masters out there? See you Thursday - Ed --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Rasperry Pi tomorrow night?
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Ted Gould t...@gould.cx wrote: On Sun, 2012-03-04 at 18:45 -0800, keith smith wrote: These look pretty cool. What are you using for power, data, and monitor ? I don't have one yet, but I'm planning on using an old-ish TV that still has HDMI. Not sure what I'm going to use it for, I'm thinking of trying to build a calendar app. Download ical, display pictures, look pretty :-) --Ted I hear it powers XBMC nicely --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
March 1st PLUGdev has not attracted a presenter and is cancelled
Sorry about that - Ed --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
PLUGdev - March April schedule 7-9PM room 136
Hello All, UAT has given PLUGdev new rooms for the rest of Spring, so make note we are on the first floor room 136 - unfortunately not the Theater... also We are looking for Presenters - so speak up if you want to present on a development related topic. If you would like to present, just not this Spring, let me get you on the schedule! We may not be in room 136 after April, but we will be at UAT. Also, Here is the list of PLUGdev interests - add something to it if you can LDAP integration MySQL set up systemd Scala Puppet Using a public Git repository - Github or Gitorious I would like to Thank Walter for speaking on LINUX kernel configure and compiling at our February meeting --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Thursday PLUGdev presentation: Overview of customizing and re-compiling a Linux kernel
February PLUGdev is this Thursday 7:30 PM at UAT in Tempe room 201 presentation: Overview of customizing and re-compiling a Linux kernel Bring your experiences and customizations Ed --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Call to Presenters - PLUGdev is February 2nd
Walter - can you send a Title to Hans so it can go on the website - thx Ed* *dusting off notes on real time kernels On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Walter Mack wm...@componentsw.com wrote: I'll present then. On 1/28/2012 5:05 PM, Ed wrote: Walter, I think that sounds great, following your talk we could open the conversation and discuss other customizations to the Kernel that people have tried. Ed On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Walter Mackwm...@componentsw.com wrote: Re linux kernel config and compile: How much or little detail would the group want? I could make a walk-through of the process with maybe a little tweak to the configuration Before I commit, I'd just like to know how much detail should be covered. Walter --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Call to Presenters - PLUGdev is February 2nd
We need a presentation for the February PLUGdev meeting, Thursday the 2nd. If you want to present a development oriented presentation, Please post to the PLUGdev list plug-de...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us We are looking for presentations on all aspects of development; from idea generation to details of compilation for specific languages to deployment with services and all the way to life-cycle management. If you need suggestions - there is an interest in presentations that speak to the following topics: LDAP integration LINUX kernel configure and compile MySQL set up systemd Scala Puppet Thanks and see you this Thursday - Ed --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: google's ftp
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I tried googling it. I just got a bunch of godaddy advertisements. I think I would put: ftp://googlesftp/myuserid but I don't know googles ftp. I tried ftp://google.com Maybe I'm doing it wrong. I'm putting my website in the HTTP space and ftp://google.com/my user name It used to be that when I went to the website (fatherswithforeignbabies.us) that it would go to a page with a bunch of ads. Then I tried to upload to google. ohhh. That's my problem. My hosting is somewhere else. Oops. Hmmm. Now when I go to the page instead of all the advertisements it gives me a 'server not found' error. Did I mess things up? How do I fix it? or is it just a matter of uploading it to the correct host? You are thinking about Google Sites - a template driven website service. I don't know of any Google service that works with FTP. Login to your Google account and go to Google Sites - start a website with the correct URL and follow the instructions on how to have your DNS (at you GoDaddy account) point to the site. There are many options, but essentially you will need to add a CNAME record to your DNS profile to prove to Google that you control the account. Then you will need to configure the DNS at GoDaddy to point (A record) to your Google Site. at least that is how I remember it --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
What is the presentation for Thursday PLUGeast?
Didn't see an announcement on the site, just wondering Ed --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OSS distributed system imaging solutions?
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Ben Browning b...@bensbrowning.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 6:23 AM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com wrote: Check out this list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_configuration_management_software Hey Lisa, That's all config management and software deployment- I need something that PXE boots and installs baseline OS images. Thanks though! ~Ben try cobbler.github.com look in the archives for a freebsd deployment patch - I think --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
PLUGdev this Thursday - Cancelled So what Do you want for 2012?
Sorry Folks - we are now looking for a February Presenter - lets get some suggestions as to what you want to hear about, maybe what you want to present about in 2012. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Call for January PLUGdev Presentations - this Thursday at UAT
Happy New Year All, Are there any presenters for the Thursday, January 5th PLUGdev meeting? Please speak up if you would like to present or are interested in requesting a presentation. Thank you - Ed --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Looking for Laptop Recommendations
Suggested: 4 Gig of RAM is best, if you go with a notebook make sure the ATOM chip will do hardware virtualization[1]. I mention a notebook because long battery life and small size will be appreciated by your daughter. and it is more likely to survive than a full size laptop. don't worry about processor speed - anything over 1ghz is enough for linux [1] http://ark.intel.com/products/family/29035 Happy New Year All!! On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 7:14 AM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: My daughter needs a new laptop for high school. It needs to run Debian or Ubunrtu and have enough horsepower to run Windows XP in VMware Player for iTunes. A refurbished machine is OK. I am mostly interested in what you would recommend as minimum hardware specs (processor 7 RAM) for this configuration. Also, if you have another suggestion for running Linux and iTunes, I am all ears! ;) Thanks! Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Puppet, Chef or CFEngine?
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 4:59 PM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com wrote: I am also looking at implementing one of these at some point in the near future. The standard scripts over ssh is simple and relatively well controlled, but teaching new people how to use them and maintaining them in a sane fashion is troublesome. I've used a few HP, Dell, Sun, and IBM config products in the past and they were all bad enough I went back to scripts in no time. On Nov 5, 2011 11:33 AM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com wrote: Can anyone chime in on using enterprise mass systems configuration and management tools? What are you using? Chef, Puppet or CFEngine and why? I like CFengine - the task based focus is on promises and the install is painless. The only ruff spot I could point to is with application updates - the interface to yum is less polished than some - updates work if you work on them as groups vs particular apps. There are many promises online and in the maillists for particular tasks. I think there is even a starter pack on github somewhere. CFengine fits well into ITIL and managing IT - lots of IT - and it has it's own directory in /var too! ;) The RH world has worked with Cobbler plus Puppet - this is getting tighter with Puppet plus TheForman and Pulp - if I remember the roadmap. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: no-one at developers meeting?
