Re: OT: How to clear google's record of one's searches?

[Jordan Aberle]

http://www.google.com/support/accounts/bin/answer.py?answer=54052


On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Bryan O'Neal <
bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com> wrote:

> This data is not stored localy it is part of your google profile. Log
> out of google and you will see unadulterated search results (save for
> the regional profile you inherit with your ip and any data it gets
> from cookies)
> As far as clearing it from your google profile... I am not sure you
> can. I would have to hunt around.
>
> On 10/28/11, j...@actionline.com  wrote:
> >
> > Is there some way to clear google's record of one's own searches?
> > What records does google keep of such data?
> >
> > I've noticed that when I start to type a keyword or phrase into the
> google
> > search field, google drops down a list of what seems to be my own as well
> > as other searches.  Is there some way to clear all that history away?
> >
> > I have tried clearing my own computer cache, but google seems to have its
> > own record keeping on my searches.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Fw: How to Protect Your Password

[Jordan Aberle]

Don't forget to mix the advice with strong entropy!
http://xkcd.com/936/

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Dazed_75  wrote:

>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Larry A. Thiel 
> Date: Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:09 PM
> Subject: Fwd: Fw: How to Protect Your Password
> To:
>
>
> **
>
>
>** **
>
>
>
>  [image: []]
>
>
>
>
>   *Given the current climate re: concerns for computer and data security,
> I suggest you take this message seriously. This is for your own safety and
> security! If your workplace has been assessed and determined to be at
> a low level of risk, the following method is recommended to ensure no one
> can see your passwords or what you're typing:*
>
> [image: []]
>
>  
>
>
> For a moderate level of risk, this method ensures no one can see your
> passwords, what you're typing, or which website you're visiting. 
>
>  [image: []]
>
>
> For a high level of risk, this method ensures ultimate security: 
>
>  [image: []] 
>
> Be safe out there people!
>   PS  Anyone who can knit, here is new business opportunity!   
>
>  
>
> ** **
>
> *Time is like a river.  *
>
> *You cannot touch the same water twice,*
>
> *because the flow that has passed will never pass again.*
>
> * *
>
> * *
>
> ** **
>
>
> --
> 
> A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will
> be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
>
>
>
> --
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>
> The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions,
> that I wish it always to be kept alive.
>   - Thomas Jefferson
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Re: What are the most stable distros?

[Jordan Aberle]

If you need rock solid stability go with a unix flavor under a stable tree.

Linux does have the latest and greatest software but the words
latest/greatest  and stability don't always mix very well.  Choose one or
the other.

J

On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 7:35 PM,  wrote:

>
> What would this esteemed forum's opinions suggest are the top 3 or 4 most
> stable (different) Linux distros for personal use (not as a server)?
>
> While it seems to have been almost universally the case that the hundreds
> of Linux distros are continually competing to be the latest and greatest,
> most advanced, cutting-edge systems -- continually being "updated" and
> made ever-more glitzy and fancy.
>
> However, are there any distros that strive instead to be rock-solid,
> stable, steady work-horses ... rarely (preferably never) requiring
> "updates" just to add in more and more of the latest new-fangled whatever?
>
> Personally, I have preferred distros based on Redhat rather than ubuntu
> (Mandrake/Mandriva and PCLinuxOS).  I am interested *only* in a
> personal-use system mainly for work.  And I have zero interest in games. I
> really liked the KDE 3.5 system, but I detest KDE 4+ with all of its
> nuisance "widgets" and clutter. And I don't care for Gnome.
>
> Ideally, I would like a system that is as concise and non-bloated as
> possible. Every time I have done an "update" on every system I have ever
> had, it has resulted in a lot of nuisance issues/problems that have wasted
> a lot of time trying to sort out all those issues so I could get back to
> work.
>
> While I realize that the usual reply to a question like this is that
> *every* system needs to be frequently "updated" for security reasons ...
> that seems to me to be a needless nuisance. I have several older systems
> that have run efficiently and reliably 24/7 for years and have *never*
> been updated ... and I have never had a problem with them.  But they are
> now several years old and I would like to get something newer.
>
> What say you?
>
>
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Re: cube Farm Rackspace with link to video

[Jordan Aberle]

I'm sure it increases production, it's hard to surf the internet all day and
play games without walls to hide what you're doing. :)


On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Bryan O'Neal <
bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com> wrote:

> I have something similar but cleaner, neater, better looking, and it
> is in a room with just my team. I like the open no cube environment
> quite a bit.
>
> On 7/14/11, keith smith  wrote:
> >
> > I'm not sure I would enjoy that environment unless it is very social and
> > very fun.
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > Keith Smith
> >
> > --- On Thu, 7/14/11, Dan Lund  wrote:
> >
> > From: Dan Lund 
> > Subject: Re: cube Farm Rackspace with link to video
> > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
> > Date: Thursday, July 14, 2011, 5:35 PM
> >
> > Other than being the usual, the wall-less cubes are unique... well, for
> most
> > companies.
> >
> > --Dan Lund
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 4:37 PM, keith smith 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I think they are strong and come highly recommended, I was wondering what
> > people thought of the cube farm.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > Keith Smith
> >
> > --- On Thu, 7/14/11, Jordan Aberle  wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Jordan Aberle 
> > Subject: Re: cube Farm Rackspace with link to video
> > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
> >
> > Date: Thursday, July 14, 2011, 4:05 PM
> >
> > I have a few of my small business clients on rackspace, never really had
> any
> > problems with them.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 3:45 PM, keith smith 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brbaw3R6KGU
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
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Re: cube Farm Rackspace with link to video

[Jordan Aberle]

I have a few of my small business clients on rackspace, never really had any
problems with them.

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 3:45 PM, keith smith  wrote:

>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brbaw3R6KGU
>
>
>
> 
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Re: DefCon for kids

[Jordan Aberle]

DefCon for kids? Why?  Just take them to a regular DefCon...

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Kevin Brown  wrote:

>  Sounds like Cathy's daughter is the perfect person for DefCon according to
>>> Chris' "Why is DefCon like sudoku?" presentation earlier this month.
>>>
>>> http://mychildssuitcase.**blogspot.com/2011/06/**
>>> channelling-energy-of-geeky-**techy-kids.html
>>>
>>
>> There is a good deal of material presented at DefCon that gives
>> credence and lip service to breaking laws without consequences.  Youth
>> are already at a disadvantage since the human brain does not recognize
>> consequences until around 25 years old, while being required to be
>> accountable since the age of 18.
>>
>
> This sounds like junk science. Kids as young as 2 and 3 lie to avoid
> getting into trouble which suggests they understand consequences for their
> actions.
>
>  I would carefully counsel your daughters and sons about some of what
>> is presented, the current state of government surveillance in America,
>>
>> and exactly where and when they have encroached private property and
>> consequences.   A good example is the back page of 2600 magazine where
>> jail inmates are given free classified space to write desperately for
>> penpals from jail for such crimes.
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OT - Fun site to play with

[Jordan Aberle]

http://telehack.com/
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Re: [...] another new opening

[Jordan Aberle]

I might be up in Tucson this weekend, if so we should go for an easy bike
ride on the Tucson bike paths

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:08 PM, JD Austin  wrote:

> Do you have to use Solaris?  You'd have more luck with Linux; Redhat is one
> of the accepted Operating systems provided that you use the commercial
> version.
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 13:55, Mike Schwartz  wrote:
>
>> "FYI"
>> (see below)
>> ("Forwarded" by:)
>> --
>> Mike Schwartz
>> Glendale  AZ
>> schwa...@acm.org
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: 
>> Date: Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 1:14 PM
>> Subject: Help with another new opening
>> To:
>>
>>
>>  All,
>>
>>
>>
>> We have a client who needs to create a system that supports Solaris on an
>> i7 mini-itx Advantech motherboard.  All is well with the system other than
>> the video is not supported which means they need a new video driver.  The
>> board is an AIMB-270 and it contains an MXM 3.0 hybrid GFX interface . This
>> is Solaris 10 and Oracle will not support this any longer but the customer
>> needs to use it because it is government specified for security reasons.
>>
>> Does anyone have this knowledge?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Brad Waltermyer
>>
>> Manager of Recruiting
>>
>> 5270 North River Blvd NE
>>
>> Cedar Rapids, IA 52411
>>
>> Direct # 319-730-0715
>>
>> Toll Free # 866-326-6463
>>
>> FAX # 319-378-8457
>>
>> brad.walterm...@genovatech.com 
>>
>> www.genovatech.com
>>
>>
>>
>>  [image: Genova Tech-small]
>>
>>
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Re: Georgian woman cuts off web access to all of Armenia

[Jordan Aberle]

Pwned.

