Re: HOLI-DISTRO Disco Party - Save the Date! 12.04.12
22 hours or days? On Nov 15, 2012 5:03 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com wrote: Well, I sure miss FreeGeek (and other Linux/OpenSource events) in Oregon! This one is only 22 hours away Anyone? -- Forwarded message -- From: Misty Fall mf...@freegeek.org Date: Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 4:58 PM Subject: [freegeek-social] HOLI-DISTRO Disco Party - Save the Date! 12.04.12 To: soc...@freegeek.org, regul...@freegeek.org Cc: paidwork...@freegeek.org Hello Free Geek regulars! Please join us Tuesday 12.04.12 from 6pm to 9pm at Free Geek to celebrate the Winter holiday as well as Free Geek's release of Xubuntu 12.04! We will have a fabulous taco bar and encourage you to bring side dishes or desserts to compliment. There will be a White Elephant Gift Exchange--for those that don't know a White Elephant Gift is something silly, re-gifted, or ironic that you already have wrapped up for a fun exchange, only folks who bring will participate. DISCO rhymes with DISTRO and well were gonna dress up in 70's gear and play that funky music, so come ready to groove! There will likely be Distro related games and of course all around fun. This is a big thanks for all your hard work Volunteers! There will be more details to come, please save the date and join us! Thanks! Misty the elf ___ Social chatter by people at and interested in Free Geek mailing list http://lists.freegeek.org/mailman/listinfo/social -- (503) 754-4452 Android (623) 239-3392 Skype (623) 688-3392 Google Voice ** it-clowns.com Chief Clown --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Time for substantive change.
Thanks no. And I find this inappropriate for this list. On Nov 14, 2012 4:17 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: The Declaration of Independence states: Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government. Over the past few days, petitions have been started in all 50 states to secede from this now marxist-socialist union. The rate at which signatures are being added to these petitions makes it very clear that this is no joke. Click the link below to sign the petition: - - - http://wh.gov/9mNz - - - Note: If you live in a state other than Arizona, google to find the active petition in your state. A petition is under way in and for every state. At this point, you only need to sign up with your first name, last initial, and zip code. It's quick and easy. Let your voice be heard. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Hard Drive Recovery
If you add silica packets or uncooked rice to the bag they will absorb moisture. As for pro recovery it's pricey. Data doctors is one of the few places I know locally that does recovery (drive platter transplant ect) On Nov 13, 2012 5:11 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: This is what I've done in the past: Seal the HD inside a plastic bag in the driest environment you can find. Leave it overnite in the freezer (there are other opinions, I'm just stating what/how has worked for me) Have a puter ready and much better if you can hot-plug the thing. Have enough space for the FULL drive and get ddrescue or dd-rescue (they *ARE* different, and I have to research it every time). Lite candles, do your prayers, find you a goat to sacrifice, pull the HD out of the plastic bag, wrap it in paper towel in case you get some condensation and go for it. Sometimes I keep it super-cool wrapped around some of those freezing gels. I have never used dry ice but I have thought about it. The explanation has to do with some internal tolerances being reduced to the point that it temporarily functions. I try to disturb the drive as little as possible during the copy. All this may be just VooDoo and sorcery, but again, it has worked for me. YMMV... ET PS: Free advice, can't sue me... :) Eric Cope writes: Hi all, I have a Western Digital 2.5 hard drive that spins up, but makes a terrible clicking sound at approximately 1Hz. The clicking is bad enough you can feel it when holding the drive. I did some reading on line, and its beyond my skillset. Does anyone know if affordable drive recovery? The data on this disk is not worth thousands, but may be worth 100s. Thanks in advance, Eric --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discusshttp://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: virus
nice kind of nulls that one out.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Sam Kreimeyer skrei...@gmail.com wrote:
Step 1:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSmbdwCVl9E
http://www.backtrack-linux.org/
Step 2:
Drop this in a shell (assuming the target can interpret bash) :(){ :|: };:
Step 3:
Laugh heartily and disconnect
Step 4:
Receive free silver bracelets from your local law enforcement agency.
For clarity, the above is a decidedly bad idea.
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Re: Microphone
Echo cancellation or some similar feature? On Nov 11, 2012 1:04 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Why does the microphone turn itself down after I make noise? How can I make the microphone volume stayu at one level? :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Microphone
NP! On Nov 11, 2012 2:04 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: A BIG thank you goes out to stephen who allowed me to use him as the guinea pig. Thanks buddy. Hopefully I can return the favor one day. Just let me know what you need! :-)~MIKE~(-: On Supig Nov 11, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I started pavucontrol and adjusted it and now it is varying but I neexd to test it with someone. Who wants to be a guinea pig? :-)~MIKE~(-: On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Echo cancellation or some similar feature? On Nov 11, 2012 1:04 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Why does the microphone turn itself down after I make noise? How can I make the microphone volume stayu at one level? :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: virus
Not only is it a bad idea from the damage done, likely to people who do not know better. but it is illegal. On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 6:08 AM, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote: how about lets not and say we did. frankly, this is either silly or a joke in very poor taste. If you are being serious, then you deserve whatever you get. I spend entirely too much time trying to disinfect machines on account of clueless user actions. the pay is good, but I grow tired of having to have to educate these users time and again. so, I ask that you PLEASE think about you are asking. eric oyen (member of the Technomage Order of the Hawke) On Nov 9, 2012, at 5:54 AM, Michael Havens wrote: could someone send me a virus that I could 'share' with all the thieves that try to scam me? :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Spam control? (was RE: virus)
Rusty, how did tarpit and that delay time effect non spam users? On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Carruth, Rusty rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com wrote: Some time back I thought the best solution would be to form a co-op. Members of the co-op would run some sort of program to detect spammers, and then join together in a DOS attack on the spammer's MTA. Detection should be pretty easy, I'd think, with minimal false positives. When I thought of that, it wasn't illegal. It is now, so I've dropped thinking about it, but it would have reduced the spam. Of course, the collateral damage (to clueless users whose machines had been 0wn3d, as a minimum) would have been pretty high, and I'm not sure they would have been able to figure out why their systems broke down. Probably would have required a pretty big education program, as it were, to get people to either (1) stop using the primary virus propagator of the universe (I am, of course, referring to a certain operating system); (2) get off the internet; or, (3) keep their virus scanners up to date. Assuming, of course, that most spam comes from 0wn3d machines. Not sure that's a valid assumption. I've tried running that thing that keeps spammers busy trying to deliver the email (tarpit? I cannot remember - the idea is you keep telling unknown MTAs 'hold on a moment' for a while - say an hour or more, thus keeping their delivery rate low. I should mention that at home I run my own MTA, so it was an option for me. Anybody using their ISP's MTA (or gmail, or...) cannot do this). The problem is that you need a LOT of people running that for it to do much good in spam reduction overall, and I don't' know if it reduced mine (but it was satisfying to look at the headers and see that couple of hour delay). I finally gave up and just kept changing my email address (and I also used the spam detector in my email program). Rusty -Original Message- On 11/09/2012 05:54 AM, Michael Havens wrote: could someone send me a virus that I could 'share' with all the thieves that try to scam me? :-)~MIKE~(-: Not a prudent approach. What goes around comes around. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: google voice/video vs skype
fooling about the google hangout made my skype experience feel like Fischer Price toys... On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Daniel Stasinski dan...@genericinbox.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Yes I did do a websearch but I also want the opinipions of others. From the articles I've read it seems skype is better. But which uses more resources? Is skype really better? Let's start a discussion! I can't recall the exact numbers but in my own usage, Google Voice video used significantly less bandwidth than Skype video. Less than half. I have no idea about system resource usage though. Daniel -- | --- | Daniel P. Stasinski | dan...@genericinbox.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Crossover Linux free on Wednesday
There are some advantages to both depending on what you need. for most desktop needs a VM will work well and be rather easy. For anything that needs more hardware interaction then wine is going to be what you need to work with. so for me i have a VM and then i game via wine. but soon... steamforlinux :-) On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Carruth, Rusty rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com wrote: Whoa, only $60 normally anyway. I may download the free version then donate something to them later… Or point my company at them to buy some copies, or something. Rusty --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: linux based network/shared drive
I would rake a look at webmin's samba configuration. On Oct 23, 2012 6:32 PM, Josh Coffman joshcoff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I need to setup a shared network drive in linux in an otherwise windows environment. (To get around a windows size limit) I know about Samba, and that it's often been a pain for me. Are there any other options or easy ways to set up a network drive using CentOS or something else? I'm guessing they'll want windows authentication, but I haven't asked the question yet. Thanks, -josh --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Question about linux and AMD based chipsets/onboard raid
No onboard/AMD video. Just the 550ti nvidia gpu On Oct 22, 2012 7:32 PM, James Crawford jre...@gmail.com wrote: Question, Is the video one of the older/non supported AMD chipsets (HD 4000 and older)? Are you using Catalyst driver? If yes to both then see http://www.unixmen.com/ubuntu-** 12-10-and-amd-catalyst-**problem-solved/http://www.unixmen.com/ubuntu-12-10-and-amd-catalyst-problem-solved/ It sounds like this may be what you are running into. James C. --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discusshttp://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Question about linux and AMD based chipsets/onboard raid
So after 0ing my drive, removing all other drives and still gettign no results i gave up on 12.04 install media. also having a failure wiht dist-upgradeing from 10.04 once it went to 12.04 i tried a 11.04 server install media. dist upgrade it to current and was still able to boot. sheesh do not try this hardware combination. it has officially earned PITA status. new hiccup. I cannot get it to boot smoothly without intervention. if i let it boot (still entirely on its own drive) it gets out of grub and sits at a black screen. if i choose recovery then normal boot its fine. even after turning on lightDM. fun thing is i am not sure what i would be looking for on this. suggestions would be appreciated certainly. On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Funny thing is 10.10, 11.4, and 11.10 were fine with the array's in place once 12.4 made the rounds it fell over. If i knew more about grub and udev i could probably bring it back up. On Oct 18, 2012 7:28 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com wrote: H, that should have been good enough, but I guess they could have put it in the middle. It's not unheard of. Like I said, something is triggering that device mapper on your drive, so there has to be something on the drive that it likes. Brian Cluff On 10/18/2012 07:04 PM, Stephen wrote: Generally i run the quick zero which is the first and last 300mb i hiess the next step is finding a home for the data and the 10+ hours to zero the long way. On Oct 18, 2012 6:45 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com mailto:br...@snaptek.com wrote: Did you zero the drive all the way to the end, or just the first part. Also maybe you zeroed the partition and not the drive? Many of the raid superblocks are at the very end of the drive, and it would still be catching them if you haven't done the whole thing. I really think this is whats happening since the Device Mapper is trying to grab hold of it. Brian Cluff On 10/18/2012 12:50 PM, Stephen wrote: well 4 of the 6 drives involved are actively part of a raid. the one i am using for Linux was already 0ed for that very reason, i do still have a usb HDD still attached so i will try disconnecting that. odd thing is i was able to boot a 10.10x64 no issue and installed there and have been doing dist-upgrades to current. i will take a 2nd look but its is really puzzling. I will certainly have to keep an eye out. I haven't even figured out how i'm going to configure grub yet to get multiple boot set up. i may leave it ghetto and just use bios. On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com mailto:br...@snaptek.com wrote: The fact that the device mapper is getting involved with the drive leads me to believe that the drive was part of a raid, or at least configured by your raid controller at one time and there is now a superblock on it that is messing up everything. You'll probably need to zero out that superblock before things will start to behave correctly. Brian Cluff On 10/17/2012 07:42 PM, Stephen wrote: I have an AMD based chiset and i am trying to get ubuntu to boot right now and it is stalling, and i am having trouble ironing out what is going on. I have onbaord raid drives attached to the onboard raid chipset (SB710) however i am not intending to install to those drives the drive i wish to install to is actually a SATA connected single drive but i am having the worst time getting Ubuntu 12.04 to even finish its boot cycle. and im not getting allot of feedback. The errors i am getting are ata_id[336]: HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed for '/dev/sdb': Invalid argument - this is with all Raid disks disconnected and raid turned off in bios. just a single SATA HDD I get one of the two following errors if i have raid disks attached A similar entry as above comes up or i get udevd[167] inotify_add_watch(6, /dev/dm-1, 10) failed: No Such file or directory the most promising option i have so far is booting with nodmraid but it seems to just hang and go no place after detecting my CDrom devices This is rather perplexing overall. Ideally i would like my 2
Re: Question about linux and AMD based chipsets/onboard raid