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Steven A. DuChene linux-clust...@mindspring.com wrote: I drove from Chandler down to UAT this evening with my no video problem computer in the hope that someone might have a bright idea while looking at it however no-one was there at all in room 203 at UAT. If there is not going to be a Dev meeting can someone post to the list of somehow indicate it on the calendar website? -- Steven DuChene I apologize Steven, we should have posted to the list - as to the website, I don't even try any more. Ed --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: KVM/QEMU issue
It is possible to indicate a block special device using its volume LABEL or UUID - and of course Fedora is changing how drives are identified fairly soon anyways - I forget if that's before or after they remove eth0. Archipel project looks interesting [archipelproject.org] a bit complicated with ejabberd tho ProxmoxVE is pve.proxmox.com i think On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Kevin Fries kfri...@gmail.com wrote: I used to have a lab with two Dell R200 servers, and I did not use virt-manager because it was too easy to mess up. Instead I used ProxmoxVE. Http://over.proxmox.com. It is like VM Ware ESX, except open source. It uses OpenVZ for hyper virtualization a.d KVN/QEMU for full virtualization. It supports clustering, and has a drop dead simple web console that would have made your life easier. Hope this helps. Kevin Fries On Nov 3, 2011 3:35 PM, Sean Roe s...@azbiz.net wrote: Hi Folks, I ran into a bit of an issue today and now im stuck. I have a VM server running Centos 6 with several VMs running inside of it. Well one of them had a drive run out of space so I thought no big deal, Ill blow away the drive in virt-manager and build a new drive with more space and then restore the data. SO I shut down the postgres server, comment out the partitions associated with the drive in /etc/fstab and power down the VM. The drive in question was /dev/sdd so I thought that would correspond to disk 4 in virt-manager, well I was wrong. I blew away the wrong drive /dev/sdc. Its a data drive so Im not really concerned, but I want to know how to make sure in the future I dont do this again. Thanks, Sean --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: no-one at developers meeting?
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Steven A. DuChene linux-clust...@mindspring.com wrote: It is a new desktop computer I am building out of new parts. I am not actually at a booting Linux point yet. The system turns on but I do not get any video output or post beeps. -- Steven DuChene no beeps - your system's busted - swap the power supply if you can, are you sure the mobo is getting power? any LED lights? Find a 'known good' power supply and try that. Until you get through post, and the beeps, don't add anything to the motherboard, especially out of the box new stuff - these days, you are the mfg's QA and watch the RMA dates rules. the build order is first power supply, then memory, then onboard video - see the bios, then the boot drive, then the other drives cards --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT; phone argument
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com wrote: Hi Betty! snip There ARE benefits to using Google Apps (especially for domain owners) and not having to maintain all my Calenders, Phone contacts, and data in more than one place, since you have to sync your iPhone and import/export the calendar. If you lose your phone all your stuff is still available (except for photos you have not tagged for picasa, etc) for instance. This is not true of iPhone. Google Apps sync well with LibreOffice and the others - see Funambol I suggest that you read the specifications for each phone and critically evaluate all things while standing in front of the phone holding it. snip I had a jailbroken iphone and I have a Android now, liking the Android (with the larger Dell Streak 5 screen) better. You can also get a VirginMobile phone that is a FLAT $25.00 a month NO CONTRACT running Android, that you can TETHER (using 3rd party tools from the App Store) and have internet on your Desktop, laptop or whatever. note in Lisa's response the importance of screen size and clarity - doing some hands on research is worth it. Getting a high resolution/big enough screen that you can comfortably look at for a while is worth it. A matt (non-reflective) surface is good too, but I don't know if any are available. Also, viewing angle gets important if you share your phones screen with others. Before you get your phone, pick the case you are going to keep it in - a little physical insurance for the phone. +1 on the other stuff +1 luck Betty --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ABLEconf dates?
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Alan Dayley aday...@gmail.com wrote: The content is up to people to suggest and volunteer to present. Obviously, if there has been purposeful scheduling to conflict with a major FOSS event, there will be less FOSS content at DCC. Sign up to present at DCC is still open and the November event does not conflict with ABLEconf. So it is up to FOSS people to sign up and vote interest to get FOSS content in the event. No need to picket, just take over some classrooms! Alan On Oct 13, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote: just to pander - I'm presenting an out of the box topic: Connecting Linked Data and Sharing Linked Data SPARQL Queries, Endpoints and RDFa explained and demonstrated with examples for commerce and identity. the examples include GoodRelations a commerce focused ontology and WebID, the W3C outgrowth of FOAF+SSL (distributed semantic authentication) - hope to see you there Ed --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
PLUGdev topic Thursday, October 6th 7:30PM in room 208 at UAT - Network Programming with libevent
PLUG Developers meeting Topic for Thursday October 6th: Kevin Bowling will be presenting on Network Programming with libevent http://libevent.org/ Looks like the answer to all your event loop problems - see you Thursday October 6th 7:30 PM at UAT room 208 Ed --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
PLUGdev Thursday October 6th at UAT room 208 from 7:30 p.m. - 9:00 p.m
Hi All - any plans for PLUGdev? How about a presentation on Subversion: setting properties and managing your configurations Ed --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Linux or :video editing software?
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:36 PM, mike enriquez myli...@cox.net wrote: Does anyone on the list know of a good video editing software for Linux or for Winlows? I would like an software that does not have a steep learning curve. Thanks Mike Enriquez --- Distro: http://dream.dickmacinnis.com/forum/ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: bookmark storage?
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 7:22 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote: On 09/15/2011 11:21 AM, Jill R wrote: I've been looking for a self-hosted tool to sync and/or store my web bookmarks between systems and I've about come up with nothing. So, of everything out there (hosted, 3rd party, or otherwise) what have people had luck or good experiences with? I'm concerned with privacy, cross-platform, cross-browser (mainly FF and Opera). Not really interested in yet another Google product. - jill Might this have been (be) a suitable project for the devel group to work on? Yes, but I wanted subversion to feed events into Tracker/Zeitgist - and haven't used onlinebookmarks for a while - I think it would call for a major update to using AJAX - bicbw --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: bookmark storage?
out of development, but nice http://www.frech.ch/online-bookmarks/ On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Jill R darkmatterh...@gmail.com wrote: I've been looking for a self-hosted tool to sync and/or store my web bookmarks between systems and I've about come up with nothing. So, of everything out there (hosted, 3rd party, or otherwise) what have people had luck or good experiences with? I'm concerned with privacy, cross-platform, cross-browser (mainly FF and Opera). Not really interested in yet another Google product. - jill --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Satellite Internet
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 4:41 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I bumped into Satellite Internet today and found it has improved vastly. I'm thinking this opens up faster internet access to those rural areas where there is not DSL or cable Internet access. I work from my home so I was very careful to ensure I would have access to cable or DSL. Now I see living and working more rural might be an option. Anyone using Satellite Internet? If so what is your experience? Thanks! Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss may eventually help http://www.dtnrg.org/wiki --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: I've got a VPS, now what M's should I RTF?