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:23 PM, keith smith  wrote:

>
> Entire country loses internet for five hours after woman, 75, slices
> through cable while scavenging for copper.
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/06/georgian-woman-cuts-web-access
>
>
>
>
> 
> Keith Smith
>
> 2 Chronicles 7:14 (New International) : if my people, who are called by my
> name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their
> wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and
> will heal their land.
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Re: how does one create a pdf of a scan?

[Jordan Aberle]

You scanner software probably has the ability to save the file as a
pdf.  If not download "pdfcreator".

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
> I have an HP photojet c7250. Any pointers or am I going to need to do it
> through my windows box? I am running uubuntu.
>
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Re: address bar addresses

[Jordan Aberle]

http://www.ehow.com/how_2272852_delete-address-bar-history-firefox.html


On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Dan Lund
 wrote:
> Hi,
> tools->Clear Recent History
>
> That should do it.
>
> Oh, Hi all.. I'm new (again) to PLUG.
>
> --Dan Lund
>
> On Mar 22, 2011, at 5:29 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
>
>> Whenever I type an address into the address bar it starts giving me 
>> addresses I had been to previously. How do you clear that history in firefox?
>>
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Re: email via linux?

[Jordan Aberle]

Thanks captain obvious. :)

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Kevin Brown  wrote:
>> Most IRC servers support SSL now.
>
> Which doesn't stop the channel traffic from being logged. Just stops someone
> from getting it that isn't one of the clients or IRC servers for the
> network.
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Re: email webmaster

[Jordan Aberle]

Domain Information
Query: adoos.com.pe
Status: Active
Registrar: NameAction Chile S.A.
Name Servers:
ns1.adoos.net
ns2.adoos.net

Registrant:
julian martinez

Administrative Contact:
Juan Enrique Sanchez
m...@nameaction.com


On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
> adoos.com.pe
> this is peru's version of craigslist. actually there are two. the first was
> giving me the connection refused error but I found the contact us link
> (how'd I miss that?) but adoos is timing out. wait. theres the
> contact us link
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Kevin Fries  wrote:
>>
>> What domain are you looking for?
>>
>> Kevin
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Re: email webmaster

[Jordan Aberle]

It's using adoos.net's nameservers so another good contact would be
the admin of that domain.

 Technical Contact:
  Administrator, Domain  hostmas...@adoos.com
  Adoos Classifieds S.L
  Calle Luis Garcia 5 1E
  Pozuelo de Alarcon, Madrid 28223
  Spain
  +1.6467067422  Fax -- +1.6467067462

They all seem to be linked.

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Jordan Aberle  wrote:
> Domain Information
> Query: adoos.com.pe
> Status: Active
> Registrar: NameAction Chile S.A.
> Name Servers:
>    ns1.adoos.net
>    ns2.adoos.net
>
> Registrant:
>    julian martinez
>
> Administrative Contact:
>    Juan Enrique Sanchez
>    m...@nameaction.com
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>> adoos.com.pe
>> this is peru's version of craigslist. actually there are two. the first was
>> giving me the connection refused error but I found the contact us link
>> (how'd I miss that?) but adoos is timing out. wait. theres the
>> contact us link
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Kevin Fries  wrote:
>>>
>>> What domain are you looking for?
>>>
>>> Kevin
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Re: email webmaster

[Jordan Aberle]

Whois the domain and find out who the technical contact is.

example:

(root@secksi ~)$ whois freebsd.org
NOTICE: Access to .ORG WHOIS information is provided to assist persons in
determining the contents of a domain name registration record in the
Public Interest Registry
registry database. The data in this record is provided by Public
Interest Registry
for informational purposes only, and Public Interest Registry does not
guarantee its
accuracy.  This service is intended only for query-based access.  You agree
that you will use this data only for lawful purposes and that, under no
circumstances will you use this data to: (a) allow, enable, or otherwise
support the transmission by e-mail, telephone, or facsimile of mass
unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations to entities other than
the data recipient's own existing customers; or (b) enable high volume,
automated, electronic processes that send queries or data to the systems of
Registry Operator or any ICANN-Accredited Registrar, except as reasonably
necessary to register domain names or modify existing registrations.  All
rights reserved. Public Interest Registry reserves the right to modify
these terms at any
time. By submitting this query, you agree to abide by this policy.

Domain ID:D4488916-LROR
Domain Name:FREEBSD.ORG
Created On:19-Sep-1994 04:00:00 UTC
Last Updated On:16-Apr-2010 00:24:31 UTC
Expiration Date:18-Sep-2016 04:00:00 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Tucows Inc. (R11-LROR)
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:tuHbzdTWLmystFVY
Registrant Name:THE FREEBSD FOUNDATION
Registrant Organization:THE FREEBSD FOUNDATION
Registrant Street1:P.O. Box 20247
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:BOULDER
Registrant State/Province:CO
Registrant Postal Code:80308
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.7202075142
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:bo...@freebsdfoundation.org
Admin ID:tuHbzdTWLmystFVY
Admin Name:THE FREEBSD FOUNDATION
Admin Organization:THE FREEBSD FOUNDATION
Admin Street1:P.O. Box 20247
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:BOULDER
Admin State/Province:CO
Admin Postal Code:80308
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.7202075142
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:bo...@freebsdfoundation.org
Tech ID:tuHbzdTWLmystFVY
Tech Name:THE FREEBSD FOUNDATION
Tech Organization:THE FREEBSD FOUNDATION
Tech Street1:P.O. Box 20247
Tech Street2:
Tech Street3:
Tech City:BOULDER
Tech State/Province:CO
Tech Postal Code:80308
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.7202075142
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:bo...@freebsdfoundation.org
Name Server:NS1.ISC-SNS.NET
Name Server:NS2.ISC-SNS.COM
Name Server:NS3.ISC-SNS.INFO
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
DNSSEC:Unsigned


(root@secksi ~)$

In this example your best bet would be to email bo...@freebsdfoundation.org.

-Jordan


On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Michael Havens  wrote:
> that sucks. thanks for the help is there anyway to find out how to send
> them a messagw?`
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Kevin Fries  wrote:
>>
>> On 03/16/2011 12:13 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
>>
>> how do you do it? i thought it was webmas...@xxx.xxx but I was wrong. is
>> it administrator or admin or something like that? what is it?
>>
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>> You are confusing standard practices and conventions with actual
>> standards.  Webmaster is just an email alias that can be included or not on
>> any mail server installation.  There is no standard that the account must
>> exist.
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Re: email via linux?

[Jordan Aberle]

Most IRC servers support SSL now.

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 7:51 AM, gm5729  wrote:
> Um, anything sent out in the open via email if it is NOT encrypted will be
> left on some places as it travels along its path. All IRC, IM, and mailing
> lists, groups, Usenet are open for the world.
>
>
>
> Hence the invention of GPG ;)
>
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> gk
> GPG -- C0380672
>
> http://gm5729.blogspot.com/
> Please use my Secure HIPPA, GLBA and PIPEDA compliant Web Gateway if you
> initiate an email communication to me and  you don't have an account with
> this email service. The link to this Gateway is on my Google Blogspot. The
> ability to include attachments is also possible.
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OT - Why I taped 200,000 hours of my son's childhood

[Jordan Aberle]

Interesting TED video:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/03/13/roy.tapes.childhood/index.html?hpt=T2
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Re: Hosting for BigBlueButton?

[Jordan Aberle]

http://www.linode.com is a good option as well.