and i forget the most important thing, this seems to be graphical only. if i try i can ssh intot he box from the outside. so the machine is booting, it just doesn't seem to like the graphical part of the boot process. On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: So after 0ing my drive, removing all other drives and still gettign no results i gave up on 12.04 install media. also having a failure wiht dist-upgradeing from 10.04 once it went to 12.04 i tried a 11.04 server install media. dist upgrade it to current and was still able to boot. sheesh do not try this hardware combination. it has officially earned PITA status. new hiccup. I cannot get it to boot smoothly without intervention. if i let it boot (still entirely on its own drive) it gets out of grub and sits at a black screen. if i choose recovery then normal boot its fine. even after turning on lightDM. fun thing is i am not sure what i would be looking for on this. suggestions would be appreciated certainly. On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Funny thing is 10.10, 11.4, and 11.10 were fine with the array's in place once 12.4 made the rounds it fell over. If i knew more about grub and udev i could probably bring it back up. On Oct 18, 2012 7:28 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com wrote: H, that should have been good enough, but I guess they could have put it in the middle. It's not unheard of. Like I said, something is triggering that device mapper on your drive, so there has to be something on the drive that it likes. Brian Cluff On 10/18/2012 07:04 PM, Stephen wrote: Generally i run the quick zero which is the first and last 300mb i hiess the next step is finding a home for the data and the 10+ hours to zero the long way. On Oct 18, 2012 6:45 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com mailto:br...@snaptek.com wrote: Did you zero the drive all the way to the end, or just the first part. Also maybe you zeroed the partition and not the drive? Many of the raid superblocks are at the very end of the drive, and it would still be catching them if you haven't done the whole thing. I really think this is whats happening since the Device Mapper is trying to grab hold of it. Brian Cluff On 10/18/2012 12:50 PM, Stephen wrote: well 4 of the 6 drives involved are actively part of a raid. the one i am using for Linux was already 0ed for that very reason, i do still have a usb HDD still attached so i will try disconnecting that. odd thing is i was able to boot a 10.10x64 no issue and installed there and have been doing dist-upgrades to current. i will take a 2nd look but its is really puzzling. I will certainly have to keep an eye out. I haven't even figured out how i'm going to configure grub yet to get multiple boot set up. i may leave it ghetto and just use bios. On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com mailto:br...@snaptek.com wrote: The fact that the device mapper is getting involved with the drive leads me to believe that the drive was part of a raid, or at least configured by your raid controller at one time and there is now a superblock on it that is messing up everything. You'll probably need to zero out that superblock before things will start to behave correctly. Brian Cluff On 10/17/2012 07:42 PM, Stephen wrote: I have an AMD based chiset and i am trying to get ubuntu to boot right now and it is stalling, and i am having trouble ironing out what is going on. I have onbaord raid drives attached to the onboard raid chipset (SB710) however i am not intending to install to those drives the drive i wish to install to is actually a SATA connected single drive but i am having the worst time getting Ubuntu 12.04 to even finish its boot cycle. and im not getting allot of feedback. The errors i am getting are ata_id[336]: HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed for '/dev/sdb': Invalid argument - this is with all Raid disks disconnected and raid turned off in bios. just a single SATA HDD I get one of the two following errors if i have raid disks attached A similar entry as above comes up or i get udevd[167] inotify_add_watch(6, /dev/dm-1, 10) failed: No Such file or directory
Re: Question about linux and AMD based chipsets/onboard raid
GA-MA770T-UD3P and a GTX 550Ti On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 2:31 PM, KevinO ke...@kevino.org wrote: On 10/21/2012 02:27 PM, Stephen wrote: and i forget the most important thing, this seems to be graphical only. if i try i can ssh intot he box from the outside. so the machine is booting, it just doesn't seem to like the graphical part of the boot process. What motherboard and video hardware are you using? -- KevinO --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Question about linux and AMD based chipsets/onboard raid
0ing the drive was not a bad thing. When trying to mount it via rawdisk in virtualbox i was getting some odd errors and then i had some directories populate and it got strange from there. It also eliminated some errors so something was lingering someplace. Will know more about the splash screen when i get home. Thanks for the tip! On Oct 21, 2012 7:28 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com wrote: Aarrrg, sorry I had to 0 the whole drive without any payoff, I really thought that would yield results. As for your current problem, at the grub prompt, press e and edit the boot line, delete the words quiet and splash and then press CTRL+x to boot. That should allow you to see all the boot process in all it's glory including the line that it is getting stuck on. With any luck it's actually getting hung up on the splash screen itself and will just boot. Then all you'll have to do is remove those options from the /etc/default/grub file and then update-grub. If not, you should at least have a better idea of what to look for now. Brian Cluff On 10/21/2012 02:25 PM, Stephen wrote: So after 0ing my drive, removing all other drives and still gettign no results i gave up on 12.04 install media. also having a failure wiht dist-upgradeing from 10.04 once it went to 12.04 i tried a 11.04 server install media. dist upgrade it to current and was still able to boot. sheesh do not try this hardware combination. it has officially earned PITA status. new hiccup. I cannot get it to boot smoothly without intervention. if i let it boot (still entirely on its own drive) it gets out of grub and sits at a black screen. if i choose recovery then normal boot its fine. even after turning on lightDM. fun thing is i am not sure what i would be looking for on this. suggestions would be appreciated certainly. On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Funny thing is 10.10, 11.4, and 11.10 were fine with the array's in place once 12.4 made the rounds it fell over. If i knew more about grub and udev i could probably bring it back up. On Oct 18, 2012 7:28 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com wrote: H, that should have been good enough, but I guess they could have put it in the middle. It's not unheard of. Like I said, something is triggering that device mapper on your drive, so there has to be something on the drive that it likes. Brian Cluff On 10/18/2012 07:04 PM, Stephen wrote: Generally i run the quick zero which is the first and last 300mb i hiess the next step is finding a home for the data and the 10+ hours to zero the long way. On Oct 18, 2012 6:45 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com mailto:br...@snaptek.com wrote: Did you zero the drive all the way to the end, or just the first part. Also maybe you zeroed the partition and not the drive? Many of the raid superblocks are at the very end of the drive, and it would still be catching them if you haven't done the whole thing. I really think this is whats happening since the Device Mapper is trying to grab hold of it. Brian Cluff On 10/18/2012 12:50 PM, Stephen wrote: well 4 of the 6 drives involved are actively part of a raid. the one i am using for Linux was already 0ed for that very reason, i do still have a usb HDD still attached so i will try disconnecting that. odd thing is i was able to boot a 10.10x64 no issue and installed there and have been doing dist-upgrades to current. i will take a 2nd look but its is really puzzling. I will certainly have to keep an eye out. I haven't even figured out how i'm going to configure grub yet to get multiple boot set up. i may leave it ghetto and just use bios. On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com mailto:br...@snaptek.com wrote: The fact that the device mapper is getting involved with the drive leads me to believe that the drive was part of a raid, or at least configured by your raid controller at one time and there is now a superblock on it that is messing up everything. You'll probably need to zero out that superblock before things will start to behave correctly. Brian Cluff On 10/17/2012 07:42 PM, Stephen wrote: I have an AMD based chiset and i am trying to get ubuntu to boot right now and it is stalling, and i am having trouble ironing out what is going on. I have onbaord raid drives attached to the onboard raid chipset (SB710) however i am not intending to install to those drives
Re: Question about linux and AMD based chipsets/onboard raid
well it still stalls a bit, but it booted when i got home.not sure what thats all about but ill take it. On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: 0ing the drive was not a bad thing. When trying to mount it via rawdisk in virtualbox i was getting some odd errors and then i had some directories populate and it got strange from there. It also eliminated some errors so something was lingering someplace. Will know more about the splash screen when i get home. Thanks for the tip! On Oct 21, 2012 7:28 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com wrote: Aarrrg, sorry I had to 0 the whole drive without any payoff, I really thought that would yield results. As for your current problem, at the grub prompt, press e and edit the boot line, delete the words quiet and splash and then press CTRL+x to boot. That should allow you to see all the boot process in all it's glory including the line that it is getting stuck on. With any luck it's actually getting hung up on the splash screen itself and will just boot. Then all you'll have to do is remove those options from the /etc/default/grub file and then update-grub. If not, you should at least have a better idea of what to look for now. Brian Cluff On 10/21/2012 02:25 PM, Stephen wrote: So after 0ing my drive, removing all other drives and still gettign no results i gave up on 12.04 install media. also having a failure wiht dist-upgradeing from 10.04 once it went to 12.04 i tried a 11.04 server install media. dist upgrade it to current and was still able to boot. sheesh do not try this hardware combination. it has officially earned PITA status. new hiccup. I cannot get it to boot smoothly without intervention. if i let it boot (still entirely on its own drive) it gets out of grub and sits at a black screen. if i choose recovery then normal boot its fine. even after turning on lightDM. fun thing is i am not sure what i would be looking for on this. suggestions would be appreciated certainly. On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Funny thing is 10.10, 11.4, and 11.10 were fine with the array's in place once 12.4 made the rounds it fell over. If i knew more about grub and udev i could probably bring it back up. On Oct 18, 2012 7:28 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com wrote: H, that should have been good enough, but I guess they could have put it in the middle. It's not unheard of. Like I said, something is triggering that device mapper on your drive, so there has to be something on the drive that it likes. Brian Cluff On 10/18/2012 07:04 PM, Stephen wrote: Generally i run the quick zero which is the first and last 300mb i hiess the next step is finding a home for the data and the 10+ hours to zero the long way. On Oct 18, 2012 6:45 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com mailto:br...@snaptek.com wrote: Did you zero the drive all the way to the end, or just the first part. Also maybe you zeroed the partition and not the drive? Many of the raid superblocks are at the very end of the drive, and it would still be catching them if you haven't done the whole thing. I really think this is whats happening since the Device Mapper is trying to grab hold of it. Brian Cluff On 10/18/2012 12:50 PM, Stephen wrote: well 4 of the 6 drives involved are actively part of a raid. the one i am using for Linux was already 0ed for that very reason, i do still have a usb HDD still attached so i will try disconnecting that. odd thing is i was able to boot a 10.10x64 no issue and installed there and have been doing dist-upgrades to current. i will take a 2nd look but its is really puzzling. I will certainly have to keep an eye out. I haven't even figured out how i'm going to configure grub yet to get multiple boot set up. i may leave it ghetto and just use bios. On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com mailto:br...@snaptek.com wrote: The fact that the device mapper is getting involved with the drive leads me to believe that the drive was part of a raid, or at least configured by your raid controller at one time and there is now a superblock on it that is messing up everything. You'll probably need to zero out that superblock before things will start to behave correctly. Brian Cluff On 10/17/2012 07:42 PM, Stephen wrote: I have an AMD based chiset and i am trying to get ubuntu to boot right now and it is stalling, and i am having trouble ironing out what is going on. I
Re: usage tracking
Probably, I know smoothwall does this, but its its own dedicated distro. but that certainly means the tools are there, i just don't know what they are called. i think some google fu is in your future :-) On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Derek Trotter expat.arizo...@gmail.com wrote: My ISP imposes a monthly quota. If the total amount of data I download and upload exceeds that quota I get billed extra. Everything I send or receive passes through my full time linux box. Is there something I can install on it that would monitor and log how much data passes through eth0? thanks --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: The Great Shared Directory Dilemma
I have an Ubuntu Machine sharing out an ext4 share and it runs like a champ. However it is a completely unrestricted share and i cheat and use webmin to manage it. I like webmin because it doesn't do everything for you. it just breaks down config files in a nice way. but it was pretty handy. In my shares case i set the share to use a specific user for local file permissions then allowed guest access and it was a go. was very simple. On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Wayne Davis wayda...@centurylink.net wrote: Ever since I have started using Linux, I have NEVER been able to figure out how to share directories of different computers on the network. Ive wanted to share NTFS and EXT4 directories amongst several machines. Pointers anyone? I really need to resolve this as it is rapidly becoming necessary to do so. I am using Kubuntu 12.04 and Win7 machines (more than one of each) Thanks --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Question about linux and AMD based chipsets/onboard raid
well 4 of the 6 drives involved are actively part of a raid. the one i am using for Linux was already 0ed for that very reason, i do still have a usb HDD still attached so i will try disconnecting that. odd thing is i was able to boot a 10.10x64 no issue and installed there and have been doing dist-upgrades to current. i will take a 2nd look but its is really puzzling. I will certainly have to keep an eye out. I haven't even figured out how i'm going to configure grub yet to get multiple boot set up. i may leave it ghetto and just use bios. On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com wrote: The fact that the device mapper is getting involved with the drive leads me to believe that the drive was part of a raid, or at least configured by your raid controller at one time and there is now a superblock on it that is messing up everything. You'll probably need to zero out that superblock before things will start to behave correctly. Brian Cluff On 10/17/2012 07:42 PM, Stephen wrote: I have an AMD based chiset and i am trying to get ubuntu to boot right now and it is stalling, and i am having trouble ironing out what is going on. I have onbaord raid drives attached to the onboard raid chipset (SB710) however i am not intending to install to those drives the drive i wish to install to is actually a SATA connected single drive but i am having the worst time getting Ubuntu 12.04 to even finish its boot cycle. and im not getting allot of feedback. The errors i am getting are ata_id[336]: HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed for '/dev/sdb': Invalid argument - this is with all Raid disks disconnected and raid turned off in bios. just a single SATA HDD I get one of the two following errors if i have raid disks attached A similar entry as above comes up or i get udevd[167] inotify_add_watch(6, /dev/dm-1, 10) failed: No Such file or directory the most promising option i have so far is booting with nodmraid but it seems to just hang and go no place after detecting my CDrom devices This is rather perplexing overall. Ideally i would like my 2 onboard raids to be connected running windows and then let linux run amok on my extra sata hdd but it either is really pissed off in a way i cannot figure out or it really does not like that port. Anyone have any thoughts? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Question about linux and AMD based chipsets/onboard raid