On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 4:38 PM, R P Herrold herr...@owlriver.com wrote: On Sun, 7 Aug 2011, Steven wrote: As I do consider RTFM do be a decent answer, does anyone have some preferred, How not to be an idiot with your new VPS, guides? harden it, take backups so you can get back online with a baseline image http://www.pmman.com/usage/hardening/ -- Russ herrold what Russ said +1 transition sshd to listening on a high/non-standard port +1 AIDE (or tripwire or samhain) done from a remote system +1 http://www.deer-run.com/~hal/sysadmin/FIA-via-SSH.html --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: batch job
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Brian Parma freec...@cox.net wrote: On 08/05/2011 03:45 PM, Dazed_75 wrote: I have finished doing the work but did it manually. For future reference, I'd like to re-learn what I forgot from 20+ years ago about how to do this the easy way. Basically, I had a directory full of files that I wanted to process all the same way and rename them in the process. What I could not remember was how with globbing, I could specify the output name part that was wild-carded in the input should be used in the output. Lets say I have a bunch of files named Screenshot-PXEmenu-*.png and I want to copy or rename them to PXEmenu-*.png. Both mv and copy fail (understandably?) using command Screenshot-PXEmenu-*.png PXEmenu-*.png. I am pretty sure there is a way to make one or both work with a syntax for the target I do not remember. Any clues? The names are real, though what I was really doing was using the convert command of ImageMagick to negate all the colors in those screenshots so I had a specified input and output file anyway. NTL, the base question here is the real one. -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Hi Larry, if the files have spaces in them, I make my life easier and run detox[1] on them first. Otherwise the command rename should do what you want: rename FROMpattern TOpattern Files rename Screenshot-PXE PXE Screenshot-PXE* if the files had spaces you wanted to keep.. do a find with the -print0 into an xargs with the -0 option that runs the rename. also bash does slice up strings in variables - see # ## % %% - kind of a match 'n scratch - good for scripting. x=Screenshot echo ${x#Screen} Ed [1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/detox/ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
The PLUGdev Project Candidate list - what only 4?
The PLUGdev group is looking to adopt a FLOSS project for the 2011/2012 season and we are collection suggestions. If you have a project that you would like to be in the running, please add to the list - 1) tell us what you want accomplished, 2) any URL is also appreciated. 3) your name. post to the list and I will re-roll the count as things come in. I think the plan is to pick the winner at the September meeting. 1. Supporting aural stylesheets in CSS. http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/aural.html (Joseph SInclair). Joseph - is there a particular project/library? http://www.webkit.org/? please fix TIA 2. Modifying/forking/creating an animations engine that will either plugin to Inkscape, or that is a standalone program or fork from it. Something capable of creating svg animations suitable for use on the Internet http://inkscape.org/ (Joseph SInclair). 3. A Minecraft server implementation. http://www.minecraft.net/ (Kevin Bowling). 4. Add Subversion info to Tracker's Indexing abilities http://projects.gnome.org/tracker/ (Ed Nicholson) 5. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: RFC - Linux Command Cheatsheet
Hi Dennis - a few thing come to mind: tee is a basic tool - as is ssh (needs it's own sheet I think) like screen perhaps - tree is also a handy extended/visual ls. the need to mount/umount devices is always new to windows folks - getting oriented with dmesg and uname is good to know too. Nmap is handy, but it might be more SysAdminish - like nice. Rather than a section on SELinux - you could mention all of the tools for file meta-data in one place making chown chmod and chcon a set of tools gives selinux useful context. I would add unison right next to rsync - and lynx for browsing from the command line - and anacron is cron for laptops. Scripts begin with #! /bin/bash.. Typically have a couple [ in them.. and are often made quiet with ./script /dev/null 21 my favourite tool is detox (but for standard unix there is tr or dos2unix/unix2dos) for text conversions; or convert for images or transcode for video. finally, for me, xargs turns more scripts into one-liners than anything else. echo? lpr? there really are too many to list on just one page... Looks nice - I can't wait to see the final version. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: KVM/QEMU windows based management interface?
http://libguestfs.org/shell into the the server and guestfish the clients. https://rwmj.wordpress.com is useful too On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Lamp is indeed running, thanks for the tip. this admittedly was not one of the web tools i tried to use. On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Dennis Kibbe denn...@mesacc.edu wrote: On Thu, 2011-07-07 at 07:14 -0700, Stephen wrote: I have just installed KVM/QEMU and it seems to be happily running on my server, howeveri cant find any tools that work from a windows machine. the best i can think of is installing X on the server and then useing putty/xming to run them from the server. This is not a route i want to go, i really want to keep x of the server. the web tools i have tried so far have not gone well. Does anyone have some suggestions on what i can do or any tools they suggest for this situation? creating a VM and certain tasks from command line make sense, but i need a console that i cna use to actually perform installation inside the console of the vm so I can make the install happen. See if Virtualmin will do what you want. When people want a GUI for a server they, of course, think of a GUI like they are running on their desktop. I think the correct GUI for a server running in your web browser. Chances are the server is already running a LAMP stack. Dennis -- Adjunct Faculty Linux Operating System and System Administration Business and Computer Information Systems Mesa Community College --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: KVM/QEMU windows based management interface?