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Alan Dayley  wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Crawford Rainwater
>  wrote:
>>
>> Alan and company:
>>
>> Linux ETC also provide Big Blue Button hosted as well if you (or others) are 
>> interested.  Feel free to visit our web site for some more details:
>>
>> http://www.linux-etc.com/web-conference
>>
>> I will also offer a discount for PLUG folks as well.  If there are any 
>> questions, comments, or such on this topic by all means email me directly as 
>> well as the list.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Crawford Rainwater
>
> Interesting offering, Crawford.  Thank you for the time to reply and a
> discount offer to boot!  I'll put you on my list of possibilities.
>
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Re: Free Shell Accounts

[Jordan Aberle]

woops wrong replies, ignore the health care stuff :)

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Jordan Aberle wrote:

> I'll ask a coworker tomorrow about the premium healthcare package he went
> with.  He's asian and extremely statistical.   I went with the HSA version.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Jordan Aberle wrote:
>
>> United Health Care
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 7:37 PM, keith smith wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the laugh!!  I needed it!
>>>
>>> 
>>> Keith Smith
>>>
>>> 2 Chronicles 7:14 (New International) : if my people, who are called by
>>> my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from
>>> their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their
>>> sin and will heal their land.
>>>
>>> --- On *Thu, 3/3/11, Jordan Aberle * wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Jordan Aberle 
>>> Subject: Free Shell Accounts
>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
>>> Date: Thursday, March 3, 2011, 7:21 PM
>>>
>>> I came across this site that is giving away free shell accounts with
>>> 250mb of space.  The funny thing is you can either make a small
>>> donation, have 4 people vouch for you on irc, or you can make a video
>>> of yourself dancing on youtube rofl.  Creative.
>>>
>>> http://www.shellium.org
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/user/OfficialSHellium#p/c/F1C0F642A93E822D/7/ibcVFr03eZw
>>> = dancing videos.
>>>
>>> If anyone is interested :)
>>>
>>> -Jordan
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Re: Free Shell Accounts

[Jordan Aberle]

I'll ask a coworker tomorrow about the premium healthcare package he went
with.  He's asian and extremely statistical.   I went with the HSA version.

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Jordan Aberle wrote:

> United Health Care
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 7:37 PM, keith smith  wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks for the laugh!!  I needed it!
>>
>> 
>> Keith Smith
>>
>> 2 Chronicles 7:14 (New International) : if my people, who are called by my
>> name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their
>> wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and
>> will heal their land.
>>
>> --- On *Thu, 3/3/11, Jordan Aberle * wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Jordan Aberle 
>> Subject: Free Shell Accounts
>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
>> Date: Thursday, March 3, 2011, 7:21 PM
>>
>> I came across this site that is giving away free shell accounts with
>> 250mb of space.  The funny thing is you can either make a small
>> donation, have 4 people vouch for you on irc, or you can make a video
>> of yourself dancing on youtube rofl.  Creative.
>>
>> http://www.shellium.org
>>
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/user/OfficialSHellium#p/c/F1C0F642A93E822D/7/ibcVFr03eZw
>> = dancing videos.
>>
>> If anyone is interested :)
>>
>> -Jordan
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Re: Free Shell Accounts

[Jordan Aberle]

United Health Care

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 7:37 PM, keith smith  wrote:

>
> Thanks for the laugh!!  I needed it!
>
> 
> Keith Smith
>
> 2 Chronicles 7:14 (New International) : if my people, who are called by my
> name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their
> wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and
> will heal their land.
>
> --- On *Thu, 3/3/11, Jordan Aberle * wrote:
>
>
> From: Jordan Aberle 
> Subject: Free Shell Accounts
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
> Date: Thursday, March 3, 2011, 7:21 PM
>
> I came across this site that is giving away free shell accounts with
> 250mb of space.  The funny thing is you can either make a small
> donation, have 4 people vouch for you on irc, or you can make a video
> of yourself dancing on youtube rofl.  Creative.
>
> http://www.shellium.org
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/user/OfficialSHellium#p/c/F1C0F642A93E822D/7/ibcVFr03eZw
> = dancing videos.
>
> If anyone is interested :)
>
> -Jordan
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Free Shell Accounts

[Jordan Aberle]

I came across this site that is giving away free shell accounts with
250mb of space.  The funny thing is you can either make a small
donation, have 4 people vouch for you on irc, or you can make a video
of yourself dancing on youtube rofl.  Creative.

http://www.shellium.org

http://www.youtube.com/user/OfficialSHellium#p/c/F1C0F642A93E822D/7/ibcVFr03eZw
 = dancing videos.

If anyone is interested :)

-Jordan
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Re: Torrent

[Jordan Aberle]

A .torrent is just a script file to tell bittorrent where to download
the file from.   It sounds like you need to read a bit how torrents
work.

-Jordan

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Eric - A  wrote:
> it's a *.torrent and it's 28kb and I can't play it from the desktop
>
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>> it?
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Re: Security-related question

[Jordan Aberle]

Entertainment:

http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/unix-koans/


On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Andrew Harris  wrote:
> Is the TFUG list exclusive to district 28?
>
> On Feb 22, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Jordan Aberle wrote:
>
>> Jim is from Tucson, sneaky...  I'm going to hop on the TFUG list for
>> retaliation. :)
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Andrew Harris  wrote:
>>> Maybe you should skip a month of rent for that.
>>>
>>> On Feb 22, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Jim March wrote:
>>>
>>>> HA!  OK, this is funny :).
>>>>
>>>> I got Wireshark working.  Cool.  I start looking at traffic going by.  I 
>>>> see various IP addresses being talked to.  OK...cool...go find out what 
>>>> the IP addresses lead to.  One of 'em leads to...FACEBOOK?  WTF?  I don't 
>>>> use it, I don't *think* anything in my VM uses it...and then I realize 
>>>> what's going on!  Heh.  Call my landlady.  "Hey, were you just using 
>>>> Facebook?"  "YES, HOW DID YOU KNOW THAT!?"
>>>>
>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>> So that's where the "extra" traffic is coming from all this time.  My 
>>>> friggin' landlady :).
>>>>
>>>> That's OK.  I'll just do my malware testing late at night when she's 
>>>> asleep :).
>>>>
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Re: Security-related question

[Jordan Aberle]

Jim is from Tucson, sneaky...  I'm going to hop on the TFUG list for
retaliation. :)

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Andrew Harris  wrote:
> Maybe you should skip a month of rent for that.
>
> On Feb 22, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Jim March wrote:
>
>> HA!  OK, this is funny :).
>>
>> I got Wireshark working.  Cool.  I start looking at traffic going by.  I see 
>> various IP addresses being talked to.  OK...cool...go find out what the IP 
>> addresses lead to.  One of 'em leads to...FACEBOOK?  WTF?  I don't use it, I 
>> don't *think* anything in my VM uses it...and then I realize what's going 
>> on!  Heh.  Call my landlady.  "Hey, were you just using Facebook?"  "YES, 
>> HOW DID YOU KNOW THAT!?"
>>
>> :)
>>
>> So that's where the "extra" traffic is coming from all this time.  My 
>> friggin' landlady :).
>>
>> That's OK.  I'll just do my malware testing late at night when she's asleep 
>> :).
>>
>> Jim
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Re: Security-related question

[Jordan Aberle]

The malware has probably reached Australia by now. :)

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Jim March <1.jim.ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sigh.
>
> I've looked the manual over for tcpdump:
>
> http://www.tcpdump.org/tcpdump_man.html
>
> I've tried the commands:
>
> ---
> jim@jim-lappy:~$ sudo tcpdump -s 0 -w -i file.pca host 10.0.1.4
> [sudo] password for jim:
> tcpdump: WARNING: eth0: no IPv4 address assigned
> tcpdump: syntax error
> jim@jim-lappy:~$ sudo tcpdump -s 0 -w -i any file.pca host 10.0.1.4
> tcpdump: WARNING: eth0: no IPv4 address assigned
> tcpdump: syntax error
> jim@jim-lappy:~$ sudo tcpdump -s 0 -w -i any file.pca
> tcpdump: WARNING: eth0: no IPv4 address assigned
> tcpdump: syntax error
> jim@jim-lappy:~$
> ---
>
> The man page doesn't give enough examples to tell me how to do this.
> Dangit...any idea what the exact syntax might be?
>
> WAIT, nevermind, on a hunch I tried using Wireshark with sudo.  Bingo.
> Would have been nice to know...sigh.
>
> Jim
>
> On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Matt Graham 
> wrote:
>>
>> From: Jim March <1.jim.ma...@gmail.com>
>> > jim@jim-lappy:~$ sudo tcpdump -s 0 -w file.pca host 10.0.1.4
>> > tcpdump: WARNING: eth0: no IPv4 address assigned
>> > tcpdump: listening on eth0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet)
>> >
>> > This comes closer, but...it's still listening on eth0.
>> > How do I point it to wlan0?
>>
>> The Fine Manual for tcpdump suggests the -i option.  tcpdump goes to the
>> lowest-numbered interface by default, which is sensible, but is not always
>> what you want.
>>
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Re: Security-related question

[Jordan Aberle]

Sysinternals can do everything you need, take a look specifically at Procmon
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals
TCPVIEW also.