Funny thing is 10.10, 11.4, and 11.10 were fine with the array's in place once 12.4 made the rounds it fell over. If i knew more about grub and udev i could probably bring it back up. On Oct 18, 2012 7:28 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com wrote: H, that should have been good enough, but I guess they could have put it in the middle. It's not unheard of. Like I said, something is triggering that device mapper on your drive, so there has to be something on the drive that it likes. Brian Cluff On 10/18/2012 07:04 PM, Stephen wrote: Generally i run the quick zero which is the first and last 300mb i hiess the next step is finding a home for the data and the 10+ hours to zero the long way. On Oct 18, 2012 6:45 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com mailto:br...@snaptek.com wrote: Did you zero the drive all the way to the end, or just the first part. Also maybe you zeroed the partition and not the drive? Many of the raid superblocks are at the very end of the drive, and it would still be catching them if you haven't done the whole thing. I really think this is whats happening since the Device Mapper is trying to grab hold of it. Brian Cluff On 10/18/2012 12:50 PM, Stephen wrote: well 4 of the 6 drives involved are actively part of a raid. the one i am using for Linux was already 0ed for that very reason, i do still have a usb HDD still attached so i will try disconnecting that. odd thing is i was able to boot a 10.10x64 no issue and installed there and have been doing dist-upgrades to current. i will take a 2nd look but its is really puzzling. I will certainly have to keep an eye out. I haven't even figured out how i'm going to configure grub yet to get multiple boot set up. i may leave it ghetto and just use bios. On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com mailto:br...@snaptek.com wrote: The fact that the device mapper is getting involved with the drive leads me to believe that the drive was part of a raid, or at least configured by your raid controller at one time and there is now a superblock on it that is messing up everything. You'll probably need to zero out that superblock before things will start to behave correctly. Brian Cluff On 10/17/2012 07:42 PM, Stephen wrote: I have an AMD based chiset and i am trying to get ubuntu to boot right now and it is stalling, and i am having trouble ironing out what is going on. I have onbaord raid drives attached to the onboard raid chipset (SB710) however i am not intending to install to those drives the drive i wish to install to is actually a SATA connected single drive but i am having the worst time getting Ubuntu 12.04 to even finish its boot cycle. and im not getting allot of feedback. The errors i am getting are ata_id[336]: HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed for '/dev/sdb': Invalid argument - this is with all Raid disks disconnected and raid turned off in bios. just a single SATA HDD I get one of the two following errors if i have raid disks attached A similar entry as above comes up or i get udevd[167] inotify_add_watch(6, /dev/dm-1, 10) failed: No Such file or directory the most promising option i have so far is booting with nodmraid but it seems to just hang and go no place after detecting my CDrom devices This is rather perplexing overall. Ideally i would like my 2 onboard raids to be connected running windows and then let linux run amok on my extra sata hdd but it either is really pissed off in a way i cannot figure out or it really does not like that port. Anyone have any thoughts? --**__- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.__phoe**nix.az.ushttp://phoenix.az.us mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.**plug.phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az._**_us/mailman/listinfo/plug-__* *discuss
Question about linux and AMD based chipsets/onboard raid
I have an AMD based chiset and i am trying to get ubuntu to boot right now and it is stalling, and i am having trouble ironing out what is going on. I have onbaord raid drives attached to the onboard raid chipset (SB710) however i am not intending to install to those drives the drive i wish to install to is actually a SATA connected single drive but i am having the worst time getting Ubuntu 12.04 to even finish its boot cycle. and im not getting allot of feedback. The errors i am getting are ata_id[336]: HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed for '/dev/sdb': Invalid argument - this is with all Raid disks disconnected and raid turned off in bios. just a single SATA HDD I get one of the two following errors if i have raid disks attached A similar entry as above comes up or i get udevd[167] inotify_add_watch(6, /dev/dm-1, 10) failed: No Such file or directory the most promising option i have so far is booting with nodmraid but it seems to just hang and go no place after detecting my CDrom devices This is rather perplexing overall. Ideally i would like my 2 onboard raids to be connected running windows and then let linux run amok on my extra sata hdd but it either is really pissed off in a way i cannot figure out or it really does not like that port. Anyone have any thoughts? -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Thunderbird trouble
awesome info, thanks! On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Derek Trotter expat.arizo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sharing this in the event the information may be helpful to someone else. Today for the first time since I had the problems with loosing my windows installation, I opened thunderbird and tried to use its chat option. The settings for a facebook chat account I use were gone. Then I went through the procedure to create a new account. I entered all the required information and clicked the enter button, but nothing happened. Here's how I fixed it. I backed up everything in my profile directory. Then I deleted everything except the mail directory. Next I started thunderbird. First it recreated a bunch of file in the empty directory. Then it asked me if I wanted to set up a mail account. I closed that wizard and tried to set up the chat account. I was able to. I went to this site http://kb.mozillazine.org/Files_and_folders_in_the_profile_-_Thunderbird where there's a list of the files in a thunderbird profile directory and what they do. From the backup directory I copied the files that contain the saved addresses (abook.mab and history.mab), passwords(key3.db and Signons.sqlite) and prefs.js which the site said contains all the mail server settings. When I started thunderbird, my email accounts were there and so was the chat account. It also let me add a new account. I looked inside prefs.js and saw the settings for the chat account. This tells me while prefs.js stores the account information, some other file is needed for existing chat accounts to be visible and new ones to be created. Goodnight --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: mouse inactive.
USB going to power save? On Oct 14, 2012 5:05 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Every once in a while I come back to my computer and the mouse doesn't work. Hmmm it is working now. Any idea why and how I can fix it when it happens again? :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: backup partition
Sadly Virtualbox can only allocare a maximum of 256mb ram to a VM for 3d acceleration, and it passes very minimal openGL. this looks great fro most things except most gaming. But there is hope on the horizon, Intel's VTd is making some good inroads to what we are after. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Derek Trotter expat.arizo...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Lisa. I thought about what you suggested, but I tried a couple of years ago and xp ran ok, but the games I tried to play on it didn't run right. Has virtualbox improved 3d support over the last couple of years? On 10/11/2012 10:08 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote: Run XP in VirtualBox on Linux. *Snip* -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: chrome vs chromium ??
Chromium is open source codebase behind chrome. So you will usually see it in Linux repos ect. On Oct 9, 2012 1:30 PM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote: If you can run chrome run that.. otherwise run chromium (which is just chrome complied for unsupported platforms usually). On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 1:11 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: What is the difference between google chrome and chromium? Which is preferable? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: What are these things?
They are to vround lightning On Oct 1, 2012 5:48 PM, Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.net wrote: I'm sure someone here knows what the antennae in the links below are supposed to be for. There are too many of them too closely spaced for a wireless network, they don't look directional, and they're probably not Alien Mind Control Lasers. Are they some sort of burglar alarm? http://crow202.org/2012/antenna1.jpg http://crow202.org/2012/antenna2.jpg http://crow202.org/2012/antenna3.jpg -- Matt G / Dances With Crows The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: video transcoding app
I wonder if that would work with HD DVDs On Sep 24, 2012 3:54 PM, Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.net wrote: From: Derek Trotter Can anyone tell me what are some good applications for ripping DVDs and transcoding video on kubuntu 12.04? I've usually used DVD::Rip for this. It does just about everything you'd need to turn a DVD into 1 or 2 smaller AVI files that are not going to be larger than (user-selectable size) with two-pass encoding. It may be a bit more complex than you'd like, though, since it's really just a frontend to transcode/vobcopy. (transcode does everything, but it has more options than smb.conf) I've also heard of k9copy, a KDE app designed specifically to reduce dual-layer DVDs to slightly over 4G so you can copy them to cheaper single-layer DVD-Rs. It's been a while since I've fiddled with these things more than casually, though. -- Matt G / Dances With Crows The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: wireless problem
http://compnetworking.about.com/b/2008/08/21/aes-vs-tkip-for-wireless-encryption.htm can help. I use AES when i can. On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 10:00 AM, j...@actionline.com wrote: Go into network connections and remove the one for your neighbors SSID. Once your system has shown a preference for it (and maybe got an unsecured connection in the past), it will keep going back there. Also delete the one for your own SSID. That way the card will see both signals but not show a preference for either. Then you should be able to select your SSID and enter the :[new] pass phrase instead of relying on whatever XP has in storage for your network. What kind of wireless security are you using on upquick (WEP, WPA. WPA2..._? Thanks Larry. I'll give this another try. I did remove the SSID for my neighbor's connection, but it came right back and re-established itself again. upquick is using WPA2 PSK In network connections, I then see two options: TKIP and AES Can't find any explanation for whatever the difference is. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: wireless question
I suspect someone is on the same wireless channel causing interference On Sep 21, 2012 5:41 PM, Lyle Tuttle l.tut...@cox.net wrote: Is it possible for cox to cut the speed of my wireless router without affecting my eithernet speed? Out of the blue my wireless has dropped to next to nothing while my hard-wire connection is fine.. Any thoughts? lyle --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discusshttp://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Minimum ram for kubuntu?
I have a bunch of old ram. Find out what it takes and if I have any you are welcome to it On Sep 19, 2012 6:33 PM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote: Add more memory! http://crucial.com :) On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 6:21 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: What is the minimum ram required for kubuntu? Some online sources say it should run okay with 512-meg of ram. I'm trying to set up an old Dell for a friend and since I can't seem to get win-xp wireless to work, thought I'd try kubuntu. The unit has only 512-meg of ram and when I tried a live kubuntu CD, it worked okay, albeit slow. So I installed it on half the HD as a dual-boot and it runs, but very slow and it hangs up. Is there some way to salvage this old box? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Internet connection okay, but no access.
Can you ping? On Sep 18, 2012 2:17 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: On my wife's win-xp computer, we have a good wireless internet connection to our in-home wireless network, but she can no longer connect to any internet website. It was working fine until a recent reboot, but no longer works. What can I do to get it to work again? I've searched the 'net, but cannot find any clues. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Internet connection okay, but no access.
Media state disconnected means something is unplugged AKA link state is down. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:51 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: Do this to see if it has an ip address that isn't the Microsoft equivalent to 127.0.0.1 (169.254.x.x) start - run -cmd ipconfig correction: Windows IP Configuration ... is blank Media State ... shows Disconnected DNS Suffix : is blank IP Address 169.254.201.139 --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: wireless switch
there might be a bios setting. I happen to have one on my dell. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I have a compaq cq57 and am very upset with the wifi button. If I accidently turn it off it won't turn back on unless I restart the stupid thing. Is there a way to make it so it is always on? :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Google Voice question.
Attaching your toll free number to GV? That's actually how its meant to work. On Sep 14, 2012 12:02 AM, j...@actionline.com wrote: Thanks very much Joseph. I have the highest regard and appreciation for your knowledge, many valuable explanations, and excellent suggestions and solutions. After implementing the remedy that Brian suggested, Google Voice now seems to be a perfect solution for my needs. Google voice-mail now answers all calls to my 30-year established toll free number instantly with not even a single ring delay; and it answers calls to our existing land-line home phone number after just two or three rings. That is exactly what we needed. Plus, it also provides free voice-mail transcription of all voice-mail recorded calls, custom answering, and call filtering; so I can't imagine any other telephone service being as ideal as this for my needs ... and it's all free. What could possibly be better? -- I understand what you want to do. I was simply pointing out that if that's what you want then Google Voice is simply the wrong tool. If you try to use a sports car to haul dirt, you might manage it but it would be a lot easier if you just use a truck. If you want business voicemail, then there are many providers for exactly that; you seem to have found a way to shoehorn Google Voice into your use case, but I still suggest that you may find an actual business voice mail service to be far better at accomplishing your stated goals. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: android gallery
Im game to start expanding in android meetings and conversations. As for file and picture management i would rake a look at fx i javent even gotten to all of its features yet Sadly Motorola has the most feature laden gallery i jabbed seen so far. On Sep 8, 2012 1:06 AM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote: moin moin, anyone have a Free Software gallery program for Android to recommend? The default gallery works well for browsing through pictures, but I don't see a way to tag stuff or easily move things around. Same for Astro, which I use for other reasons. I'd like something that allows me to organize and tag the pictures. I suppose virtual organization via tags could work, but I would prefer to also be able to use the file system for some of the organization. Even if I did use cloud services for my pictures, it wouldn't do me much good. Most of the time that I have to take advantage of organizing things on my phone or tablet I don't have network connectivity. Cloud doesn't exist in a dry environment :). I would prefer a Free Software application. BTW, is there any interest in having a short android Free Software app introduction at the east side meeting every month? And by having, I mean giving :). If I do them we'll only hear about terminal programs and ascii art ;-), so we need other volunteers. Longer presentations are also welcome. ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/ http://www.LuftHans.com/**Classes/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # Batman Sues Batsignal: Demands Trademark Royalties. -- Cory Doctorow --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discusshttp://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Valve looking for Linux Gamers to beta-test?
http://steamforlinux.com/?q=en/node/99 not sure how many of you are gamers, but for those that are heads up! -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: System crash - now shows no space on device
Can you get a check disk to run? On Sep 3, 2012 5:10 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: My system crashed today - screen just went black when I clicked on the calendar. Could no longer boot to kde. So, I booted into safe mode and 'df' shows the root partition (12 gig) is filled. My home directory seems to be intact (thank God), but I can't figure out what has happened to fill up the root partition. 'du' on '/' shows a total of only 3.5 gig of space used, so why is the rest of the root partition filled up with 12-gig of space used? I tried to ssh login to the system from another computer wire-connected on the same ethernet but 'ssh' says no route to host. I did '/etc/init.d/sshd start' and got the response OK but I cannot connect. 'ifconfig' is found on the system, but returns no response when I invoke it. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
a dev team listening... nice!