also Cobbler does some virtual client management - but it is incidental to it's primary function. OTOH it does have a web GUI. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Revised Linux Command Cheatsheet
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Dennis Kibbe denn...@mesacc.edu wrote: On Thu, 2011-07-07 at 09:40 -0700, Dazed_75 wrote: Actually, I have one more suggestion. For those using a laser printer (BW type) it would be good to have another indicator of the dangerous commands. Keep the color, but add something like a leading * or = or boldface or a different font. Anything easily discernible without color. Larry, Good point. Not sure what will stand out in BW without taking up more space but just download the opt file I linked to and make any changes you want. :-) Dennis -- Serif for safe - sans for not? looks great afaiac - no xargs? but it's so fun! --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
GoDaddy sold
GoDaddy sold for $2.25B to KKR etc --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Laptop Power Management
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: and found what i was looking for. http://www.jupiterapplet.org/ so long as you don't mind a mono app - and - uninstalling may need a kernel reinstall to take. thanks to ableconf folks for having some solid documentation of the events hosted! On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Found the Speaker finally Jim Klein Director of Information Services Saugus Union School District Now to find out the power management tool he used... On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 8:48 AM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com wrote: I usually turn down my cpu's frequency to reduce heat. also increases battery life. cpufrequtils makes it easy. On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: yeah someone made a tool that did allot of under the hood stuff like this and allowed you some nice control over it. im not used to linux laptops. but firt run battery life went from about 2.5 hrs to nearly 6. On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Joseph Sinclair plug-discuss...@stcaz.net wrote: Not sure about alternate tools; but you should read this post on Phoronix about kernel regressions that cause high power consumption: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=linux_2638_aspmnum=1 On 06/30/2011 08:59 PM, Stephen wrote: Yay i finally got a spare drive to do an install of Linux on this thing. at ableconf last a gentleman was talking about power management that he was using in his school district on some netbooks. I cant fro the life of me remember what it was nor can i find my notes that were taken on the matter. Does anyone remember what he was using? or the school district he was from? Or even some good ideas? right now im starting with a fresh Ubuntu 11.04... and i just remember that it made power times on battery phenomenally better on this power hungry beast. Anyhow thanks in advance! --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- James McPhee jmc...@gmail.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Google+
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 3:12 PM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote: Am 30. Jun, 2011 schwätzte James Finstrom so: moin moin, So, Google+ is out and is their answer to facebook it is suppose to be the I would love to have a presentation on Free Software and federated options for social networking. I presume such a presentation would also need to cover the centralized-data-gathering social networks as well in order to compare and contrast capabilities. ciao, der.hans -- 1) see Foaf+SSL for distributed secure ID - aka WebID: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/spec/ 2) heard something about Diaspora: https://joindiaspora.com/ maybe we could host our own server. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: autofs
systemd uses autofs to quicken Fedora's/OpenSUSE's boot time when starting devices. (paralleling the dependence tree) I don't use it myself, but if it works for systemd Cobbler runs my PXE server, but your set-up sounds interesting - I'd appreciate hearing what eventually works for you. Ed On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Is anyone familiar with using autofs for anything other than remote home directories. I am trying to get a PXE server to automount a .ISO file to a loop device as a result of a PXE client making a request (which is, of course, specified in the menu served to the client by the PXE server). I seem to get part of it working but not all. I'd like to find someone to sit down with on this ... or find some written tutorial more pertinent or better than the ones I have found. -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it always to be kept alive. - Thomas Jefferson --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ubuntu Desktop dns binding help
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Tom Ostlund t...@ostlundgroup.com wrote: Hello All, I have my LAMP setup working just fine but I would like to setup dns so that I can fully test the sites that I am working on locally. This is where google fails me. I can see all kinds of stuff for Ubuntu Server but not really anything for Ubuntu Desktop. Can anyone send me a link to a NOOB tutorial on setting this up? Thanks Tom Mesa, Az Tom, +1 hosts The easiest, and simplest thing to do is to just add an entry in your hosts file that short-circuits the normal name resolution of your remote site - like pointing google.com to localhost, but more meaningful. It is easy to do and undo, but it is only for the simplest of tests. If you need more, look into setting up your own dns server. etc etc Ed --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: (Slightly OT) Weird PDF Printing Problem
Could the images be just links in the pdf and not embedded? or is the page layout hiding the images from your printer? There are times that I have had the pictures origin so far up and to the left that it pushes the actual picture outside of the display window - pita. you can open the pdf with a text editor (or Bluefish) to see if the images are handled differently from the ones you do see. On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: This problem may be Linux related...A friend send me a pdf he made on a shudder...Windows machine. It displays properly in my spiffy Debian testing machine (all images are present), but when I print the page on my Linux compatible HP printer, some of the images are missing. I have never had this problem with other PDF documents sent to me, nor with the pdf pages I create using open office, nor cups print to pdf. He says the page prints with all the images in place on his printer. Any ideas on what may be going on would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: How to convert a pdf file to html ?
Try using L/OOo - it is not unusual for webapps to use a headless L/OOo instance for background conversions. LibreOffice.org or the at Oracle thing. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: How to put a web page slide show in a window?
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:00 AM, j...@actionline.com wrote: How can I put a slide-show window in one of my web pages that will display (cycle-through) all the images in a designated subdirectory, starting with the most recent additions? I would hope to be able to do this with html alone (no flash) so the images would display on any browser. Try Lightbox2 http://www.huddletogether.com/projects/lightbox2/ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
systemd - A New Start for Linux - Thursday February 3rd is the PLUGdev meeting at UAT in Tempe - room 208 from 7:30 - 9:00 PM
Thursday February 3rd is the PLUGdev meeting at UAT in Tempe - room 208 from 7:30 - 9:00 PM Topic : systemd - A New Start for Linux Systems all start with something - PID 1 - and for traditional Unix and Linux systems that has been sysVinit. Well, systemd is a developing replacement for sysVinit in some Linux distros, and it has some interesting features. Tonight's talk will be an introduction to systemd, some historical context and an open discussion of what opportunities this new way of starting may bring. And don't worry, it wont break all your scripts - that's what the change in network naming is for! ;) hope to see you all there! Ed --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OSS Accounting Advice
On 02/02/2011 02:01 PM, Nathan England wrote: Hello Hello! I am in need of some advice. I need some OSS accounting software that is see xTuple (postbooks at sourceforge) - it is at the same level as Compiere http://www.xtuple.org/ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: [PLUG-Devel] Topics for next 6 months of PLUG Development meetings
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:20 PM, Paul Hahn paulsh...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, We have put together the topics for the next 6 months of PLUG-Dev meetings. The topics for February to July are as follows: February: Presentation on implementation of server-d. Server-d is the new startup system for Fedora Linux. looked it up - systemd March: MV-Proc. MV Proc is a Model View Control framework designed for simple websites where most of the model and controller programming is done by database programmers using MySQL stored procedures. April: Presentation on DBUS. DBUS is the interprocess messaging framework used by the latest GNU/Linux operating systems. It replaces many older technologies used for similar purposes, such as ORBit. May: Presentation on the creation of Debian Packages. This will build on past presentations on GNU build systems that covered the automake toolchain and building RPM packages. June: Presentation on source code control systems. Details will be determined later. July: Adopt-A-Project Code-A-Thon and Pizza Party. Look for more information to be posted on Adopt-A-Project soon. Unfortunately, the website is in transition and we cannot update the site at this time, so please make note of these meetings and don't forget to announce them at all your local PLUG meetings. Many Thanks, Paul Hahn ___ PLUGdev meetings are held at UAT in room 208 from 7:30 p.m. - 9:00 p.m. for the following dates: 1/6/11 2/3/11 - systemd 3/3/11 - MV Proc 4/7/11 - BDUS 5/5/11 - Debian Packages Thanks Paul --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: PLUG: Deleted West Side Meeting
Eric Can you present to the Febuary PLUG east meeting? I think that was talked about at the Janusry meeting. Thanks, Ed. On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Technomage Hawke technomage.ha...@gmail.com wrote: btw, I was hoping to present on accessibility technology in the next month or 2 on the west side. let me know if I am needed for a presentation. I will also need a ride there. -Eric --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OpenBSD and the FBI