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Jim March <1.jim.ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Folks,
> I'm trying to figure out what a particular Windows piece of malware does.
> To that end I built a brand new WinXP virtual machine via Virtualbox (Linux
> host of course) and then infected the virtual machine :).
> In Ubuntu (Gnome) I usually run the System Monitor toolbar widget set to
> display CPU, memory and network traffic.  In the latter I can see network
> traffic happening that I can't explain as being Linux-related, so it has to
> be the virtual machine (which has Internet connectivity via a NAT router off
> of the Linux host...in other words, guest OS traffic will be visible in the
> host Linux system.
> I need to know first how I can prove that it's the Windows XP guest OS
> that's doing the traffic, or which other processes are doing which traffic,
> and then if possible log ALL of that traffic (preferably using Linux tools)
> for a brief time period to a file for analysis.
> Any help appreciated :).
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Re: Unix admin traits. (humor)

[Jordan Aberle]

I read that on slashdot today, good stuff.

Veteran Unix admin trait No. 8: We know more about Windows than we'll
ever let on
Though we may not run Windows on our personal machines or appear to
care a whit about Windows servers, we're generally quite capable at
diagnosing and fixing Windows problems. This is because we've had to
deal with these problems when they bleed over into our territory.
However, we do not like to acknowledge this fact, because most times
Windows doesn't subscribe to the same deeply logical foundations as
Unix, and that bothers us. See traits No. 5 and 6 above.

On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Stephen  wrote:
> http://www.infoworld.com/t/unix/nine-traits-the-veteran-unix-admin-276?page=0,0
>
> --
> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from
> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.
>
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Fwd: Hurricane Electric IPv6 Update

[Jordan Aberle]

IPV6, YAY! :)

-- Forwarded message --
From: Hurricane Electric 
Date: Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 9:18 PM
Subject: Hurricane Electric IPv6 Update
To: jordan.abe...@gmail.com


* IANA IPv4 Exhaustion

At a ceremony held on 3 February, 2011 the Internet Assigned
Numbers Authority (IANA) allocated the remaining last five /8s of
IPv4 address space to the Regional Internet Registries (RIRs) in
accordance with the Global Policy for the Allocation of the
Remaining IPv4 Address Space. With this action, the free pool of
available IPv4 addresses is now fully depleted. To read the full
text of this announcement please go to:

http://www.nro.net/news/ipv4-free-pool-depleted

* World IPv6 Day

Facebook, Google (NASDAQ: GOOG) and Yahoo (NASDAQ: YHOO), websites
with more than one billion combined visits each day, are joining
major content delivery networks Akamai (NASDAQ: AKAM) and
Limelight Networks (NASDAQ: LLNW), and the Internet Society, for
the first global-scale trial of the new Internet Protocol, IPv6.
On June 8, 2011, dubbed World IPv6 Day, participants will enable
IPv6 on their main services for 24 hours.  Cisco, Juniper,
Hurricane Electric, and Bing have also announced their
participation.

http://isoc.org/wp/worldipv6day/

Hurricane Electric's open letter to Hurricane Electric Customers,
Partners and Managers of Interconnected Networks about World IPv6
Day.

http://he.net/news/Hurricane_Electric_Letter_Regarding_World_IPv6_Day.pdf

At Hurricane Electric, every day is an IPv6 day.

* IPv6 Deployment Growth
The global IPv6 routing table has passed 4000 IPv6 prefixes.

Of the 36820 networks in the world running BGP, the number running
IPv6 has increased to 3107, or 8.4 percent.

Source: http://bgp.he.net/ipv6-progress-report.cgi

* Hurricane Electric Updated Network Map
We've continued to expand our network.

Updated Network Map: http://he.net/HurricaneElectricNetworkMap.pdf

Hurricane Electric now has over 6000 BGP sessions with over 1600
IPv4 and IPv6 networks at 45 different exchange points in North
America, Europe, and Asia.

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Re: (OT) Need Some Expert Network Advice

[Jordan Aberle]

Have you tried this?

http://tinyurl.com/luwroy

On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Mark Phillips
 wrote:
> This is not totally off topic.Android is based on Linux;-)
>
> I need some advice from an expert in networks to give me some advice on
> getting my phone to make WiFi calls
>
> Anyway, I have a T-Mobile MyTouch 4g phone. It is supposed to be able to
> make calls over WiFi, which do not use an plan minutes...ie "free" calls. I
> depend on this phone for my business, and I have a wireless network at the
> office, so I don't have to pay for gillions of minutes. This worked great
> when I had my Blackberrys - I could talk all day in the office and not use
> any minutes. All of this is above board with T-Mobile - I actually pay a low
> monthly fee for unlimited WiFi calling.
>
> Anyway, much to my chagrin, I discovered yesterday that I had gone way over
> my plan minutes. I checked with T-Mobile, and none of my calls had gone over
> WiFi. The agent refunded all the charges for the over-plan minutes and gave
> me extra minutes to get through the rest of the month. She sent me to
> technical support, and we could not get my phone to make calls over my WiFi
> network. Even though the phone says I am connected to WiFi. So, I went to
> the T-Mobile corporate store in Fashion Square, and the manager (she has the
> same phone) and I tried to connect to the mall WiFi, and we could connect to
> the mall WiFi, but could not make WiFi calls. Same error - could not connect
> to T-Mobile network.  I then tried to make a WiFi call at Starbucks, and it
> worked! It also worked at Barnes and Noble after I agreed to the free
> Internet terms and services (didn't work before then).
>
> I googled for issues with WiFi calls with this phone, and found a lot of
> them. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. The error message that
> pops up says the phone cannot connect to the T-Mobile network. T-Mobile is
> aware of the issue, but does not have a fix or ETA for one.
>
> One posting had this to say about the WiFi calling.
>
> The WiFi Calling app is Kineto's WiFi Calling app branded for T-Mobile.  The
> WiFi Calling app is an implementation of 3GPP GAN, which allows something on
> the Internet to get into a cellular network and do stuff (in this case, make
> and receive calls).If you care to pull up the most recent version of the
> spec, linked above, you'll find that "registering" (ie, logging into home
> base) involves these steps (get a glass of warm milk and see 8.4.1.6) ...
>
> 1) Performing a DNS query to get the address of thing it's trying to connect
> to (if necessary)
>
> 2) Setting up an IPSec tunnel to thing resolved in step 1 (called a SEGW)
>
>  3) Resolving and connecting to (using TCP over the tunnel setup in step 2)
> yet another thing called a GANC
>
> 4) Sending the GANC a "register request", which includes your phone's IMSI,
> information about the cell you're currently connected to, or last connected
> to if no longer connected, and other stuff
>
> 5) Getting back a response that the GANC is happy with you and all is well
>
> I started to think that perhaps I have a router issue on my network. I have
> a Linksys WRT54G wireless access point going through a BEFSX-41 Linksys
> router to my cable modem. I checked the routers, and IPsec is enabled for
> both. The WRT54G uses MAC filter to allow only certain devices to connect,
> and WPA Personal, AES algorithm, and a shared key of 64 characters in it.
> The WRT54G says I am connected to the phone when I enable WiFi on the phone.
>
> This is a long way to get to my question...thanks for staying with me. is
> there a way to look at what the phone is doing when I try to enable WiFi
> calling to see where it fails? A wireless sniffer?? Does any of the above
> give you network gurus an idea of what may be wrong and if it could be in
> issue with my router?
>
> Thanks for any help you can provideI would hate to go back to a
> Blackberry as I really like Android now!
>
> Mark
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Another security related link.

[Jordan Aberle]

http://io9.com/5731328/10-devious-new-ways-that-computer-hackers-can-control-your-machines-or-fix-them?skyline=true&s=i
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Re: Condolences...

[Jordan Aberle]

I know it does.

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Technomage Hawke
 wrote:
> that goes to cruel & unusual punishment. it violates a constitutional 
> directive.
>
> anyway, this isn't a plug related thread so I am not going to take this any 
> further.
>
> -Eric
>
> On Jan 9, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Jordan Aberle wrote:
>
>> Needle is too easy, they should allow execution by starvation if kids
>> are killed.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Technomage Hawke
>>  wrote:
>>> whoa! thats one hell of a coincidence.
>>>
>>> still, what a waste. I hope they give the guy the needle.
>>>
>>> -Eric
>>>
>>> On Jan 9, 2011, at 7:03 AM, gm5729 wrote:
>>>
>>>> After spending 13 years of my life all over the state of AZ, and the
>>>> powder keg it has become the last 3-4 years. There is bound to be few
>>>> of you all who have friends or family that has been affected by
>>>> yesterday. I find it quite surreal that Christina was born on
>>>> 9-11-2001.
>>>>
>>>> My sincere condolences to all.
>>>>
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Re: Condolences...