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/659943965/planetary-annihilation-a-next-generation-rts/posts/290095 they got feedback and in the middle of their kick-starter efforts have agreed to add Linux development. -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: cp/scp/rcp whatever
wow that sounded kind of flippant... to correct some of that what i have seen plague people is when they set up networking they use NAT and that can cause some communication issues between client/host. On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: sounds like networking and firewall might be the issue. On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I need to move files from one computer to a virtual machine It seems there needs to be something configured to cp files from the host machine to the virtual machine. It just keeps telling me that the directory on the host machine does not exist. When I try to ssh from the virtual to the host it fails with 'connection timed out' but I can ssh to the virtual from the host with no problem. :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Great cell phone number
fyi on the rokr, not going to get to much for it as you can buy a galaxy nexus new from google fro about 300. the number is cool tho. On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 12:54 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: Anybody interested in acquiring a great easy-to-remember cell phone number? I have a new-in-the-box pay-as-you-go LG100C Tracfone cell phone with all accessories and 100+ minutes of time left. Just a cheap phone, but a *really* good phone number: 480-204-0404. If any interest, please make an offer. Also have a Motorola ROKR E8 Cell phone + digital camera + MP3 player. Still in original box with all components. Original price was $299.99 The original battery is still excellent and includes an extra brand new battery that has never been used. See it here: http://upquick.com/temp/moto.rokr.jpg From talk to music in one touch, easy-to-use controls. Smooth transition from phone to MP3 player. Has 2 GB Memory, MicroSD Slot, 2 MP Camera, and Media Player. Slim phone features a morphing keypad that shows only the relevant keys in music mode, camera mode, and phone modes. Has extra memory card slot, headphone jack, touch scroll wheel, key lock switch, QVGA display, and 2 megapixel camera. If anybody should be interested in either or both, please contact me off list and make an offer. Joe(at)Actionline.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Is there any disadvantage to a static ip address?
i think its partly intentional to clear servers that are not paying for it. 6/month for a single static ip however i find kinda ridiculous in price. but depending on the interval doing a 1 month trial to see if it is related might be an option. On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 2:28 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: Is there any disadvantage to a static ip address? My qwest dsl internet connection drops signal from time to time (service is definitely not as advertised 99.99% uptime). Also (qwest insists that is a separate issue), my web mail host loses connection with an error message saying ip address changed several times a day. Someone has suggested that getting a static ip address should correct some of these problems. qwest quotes $5.95/month for a static ip rather than a dynamic ip address. Is there any reason not to go for that? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: how to transfer files
dyndns.org is now http://dyn.com/ and they still seem to have a free account there you just have one heck of a time finding it. http://dyn.com/dns/free-vs-vip/ thats the best i can find anymore. On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.net wrote: From: Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com darn! dyndns won't work. can't afford it at the moment ? I thought dyndns.org registration was free if it was for personal use (or nonprofit use). Commercial use probably requires money. IIRC, the pay us to register!!1! links are large and visible, while the register for free link is in Flyspeck 3 on the bottom of a disused filing cabinet with Beware of the Leopard stapled to it. -- Matt G / Dances With Crows The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: how to transfer files
i just looked at hamachi and they have win, mac and Linux clients. and you don't need to know the ip address all hamachi clients call a central server then you can then do whatever you want. On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Amit Nepal a...@amitnepal.com wrote: What is your operating System on your computer ? Amit K Nepal Infrastructure Engineer (RHCE) omNovia Technologies Inc. Amit K Nepal On 8/16/2012 1:51 PM, Michael Havens wrote: okay I give up. This is getting to complicated. I guess i'll just have to keep teamviewer always on. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: SO then I didn't get a host name. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.net wrote: From: Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com I think I like DYNDNS and SSH (I don't like needing to keep a program running) but the man page for DDNS is so confusing! ANy pointers? Register with dyndns.org . Note your username, password, and hostname. Install ddclient. Edit /etc/ddclient/ddclient.conf so it contains something like so: # start ddclient.conf daemon=600 # check every 10 min syslog=yes # log update msgs to syslog mail=someb...@example.org # mail all msgs to somebody mail-failure=root # mail failed update msgs to root pid=/var/run/ddclient.pid use=if, if=eth0 # via external NIC login=DYDNS_LOGIN password=DYNDNS_PASSWORD server=members.dyndns.org, \ protocol=dyndns2\ DYNDNS_HOSTNAME # end ddclient.conf /etc/init.d/ddclient start , then chkconfig ddclient on or whatever. This should work to get you started. There are *a lot* of options to ddclient. Some of them might be useful somewhere; that's what you'll have to figure out on your own -- Matt G / Dances With Crows The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: how to transfer files
i would definitely use a nonstandard pot for ssh. also make sure to disallow direct root access via ssh so you have to use a regular user and su for any root functions should you decide they are necessary via remote. and that's a quick-list for my mind, there are others that would have a better scope of security suggestions for sure. i have seen the discussions go by that had some great ones. On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: dyndns with ssh/filezilla sounds like the way I want to go. But what about suecurity? Shold I just tell it to use a non-standard port? :-)~MIKE~(-: On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:02 PM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote: For me it's ssh. Filezilla (works on linux/windows) is a great scp client if you want a gui. B On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Hamachi, dropbox, dyndns with ssh/scp, there are many others. On Aug 14, 2012 4:00 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: let's say I'm at starbucks and I need a file off of the computer at the house. Please, how do I do it? condition- I do not have a static ipaddress. :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: no luck on memory for mystery Intel motherboard
you might have a dead board then, if its ram the thing doesn't like then it would start beeping. try removing all ram and see if it beeps. but if it still doesn't then you might be needing the board as well. note you might also want to make sure it has a speaker attached or built in also. On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Steven A. DuChene linux-clust...@mindspring.com wrote: nope, no beep codes -Original Message- From: Stephen Sent: Aug 14, 2012 11:25 PM To: Main PLUG discussion list , Steven A. DuChene Subject: Re: no luck on memory for mystery Intel motherboard Any beep codes? If just ram it should be making noise On Aug 14, 2012 7:25 PM, Steven A. DuChene linux-clust...@mindspring.com wrote: So I received the three matching sticks of 1066MHz DDR3 non-ECC memory today from Tiger Direct but when I tried it in the mystery Intel motherboard, I still do not get any video. So back to square one. Still no clear idea what memory is correct for this MB. The toe tag on the piece of string tied to the MB says: Platform family: Tylerburg (not Tylersburg) Platform name: Burnside Platform P/N: D70751-201 Processor/Stepping: NMH IOH/Stepping: TYB -- Steven DuChene --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: anyone want to hire a Linux Expert?
i know our production servers are RHEL and Centos based, not sure if they are hireing right now, but positions open and close at this place all time time. http://jobs.pearson.com/ I rather like working here personally. On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.net wrote: Basically, relentless boneheadedness from corporate is making my job way more unrewarding and difficult than it needs to be. If you're an employer who wants a guy who knows lots about running Linux boxes, is offering a decent wage, isn't completely insane, and is in downtown Phoenix, Tempe, Chandler, or will let me work remotely, I could be interested. Resume: http://crow202.org/~mhgraham/resume/ -- Matt G / Dances With Crows The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: how to transfer files
Hamachi, dropbox, dyndns with ssh/scp, there are many others. On Aug 14, 2012 4:00 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: let's say I'm at starbucks and I need a file off of the computer at the house. Please, how do I do it? condition- I do not have a static ipaddress. :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ot Online school
to go with a school that isn't so in bed with MS. UMN is not in bed with em. or else coulde I out it on an external HD? :-)~MIKE~(-: On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com mailto:cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: the pert i left out is if you install windows to the drive that has Linux on it. even if you re-size the drives to make space it will overwrite grub, and you will need to re-install and reconfigure it. alternative install win7 in KVM or virtualbox. On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com mailto:cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: well personally if you can just install to a new drive then you can have it pristine and configure grub... On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com mailto:bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I need to put 7 back on my computer for school. How do you do it w/o blowing everything else away (ie on another partition). I also need to repartition. How big does it need to be for 7? :-)~MIKE~(-: --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.**plug.phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-** discuss http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.**plug.phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-** discusshttp://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss __ __ --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.**plug.phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-** discusshttp://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss __ __ --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.**plug.phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discusshttp://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discusshttp://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discusshttp://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ot Online school
Also i have been liking the fee live office apps that have been partnered with skydrive. It might be woth looking at also. On Aug 9, 2012 9:02 AM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote: Win7 was a pig for me, wanted 20g or so just to install (not cool on a 64gb ssd vs. 8gb for xp with os, apps, fully loaded), and 2gb ram to run decently (4gb if i wanted to power-use a lot of visio and other apps). Overall for as little as I do with windoze, xp is more than sufficient still as a compatibility layer to export their garbage to something usable. I found at a client of mine that used citrix xenapp, it's literally runs a win vm, exports the app over the network ala vbox's seamless mode, and you end up with a windoze-y app window inside linux. I really wish they didn't license the living hell out of xenapp on both the citrix and M$ side, as it would make for a nice solution at home too for my windoze-app sans windoze necessity. Word of warning, I keep my windows instance hidden on a nat interfaces and/or behind a firewall bridged at all times to protect it from exposure for lack of patching and such, and never use it for actual browsing or anything to avoid drive-by infections. It manages to keep it from being perpetually infected like most other users I see without the necessity of av, malware, and other chastity belts for windoze. Yes I know about wine, but it's proven useless for any complex M$ apps over the years. Side-note, Onlive (gaming remote render/export client) does something like this now, exporting a limited free win7 desktop with office apps now I've been meaning to try. I had tried on my phone, but their stupid client simply fails to work on my android - ymmv. I might actually pay to save from having to keep a win vm just to convert things and/or use visio, assuming Onlive fixes their damn client... -mb On 08/09/2012 05:35 AM, Stephen wrote: It will run on 1 but 2 is better. And 2 cores are best vs 1 On Aug 9, 2012 12:11 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com mailto:bmi...@gmail.com wrote: virtual machine! why didn't I think of that. What are the minimum memory requirements for 7. (I don't have XP but I do have 7) :-)~MIKE~(-: On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net mailto:mich...@butash.net wrote: Just FYI, consulting and being aatround random shops with customer and vendor docs, I find a lot of the .pptx, docx, or xlsx files are spotty at best what works under linux, what works sanely (complex forumlas==poop), and what just crashes openoffice. Libreoffice is almost useless with the new formats, as the dev's don't feel they need to support microsoft's continued forced incompatibility with everyone else on purpose (can't blame them either). Obviously M$ doesn't care, as most people just keep buying office when microsoft tells them to every few years to stay compatible with their own poop. I keep an xp vm in virtualbox for this reason at all times, generally with real office (well, as real as usenet gets for clean slipstream install images), just to make sure if I *have* to resort to exporting from it to something I can use (2000-03 compat office formats). Seamless mode under linux i found finally works decently, reduces the sting of using windows significantly and hides it to keep my linux desktop cred. ;) Likewise creating complex formatted docs are horribly incompatible usually under real m$office from libre/openoffice, so export as pdf is your friend when passing back and forth to windoze users. Really sucks it has to be this way - thanks microsoft. -mb On 08/08/2012 11:28 AM, Michael Havens wrote: Its cool I was surprised they specified an OS as well. but the university of Minnesota seems more willing to work with me. This is what they said (in part): Firefox or Chrome for Linux should work fine for Moodle. Open Office for Linux saves as Word and in other MS compatible formats. We also have Google Docs as a University implementation so you can use those online apps. As long as you can view the following types of files you should be able to access most anything in the courses: * Video o .mp4, .wmv, Flash (flv or swf), * Word Processing o .docx, .doc (may require a document viewer for .docx) * PowerPoint o .pptx, .ppt (may require a document viewer for .pptx) * PDF * Excel o occasionally .xlst, .xls
Re: ot Online school
well personally if you can just install to a new drive then you can have it pristine and configure grub... On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I need to put 7 back on my computer for school. How do you do it w/o blowing everything else away (ie on another partition). I also need to repartition. How big does it need to be for 7? :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ot Online school
the pert i left out is if you install windows to the drive that has Linux on it. even if you re-size the drives to make space it will overwrite grub, and you will need to re-install and reconfigure it. alternative install win7 in KVM or virtualbox. On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: well personally if you can just install to a new drive then you can have it pristine and configure grub... On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I need to put 7 back on my computer for school. How do you do it w/o blowing everything else away (ie on another partition). I also need to repartition. How big does it need to be for 7? :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: looking for DDR3 1066MHz ECC or non-ECC memory
yep. Intel is weird but simple. they use basic thermal compound and a wire with hooks on the end generally. once you get ram on it boot the thing up you will learn allot more about it. Intel has a tool that will help you id stuff on the board for drivers its pretty good. On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Steven A. DuChene linux-clust...@mindspring.com wrote: It is a pre-production prototype Intel motherboard and none of the numbers printed on the motherboard show up in any research I have been able to do so far. I have not yet gone so far as to remove the heat sinks on the non-CPU chips on the motherboard to see if they provide any clues. Has anyone successfully removed a heat sink off of a non-CPU motherboard chip and then reinstalled it with no damage to the motherboard? Like the bridge or other MB controller chips that have heat sinks held down with spring clips that fasten under loops soldered into the motherboard. -- Steven DuChene -Original Message- -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: looking for DDR3 1066MHz ECC or non-ECC memory
your odds of it being EEC only are somewhat unlikely so trying reg DDR3 is probably a safe place to start. On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Steven A. DuChene linux-clust...@mindspring.com wrote: So since I am unsure what exact sort of memory is supposed to work in this mystery Intel board, does anyone have two or three matching DDR3 1066MHz DIMMs I could try in this thing? I still don't know if it is supposed to be ECC or non-ECC. I just need to try the memory long enough to see if I get a video signal or not. Then I will know what type of memory to purchase. -- Steven DuChene --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: How can a usb device crash a computer?