from a development perspective: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2014004 lesson - document those commits On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Jordan Aberle jordan.abe...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting information: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-techm=129236621626462w=2 Jordan --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: where is squid proxy
Squid is a proxy server found at http://www.squid-cache.org/ I would guess that apt-get thinks of it as squid-cache. Unless you already have Squid (doesn't sound like it) already set up - this is a bit over the top just to let port 5050 past the firewall + NAT. If you have a home network, Squid is a good way to control access to the Internet. If you have one computer on a broadband connection, then just opening port 5050 should be enough, add forwarding if you have NAT setup. Squid is a heavy service, other tunneling tools exist like nc (aka netcat) or ssh or stunnel that will be much easier to set up. Once you are set up, you should check to see which service you have listening at port 5050 with something like netstat -ta or wireshark, etc Happy Holidays - Ed --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Versioning system - Subversion Vs. Git
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:29 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I'm looking at version systems for two different projects each on their own server. I used Subversion about 3 years ago for just a few week so I have little recall of subversion. I was doing some research and it seems Git is emerging. That makes me believe that I should look at Git and install/learn/use it. Of course before I venture down this path, I always like to ask the experts. Thank you for your insight on Subversion Vs. Git. Keith - Your choice should be driven by the needs of your projects. A centrally managed or controlled project is aligned with the structure of Subversion - so SVN will help reinforce this aspect of the project. A highly distributed project with many independent contributors fits with the structure of Git - so Git will leverage this kind of organization better. both are good tools and while Austin is having *fun*, he should get a *clue* about SVN - maybe from the free book at http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.branchmerge.html In addition to the other Git resources mentioned, IBM has a good set of articles at it's developerworks site - http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/search/searchResults.jsp?searchType=1searchSite=dWsearchScope=dWquery=GitSearch=Search Austin sorry for the rip - didn't mean anything by it. I am looking forward to your presentation - which meeting are you likely to do the presentation? *really* Ed --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Versioning system - Subversion Vs. Git
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Thomas Gail Haws tom.h...@gmail.com wrote: That's what you would think. And that's what Git does (in a devious, compact, efficient way that's better than saving a version of the entire file). Which may help explain why it's so well received. Tom -- To forgive is the highest, most beautiful form of love. In return, you will receive untold peace and happiness. - Dr. Robert Muller On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:24 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: I guess I need to dig deeper. I thought that was the core of what a versioning system does - saves each version at commit so you will have a different file each time you save. Keith Smith Hi Keith - weather you go SVN or Git of something else - you might want to read the first parts of the Red Bean book - it is a good intro to general version contro issues. If you like Subversion you should look into Trac as a nice project environment [http://trac.edgewall.org/] that I should probably do a presentation on fairly soon. For the website config, or DNS config etc I would go with Subversion because having a just one deployed known good config will aid your sanity - and if you ever deploy Cfengine, well, you're all set to go. On the devel side, Talk to your developers, you may find they already are big Git users. --- On Tue, 12/7/10, Judd Pickell pick...@gmail.com wrote: From: Judd Pickell pick...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Versioning system - Subversion Vs. Git To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 1:54 PM I haven't seen anything in your posts that would indicate that GIT would be better than SVN for your needs, with the exception of the following: Basically all I need is a way to track updates and keep someone from over writing someone else's changes. Subversion does locking and the pre-commit hooks can be useful too. Obviously there is no absolutely certain way to prevent someone from overwriting another person's changes. However with GIT you would get a more comprehensive way to compare and evaluate changes to figure out how to solve the issue when such things happen. I prefer SVN myself, but only more for familiarity than any other reason. This is Git's real strength because your developers will all be peers - one of the reasons I think Linus wrote git the way he did was so that each developer would have a Linux repository, first class and real, and that the Linux kernel as most of us know it is really just Linus's Linux repo. So he can retire anytime he wants. ;) Ed --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
PLUGdevel meeting times and location update - will post to site soon(ish)
I contacted Rebecca regarding PLUGdev meetings at UAT and we have new digs for 2011! - thx Trudy I'll fix the site before the PLUGeast meeting, see you there - Ed -- Forwarded Message From: Trudy Wallingford twallingf...@uat.edu Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 11:49:44 -0700 To: Rebecca Whitehead rwhit...@uat.edu Subject: RE: UAT follow up Hi Rebecca, Room 203 or the theater are not available, however room 208 is available. I have reserved room 208 from 7:30 p.m. - 9:00 p.m. for the following dates: 1/6/11 2/3/11 3/3/11 4/7/11 5/5/11 Thanks! Trudy Wallingford --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Booting from a USB Drive
Around the Holidays it amazes me how many drives need swapping! - just don't forget to image/ghost your Windows drive before putting your favorite distro(s) on it - if the laptop ever needs service, putting it back will save you a ton of grief. Happy Holiday Everyone --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Plug website down
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 7:30 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote: On 10/30/2010 07:18 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote: I don't think anything but the best, most state of art Drupal installation should be in place for a Linux group, but that's just me. I agree with this, as I expect most PLUG members would. Is this an impractical goal? Is there some reason it cannot be done? What would it take? Lisa seems to indicate that perhaps Hans needs to delegate some of his responsibilities, or am I reading her comments wrong? -- -Eric 'shubes' Hello All, The site is undergoing a migration to a new CMS, if memory serves, Drupal is not going to run the next www.plug.phoenix.az.us. Most of the problems regarding the current site are due to administrative cruft that has built up over the years - that and upgrading Drupal has never been an easy or simple matter. thus a further migration. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Books to learn Linux/Unix
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 5:27 AM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote: Back in the 90's I was in your same position. What I did was to load Linux on my main computer and use it exclusively. Depending on what you want to learn will determine which distribution you would load. For example - if you're looking to get up to speed on what is used in business Load your machine with Centos (Free Redhat Enterprise Linux Clone), Suse, or Fedora (Fedora is close enough to Centos to be meaningful and works on more hardware). Welcome - you might want to get some experience before playing with Fedora, bleeding edge is not the best place to learn, but then Fedora won't put you sideways right off the line. So maybe it's ok. Slackware is a good place to start, simple stable and safe makes for a good learning environment (esp. for command line stuff). It has good man pages too, which you will be working with as you learn. You should expect to play with at least 5 different GNU/Linux distributions in the coming year - and learn why some say GNU/Linux and others just Linux, and some say Yum and some say Apt and some say configure/make/make install. what is your computer background? comfortable with the command line? remember DOS? Ever take a class in Anthropology... drop by gnu.org and freedesktop.org go see xkcd Debian is the totally open Linux and well worth a try. For more casual use you might try Ubuntu. Gentoo is another you might try. Linux is WAY more put together than it was in the 90s so you'll be amazed how often it just works without having to search for things like drivers, it has a ton software included you'd normally have to pay for that you can install for free, and runs better on the same hardware. For a less drastic move you could install Openbox or VMWare and install it in a virtual machine. In forcing yourself to use it as your main computer will get you up the learning curve faster because you'll run into hurdles and find how to move around them. It won't take very long before you're very adept with the distribution you've installed. At that point try a different one :) The main differences between Linux distributions is how their boot up processes are laid out, their package manager, and whether the distribution includes closed source binary blob programs or not. Anyway welcome to a new and exciting world :) JD On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 00:41, Brandon Hoffman brandonmhoff...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I recently just joined this group (like an hour ago) because I was posting on a forum about wanting to learn Unix/Linux and a passerby who decided to be nosy recommended me to sign up. I would like to learn as much as I can and eventually get some certificates for Linux and Unix (Windows-administration is way too easy.) What would be the top three-five books recommended for reading? I did look on the website and learned about Maricopa's college and will probably go there for a degree eventually, but I perfer my own pace and practice. Thanks ahead of time, I look forward to reading more on all the Linux discussions. I live in the east valley and will probably start attending the meetings as well! --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Books to learn Linux/Unix