[Jordan Aberle]

Needle is too easy, they should allow execution by starvation if kids
are killed.

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Technomage Hawke
 wrote:
> whoa! thats one hell of a coincidence.
>
> still, what a waste. I hope they give the guy the needle.
>
> -Eric
>
> On Jan 9, 2011, at 7:03 AM, gm5729 wrote:
>
>> After spending 13 years of my life all over the state of AZ, and the
>> powder keg it has become the last 3-4 years. There is bound to be few
>> of you all who have friends or family that has been affected by
>> yesterday. I find it quite surreal that Christina was born on
>> 9-11-2001.
>>
>> My sincere condolences to all.
>>
>> --
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>> http://gm5729.blogspot.com/
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Re: How to convert a pdf file to html ?

[Jordan Aberle]

Another option:

Submit the Adobe PDF as a MIME attachment in an e-mail message:

* For conversion to plain text, e- mail the PDF file to pdf2...@adobe.com
* For conversion to HTML, e-mail the file to pdf2h...@adobe.com

Jordan

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 7:00 AM, Jordan Aberle  wrote:
> Try this trick:
> http://labnol.blogspot.com/2005/12/convert-doc-xls-ppt-rtf-pdf-to-html.html
>
> "1. Compose a new message in GMail. (If you are still without a GMail
> account, request a GMail Invitation code)
>
> 2. Attach any PDF or Word document that you want to convert to HTML
> You can attach multiple files in this step by clicking Attach another
> File.
>
> 3. Enter your own email address in the To: box and click send.
>
> 4. You instantly receive a message in your GMail Inbox folder. Open
> the message and click the "View as HTML" link next to your attachment.
>
> 5. The contents of your attachment appear as HTML in a new browser
> window without having to download the file. When you're finished
> reading the attached file, close the new browser window to return to
> Gmail or Save the file to your harddrive."
>
> Jordan
>
> On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 4:43 AM,   wrote:
>>
>> Is there a viable linux utility to convert a pdf file to html?
>>
>> Or, is there a win app that is known to work with wine?
>>
>> Or, is there an app to convert a pdf file to an open office document
>> with rtf formatting retained?
>>
>> (I know pdftotext works for extracting ascii text only.)
>>
>>
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Re: How to convert a pdf file to html ?

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Try this trick:
http://labnol.blogspot.com/2005/12/convert-doc-xls-ppt-rtf-pdf-to-html.html

"1. Compose a new message in GMail. (If you are still without a GMail
account, request a GMail Invitation code)

2. Attach any PDF or Word document that you want to convert to HTML
You can attach multiple files in this step by clicking Attach another
File.

3. Enter your own email address in the To: box and click send.

4. You instantly receive a message in your GMail Inbox folder. Open
the message and click the "View as HTML" link next to your attachment.

5. The contents of your attachment appear as HTML in a new browser
window without having to download the file. When you're finished
reading the attached file, close the new browser window to return to
Gmail or Save the file to your harddrive."

Jordan

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 4:43 AM,   wrote:
>
> Is there a viable linux utility to convert a pdf file to html?
>
> Or, is there a win app that is known to work with wine?
>
> Or, is there an app to convert a pdf file to an open office document
> with rtf formatting retained?
>
> (I know pdftotext works for extracting ascii text only.)
>
>
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Re: uncapped bandwidth hosting?

[Jordan Aberle]

You should call cox, if the torrent is legal it shouldn't be an issue.
 You are paying for your bandwidth so...

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Brian Weaver  wrote:
> Here is a list of commercial seedbox sites, and there are many others.
> Perhaps something like this might work?
>
> http://filesharefreak.com/2009/01/19/complete-list-of-torrent-seedbox-services-part-ii/
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Technomage Hawke
>  wrote:
>>
>> is there anyone in the valley that can offer an uncapped fat pipe for
>> hosting a seedbed? I am starting to look at this as an alternative. it seems
>> cox doesn't like me seeding a torrent (even if it is legal). They sent me a
>> bitch letter about a possible ToS violation. Something cheap per month and I
>> provide the box.
>>
>> -Eric
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Re: OpenBSD and the FBI

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Entertaining video, it's a long watch but worth while:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4oB28ksiIo
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Re: PPC computer

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Disposal fees cost more than crt monitors are worth ;p

On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
> I tried takling a CRT to goodwill a couple of months ago. "We only accept
> flat-screens' they said.
>
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>> I'm probably going to get a  lot of flack on this. But sometimes
>> planned obselscence just has to run course. PPC went out like late
>> 90s. And there is only ONE distro I know of still actively or was
>> actually pursuing PPC of any sort -- Yellow Dog Linux. The audience
>> just isn't there for the effort to make a distro anymore.
>>
>> By at least moving to Intel like MAC and PC's have done you will give
>> yourself a fair shot at getting support and not having to try to
>> hobble together something. Goodwill used to sell computers and such
>> for pretty cheap. I picked up a monitor there, this was CRT days for
>> $10. That was 5 years ago in PHX. Businesses around tax time want to
>> spend the rest of their budget so they are likely candidates to get
>> something on the cheap or even free.
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Re: OpenBSD and the FBI

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A few words about Truecrypt.

Overall I really like truecrypt, of course there are risks when using
any kind of encryption.  If the volume gets corrupt the chances of
recovering data are slim to none.  An obvious easy solution is:
Backup. :)  The chances of a truecrypt volume failing as well as a
truecrypt backup volume failing at the same time are very low.
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Re: OpenBSD and the FBI

[Jordan Aberle]

It's good to have topics like these that invoke thought.

My 2cents:

I try to apply moderation in every way in my life, too much of
something isn't a good thing.  I think this idea applies to security
as well.  I'm not saying just moderate security, I think we all know
here encryption, in the end can be cracked.  If you invoke a high
amount of encryption (mixing encryption algorithms) the system will
take a significant performance hit.  This of course can be
counterproductive.  I've ran a mixture of unix and linux boxes that
host shell accounts for irc and the like.  These types of boxes tend
to attract the script kiddie types.

I have found the best approach is having multiple different forms of
security set at a moderate level, if one type of security fails there
are fallbacks.  By having multiple security mechanisms an attacker has
to make sure he takes care of all the different variables instead of
just one rock solid variable.  This takes considerably more time and a
chance an attacker will miss something.

In fact, I have caught a few people by purposely leaving something
obviously vulnerable.  They are able to get to a certain point but not
able to gain enough power to modify monitoring tools or log files.
This is a good way to get the bad eggs off of the box.

Jordan


On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 6:39 PM, gm5729  wrote:
> Okay I have been pondering on most of this thread the past few days.
>
> Then going back and reading the news reports and other URLS that were 
> provided.
>
> On the encryption side, let's make enemies now. Truecrypt is a PITA
> and very, very, very easily can damage encrypted data with the design
> of their open and plausible denialbility containers. The best
> mathematics teachers I had didn't obfuscate what the principles,
> concepts and abstractions of mathematics were. The presented it in a
> very simple manner of fact which actually lit a fire to want to learn
> more. I believe through my own personal tests/use that obfuscates
> encryption to the point that one wrong move and you lose the kitty.
>
> Now, for the second topic. Yes, I see a gross misunderstanding about
> pass phrases -- and entropy they need to create. Some of this is
> caused by developers themselves not allowing enough freedom of
> characters to be used in their programs. I had a key for example that
> was close to 300bits of entropy for a website. Firefox and Chromium
> were just about brought to their knees, much less my DSL connection
> having a cow or shutting down. Multiple that in your cache times just
> a measly 5-10 tabs and down comes your box. LOL. The "iron key" type
> usb keys that have buttons on them and AES encryption with salts plus
> add a time lock of some sort are sufficient for light weight travel.
> For a full on server or desktop experience it just doesn't work. I
> found a few applications that help increase entropy at a daemon level
> but are random enough to provide /dev/random the entropy it needs. One
> app is actually user and peripheral level exempt which would be great
> for headless servers it is called haveged. The other application which
> I did not try because I was looking for the type I first mentioned
> actually works on the noise of your sound card -- this idea was from
> whoever mentioned about tv cards. This application is called
> randomsound and is also a daemon. For example my:
>
> sudo cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail levels were < 60 when I
> did a pre-install check. Now my entropy_avail levels jump from 133 to
> 4000 every poll I make with the command above. You can see how if you
> are using encryption this will make for faster and stronger key
> enc/dec., and maybe someone can clarify but it would enable stronger
> and more secure connections of all sorts with any encryption.
>
> I was intrigued though by Ms. Lisa's "challenge" so to say that no
> matter what OS anyone is using pwn'g someones box is possible and or
> getting contents remotely from someones hard drives thorough their
> browsers is quite easily established. I would like some clarification
> if you not mind please.  I know about Java and Java Script issues from
> TOR use. Flash and Active X don't do any better at leaking "private"
> data. I use the word private laughing all the way to the bank. This
> country has never had privacy. If you have ever done any sort of
> family trees or genealogy you understand what I am saying. Perception
> is reality. What has changed is technology, how fast it can spread and
> amount of data in the smallest state possible that is available.
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Re: OpenBSD and the FBI

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704368004576027751867039730.html

<3 my DroidX


On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Lisa Kachold  wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Jordan Aberle 
> wrote:
>>
>> On another note:
>>
>>
>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9201281/The_clock_is_ticking_on_encryption
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Re: How to ssh copy a file from local to web host when logged in?