worst case the voltage pins were backwards in either the port or the cable. best case the data lines and the os then freaked out. but if the thing is not coming back up it sounds like voltage lines were crossed or crossed with the data lines. On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 1:59 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: How could plugging in a printer via a usb port crash my computer? I just got a usb to rs232 connector cable and when I plugged it in to my computer, the computer instantly quit. So I unplugged the usb cable immediately, but now I cannot power on the computer. What in the world could have caused such a drastic failure? And what can I try to resurrect the computer? Or, to whom would you recommend I take the computer for repair? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: looking for DDR3 1333MHz ECC memory
Get me a picture and i can probably help you identify it. On Aug 6, 2012 6:28 PM, Steven A. DuChene linux-clust...@mindspring.com wrote: I have a mystery motherboard with what I believe is a Intel Nehalem server cpu. I think the type of memory I need is PC3-10600 DDR3 1333MHz ECC memory. The board seems to have a A, B, and C memory channel from what I can see on the motherboard. I believe I can either put two identical DIMMs in with one in channel A slot 0 and the other in channel B slot 0 or I can I think I can put three identical DIMMs in slot 0 of all three channels. I have tried PC3-10600 DDR3 Non-ECC DIMMs but I did not get any video, Before I go out and purchase some new memory does anyone have any spare PC3-10600 ECC memory DIMMs they could bring to a PLUG meeting so I can try to see if that is the correct memory before I purchase new DIMMs? -- Steven DuChene --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: looking for DDR3 1333MHz ECC memory
If you get ddr 2 in ddr 3 slots yes given voltage pins are in the wrong place. But wrong timing will just be a non post. On Aug 6, 2012 10:13 PM, Derek Trotter expat.arizo...@gmail.com wrote: If you put the wrong memory in a motherboard, aren't you running the risk of frying the motherboard, memory or both? On 8/6/2012 21:57, Stephen wrote: Get me a picture and i can probably help you identify it. On Aug 6, 2012 6:28 PM, Steven A. DuChene linux-clust...@mindspring.com wrote: I have a mystery motherboard with what I believe is a Intel Nehalem server cpu. I think the type of memory I need is PC3-10600 DDR3 1333MHz ECC memory. The board seems to have a A, B, and C memory channel from what I can see on the motherboard. I believe I can either put two identical DIMMs in with one in channel A slot 0 and the other in channel B slot 0 or I can I think I can put three identical DIMMs in slot 0 of all three channels. I have tried PC3-10600 DDR3 Non-ECC DIMMs but I did not get any video, Before I go out and purchase some new memory does anyone have any spare PC3-10600 ECC memory DIMMs they could bring to a PLUG meeting so I can try to see if that is the correct memory before I purchase new DIMMs? -- Steven DuChene --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: CenturyLink/DirectTV
My experience dates back to the qwest/uswest says where features would magically appear on my account. Things like vm and long distance on my modem line ect. So i have really had very little interest in going back. On Jul 25, 2012 6:26 PM, Mark Astrauskas ap...@cox.net wrote: CenturyLink recently laid fiber in my area and is pitching their new Internet/DirectTV service. Does anyone have recent experience with CenturyLink's fiber offering or with DirectTV as well? It looks like I could save a good amount every month and could even get a faster speed, so I'm strongly considering it. Yelp reviews are awful, but so are the Cox Cable ones (my current provider), so I'm seeking any firsthand comments or experiences. Thanks, Mark --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discusshttp://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: CenturyLink/DirectTV
Wire the old ones up to your wifi and have fun... On Jul 25, 2012 6:51 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: you want a dish on your house? If there is already one there make sure you instruct the tech to take the old one(s) down. WHen I was training to be an installer we went to one house with three dishes already up. My trainer just put a fourth in place. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:31 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: My experience dates back to the qwest/uswest says where features would magically appear on my account. Things like vm and long distance on my modem line ect. So i have really had very little interest in going back. On Jul 25, 2012 6:26 PM, Mark Astrauskas ap...@cox.net wrote: CenturyLink recently laid fiber in my area and is pitching their new Internet/DirectTV service. Does anyone have recent experience with CenturyLink's fiber offering or with DirectTV as well? It looks like I could save a good amount every month and could even get a faster speed, so I'm strongly considering it. Yelp reviews are awful, but so are the Cox Cable ones (my current provider), so I'm seeking any firsthand comments or experiences. Thanks, Mark --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discusshttp://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Tool to change ftp dir permissions globally?
I love filezilla :-) On Jul 25, 2012 8:57 PM, Daniel Stasinski dan...@genericinbox.com wrote: On Jul 25, 2012 12:59 PM, Eric Cope eric.c...@gmail.com mailto:eric.c...@gmail.com wrote: Can Filezilla do a recursive chmod? Yep, apparently so and pretty painless too. Thanks :) Daniel -- | --- | Daniel P. Stasinski | dan...@genericinbox.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Remote login... Oh Boy
There is also xming+putty that gave me a full rlogin style experience. Or you can look into winscp those are some serious wins in my book On Jul 23, 2012 7:42 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Xcapable SSH client like Hummingbird. N Cygwin! :) ET Lisa Kachold writes: Set your local display variable and if the ports are open and OpenX is running, you will get an echoed Xterminal session to open locally. If you are using Windows locally, you will need an Xcapable SSH client like Hummingbird. An X program needs two pieces of information in order to connect to an X display. - It needs the address of the display, which is typically :0 when you're logged in locally or :10, :11, etc. when you're logged in remotely (but the number can change depending on how many X connections are active). The address of the display is normally indicated in the DISPLAY environment variable. - It needs the password for the display. X display passwords are called *magic cookies*. Magic cookies are not specified directly: they are always stored in X authority files, which are a collection of records of the form “display :42 has cookie 123456”. The X authority file is normally indicated in the XAUTHORITY environment variable. If $XAUTHORITY is not set, programs use ~/.Xauthority. You're trying to act on the windows that are displayed on your desktop. If you're the only person using your desktop machine, it's very likely that the display name is :0. Finding the location of the X authority file is harder, because with gdm as set up under Debian squeeze or Ubuntu 10.04, it's in a file with a randomly generated name. (You had no problem before because earlier versions of gdm used the default setting, i.e. cookies stored in ~/.Xauthority.) Getting the values of the variables Here are a few ways to obtain the values of DISPLAY and XAUTHORITY: - You can systematically start a screen session from your desktop, perhaps automatically in your login scripts (from ~/.profile; but do it only if logging in under X: test if DISPLAY is set to a value beginning with :(that should cover all the cases you're likely to encounter)). In ~/.profile: case $DISPLAY in :*) screen -S local -d -m;; esac Then, in the ssh session: screen -d -r local - You could also save the values of DISPLAY and XAUTHORITY in a file and recall the values. In ~/.profile: case $DISPLAY in :*) export | grep -E ' (DISPLAY|XAUTHORITY)=' ~/.local-display-coordinates.**sh;; esac In the ssh session: . ~/.local-display-coordinates.**sh screen - You could detect the values of DISPLAY and XAUTHORITY from a running process. This is harder to automate. You have to figure out the PID of a process that's connected to the display you want to work on, then get the environment variables from /proc/$pid/environ (eval export $(/proc/$pid/environ tr \\0 \\n | grep -E '^(DISPLAY|XAUTHORITY)=')¹). Copying the cookies Another approach is to not try to obtain the value of $XAUTHORITY in the ssh session, but instead to make the X session copy its cookies into ~/.Xauthority. Since the cookies are generated each time you log in, it's not a problem if you keep stale values in ~/.Xauthority. There can be a security issue if your home directory is accessible over NFS or other network file system that allows remote administrators to view its contents. They'd still need to connect to your machine somehow, unless you've enabled X TCP connections (Debian has them off by default). So for most people, this either does not apply (no NFS) or is not a problem (no X TCP connections). To copy cookies when you log into your desktop X session, add the following lines to ~/.xprofile or ~/.profile (or some other script that is read when you log in): case $DISPLAY:$XAUTHORITY in :*:?*) # DISPLAY is set and points to a local display, and XAUTHORITY is # set, so merge the contents of `$XAUTHORITY` into ~/.Xauthority. XAUTHORITY=~/.Xauthority xauth merge $XAUTHORITY;; esac ¹ In principle this lacks proper quoting, but in this specific instance $DISPLAY and $XAUTHORITY won't contain any shell metacharacter. On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Joseph Sinclair plug-discuss...@stcaz.net**wrote: The closest to your old rlogin approach would be ssh -X yourserver.ip.address x program to run, e.g. meld you might need to fiddle with some settings to get it working, however. On 07/22/2012 12:56 PM, Stephen wrote: ssh transfers i think would be the fastest/easiest. there are some gui clients that can do this. On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Wayne Davis waydavis.phx.li...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, Years ago, when i worked for frontier global-center, I remember that we could rlogin to a system and Startx. At least I REMEMBER it this way. My recollection
Re: OT: Cellular Modems
All verizon phones as part of the share everything have it enabled now. Any rooted android phone can also. On Jul 23, 2012 2:39 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't know this for a fact, however I hear you can use certain smart phones as a wifi hot spot. Keith Smith --- On *Mon, 7/23/12, AZ Pete p...@cactusfamily.com* wrote: From: AZ Pete p...@cactusfamily.com Subject: OT: Cellular Modems To: PLUG Discuss plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 1:40 PM Hi All, I am looking to pickup a cellular USB modem that my wife and I can use on her laptop when traveling (rather than relying solely on trying to find free Wifi). I know that there are providers where I can purchase the modem device and purchase a month-to-month data plan. I'm looking to go pre-paid as I don't need (or want) to have a recurring monthly bill when I'm not using it. In case it matters, this would be for a Win7 laptop. Any recommendations?? Thanks, Peter -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.ushttp://mc/compose?to=PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Remote login... Oh Boy
ssh transfers i think would be the fastest/easiest. there are some gui clients that can do this. On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Wayne Davis waydavis.phx.li...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, Years ago, when i worked for frontier global-center, I remember that we could rlogin to a system and Startx. At least I REMEMBER it this way. My recollection was that I was running the GUI LOCALLY and metatdata was being transferred across. VERY fast efficient screens. A: AM I recalling wrongly? B: I'm wanting to set up a server box on my network for files, music, video that will be headless (No monitor or mouse connected) Running Kubuntu 12.04 as primary OS on all boxes here. I see rlogin, ssh, blah blah blah... I'm looking for EFFICIENT GUI presentation, File transfers. xvnc11 works but is slow, teamviewer is making connections outside my network to operate AND is wine based :-( What should I use that will keep it S I M P L E (if possible) and secure ( I am behind a M0n0wall WRAP firewall) I want to be able to connect at will. Is this going to be a major pain? Thanks everyone for your thoughts :-) --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: networking down
logs are going to be your best bet of finding out anything. to me it sounds like your upgrade ate your wlan drivers. On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Everything was working great on my laptop and then I up graded. Well, everything ran great still for about a month but then I shut my computer down and then the next day I start my computer again but as it is booting am told 'waiting for network configuration...' Then 'Waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration...' Then the login screen appears. I login but the network is still down until I open a terminal and type: ifconfig wlan0 up Well, The little blue networking light comes on when I type ifconfig but no pages will load and I can't rsync so I guess it doesn't work still. I know it isn't the card because another OS I have on the computer acts normally when it is loaded. Could someone tell me what is going on? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: networking down
Most any Ubuntu or its relatives uses /var/logs On Jul 21, 2012 3:23 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I can't find the logs where are they, please? On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: lofs? On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: I did not know that part. I wojld look into lofs. They will likely have clues and answers On Jul 21, 2012 3:17 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: but the network was up for a week. On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: logs are going to be your best bet of finding out anything. to me it sounds like your upgrade ate your wlan drivers. On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Everything was working great on my laptop and then I up graded. Well, everything ran great still for about a month but then I shut my computer down and then the next day I start my computer again but as it is booting am told 'waiting for network configuration...' Then 'Waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration...' Then the login screen appears. I login but the network is still down until I open a terminal and type: ifconfig wlan0 up Well, The little blue networking light comes on when I type ifconfig but no pages will load and I can't rsync so I guess it doesn't work still. I know it isn't the card because another OS I have on the computer acts normally when it is loaded. Could someone tell me what is going on? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: networking down
Not sure about what happened unless some updates came in. And yes lspci should demystify the wifi chip . On Jul 21, 2012 6:08 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: lspci to get the wifi chip?? also What happened to the driver I didn't do anything different than I usually do beside turning the computer off. On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: That looks to be the issue. Best fix i can think of is to Google your wifi chip and see what drivers you cab find On Jul 21, 2012 4:46 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if my network driver got hosed?I'm looking at the 'Wireless Network Drivers' window and nothing is listed under 'Currently Installed Windows Drivers:' When I click 'Configure Network' Network Connections window and nothing is listed. Everything is grayed out. When I click 'add' everything is grayed out. On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.comwrote: Yeahhh thanks Stepan. Which file do I inspect? Was 'lofs' a missepell of 'logs'? On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Most any Ubuntu or its relatives uses /var/logs On Jul 21, 2012 3:23 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I can't find the logs where are they, please? On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.comwrote: lofs? On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.comwrote: I did not know that part. I wojld look into lofs. They will likely have clues and answers On Jul 21, 2012 3:17 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: but the network was up for a week. On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.comwrote: logs are going to be your best bet of finding out anything. to me it sounds like your upgrade ate your wlan drivers. On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Everything was working great on my laptop and then I up graded. Well, everything ran great still for about a month but then I shut my computer down and then the next day I start my computer again but as it is booting am told 'waiting for network configuration...' Then 'Waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration...' Then the login screen appears. I login but the network is still down until I open a terminal and type: ifconfig wlan0 up Well, The little blue networking light comes on when I type ifconfig but no pages will load and I can't rsync so I guess it doesn't work still. I know it isn't the card because another OS I have on the computer acts normally when it is loaded. Could someone tell me what is going on? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE
Re: anti-virus
Avast also has a Linux client as well as clamav On Jul 14, 2012 11:37 PM, Kenn parabell...@yahoo.com wrote: Seeking recommendations for an anti-virus for Linux ... there aren't many virus/malware/spyware that compromise Linux? But I do occasionally forward files to Mac/Win machines. Thanks! --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Weird virtualbox...