http://www.linuxscrew.com/2009/12/21/best-of-linux-cheat-sheets/ On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:56 PM, Ed p...@0x1b.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 5:27 AM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote: Back in the 90's I was in your same position. What I did was to load Linux on my main computer and use it exclusively. Depending on what you want to learn will determine which distribution you would load. For example - if you're looking to get up to speed on what is used in business Load your machine with Centos (Free Redhat Enterprise Linux Clone), Suse, or Fedora (Fedora is close enough to Centos to be meaningful and works on more hardware). Welcome - you might want to get some experience before playing with Fedora, bleeding edge is not the best place to learn, but then Fedora won't put you sideways right off the line. So maybe it's ok. Slackware is a good place to start, simple stable and safe makes for a good learning environment (esp. for command line stuff). It has good man pages too, which you will be working with as you learn. You should expect to play with at least 5 different GNU/Linux distributions in the coming year - and learn why some say GNU/Linux and others just Linux, and some say Yum and some say Apt and some say configure/make/make install. what is your computer background? comfortable with the command line? remember DOS? Ever take a class in Anthropology... drop by gnu.org and freedesktop.org go see xkcd Debian is the totally open Linux and well worth a try. For more casual use you might try Ubuntu. Gentoo is another you might try. Linux is WAY more put together than it was in the 90s so you'll be amazed how often it just works without having to search for things like drivers, it has a ton software included you'd normally have to pay for that you can install for free, and runs better on the same hardware. For a less drastic move you could install Openbox or VMWare and install it in a virtual machine. In forcing yourself to use it as your main computer will get you up the learning curve faster because you'll run into hurdles and find how to move around them. It won't take very long before you're very adept with the distribution you've installed. At that point try a different one :) The main differences between Linux distributions is how their boot up processes are laid out, their package manager, and whether the distribution includes closed source binary blob programs or not. Anyway welcome to a new and exciting world :) JD On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 00:41, Brandon Hoffman brandonmhoff...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I recently just joined this group (like an hour ago) because I was posting on a forum about wanting to learn Unix/Linux and a passerby who decided to be nosy recommended me to sign up. I would like to learn as much as I can and eventually get some certificates for Linux and Unix (Windows-administration is way too easy.) What would be the top three-five books recommended for reading? I did look on the website and learned about Maricopa's college and will probably go there for a degree eventually, but I perfer my own pace and practice. Thanks ahead of time, I look forward to reading more on all the Linux discussions. I live in the east valley and will probably start attending the meetings as well! --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Cottonwood Question?
Sorry for the really late reply - you might want to look into Bulleri - they are a wireless Internet service provider over here in Prescott and I don't know if they service the Verde Valley. http://www.bullerinetworks.com/ On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:33 PM, mike havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: that would probably be me... is cox in that area or else who is the cable company up there? On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:10 PM, mike Enriquez myli...@cox.net wrote: Someone asked a question about living in Cottonwood and I lost that email. I have a ranch just outside of Cottonwood I spent summers and most of the summer up there. So if that person still has a question about Cottonwood, or PageSprings, or Sedona I would be glad to help out. Thanks Mike Enriquez --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
RE: looking for recommendations for web development companies
Good morning! You make an excellent point and do not sound negative to me at all. This is a 100% valid concern that we do need to consider as we develop our web front end. Even though our product is only used in vehicles (cars, trucks, ships, etc), the discussion is still important on principle. While it is true that the executive group and marketing are one driving force of making the site modern and flashy, there is a real element of making the user interface more intuitive and logical. We are introducing a large number of new, moderately complex, user functions with this release. We are trying to keep the user on one central page and have them use controls that are evocative of something that all drivers are very familiar with: a car dashboard. There are a few other factors that went into the decision making process that I won't go into to spare everyone additional boredom but this is not really just a case of Hey! Make this flashy! We are building smaller interface and lower bandwidth requirements into the model to support a mobile front end as well. Those requirements also could well support a screen reader friendly interface. Thank you very much for your insight. You have certainly given me some things to think about. Have a great day! Ed Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 00:37:32 -0700 From: st...@holmesgrown.com To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Subject: Re: looking for recommendations for web development companies I appreciate your interest in looking to the community for ideas for development support. However I am concerned about what you are seeking in your web design goals. I as a blind person, take particular exception to things like heavy animation and eye candy! Frankly, eye candy most often flies in the face of accessibility; that is, the more eye candy, the more flash and the more animation someone throws at a website the far less easy it is for a blind person to even navigate around on such a site. Sory if I come off negative here but I think there should be a lot more to a good website than just artistic beauty or cuteness. In fact, I'm personally studying web development on my own time since my recent lay-off but it is all being done on a LAMP type setup - Linux Apache, MySQL (actually postgresql in my case) and php so I can eventually become marketable with these newer more modern skills. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
RE: looking for recommendations for web development companies
The original impetus for this effort was two fold. 1. updated user experience since we are rolling out a much more capable site to replace a very simple one. 2. shifting our design methodology to MVC (Model-View-Controller) our programmers have all of the back end coding under control and we were just looking for someone to literally just build the front end in whatever tools and code that worked best. We wanted to avoid flash and that left us with HTML5, AJAX, JSON, javascript and everything you mentioned. When I think of non-proprietary development, I think of PLUG. I have met a number of very capable people here and wanted to meet my goals and support the local community at the same time. In all candor, we have gotten a good number of proposals for this work and when I compare the companies that were sent to me by the executive and marketing groups of my company against the companies/contractors that I contacted through my efforts here, the local community stacks up very well indeed. This group is full of very skilled professionals and I enjoyed talking with all of them. Ed Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:55:34 -0600 Subject: Re: RE: looking for recommendations for web development companies From: kfri...@gmail.com To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us I started following this thread late, but it sounds as if you are looking for a flex+rails type of setup. Am I reading that right? Rails is often thought of for ecommerce, and it is excellent in that role. When you step out of that role, role, rails usually falls apart as a desirable solution very quickly. One exception is as middleware for a client server app. The end client could be flex (aka flash), all fancy and user friendly. The interface would establish a connection to a server (secured if needed) and send messages as xml, or even better a json. The Rails server would then act in proxy for the client and obtain the result from your back end app. Rails would then respond back, probably in xml ot json. Rails is very flexible allowing additional functionlity as new controllers are added, or existing controllers are upgraded with new commands. Was that what you were looking for? Kevin Fries --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
RE: looking for recommendations for web development companies
not at all! this is exactly why I continue to subscribe and read the PLUG list after all these years. I have more of a sysadmin and networking background; coding is definitely outside my professional skill set but I learn a tremendous amount through the list and get exposed constantly to new (to me) things that I can explore on my own. I understand what you are saying and I am indeed going to read up on Flex. I am not a professional programmer but it helps me in my job to have as wide a view as possible of the issues they face and the tools they have available to move the effort forward. Thanks! Ed Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 11:18:30 -0600 Subject: Re: RE: looking for recommendations for web development companies From: kfri...@gmail.com To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Ok, so I wasn't far off at all. Take a look at Rails as a middleware, its often overlooked in this role. Flex is sotra flash on steroids. But if you have an aversion to that, ajax, json, etc can be substituted. What I was suggesting was not to write your app in Ruby, it was to use rails to handle the communications with your end clients. You could even have multiple clients, using different technologies, and even different communication protocols by using Rails as a muddleware. Just trying ti give you ideas to resolve your development design. Kevin Fries --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Web site links [was Re: Looking for October presenters for PLUGdev]
If there was a Bookmarks section on the site, it'd be nice if the content was also available for downloading in an html format that'd be suitable for importing into Firefox (and perhaps other FOSS browsers). Just a thought. -- -Eric 'shubes' A list of RSS feeds would also be nice - they should be packaged as an OPML file which can be imported into most RSS readers. Since the site is in the process of renovation, these (lists that get packaged) should be added to the feature request list once the new server is up and running well. btw - thx Brian Ed --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: android 2.2.1 changelog?