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Now we are getting into some fun!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICMP_tunnel

http://thomer.com/icmptx/


-Jordan

On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Alex Dean  wrote:
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> On Dec 20, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Matt Graham wrote:
>
>> This is really a terrible idea, and if you can transfer the files in any 
>> other
>> way, it's preferable.  But it does seem to work.
>
> Nice one.  A terrible idea, and a shining beacon of haxx0r 1337-ness!
>
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Re: googlemaps or mapquest

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Mapquest also has a lot of ads, yuck!

On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Stephen  wrote:
> The directions are less weird via Google from my expirence
>
> On Dec 19, 2010 4:56 PM, "Jordan Aberle"  wrote:
>> Google maps has the street view. You can see the prostitutes on the
>> corner. I mean.. nevermind.
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>>> mapquest has more recent satellite images than google maps. and I thought
>>> that image was universal off of the same server or something.
>>>
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Re: googlemaps or mapquest

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Google maps has the street view.  You can see the prostitutes on the
corner.  I mean.. nevermind.

On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
> mapquest has more recent satellite images than google maps. and I thought
> that image was universal off of the same server or something.
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Re: Tesla super computer

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Nikola Tesla was way ahead of his time, it's sad to know that he died broke. =/

On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>
>>>
>>> http://illyria.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=krajina&action=display&thread=22560
>>>
>>> Go to the afore mentioned page and look at reply 23. Interesting!
>>>
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Re: OpenBSD and the FBI

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On another note:

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9201281/The_clock_is_ticking_on_encryption
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Re: Looking For Software to Check A Hard Drive

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Use the manufacturer's diagnostic software, they all have their own.
Simply go to the website and click support, look for diagnostic hard
drive software.  Most of them require that you extract the files to a
bootable cd or floppy disk and run the test outside linux or windows.

If the hard drive is in warranty and it fails the test just give them
a call, they will give you an RMA number.

On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Matt Graham  wrote:
> From: Mark Phillips 
>> I have an older hard drive (WD1200VE - 120 GB) However, I would like
>> to test it (thoroughly, whatever that means) to see if it has any
>> problems before I use it as a backup drive.
>
> If you don't care about the data on the disk, plug it in, then in an xterm or
> konsole or screen session, run "badblocks -s -w -o badblocks.out /dev/sdd1",
> replacing sdd1 with whatever disk and partition# the drive shows up as.
> This'll do a destructive read/write test on all sectors of the device.  It
> will tie up the device, but all the other devices will remain usable, since
> Linux does multitasking pretty well in most cases.  You could add "-p 1" to
> make it do 2 passes if you really want to check it out.  If it does find bad
> blocks, you can pass the badblocks.out file to mke2fs's -l option, which could
> keep things usable.
>
> Make sure you get the device name right.
>
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Re: OpenBSD and the FBI

[Jordan Aberle]

First of all, I don't believe in bloated *nix installs, all my servers are
setup from the bare minimum, I install only packages that are needed for
that server's purpose.  I do agree, DNS is one of the weakest points when it
comes to security.  It also helps to run things on non standard ports.  If
someone does try an attack they will need to figure out what is running on
that port.  Disabling version replies is also very important.  It will be
tougher to run things like metasploit if you don't know the version of the
service running.  Packet filtering and IDS I take to heart. :)


On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Jordan Aberle wrote:
>
>> Passwords being the same? No, passwords being a word of some kind? No.
>>  All the passwords I use are a mix of upper / lower mixed letters, numbers
>> and special characters.  Brute forcing doesn't work worth a shit unless the
>> admin of the server is an idiot and doesn't enforce complicated passwords.
>>  Even WPA2 can be cracked with simple keys, some of the best rainbow tables
>> I have seen come from here: http://www.renderlab.net/projects/WPA-tables/
>>
>> <http://www.renderlab.net/projects/WPA-tables/>Also take a look at
>> Gr-Security.  I use hardened kernels, normal users can't  list /home or
>> directories like /etc, the root user can't modify log files without
>> recompiling the kernel and rebooting the server.
>> http://grsecurity.net/
>>
>
> Yes, I like that also, let's not check your squid version or other binary
> patch levels?  Did you all gcc or cc?  Do you install your distro (SLES?)
> with all the bells and whistles?
>
> Glad you are using good password management with truely random passwords.
>
> Is your DNS open?  It's completely pwnable.  Admit it; you are just another
> American caught in the NSA/DHS security matrix!
>
> And we are sure you aren't packet filtering BOTH directions?  
>
>
>> <http://grsecurity.net/>
>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, WAIT, let's be complete?
>>>
>>>
>>> http://theinvisiblethings.blogspot.com/2009/10/evil-maid-goes-after-truecrypt.html
>>>
>>> and:
>>>
>>> If you are found accessing anything interesting (via various MAE-West,
>>> Cable Company, Telco TAPS) from your so-called secure Squid Proxy in Dallas,
>>> (or if your email origination address is tracked for anything related to
>>> security and privacy  [like this POST   :( ], the government can trivially
>>> gain access [I can, 2% if all security professionals in the field could
>>> also, so why would the NSA/DHS not also be able to?]:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.saintcorporation.com/cgi-bin/demo_tut.pl?tutorial_name=Squid_vulnerabilities.html&fact_color=&tag=
>>>
>>> Of course you also have SSH on in Dallas (on a "secret" port, right?)
>>> http://www.madirish.net/?article=183
>>>
>>> And you ARE using a password you use on ALL the OTHER logins, right?  And
>>> it's a WORD right?
>>>
>>> And you did just open and read this email didn't you?
>>> http://unicode.org/reports/tr36/tr36-1.html
>>>
>>> [?]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Lisa Kachold 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You obviously have port 80/443 open?
>>>> And probably 53?
>>>>
>>>> I didn't evaluate your email header for your source IP and nmap you but
>>>> you might want to look at this:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.backtrack-linux.org/forums/backtrack-howtos/34939-my-metasploit-tutorial-thread-2.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Jordan Aberle >>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I prefer security at the router level, I drop packets from everywhere
>>>>> except for a specific whitelist I created, if I need to go somewhere
>>>>> (incoming/outgoing) I modify my protocol rules for specific addresses.  It
>>>>> is time consuming when you are starting from scratch but it's worth it in
>>>>> the wrong run.  I have windows boxes and linux boxes, my windows boxes 
>>>>> have
>>>>> never been infected since naturally all ad generated sites are blocked at
>>>>> the router level.  If I do online banking etc, I go one step further by
>>>>> connecting through a secure squid pr

Re: OpenBSD and the FBI

[Jordan Aberle]

Passwords being the same? No, passwords being a word of some kind? No.  All
the passwords I use are a mix of upper / lower mixed letters, numbers and
special characters.  Brute forcing doesn't work worth a shit unless the
admin of the server is an idiot and doesn't enforce complicated passwords.
 Even WPA2 can be cracked with simple keys, some of the best rainbow tables
I have seen come from here: http://www.renderlab.net/projects/WPA-tables/

<http://www.renderlab.net/projects/WPA-tables/>Also take a look at
Gr-Security.  I use hardened kernels, normal users can't  list /home or
directories like /etc, the root user can't modify log files without
recompiling the kernel and rebooting the server.
http://grsecurity.net/
<http://grsecurity.net/>
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:

> Oh, WAIT, let's be complete?
>
>
> http://theinvisiblethings.blogspot.com/2009/10/evil-maid-goes-after-truecrypt.html
>
> and:
>
> If you are found accessing anything interesting (via various MAE-West,
> Cable Company, Telco TAPS) from your so-called secure Squid Proxy in Dallas,
> (or if your email origination address is tracked for anything related to
> security and privacy  [like this POST   :( ], the government can trivially
> gain access [I can, 2% if all security professionals in the field could
> also, so why would the NSA/DHS not also be able to?]:
>
>
> http://www.saintcorporation.com/cgi-bin/demo_tut.pl?tutorial_name=Squid_vulnerabilities.html&fact_color=&tag=
>
> Of course you also have SSH on in Dallas (on a "secret" port, right?)
> http://www.madirish.net/?article=183
>
> And you ARE using a password you use on ALL the OTHER logins, right?  And
> it's a WORD right?
>
> And you did just open and read this email didn't you?
> http://unicode.org/reports/tr36/tr36-1.html
>
> [?]
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:
>
>> You obviously have port 80/443 open?
>> And probably 53?
>>
>> I didn't evaluate your email header for your source IP and nmap you but
>> you might want to look at this:
>>
>>
>> http://www.backtrack-linux.org/forums/backtrack-howtos/34939-my-metasploit-tutorial-thread-2.html
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Jordan Aberle 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I prefer security at the router level, I drop packets from everywhere
>>> except for a specific whitelist I created, if I need to go somewhere
>>> (incoming/outgoing) I modify my protocol rules for specific addresses.  It
>>> is time consuming when you are starting from scratch but it's worth it in
>>> the wrong run.  I have windows boxes and linux boxes, my windows boxes have
>>> never been infected since naturally all ad generated sites are blocked at
>>> the router level.  If I do online banking etc, I go one step further by
>>> connecting through a secure squid proxy via a server I have setup at a
>>> datacenter in Dallas.  If the government ever wants to monitor me I'm sure
>>> they can figure out a way but it's going to be a pain in the ass for them to
>>> do so.  Truecrypt is a very nice thing to have as well, it doesn't do it's
>>> job if you don't have your system to be configured to lock after a certain
>>> amount of idle time though.  The point of truecrypt is to make a person
>>> reboot the machine, at that point they are pretty screwed unless they are
>>> very quick about freezing the ram to extract the keys.  Even then, it's
>>> unlikely to be successful.
>>>
>>> Jordan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 6:07 PM, keith smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wonder where we would be today id someone had told our founding
>>>> fathers "get over it!" and they had said "Yeah your right." and had given
>>>> in. The government is here for us not the other way around.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Keith Smith
>>>>
>>>> --- On *Fri, 12/17/10, Lisa Kachold * wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Lisa Kachold 
>>>> Subject: Re: OpenBSD and the FBI
>>>>
>>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
>>>> Date: Friday, December 17, 2010, 5:13 PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 4:12 PM, keith smith 
>>>> http://mc/compose?to=klsmith2...@yahoo.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would not doubt somethi

Re: OpenBSD and the FBI

[Jordan Aberle]

I prefer security at the router level, I drop packets from everywhere except
for a specific whitelist I created, if I need to go somewhere
(incoming/outgoing) I modify my protocol rules for specific addresses.  It
is time consuming when you are starting from scratch but it's worth it in
the wrong run.  I have windows boxes and linux boxes, my windows boxes have
never been infected since naturally all ad generated sites are blocked at
the router level.  If I do online banking etc, I go one step further by
connecting through a secure squid proxy via a server I have setup at a
datacenter in Dallas.  If the government ever wants to monitor me I'm sure
they can figure out a way but it's going to be a pain in the ass for them to
do so.  Truecrypt is a very nice thing to have as well, it doesn't do it's
job if you don't have your system to be configured to lock after a certain
amount of idle time though.  The point of truecrypt is to make a person
reboot the machine, at that point they are pretty screwed unless they are
very quick about freezing the ram to extract the keys.  Even then, it's
unlikely to be successful.

Jordan

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 6:07 PM, keith smith  wrote:

> I wonder where we would be today id someone had told our founding fathers
> "get over it!" and they had said "Yeah your right." and had given in. The
> government is here for us not the other way around.
>
>
> 
> Keith Smith
>
> --- On *Fri, 12/17/10, Lisa Kachold * wrote:
>
>
> From: Lisa Kachold 
> Subject: Re: OpenBSD and the FBI
>
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
> Date: Friday, December 17, 2010, 5:13 PM
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 4:12 PM, keith smith 
> http://mc/compose?to=klsmith2...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
>
> I would not doubt something like this could happen.  Our rights are being
> eroded moment by moment.  If this were to happen, this would clearly be a
> violation of our Fourth Amendment rights.
>
> I just read an article that for the first time since the government has
> been wiretapping everyone's calls a judge said a warrant was required for
> every wire tape.  3 judges prior sided with the government and rules no
> warrant required for a wiretap.
>
> Now back to OpenBSD.  Why OpenBSD?  Why not Linux?  Or maybe Linux has been
> compromised too?  At least there is the hope that some wiz kid will
> determine if this is true.
>
> I know this list runs the gamut when it comes to political beliefs.  And I
> respect that.  I think one thing we can agree on is we need to be free from
> unreasonable search and seizure.
>
>
> 
> Keith Smith
>
> --- On *Fri, 12/17/10, Jordan Aberle 
> http://mc/compose?to=jordan.abe...@gmail.com>
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: Jordan Aberle 
> http://mc/compose?to=jordan.abe...@gmail.com>
> >
> Subject: OpenBSD and the FBI
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
> http://mc/compose?to=plug-disc...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> >
> Date: Friday, December 17, 2010, 2:37 PM
>
>
> Interesting information:
>
> http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=129236621626462&w=2
>
>
> Jordan
>
>
> It's actually a great deal worse than you might think.  I am sorry I am not
> at liberty to divulge the technical details but be advised that NSA and DHS
> "backdoor" access is available from IPSEC, JAVA, Microsoft Explorer and M$
> Systems, and all of the various means for which a standard BACKTRACK user
> could gain access [i.e. everything] without consequences.
>
> Be advised that EVERYTHING you type or do on your systems regardless of
> your OS, when logged into ANY browser, is completely available to any
> government staff.
>
> There is no privacy or security; get over it!
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OpenBSD and the FBI

[Jordan Aberle]

Interesting information:

http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=129236621626462&w=2


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Re: Is there something such as celluar wireless to connect with an ISP ?

[Jordan Aberle]

Aye, I have the Android 2.2 version, the wireless tethering just
works.  Maybe I'm suppose to be paying something extra but I haven't
had to yet.  I simply connect to the wireless network created by my
phone and I'm able to access the internet on my laptop.



On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Eric Cope  wrote:
> Android 2.2 has this feature built in. You can also tether by USB then share
> your internet connection. Sprint offers this feature as part of the data
> package. Other carriers like Verizon charge for it.
>
> Eric
>
> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Benjamin Francom  wrote:
>>
>> One solution you are describing would be  "Mobile Broadband."
>> Most of the major carriers will offer it. We used it several years ago
>> through Sprint. It was approx. $60/month, and worked well for a remote
>> office we had.  They have routers that support the cards as well.
>>
>> http://shop.sprint.com/en/solutions/mobile_broadband/mobile_broadband_router.shtml
>>
>> Some folk'll tether their phone for this type of service, and I've heard
>> Android's can create Wireless AP's on the fly.  As with anything there is
>> always the security aspects of these solutions to consider.
>>
>> -Ben
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 1:12 PM,  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, Maybe a little of topic but I 'd  like to ask,
>>>
>>> I know there's satellite ISP, you get a disk attached to your house
>>> maybe and you can surf.
>>>
>>> But isn't there a USB device that you can use with laptop to get
>>> internet connections. Is that cellular internet?
>>>
>>> What I'm interested in are wireless ways of getting an internet
>>> connection, other than being near a wireless access point of your own or
>>> someone else's (w/permission) access point.
>>>
>>> Thanks,  Lee
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Re: Is there something such as celluar wireless to connect with an ISP ?

[Jordan Aberle]

Android phone with an app called wireless tethering - it turns your
cell phone into a wireless hotspot that your computer can connect to.
You use the data/internet connection through your phone on your
laptop.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tethering



On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 1:12 PM,   wrote:
> Hi, Maybe a little of topic but I 'd  like to ask,
>
> I know there's satellite ISP, you get a disk attached to your house
> maybe and you can surf.
>
> But isn't there a USB device that you can use with laptop to get
> internet connections. Is that cellular internet?
>
> What I'm interested in are wireless ways of getting an internet
> connection, other than being near a wireless access point of your own or
> someone else's (w/permission) access point.
>
> Thanks,  Lee
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Plug website down

[Jordan Aberle]

I have tried to visit the website last night as well as this morning but
there seems to be a database problem.  It is saying 'mysql: too many
connections' but I tried accessing the website early this morning - I doubt
it was getting bombarded by millions of plug members. :)

Any eta?

Thanks,
Jordan
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Re:

[Jordan Aberle]

Correct, I had the preyproject installed on it but for some reason it isn't
something I can mark as missing.  I remember there is another application
that was just on it by default that I also activated.

On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Bryan O'Neal <
bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com> wrote:

> Missing cars as in you vehical was stole with your phone?
>
> On 10/23/10, Jordan Aberle  wrote:
> > Anyone awake that has either preyproject or the defualt app on their
> droid
> > something tracker?  Please bounce me the name, much appreciated.  Missing
> > cars suck.
> >
>
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[Jordan Aberle]

Anyone awake that has either preyproject or the defualt app on their droid
something tracker?  Please bounce me the name, much appreciated.  Missing
cars suck.
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Re: IPV6 Sixxs.net and Aiccu

[Jordan Aberle]

I use he.net for a tunnel and aiccu. I'm running Gentoo linux, everything
just works after adding ipv6 use flags and recompiling the kernel for ipv6
support.

Jordan

On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 2:54 PM, gm5729  wrote:

>
> Anyone have any experience with sixxs.net and aiccu? I've gotten part of
> box I'm on to respond to IPV6. However, for some reason I can't get aiccu to
> daemonize. I guess from my reading networkmgr is the only gui that supports
> IPV6 so I've had to drop WICD.Pretty much it seems that ArchLinux is not
> encoraging or using to much of IPV6. There are a few apps I can find but the
> rest are missing.
>
> [image: SigGK.png]
>
> gk
>
>
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Re: Removing socket 1156 stock cooler

[Jordan Aberle]

AMD stuck with the same general design over the years, why does intel feel
the need to redesign something that isn't broken?  Hey guys, lets try making
the round wheel into a square!

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Stephen  wrote:

> They never intended for frequent removal
> On Oct 15, 2010 12:03 PM, "Jordan Aberle"  wrote:
> > The more you add and remove the cooler from the MB the harder it is to
> work
> > with. I wonder about the intel engineers sometimes, this is really the
> best
> > they could come up with??
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 10:15 AM, John  wrote:
> >
> >> Okay, I see what my problem was even though it was turned it wasn't
> turned
> >> all the way where the round top part fit into the notch. I took a pair
> of
> >> pliers and turned it and the push pin freed.
> >>
> >> --- On Tue, 10/12/10, Brian Cluff  wrote:
> >>
> >> > From: Brian Cluff 
> >> > Subject: Re: Removing socket 1156 stock cooler
> >> > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <
> plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> >> > Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 12:35 AM
> >> > Those are relatively east to remove,
> >> > but not totally obvious how to do
> >> > it. The heat sync stays connected to the board by
> >> > pushing a pin between
> >> > the 2 plastic wedges that keep it connected to the
> >> > motherboard. To get
> >> > the fan off you have to turn the top that you pressed in
> >> > when you
> >> > attached it 90 degrees and then pull up it. That will pull
> >> > the little
> >> > pin back and allow it to be pulled free from the
> >> > motherboard. Just do
> >> > that 4 times and the fan should be able to be removed
> >> > fairly easy.
> >> >
> >> > Brian Cluff
> >> >
> >> > On 10/11/2010 03:32 PM, John wrote:
> >> > > Sorry, I should've specified it was the stock cooler
> >> > something similar
> >> > > to this.
> >> > >
> >> > > http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx?C=1417&ID=1960
> >> > >
> >> > > I'm thinking of sending the MB with the cooler
> >> > attached. I bent a pin on
> >> > > the last one even though it was toast already.
> >> > >
> >> > > --- On *Mon, 10/11/10, JD Austin //*
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > From: JD Austin 
> >> > > Subject: Re: Removing socket
> >> > 1156 stock cooler
> >> > > To: "Main PLUG discussion
> >> > list" 
> >> > > Date: Monday, October 11,
> >> > 2010, 5:24 PM
> >> > >
> >> > > Which kind do you have? They
> >> > come in a few different styles:
> >> > > http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Products.aspx?C=1417
> >> > > <http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Products.aspx?C=1417>
> >> > > On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 15:19,
> >> > John  >> > > >
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > I bought the
> >> > parts to make a new Ubuntu system. Unfortunately,
> >> > > the new power
> >> > supply was bad and I cooked my RAM, MB, i5
> >> > > processor, and
> >> > one other MB before I realized the PSU was the
> >> > > culprit. I need
> >> > to send everything back to the PSU maker. I
> >> > > removed the 1156
> >> > cooler once and it was not a pleasant
> >> > > experience. Two
> >> > of the push pins came right up but the other two
> >> > > would not and I
> >> > had a nasty time getting it off. I searched vids
> >> > > and they said to
> >> > use a screw driver but this didn't work. Anyone
> >> > > have a video or
> >> > an idea of how to remove the fan without using
> >> > > force.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
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Re: Removing socket 1156 stock cooler

[Jordan Aberle]

The more you add and remove the cooler from the MB the harder it is to work
with. I wonder about the intel engineers sometimes, this is really the best
they could come up with??

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 10:15 AM, John  wrote:

> Okay, I see what my problem was even though it was turned it wasn't turned
> all the way where the round top part fit into the notch. I took a pair of
> pliers and turned it and the push pin freed.
>
> --- On Tue, 10/12/10, Brian Cluff  wrote:
>
> > From: Brian Cluff 
> > Subject: Re: Removing socket 1156 stock cooler
> > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
> > Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 12:35 AM
> > Those are relatively east to remove,
> > but not totally obvious how to do
> > it.  The heat sync stays connected to the board by
> > pushing a pin between
> > the 2 plastic wedges that keep it connected to the
> > motherboard.  To get
> > the fan off you have to turn the top that you pressed in
> > when you
> > attached it 90 degrees and then pull up it. That will pull
> > the little
> > pin back and allow it to be pulled free from the
> > motherboard.  Just do
> > that 4 times and the fan should be able to be removed
> > fairly easy.
> >
> > Brian Cluff
> >
> > On 10/11/2010 03:32 PM, John wrote:
> > > Sorry, I should've specified it was the stock cooler
> > something similar
> > > to this.
> > >
> > > http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx?C=1417&ID=1960
> > >
> > > I'm thinking of sending the MB with the cooler
> > attached. I bent a pin on
> > > the last one even though it was toast already.
> > >
> > > --- On *Mon, 10/11/10, JD Austin //*
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: JD Austin 
> > > Subject: Re: Removing socket
> > 1156 stock cooler
> > > To: "Main PLUG discussion
> > list" 
> > > Date: Monday, October 11,
> > 2010, 5:24 PM
> > >
> > > Which kind do you have? They
> > come in a few different styles:
> > > http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Products.aspx?C=1417
> > > 
> > > On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 15:19,
> > John  > > >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I bought the
> > parts to make a new Ubuntu system. Unfortunately,
> > > the new power
> > supply was bad and I cooked my RAM, MB, i5
> > > processor, and
> > one other MB before I realized the PSU was the
> > > culprit. I need
> > to send everything back to the PSU maker. I
> > > removed the 1156
> > cooler once and it was not a pleasant
> > > experience. Two
> > of the push pins came right up but the other two
> > > would not and I
> > had a nasty time getting it off. I searched vids
> > > and they said to
> > use a screw driver but this didn't work. Anyone
> > > have a video or
> > an idea of how to remove the fan without using
> > > force.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: Removing socket 1156 stock cooler

[Jordan Aberle]

Welcome to Intel hell.

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 3:19 PM, John  wrote:

> I bought the parts to make a new Ubuntu system. Unfortunately, the new
> power supply was bad and I cooked my RAM, MB, i5 processor, and one other MB
> before I realized the PSU was the culprit. I need to send everything back to
> the PSU maker. I removed the 1156 cooler once and it was not a pleasant
> experience. Two of the push pins came right up but the other two would not
> and I had a nasty time getting it off. I searched vids and they said to use
> a screw driver but this didn't work. Anyone have a video or an idea of how
> to remove the fan without using force.
>
>
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