I have traditionally had better luck with Nvidia graphics with Linux. however since the ATI/AMD merger they have REALLY stepped up their Linux driver support. so much so that a HUGE contract went from Nvidia to AMD fro graphics for the better Linux support. So before flipping graphics hardware i would look into their drivers and see. I have run into instances where the default Ubuntu chosen driver is not the right choice. On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 5:05 PM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Well, I was able to determine that the 'malloc' error is happening in *MY* box (I thought it was happening on the *other* box), so I booted my box with a 'Rescatux' CD, installed SSH, did: ssh -fCXY user@remote virtualbox and it worked... What that means to me is that both, the last Xubuntu and the last Mint, have some weird interaction (kernel, video drivers, chipset, who knows) that causes the problem. I am also having issues because my box was either rebooting X or rebooting the whole enchilada, so I did run a memtest86+ for several hours without issues and I expect the hardware to be trustworthy. It is some sort of hardware disliking software issue. Or so I hope.. Now the question that I am trying to answer is: which distro should I install to avoid this nightmare? The quest goes on... ET PS: This box has an ATI video card, should I expect a Nvidia to have better results? I have always have a better luck with Nvidia, but YMMV... kitepi...@kitepilot.com writes: Well, the Gnomes are at work (again) in my box and I could certainly use some help to evict them... This is what's happening: I use: 'ssh -fCXY user@remotebox run-something' a lot. Works every time. Or 'mostly' every time... Now when I run (ONLY from *MY* box): ssh -fCXY turboviking virtualbox I get: *** glibc detected *** /usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBox: malloc(): memory corruption: 0x099c5e48 *** And a long trace. This is the quick rundown of how it broke: My desktop was having hiccups and I decided to replace whatever I had (can't remember what) with the latest Xubuntu. After that, the problem started. This problem, coupled with other issues, led me to scrap Xubuntu and install the latest Mint/Mate. Problem didn't go away... The Xubuntu and Mint installations were fresh from-scratch installs, the only thing I preserved was my home directory. So the conclusion was evident: there is something in my /home/directory causing the problem. Nope... Created another user, rebooted the box and logged in with the new user. Same $#!T... :( Now, ANYTHING else that I have fired up works just fine. And If I run the exact same instruction from other of my local boxes, it works fine too! It is ONLY 'vitualbox in my box' that fails. But it used to work just fine... Now the (unsolvable and incomprehensible to me) question is: What could possibly be breaking the whole 'remote SSH run' mechanism (ONLY for Virtualbox) in my box, which used to work fine before, and works fine from everywhere else. Other than sacrificing another goat and burying some transistors and garlic wrapped on anti-static paper at midnite with no Moon, I don't know what to do... I have seen Virtualbox do weird things before when ran it remotely under X/SSH, but this blows my (little) mind. :( Any ideas? Sight... ET --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: g++
For windows i like notepad ++ light context highlights and tabs. Very basic for sure but i really like it. Just wish i had a Linux port. On Jul 10, 2012 4:21 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: An IDE will be an unnecessary complication for you. There is nothing that an IDE can do that can not be accomplished by vi/grep/find/ctags. There even *EXISTS* a GUI Vim! :) One of the things I despise about a Micro$haft environment is that the lack of tools and convoluted environment DEMANDS the IDE. I am an experienced C++ programmer (in both, *nix and M$) and I know enough about g++ to be dangerous. I'll be more than glad to guide your steps over software development the way that 'real men' write software! ;-) Feel free to contact me at your convenience, I am heading out of town until Friday. ET PS: And remember: If you have any question, you will get any answer... Trent Shipley writes: I am reading a C++ book on Kindle and I am enjoying it. I could just download the free Microsoft C++ compiler and IDE, but I would like to work in a Linux (Ubuntu) environment. I have obtained the g++ package. I have obtained Eclipse, which seems to have a C++ plug-in. Is there a good, recent gcc|g++ book I can read? Failing that is there a way to get the documentation on my tablet (perhaps a PDF)? How do I get the plug-in for Eclipse? How do I integrate g++ and Eclipse? (You can see that I'm angling for an IDE. If I can't get the IDE to work it's back to Microsoft.) --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discusshttp://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Android Dev Questions
Android is way to popular to disappear anytime soon. I know eclipse has some built in tools for android sdk and the new emulators help a ton. Mark covered allot but did not mention there are two ways to build an app one is more modular the other being more closely tied to hardware. But getting into the rom/mod community will get you some good contacts for android development and places to promote applications or find testers. On Jul 10, 2012 6:27 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: Posted to PLUG, TFUG, AzPHP I wondering about trends. Currently I make my living as a LAMP developer. The market seems strong and lots of main stream apps are built with PHP. So I expect the market to continue to be strong for 10 – 15 years. That is the time frame I am interested in. Things are moving rather fast now. Cheap hardware is now a reality. It looks like a smart phone has more CPU and RAM than the laptop I bought 10 year ago, and the desktop I bought 7 year ago. I think I saw a smart phone that had a dual core 1.5ghtz processor and a gig of RAM. My first 2 computers didn't even have hard drives.. I'm intrigued by Android development. Seems there is really only one option and that is the Android SDK that is modified Java. I don't find Java to be intuitive, however I can live with it. My main question has to do with compatibility. A friend tells me he thinks there are comparability issues between manufactures since they modify Android to met their needs and the lack of standards. After exchanging emails, it sounds like writing Android code is like writing JavaScript that needs to run in all the currently available browsers. We have JavaScript solutions – MooTools, jQuery … etc. However in the short time I've been looking at Android development, I have not found any information on compatibility issues (however I have not search either). I have lots of questions. 1. What is the life expectancy of Android? Will it be around 15 years from now? 2. How hard is it to upgrade a phone to a newer version of Android? 3. Are there any compatibility issues? 4. How does one monetize Android application development skills? 5. Where can I find quality used Android phones? 6. What device would you recommend I use to learn Android development – Phone, Tablet, Simulator? Thank you so much for all your insight. Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: g++
Well Googling g++ and eclipse comes up with a ton of good hits. Some of them appear to be some handy walkthroughs. On Jul 9, 2012 8:27 PM, Trent Shipley trent_ship...@yahoo.com wrote: I am reading a C++ book on Kindle and I am enjoying it. I could just download the free Microsoft C++ compiler and IDE, but I would like to work in a Linux (Ubuntu) environment. I have obtained the g++ package. I have obtained Eclipse, which seems to have a C++ plug-in. Is there a good, recent gcc|g++ book I can read? Failing that is there a way to get the documentation on my tablet (perhaps a PDF)? How do I get the plug-in for Eclipse? How do I integrate g++ and Eclipse? (You can see that I'm angling for an IDE. If I can't get the IDE to work it's back to Microsoft.) --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Opinions on Zorin OS (and a side order of Mint)
anyone else here concerned there is an OS out there based on the bad guy from a James Bond movie? On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Wayne Davis waydavis.phx.li...@gmail.com wrote: Loaded Mint 13 Maya on a drive last night. Looks A LOT like Zorin. Going to play with mint Zorin for a bit. They both look promising for a winbabes. although Ylmf looked promising, my friend's machine, who this is all about, is nearly new hardware (1 yr) -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Looking for Router Suggestions
I still really like that router. On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Nope. I followed the link from the earlier message https://www.flashrouters.com/netgear-wnr3500l-ddwrt-router.php and read this on their web site: Note: VPN capabilities are only available to VPN subscribers. We work with OverPlayVPN to make this process simple and easy for beginners. A DD-WRT router may be used to set up a VPN connection from a different provider, but only if they offer support. We currently will only preset the router for OverPlayVPN users. The I followed the link to OverPlayVPN and read about the services and costs. I know dd-wrt will do OpenVPN without a commercial service. I just was concerned you had not noticed that blurb of theirs. On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: Larry, I queried FlashRouters if they require any vpn or dynamic dns services, or if they modify the dd-wrt firmware in any way, and got this response: VPN and DNS service are not required at all, however it is quite simple to integrate them with DD-WRT routers. We load tested, stable DD-WRT builds onto the device, we do not modify the actual firmware. Have you had a bad experience with FlashRouters? Mark On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Be sure to look at the fine print. They are setting that router to work with a specific provider of what I think is dynamic DNS and offer special encryption at fee that can come to about $10/month. On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: James, It sounds like a fun project! I am very tempted... However, I found this one - https://www.flashrouters.com/netgear-wnr3500l-ddwrt-router.php for $80. It has wireless, but I can just turn it off. A 480 MHz processor, and dd-wrt installed and tested with openvpn. I haven't priced out your parts list, but I would be surprised if it comes to less than $80. Also, I think the netgear router will consume less power and space in my crowded cable closet (aka the top shelf in my cupboard). Answers to your questions - I need a total of 20 gigabit LAN ports for my network. Currently, I have two 8 port gigabit switches, and 4 10/100 ports on my current BEFSX41 router. I want to upgrade the router for open vpn, and gigabit speeds. So the router is also a switch. What is the advantage of running the whole thing virtualized? -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: some pages just won't load
Check what java script and the like you have enabled or not. That's what it sounds like. If you have noscript check it too On Jul 3, 2012 3:04 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: You know how when you hover over certain words a drop down menu appears? Well that isnm't happening on one of my computers Chrome instances. On a possibly related note on this same computer some web pages will not load completely. I seem to remember being advised to disable something for security but I can't remember what it was or if I followed the advise. The website is hi5.com . The first three tabs (home, profile, messages) will not load fully. Hmmm I wonder. I just noticed that the tabs that do not load fully are the ones that are not pull-downs. On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I have a slight problem. On one of my computers I have one page that just will not load completely. I'm thinking that maybe I enabled a filter or something but disabling the filter has no effect. The website is hi5.comand the 'home' tab, the 'profile' tab, and the 'messages' tabs don't fully load. On a possibly related note when I hover over links that show drop down menus the drop down doesn't appear I wonder, someone suggested disabling something at one time for security reasons and maybe that is what I did what does those drop downs? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Can't save... insufficient user rights
I would take a look at the rights and what user owns the file as a start. On Jul 1, 2012 1:28 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Okay I rsynced things between my two computers but before I did so I forgot to close libre calc. Now The file that was open on one of the computers will not open on the other. I deleted the SingletonLock file but that didn't help any. I then tried deleting the file and then restoring from back up but when I try to save the file the computer says that the object is not accessable 'due to insufficient user rights'. What do I do to save the file. Also, when this happens again how do I open the file that will not open if deleting the SingletonLock file does not work? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: konqueror browser flakey - solved
I was going to say that's a DNS issue, and why one browser is using one over the other browser is an interesting issue. On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 12:11 AM, j...@actionline.com wrote: Disregard. I found a solution - by manually changing dns servers to 208.67.222.222 and 220 On most of my computers, the Konqueror browser works fine. However, on one computers, while Firefox works fine to access any and all websites on the Internet, the Konqueror browser on this one computer only works to connect to Google.com and Yahoo.com; but when trying to access other websites, it does not work. I have a strong dsl high-speed Internet connection through qwest. Any ideas how to get Konqueror to work properly on this one box where it is failing? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Ot but not - New android accessibility enhancements
There will even be some accessibly enhancements, allowing blind users to access braille devices to connect to Android and to use special gestures to preform basic tasks. This will open up the platform for a variety of people who have not had access before to utilize some Google services through Android. The accessibility market, I think, will become a fast moving audience as us geeks get older, soldiers come back from war, and we seek out ways to simplify basic tasks on the platform. from http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/articles/announcements/recap-of-new-features-in-jelly-bean-r927 I know there are some on this list that this might have a more direct interest than others. but some very interesting work towards accessibility in 4.1 for sure. -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: rsync syntax question
what Ed said... :-) On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Ed p...@0x1b.com wrote: rsync -avH --progress dirname/ webhostname:www/differentdirname add the trailing / and it works on the contents - see the section on Usage: http://www.samba.org/ftp/rsync/rsync.html On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 3:36 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: How can I modify the following syntax to copy a directory to a different directory name? I currently use this: rsync -avH --progress dirname webhostname:www/ Which works fine to update the contents of dirname. But how could I modify this syntax so that it would copy the contents of dirname to differentdirname ? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Strange Server Behavior
What about pings from the server? Also my paranoia about this would have me checking the arp tables to see if the ip address is getting mis-somethinged. Also see if uou can make a task that will wrife to a file once every qp sex and see if the server is falling asleep or if it is network related. It may be nic or switch for example. On Jun 26, 2012 7:42 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: My ping test is not what I expected but still shows a problem. I setup the test to ping (64 bytes, ttl =64) the problem server every 10 seconds from my laptop. Both are plugged in, on the same subnet. The boxes are about 5 feet apart. Here are the results: 3434 packets transmitted, 3307 received, 3% packet loss, time 34336321ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.100/0.231/4.332/0.275 ms I found 38 instances where the time stamps for the pings hiccuped and there was a delay. Each hiccup lasted (min/avg/max) 10/44/70 seconds. The time between hiccups was (min/avg/max) 1:20/14:29/29:00 minutes. I grep'd the log files for messages around these 38 incidents, but did not find any messages in any of the logs. However this is not a good test, so I just trolled the logs and didn't find anything significant. Do these numbers strike a chord with anyone? I will check the caps on the MB later this week. I looked in syslog, and could not find any correlation with the 38 hiccups. However, what do these two cron jobs do, since the run quite frequently: CMD ( cd / run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly) CMD ( [ -x /usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime ] [ -d /var/lib/php5 ] find /var/lib/php5/ -type f -cmin +$(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime) -delete) A search through the log files for error does not return anything interesting. Since apache and few other apps were running on the server, I will run the ping test again tonight after I kill everything on the server. Thanks! Mark On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Carruth, Rusty rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com wrote: Curious how your test turned out. ** ** You may also want to run an iostat to a file and see if that correlates to the slow responses. ** ** However, that ‘bulging capacitor’ thing others have mentioned sounds like a pretty convincing coincidence, as it were…. ** ** (I will say that USUALLY I’d agree with JD – Iobound or low RAM (and thus iobound on swap space) are the only things I’ve seen that cause unresponsiveness (never seen an overheat slow it down, usually it just dies suddenly. I probably get fast overheating and not slow increases in heat levels J) ** ** OH! WAIT! I just remembered another event – and it WON’T show up in normal performance logs. If ‘you’ send a command to a disk drive, and it goes busy for a long time, your system can become totally locked until the timeout happens and the kernel gives up. (If that happens, there SHOULD be a timeout recorded in the syslog or /var/log/messages. Check there for timeouts on disk drives or hard resets or such). (I know this because of where I work J) (Disk drives are supposed to acknowledge the command almost immediately. It is almost always a bad thing when the drive takes the command but does not finish the initial command handshake sequence… You might want to look at the S.M.A.R.T. attributes for your drives as well to see if any of them are showing ‘pre-fail’ conditions) ** ** Rusty ** ** *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] *On Behalf Of *Mark Phillips *Sent:* Monday, June 25, 2012 10:13 PM *To:* Main PLUG discussion list *Subject:* Re: Strange Server Behavior ** ** Right now, the server is not doing anything but sitting there Tasks: 98 total, 1 running, 97 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 0.0%us, 0.3%sy, 0.0%ni, 99.7%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem: 1033780k total, 217560k used, 816220k free, 6220k buffers Swap: 2019320k total,0k used, 2019320k free,94056k cached Plenty of swap, not very busy. It may be over heating, but not sure why. I am going to run a test tonight - ping every 10 seconds and time stamp the output into a file. Perhaps I will see gaps or unusually long response times and I can correlate that with the log files. Mark On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:09 PM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote: I've had servers that act like that.. usually they're over heating, completely I/O bound, or swapping due to low available memory. ** ** On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: Nope - everything just stops - ping waits for a response, web services just wait for the server, file transfers stop and wait...as if time just stopped for the server, then starts again without any errors being evident. Mark ** ** On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Stephen wrote: Can you do
Re: How to get ethernet connection?