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:25 AM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote: moin moin, android is being annoyingly insistent that I update to the new release, but I haven't been able to find a changelog on what's updated and why I would want to accept it. I have found pages saying that it fixes the bug some one touch root mechanism uses to root the phone. That does sound like it could be scary, but if so they should be shouting that they're fixing the bug and why it needs to be fixed. Apparently it also breaks some msft mail or authentication. I care not one whit about that. Others obviously do. So, why doesn't Google know what's in 2.2.1? :) ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/ http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # I only eat free-range vegetables that were hunted down and slain by # a member of my immediate family. -- der.hans --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss bad indentured customer, bad! - no cookie (remoover) :) --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: northern arizona lug--- NAiL
I would be interested - I'm in Prescott. We could meet in Jerome :) they do have wifi up there right? which Thursday of the week are you thinking about - I think I have the Third one open... Ed On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 7:06 PM, mz m...@infomagic.net wrote: On Wednesday 29 September 2010 16:06:48 Michael Havens wrote: I live in cottonwood. anyone around there want to get together? We could start NAiL The Northern Arizona Linux users grroup. Cool; huh? Seriously though anyone know of a users group up here? Does LUNA (Linux Users of Northern Arizona) still exist? They were centered in Flag. Mark Z. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Looking for October presenters for PLUGdev
n Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:53 AM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote: Am 26. Sep, 2010 schwätzte M Hoy so: moin moin, in the future I am interested in doing presentations. my main motivation is to work on public speaking skills. the only problem is I don't know what you guys/gals might want to hear me talk about and of course I would also need to have sufficient knowledge in that area. so anyway I'll be looking into this more and hopefully I can come up with something I feel I can go over in detail and still be able to answer those questions at the end which can be very unpredictable. Sometimes the appropriate answer is, I don't know.. A presenter doesn't need to be an expert in the topic. Sure, that helps :), but it's not even a loose requirement. The key is knowing the actual material being presented. Sometimes that meanѕ leaving out large components of a tool, but that's fine. Present what you know. There is a maximum time for presentations, but not minimum time. In fact, short presentations give us the opportunity to cover multiple topics and broaden the potential audience. BTW, I have had multiple presentations with much more knowledgable people in the audience. Those who've spoken up have always been helpful and improved my presentation. In some cases it was information beyond the scope of the presentation, but useful, so I let the audience participation run wild. In at least once case it was instant clarification of everything I said ( hi Russ :) ), but in the end the audience got a much improved presentation and I learned a lot. As the presenter it's your choice as to whether or not you allow audience participation during your presentation. I do and think that's better, but there is no obligation for other presenters. ciao, der.hans what hans said +1 What areas are you interested in? For example, I have been looking into the new system initiation process that in Fedora will likely replace sysVinit and Upstart pretty soon*. If people are interested, I can make a presentation that I think would make a good introduction, but I'm no kernel hacker so I'll be on a bit of a learning curve myself. As many can attest, a not all that unfamiliar location... PLUGdev presentations are typically informal, a relaxed chat if you wish. with pictures. and a topic. Sometimes canned goods too - if we're lucky. From a developers perspective, this presentation will be useful for those setting up daemons, among other things too. It all comes down to what you are experienced with, and what you are interested in - make a list volunteer! Ed *sooner than it should, but then that's Fedora for ya. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Alternative software request
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:19 AM, Tom Ostlund t...@ostlundgroup.com wrote: Thanks Ed! Looks like the perfect blend would be a local version of Knowledge tree and Gnome Tracker. and soon you will wanting your own personal ontology just a warning Too bad that KnowlegeTree is not open source. Look again Tom - it's GPLv3 http://www.knowledgetree.org/Main_Page Ed --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Looking for October presenters for PLUGdev
Hello All, The next PLUG developer meeting at UAT is looking for someone who would like to present on Free and Open Source developer tools, developer experiences or projects. If you have a presentation you would like to make at our next meeting please contact me or Paul. The meeting is October 7th. Thanks - Ed --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Alternative software request
OpenCalais.com will generate tags for stuff - but maybe not like you want. Have you looked at KnowledgeTree? http://www.knowledgetree.org/Main_Page I think the Gnome Tracker is meant to do the organizing, just without all that nice comfortable hierarchy. http://projects.gnome.org/tracker/ On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Tom Ostlund t...@ostlundgroup.com wrote: Hello All, I want a document manager application to replace Mariner's Paperless software for mac. It is the only piece of software that I have not found a replacement for. The program adds meta tags to pdf files for organizing into categories. It also constructs the entire chronological directory tree in MM DD format. www.marinersoftware.com has video tutorials that describe all the features of the software. I would love hear of any alternatives that users are aware of. Thanks, Tom --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT - Explaining periods of unemployment on an application
These are called yes answers, and for anyone getting a brokers license the trigger is arrest - so avoid getting paperwork if you can. Otherwise, don't leave it out. A yes answer is not necessarily a disqualification (felony financial fraud, ok yes - others, not so much). Other areas of disclosure include bankruptcy. The annual (for profit) corporation filing has a typical list of declarations - http://corporations.azcc.gov/filings/forms/cf0022.pdf On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 3:59 PM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote: I've only ever seen applications ask if you've been convicted of a crime never just accused. If the question is 'accused' I would check yes and write 'I was falsely accused and was acquitted' next to it; if there wasn't room I'd check both boxes. Alternately I'd cross out the offending word and put convicted and check no. Anyone fired for undisclosed suspicion of a crime who has been acquitted should sue the heck out of that company. I can see if you were convicted and left it out where that would be grounds but if you were acquitted it's a different matter. Accusation!=guilt. People falsely accuse people of things they didn't do all the time. Police mistakenly arrest and charge the wrong person for a crime they didn't commit (some even are put to death though those people ARE convicted). I don't think it's fair to ask if someone has been accused of a crime but it's fine to ask if they have been convicted. More direct questions like 'have you ever stolen' are fine with me too. On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 15:21, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote: The significance isn't the crime itself, that you were tried, or what the verdict was. The significance is you falsified your application by omitting the fact that it occurred. Lying about it (or anything) on you application is a term of dismissal. It's that simple. JD Austin wrote: I'm glad I don't work somewhere like that. If I was acquitted/exonerated of a crime I wouldn't list it on an application either! I can't think of a reason anyone would. If it was a crime I'd been convicted of that was later expunged I would list it though; perhaps that is what you're referring to? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Reverse Proxy