well you could try manually setting your DNS entries to Google's DNS and that might get you a step farther. because those responses tell me you are having DNS look-up issues. https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/ IPv4 addresses: 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:48 AM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com wrote: From the errors, it sounds like you're not getting good DNS servers. What does cat /etc/resolv.conf tell you? On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:17 AM, j...@actionline.com wrote: Well, with endless experimentation, I finally got a *partial* solution. What distro are you setting up? I've tried two dozen live CDs and a few live flash sticks. Same problem with all of them. A) Do you have link light on the card and router? There is a link light lit on the router, none on the computer. B) What does the last few entries in dmesg show you? I'll reply to the rest of your suggestions later, but what I discovered was that after booting windows 7 (yuck) and then trying my PCLinuxOS live CD, the ethernet connection was actually working (partially). But it seems to be very selective in what access I can get. I only have the Konqueror browser available on the Live CD. With it, I can access google.com but no other websites. From google, I can find very few other websites that I can access. Most return an error message saying: The requested operation could not be completed -- Unknown host go figure. I also tried: firefox.com (to try to download it). The mozilla website will launch, but no further actions are possible. This is really bizarre. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- James McPhee jmc...@gmail.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Strange Server Behavior
Can you do access any other services hosted by the server during this time? Or even an extended ping? On Jun 25, 2012 9:53 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I have a headless server running Linux version 2.6.32-5-686 (Debian 2.6.32-45) (da...@debian.org) (gcc version 4.3.5 (Debian 4.3.5-4) and no X or window manager, and I have noticed in the past couple of days that when I ssh in the server it occasionally stops responding for a minute or two, then comes back as if nothing had happened. It is a random event - maybe once an hour. I cannot find anything in the logs - no error messages. There is nothing wrong with the machine where I initiated the ssh session, and it is not connected to ssh. The server completely stops responding, then comes back as if nothing had happened. How would I go about diagnosing this problem? Thanks, Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Strange Server Behavior
I wonder if that is so on the server internally are there log entries during that time? On Jun 25, 2012 10:00 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: Nope - everything just stops - ping waits for a response, web services just wait for the server, file transfers stop and wait...as if time just stopped for the server, then starts again without any errors being evident. Mark On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Can you do access any other services hosted by the server during this time? Or even an extended ping? On Jun 25, 2012 9:53 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I have a headless server running Linux version 2.6.32-5-686 (Debian 2.6.32-45) (da...@debian.org) (gcc version 4.3.5 (Debian 4.3.5-4) and no X or window manager, and I have noticed in the past couple of days that when I ssh in the server it occasionally stops responding for a minute or two, then comes back as if nothing had happened. It is a random event - maybe once an hour. I cannot find anything in the logs - no error messages. There is nothing wrong with the machine where I initiated the ssh session, and it is not connected to ssh. The server completely stops responding, then comes back as if nothing had happened. How would I go about diagnosing this problem? Thanks, Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT Verizon Smart Phones
Well vz on my trip to mission lake never lost data/voice On Jun 24, 2012 10:50 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: What about service - like out in rural areas. Between here and Tucson. I like T-Mobile's plan and price points, however I am concerned about coverage. Please share your thoughts. Thanks! Keith Smith --- On *Sun, 6/24/12, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz* wrote: From: Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz Subject: Re: OT Verizon Smart Phones To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Sunday, June 24, 2012, 9:22 AM As a point of comparison, t-mobile offers an unlimited voice, text, and data plan for 2 phones for $140/month. Unlimited data means 2 gb at 4g speeds, and if you exceed that, they just throttle you back to 2g at no additional charge. They have lots of good android smart phones available (no iphones). I have had 4 phones with then for many many years, and I keep renewing every 2 years. Don't go to a franchise store unless you know it is a good one. Go to a corporate store for best service. Mark On Jun 23, 2012 8:42 PM, Lyle Tuttle l.tut...@cox.nethttp://mc/compose?to=l.tut...@cox.net wrote: We have two Verizon HTC Thunderbolts - new in Feb 2011. $174/month, unlimited everything.voice, text, data...' Have never had it freeze; rebooted on its own once but I think that was an update. Worst problem is battery life.very short, even with larger battery. One day will go all day, next day need to charge twice in one day - low usage.go figure. Did you know verizon has a box that will serve as your phone? $20/mo unlimited calls in/out..it received via cell signal and you plug your phone into it.and US Cellular has a small deck of cards, only half as thick Samsung hot spot$25 for up to 2 gig of data/month I learned the above after bad storm left sis-in-law without phone or internet for 4 days..guess what she has now!!? At 02:12 PM 6/22/2012, James Dugger wrote: I have been with Verizion ever since our other carrirer was buoght by them in the mid nineties. I have had a Driod and currently have a Droid X. I can't really compare the difference between carriers in dropped calls but we get are share of dropped calls as well. My wife and son have the iphone 4s and love it. My wife had an older Droid and it used to drop calls more than here iphone. Having used both (my wife's iphone and my Droid X) my comparison would be as follows: Screen Freeze Droid - this happens quite often on both the older and newer Droids (though not as much on the X) iphone - rarely freezes. Keyboard key selection Droid - They both struggle (especially in the portrait keyboard) to pick the correct letter/number. iphone - Even with fat fingers it is uncanny to me how the portrait keyboard can still seem to pick the right letter/number Text completion Droid - Okay iphone - Great slightly faster Animatromics (screen responsiveness) Droid - slight hesitancy at times iphone - smooth and quick I have no experience with HTC however my brother has the Samsung Nexus II through Version and says that it runs circles around his old Droid, and is much closer to the iphone with respect to hardware responsiveness and features. Since the versions of OS Android is somewhat splintered across different devices, there are a couple of other points to consider if an android phone is your preferred choice: Google owns Android and Motorola ( Droid ), but Nexus is a Google sponsored partnership program for application and hardware development for the official release version of Android by Google. Currently Samsung is the Nexus partner. This may have changed and I may be wrong, but it is my understanding that anything Android with the Nexus name is part of this partnership with Google. On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Android brutally fc's inactive apparently to free space before that goes. On Jun 22, 2012 9:59 AM, Eric Cope eric.c...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=eric.c...@gmail.com wrote: Thats interesting to hear about not rebooting? Maybe the tide is changing. Someone I carpool with is also constantly having to close apps because the phone is out of memory. Does anyone else experience this? I think the iPhone forces stale apps out of memory automatically (I never get an out of memory notice). Can anyone comment on that? Eric On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: I forgot. On a rooted phone there is an app that will backup your root so you can switch root on and off easily so you can do some root only tasks and then unroot for day to day. Its called voodoo ota rootkeeper On Jun 22, 2012 8:46 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.comhttp://mc/compose
Re: Need Help setting up a VPN Connection to my LAN
Rtfm? It really depends on what your options are in the vpn device are. On Jun 24, 2012 1:00 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I need to take my laptop on several road trips, and I need to connect back to my home office LAN - all Debian machines. I am on COX cable with a BEFSX41 router. The BEFSX41 has a VPN option that I have never used. What do I need to add to my laptop (Debian) to talk to my home office LAN securely (ie through a VPN) using my BEFSX41? Obviously, I am a complete nube when it comes to setting up VPN access to my LAN. I have googled for some recommendations, but I have not found a good reference to follow. Thanks, Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT Verizon Smart Phones
I rather like motorola phone for physical hardware and build. Very durable excellent quality. But I hate their stock loadout. However they are popular enough with the tweaking crowd you are not stuck with it. I have owned and tinkered with the DROID x and bionic and love them both. And have heard nothing bad about the razer and razer max. I also suggest looking into the share everything plans also unlimited voice/text and tiered data. So you would be 40 for each smartphone plus data pack shared between your phones. On Jun 22, 2012 8:46 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, This is very OT. I have been with verizon for 8 years. Voice only. It has been 4 years since I upgraded our phones. It is just my wife and I. We are thinking of going with smart phones. A friend suggested HTC phones because of the better quality of speaker and mic. Voice quality is very important to me. As it stands we can get unlimited voice for $120/mo, 1000 texts for $10/mo and 2G of data for each phone for $20/ea/mo. Total is about $170/mo + tax and fees. I like verizon because they have always provided top of the line service. I've briefly looked at Straigt-Talk, T-Mobile, and Sprint. My fear with these providers is quality of the call, availability, and dropped calls. Any suggestions on which phone to get? From prior conversations on this list it seems a Droid phone is the way to go. I don't think I will ever want to take the time to root my phone, however you never know. What about phone apps and other things I might not be thinking about? I appreciate all the feedback you will provide! Thank you in advance for your help!! Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT Verizon Smart Phones
I frequently reboot the phone. But id say that is almost always my fault. On Jun 22, 2012 9:17 AM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, I rarely reboot my Android phone, have NEVER pulled my battery and have had better voice quality with both my Androids than with cell phones of the past. I had an HTC Incredible for two years and got a Motorola Droid Razr in February to go with 4G. The speakerphone on the Motorola is better, but I liked the software on the HTC better. My battery generally lasts 30-40 hours but I spend very little time actually talking on it. On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Eric Cope eric.c...@gmail.com wrote: I've been very happy with my iPhone 4. I rarely reboot my phone (every 2-3 months) and never have to pull the battery, which is not what I hear my android friends say. I'm happy with voice quality as well. Eric On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 8:45 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi, This is very OT. I have been with verizon for 8 years. Voice only. It has been 4 years since I upgraded our phones. It is just my wife and I. We are thinking of going with smart phones. A friend suggested HTC phones because of the better quality of speaker and mic. Voice quality is very important to me. As it stands we can get unlimited voice for $120/mo, 1000 texts for $10/mo and 2G of data for each phone for $20/ea/mo. Total is about $170/mo + tax and fees. I like verizon because they have always provided top of the line service. I've briefly looked at Straigt-Talk, T-Mobile, and Sprint. My fear with these providers is quality of the call, availability, and dropped calls. Any suggestions on which phone to get? From prior conversations on this list it seems a Droid phone is the way to go. I don't think I will ever want to take the time to root my phone, however you never know. What about phone apps and other things I might not be thinking about? I appreciate all the feedback you will provide! Thank you in advance for your help!! Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, always use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy) and not To: or CC:. Remove all addresses from the message body before sending a Forwarded message. This can prevent spy programs capturing addresses from the recipient list and message body. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT Verizon Smart Phones
I forgot. On a rooted phone there is an app that will backup your root so you can switch root on and off easily so you can do some root only tasks and then unroot for day to day. Its called voodoo ota rootkeeper On Jun 22, 2012 8:46 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, This is very OT. I have been with verizon for 8 years. Voice only. It has been 4 years since I upgraded our phones. It is just my wife and I. We are thinking of going with smart phones. A friend suggested HTC phones because of the better quality of speaker and mic. Voice quality is very important to me. As it stands we can get unlimited voice for $120/mo, 1000 texts for $10/mo and 2G of data for each phone for $20/ea/mo. Total is about $170/mo + tax and fees. I like verizon because they have always provided top of the line service. I've briefly looked at Straigt-Talk, T-Mobile, and Sprint. My fear with these providers is quality of the call, availability, and dropped calls. Any suggestions on which phone to get? From prior conversations on this list it seems a Droid phone is the way to go. I don't think I will ever want to take the time to root my phone, however you never know. What about phone apps and other things I might not be thinking about? I appreciate all the feedback you will provide! Thank you in advance for your help!! Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT Verizon Smart Phones
Android brutally fc's inactive apparently to free space before that goes. On Jun 22, 2012 9:59 AM, Eric Cope eric.c...@gmail.com wrote: Thats interesting to hear about not rebooting? Maybe the tide is changing. Someone I carpool with is also constantly having to close apps because the phone is out of memory. Does anyone else experience this? I think the iPhone forces stale apps out of memory automatically (I never get an out of memory notice). Can anyone comment on that? Eric On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: I forgot. On a rooted phone there is an app that will backup your root so you can switch root on and off easily so you can do some root only tasks and then unroot for day to day. Its called voodoo ota rootkeeper On Jun 22, 2012 8:46 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, This is very OT. I have been with verizon for 8 years. Voice only. It has been 4 years since I upgraded our phones. It is just my wife and I. We are thinking of going with smart phones. A friend suggested HTC phones because of the better quality of speaker and mic. Voice quality is very important to me. As it stands we can get unlimited voice for $120/mo, 1000 texts for $10/mo and 2G of data for each phone for $20/ea/mo. Total is about $170/mo + tax and fees. I like verizon because they have always provided top of the line service. I've briefly looked at Straigt-Talk, T-Mobile, and Sprint. My fear with these providers is quality of the call, availability, and dropped calls. Any suggestions on which phone to get? From prior conversations on this list it seems a Droid phone is the way to go. I don't think I will ever want to take the time to root my phone, however you never know. What about phone apps and other things I might not be thinking about? I appreciate all the feedback you will provide! Thank you in advance for your help!! Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: raid (was RE: OT: Dell disks)
I have never liked raid 5 but can still see its use. And while you are 100% correct I have the statement that raid is not a back up it is a good feature for performance needs and overall uptime so you can keep running in case of single disk failure. Which I have dealt with. On Jun 21, 2012 8:45 AM, Carruth, Rusty rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com wrote: ** -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us on behalf of Eric Shubert On 06/19/2012 09:13 PM, Michael Butash wrote: So yeah, no raid is perfect... ... -mb I use software raid strictly on servers, which are headless (of course). ... I don't know why anyone would run SSDs in a raid. RAID IS NOT A BACKUP. Rather than my guessing, would you mind explaining your reasons? I'm curious. ... BL, *never* use fakeraid, and avoid raid-5 if possible. Disk space is no longer expensive enough to justify using raid-5. Wow, someone else who agrees with me - IMHO, if its important enough to need raid, don't try to skimp and save a few bucks so you can lose your data! Rusty --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Dell disks
Working with dells at work. Including the 620 any hdd will do. The motherboard/case combination however is all sorts of proprietary. But the 620 took Ubuntu 12.04 with gnome 3 like a champ. On Jun 18, 2012 10:24 PM, Mark Jarvis m.jar...@cox.net wrote: I'm considering buying a Dell desktop (Inspiron 620), but a few years ago I was warned off them because Dell did something different to their disks so that you had to buy replacement/additional disks only from Dell. Any chance that it's still true? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: An introduction and RFC on education path.
One of the most educational exercises i have ever take to learn Linux was the old school minimal install of Gentoo. Their process was one of the best documented install guides i have ever seen. and it presented allot of good launch points to learn more about your computer and the way Linux interacts with it. (both from troubleshooting pebcak, and from general curiosity). It is a process that for those who learn by doing I cannot recommend strongly enough. -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: (username) is not in the sudoers file.
What he said :-) On Jun 18, 2012 6:16 PM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote: That would work. Alternately add yourself to the wheel group and uncomment that line in the /etc/sudoers file. On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 5:45 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote: When I tried to use sudo, I saw this message: (username) is not in the sudoers file Searching the 'net for a solution, I found that perhaps I can just edit /etc/sudoer to add this line: joe ALL=(ALL) ALL to get sudo to work. Is that correct or ill advised? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Problems with Ubuntu 12.04 Networking on Latitude D620
I had similar issues with a D630. and it looks like 12.04 was not installing the right drivers for the broadcom wireless. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604868page=58 they detail some easy steps to resolve. just plug in via Ethernet for a few min and bingo. just verify you have the same wireless device From the tail end of my lspci output: 09:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5755M Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 02) 0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01) On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: I installed Ubuntu 12.04 on a Dell Latitude D620. I didn't expect any issues based on googling this laptop and Linux. However, I cannot get Ethernet or wifi to work. lspci shows the correct hardware Ethernet controller; Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5752 Gigibit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 2) Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01) I went into Network Connections and added a Wired connection and gave it a name and selected the MAc address for eth0 (in the drop down list), and selected automatic (DHCP) as the method for iP4 I looked at /etc/network/interfaces auto lo iface lo inet loopback so I tried adding auto eth0 but no luck. grep -i eth /var/log/syslog gives Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): new Ethernet device (driver:'tg3' ifindex: 2) Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): exported as /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/Devices/0 Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): mow managed Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): device state change: unmanaged - unavailable (reason 'managed') [10 2 0 2] Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): bringing up device Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): preparing device Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): deactivating device (reason 'managed') [2] kernel: [1815.448547] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready kernel: [1815.449321] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready I looked at some forum posts on how to fix this, and the best I found was to edit NetworkManager.conf and set managed=true (it came false out of the box). That did not help. Thanks for any other suggestions you may have! Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Problems with Ubuntu 12.04 Networking on Latitude D620
You have narfled the Garthunk! On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: Wireless is now working, based on the info in this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604868page=58 Thanks! Mark -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Android file creation permissions
If that share is set to use specific permissions then the app cannot make them something else. So the trick is to force a specific set of permissions via samba. This I know can be done. Just cannot remember how I did it. On Jun 12, 2012 1:19 PM, Shawn Badger sh...@badger.pro wrote: I have tried that form the smb.conf, but it seems to be overridden by the app. Here is the snipit from my smb.conf for the share: [lab-test] comment = Lab test path = /mnt/lab-test browseable = yes public = yes guest ok = yes share modes = yes create mode = 666 directory mode = 777 writeable = yes Just so you know this is a test for a project I am working on, hence the share comping from /mnt and the very laxed permissions. So please no comments about it being really insecure. On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote: On 06/12/2012 08:23 AM, Shawn Badger wrote: I have an Android tablet running Cyanogenmod 7 that is using CifsManager to mount a share. That all works well, but the problem I am having is when an application (Jotta Text editor in this case) creates a file on the share it creates it with a 600 file permission, but when I create it from a terminal it creates the file with a 666 file permission which is what I want. I am trying to figure out how to change the way the application is saving the files. I have set the smb.conf so the default file mode is 666 and also put file_mode=666 in the options for CifsManager, but the applications seem to ignore those settings. Does anyone know how to get the applications (without changing the modifying it) to stop overriding the default? I usually control this on the server with the create mask option for the file share. I expect this would take precedence over whatever the clients may specify. YMMV of course, depending on versions etc. Note, permission bits can also be affected by how the server is configured (globally or per share) to map dos file attributes. If dos file attributes are a concern, I prefer storing them in the extended attributes area, instead of mapping them to *nix permission bits: map archive = no map hidden = no map read only = no map system = no store dos attributes = yes dos filemode = yes HTH. -- -Eric 'shubes' --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Suggestions for re-tasking a Dell PowerEdge 2450
be a nice low end lamp or firewall. On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 2:20 PM, James Dugger james.dug...@gmail.com wrote: I have inherited a Dell PowerEdge 2450 and want to re-task it somewhere in my network running as a linux server. It was being used two months ago as a VPN server running Windows 2003 Server. Here are the secs: 2 - 866 MHz Pentium Processors Bus 133MHz cache 256 KB 2048 MB ECC SDRAM built in adaptec hardware RAID controller SCSI dual channel backplane - w/1 daughter card installed 4 - 3.5 hot swap drivebays -- James --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Android file creation permissions
woot. On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Shawn Badger sh...@badger.pro wrote: A quick google on the forcing permissions and I found this force create mode = 666 I added it to my smb.conf and it works!! Thanks for the point in the right direction, evedently create mode isn't enough by itself you need to add force in front of it. Now the entry looks like: [lab-test] comment = Lab test path = /mnt/lab-test browseable = yes public = yes guest ok = yes share modes = yes force create mode = 666 directory mode = 777 writeable = yes On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: If that share is set to use specific permissions then the app cannot make them something else. So the trick is to force a specific set of permissions via samba. This I know can be done. Just cannot remember how I did it. On Jun 12, 2012 1:19 PM, Shawn Badger sh...@badger.pro wrote: I have tried that form the smb.conf, but it seems to be overridden by the app. Here is the snipit from my smb.conf for the share: [lab-test] comment = Lab test path = /mnt/lab-test browseable = yes public = yes guest ok = yes share modes = yes create mode = 666 directory mode = 777 writeable = yes Just so you know this is a test for a project I am working on, hence the share comping from /mnt and the very laxed permissions. So please no comments about it being really insecure. On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote: On 06/12/2012 08:23 AM, Shawn Badger wrote: I have an Android tablet running Cyanogenmod 7 that is using CifsManager to mount a share. That all works well, but the problem I am having is when an application (Jotta Text editor in this case) creates a file on the share it creates it with a 600 file permission, but when I create it from a terminal it creates the file with a 666 file permission which is what I want. I am trying to figure out how to change the way the application is saving the files. I have set the smb.conf so the default file mode is 666 and also put file_mode=666 in the options for CifsManager, but the applications seem to ignore those settings. Does anyone know how to get the applications (without changing the modifying it) to stop overriding the default? I usually control this on the server with the create mask option for the file share. I expect this would take precedence over whatever the clients may specify. YMMV of course, depending on versions etc. Note, permission bits can also be affected by how the server is configured (globally or per share) to map dos file attributes. If dos file attributes are a concern, I prefer storing them in the extended attributes area, instead of mapping them to *nix permission bits: map archive = no map hidden = no map read only = no map system = no store dos attributes = yes dos filemode = yes HTH. -- -Eric 'shubes' --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Urgent: need to ID some Network Manager icons - STAT!
Those are indeed ad hoc hp machines and a number of people don't even know they are even broadcasting. I have noticed it most with hp. And it can be suprusing how far they will reach... On Jun 12, 2012 8:58 PM, Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.net wrote: From: Jim March 1.jim.ma...@gmail.com IF those [active wireless cards] are in fact ad-hoc, that's potentially bad. Cell 02 - Address: 6E:4B:8D:A4:25:B0 Encryption key:off ESSID:HPC4380E Mode:Ad-Hoc Based on what you posted, I'd be inclined to think that some people near the voting machines had their laptops on and had forgotten to turn their wireless cards off, or were too dumb to turn their wireless off, or didn't know they were supposed to turn their wireless off. Remember that people being dumb is far more common than people being malicious. If they were actually doing something they weren't supposed to be doing, they probably would've turned some sort of encryption on, after all -- Matt G / Dances With Crows The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Urgent: need to ID some Network Manager icons - STAT!
If you want to do some wireless experiments google antenna :-) On Jun 12, 2012 10:47 PM, Derek Trotter expat.arizo...@gmail.com wrote: I read about a test once where a group in Las Vegas wanted to see how far they could make off the shelf wifi gear reach. One team set up on one of the mountains around Las Vegas. The other on a mountain in Utah over 100 miles away. They used 12 foot satellite dishes as the reflectors. Here's one http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2007/06/w_wifi_record_2/ http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9730708-7.html?part=rsssubj=newstag=2547-1_3-0-5 about a guy in Venezuela getting a connection between two computers 237 miles apart. Then of course there's always RFC 1149. http://news.cnet.com/2100-1001-257064.html On 6/12/2012 21:48, Stephen wrote: Those are indeed ad hoc hp machines and a number of people don't even know they are even broadcasting. I have noticed it most with hp. And it can be suprusing how far they will reach... --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ESM
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