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Joseph Sinclair plug-discuss...@stcaz.net wrote: Depends on what exactly you need: Just a fast stable and secure proxy to load-balance and provide a secure frontend: haproxy (incredibly stable and fast, but only does proxy and load-balancing) Popular webserver that runs as a proxy and does SSL unwrap: Apache (heavy, lots of modules) NGinx (light, fewer add-on capabilities) Caching frontend to reduce load on your web servers: Squid (very heavy and lots of tuning needed to get it just right) Links: haproxy: http://haproxy.1wt.eu/ apache: http://httpd.apache.org/ nginx: http://www.nginx.org/ squid: http://www.squid-cache.org/ poundhttp://www.apsis.ch/pound/ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Frustrated - Weird problem
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Simon Chatfield si...@thechatfieldgroup.com wrote: Ok, I've got a doozy of an issue which has happened twice this week and is absolutely crushing to my clients who are in busy season right about now. Here's the issue... I have a beefy linux database server which runs both postgres and mysql. We just recently loaded mysql and putting it under significant load. Apperantly at random, twice the week (Monday and this evening) it appears to take the network down save for a single machine which we are still able to ssh into. There are 6 other boxes which we cannot ssh into when this occurs. Link light activity does appear to still be active on the network. The method for solving the problem has been to hard reboot this specific server and as soon as it goes down, we can access the other boxes via ssh and they start working again. When the box comes back up, we can then ssh into that machine and everything is good (until it happens again that is). After the reboot, there isn't much in the logs, but I see the log entry for the tech unplugging and plugging in the computer from the switch PRIOR to the reboot so the network link was detected and logged even though it was not responding to ssh. These machines are hosted down at i/o so a hardboot is causing us significant time to get a tech to handle it. Has anyone ever heard of a single linux box bringing down 'most' of a network? then reboot and the other boxes are then accessible? My client is at his whits end, and I don't blame him. However, I'm not even sure what kind of problem this is. hardware on that box? system configuration? a bad switch? Looking for ideas at least, and if someone has time and ability, I'd love to have someone on-site to help debug and fix this issue... Thanks everyone! -- Simon Chatfield Are the 6 machines actually crashing or are they loosing their routing tables - if the systems just got un-networked, see if/how the routing tables change - OTOH do you have avahi running? look for 169.254/16 IP addresses in the wrong place. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Which KVM switch do you recommend?
How about skipping the keyboard/mouse altogether and look at Synergy2 * or look into connecting the systems via VNC. *http://synergy-foss.org/ Searching for a new KVM switch to replace my 20-year old unit that still works fine and switches instantly ... however it has very old (pre ps2) keyboard ports that require adaptors and 9-pin serial ports that I don't know if they can even be made to work with new usb connected mice. Looking at the plethora of new brands and models is terribly confusing. shopper.cnet.com lists 278 different 4-port models I've looked into Tripp Lite, IOGear, Trendnet, Aten, Belkin, Linkskey, several models of each, and several more brands ... all under $60. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Seeking September PLUGdev presenter - 7:30 PM UAT 20100902
Hello All, The September PLUG Developers meeting is not that far away - September 2nd - and we are looking for somebody who would like to present - on your experiences developing in the Linux/FLOSS world - or on a particular development tool you have used - or on another development related topic. Just post to the list or send email if you want to present September 2nd or on another meeting, or have any questions. Meetings are at UAT 7:30-9:00 PM in room 203. Thx - Ed --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Sr. Linux Administrator Contract to Hire Position in Chandler, AZ
I think of it as OT just like question about windows are OT - or not that big a deal, if we get swamped then we could look into alternatives On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote: On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:44 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.comwrote: I do not know who might have the time, however job postings might be a forum? added to PLUG? Their currently is a job posting category on PLUG drupal. The ultimate would be an area were recruiters could put up a profile and list their current need. That would make it simple for everyone. Then there would be no need to be registered with multiple lists. But the sheer number of recruiters, job postings, (often Nationwide 2 month contract assignments. for instance), coupled with the need to control write access thwarth spam makes the jobposts forum problematic, since many don't know how to use the PLUG CMS. You might access the PLUG jobposts area pages via: http://plug.phoenix.az.us/taxonomy/term/4 Keith Smith --- On *Tue, 8/17/10, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com* wrote: From: Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com Subject: Re: Sr. Linux Administrator Contract to Hire Position in Chandler, AZ To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 7:30 AM Yes, they are getting crafty. I have been contacted by a great many hoping to get submitted to the Jobposts. Most promise a referral fee, however I never get any such followup, etc. It would be nice to see a few more lists: $1 = PLUG $1hackfest $1jobposts $1politics $1offtopic Just so everyone can communicate without a barrage of bullmerde? I will look into setting it up (I might actually have access [I have root on the server]). On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:17 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: this is an interesting first never did see a recruiter post here, just things forwarded from members... On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Dineshkumar Anbumani anbudin...@gmail.com http://mc/compose?to=anbudin...@gmail.com wrote: Good Morning! My name is Dinesh and I need your help finding people qualified for the position listed below, be it you or someone you know! I work for LGS Global, an established IT Professional Service Firm headquartered in Texas, dedicated to finding superior Information Technology Talent. We provide sourcing solutions to our nationally established Private and Public sector Fortune 500 clients. Our services are flexible by design and span a wide spectrum of industries and technologies. -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.ushttp://mc/compose?to=plug-disc...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Office: (602)239-3392 ATT: (503)754-4452 http://it-clowns.com http://it-clowns.com/wiki/index.php?title=Obnosis Faith is, at one and the same time, absolutely necessary and altogether impossible. --Stanislav Lem -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.ushttp://mc/compose?to=plug-disc...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Office: (602)239-3392 ATT: (503)754-4452 http://it-clowns.com http://it-clowns.com/wiki/index.php?title=Obnosis Faith is, at one and the same time, absolutely necessary and altogether impossible. --Stanislav Lem --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss