Re: ditching Apple products due to boycotts?
It should be marked as OT. The thread doesn't really have anything to do with Linux anymore. Sent from my BlackBerry Slowphone provided by Allfail -Original Message- From: j...@actionline.com Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 18:32:56 To: Main PLUG discussion listplug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Subject: Re: ditching Apple products due to boycotts? This is the best topic (the content, not the subject line) that I have ever seen on PLUG ... even if it is Off Topic. http://www.phoenixrally.com/ is the best thing I've seen happen in the nine years I've lived in Arizona. I hope everyone on this list will forward this web address to everybody they know and urge everyone to sign this petition. http://www.numbersusa.com/petition?ID=15 --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: which t-mobile android phone?
I thought Tempe Stammtische is on Tues? Sent from my BlackBerry Slowphone provided by Allfail -Original Message- From: Sir Light sirli...@cox.net Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:09:46 To: Main PLUG discussion listplug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Subject: Re: which t-mobile android phone? Err Make that tonight's Stammtisch in Tempe. :) Jon Sir Light sirli...@cox.net wrote: hans, If it helps any, I can be at the Westside Stammtisch as I do have a HTC Hero for you to look at. Jon der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote: Am 17. Mär, 2010 schwätzte Joseph Sinclair so: Not sure what something similar to a traditional Palm device is (I assume you mean the Treo phones, not an ancient Palm V or similar). I don't know :). Actually, I think it was a Palm V she had. It wasn't actually a phone. Well, we still have one. Battery died and she didn't want to pay 80% of the cost of a new device to fix the battery. If you mean a Treo phone, then a Motorola Cliq might be better, although it's not nearly as nice hardware-wise as the Nexus One. Blackberries are the only smartphones that really look like the Treo phones anymore. She's seen the storm. Blackberries are now out. After what Alan said about only running blessed programs on the Motorolas, Motorola is out. I keep hoping Motorola will clue in rather than die off, but, alas, it seems determined to die. ATT is the only major carrier that I know for certain can do voice and data simultaneously. Hmm, might have to consider that. I've been told the adroid will still work on ATT, but not as well at t-mobile. I don't need blinding speeds and am actually more concerned about latency. I do need to be able to use my phone for an Internet connection on days like today and yesterday when Cox is down for the count. Also for days when I'm on the road somewhere. I have occasional access to a MiFi from Verizon. That works well enough for my needs. It was far more reliable in the hospital than the hospital provided wifi. Unfortunately the device is in Atlanta this week, so I've been stranded. For contact sync at close range, I think most Android phones are at least capable of this, but you might need to add an app for it from Android Marketplace. I'm fine with apps from the marketplace. For my wife's phone I want to do everything through official channels, so the carrier can do tech support :). For my phone, I will want extra features and realize I'll likely have to go beyond stock for some of them. For other small transfers, I think you may have to use a web-service or email (which would work over WiFi, but not bluetooth) as an intermediary (unless you write your own application for it). If we can ssh in via wifi, I can build whatever we need :). Any phone-to-phone contact would probably not work unless both phones are unlocked and have the capability (e.g. two unlocked Android phones with an app for sync via bluetooth). OK. I'm more interested in it for me interacting with other people than for her phone. ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/Classeshttp://www.TwoGeekTechs.com/ # Director of Engineering, FonWallet Transaction Solutions, Inc. # We now return you to your regularly scheduled paranoia... --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: PLUG Group on Identi.ca
Twitter isn't Free software. --Original Message-- From: Bill Lindley Sender: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To: Main PLUG discussion list ReplyTo: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Re: PLUG Group on Identi.ca Sent: Nov 20, 2009 7:20 AM Why are we on a Canadian website? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss Sent from my BlackBerry Slowphone provided by Allfail --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Nokia N900
Actually it was last month. :P I said I wanted one to make iPhone users jealous of my flash playback. Alas, there's no sign of when if at all it will be available stateside. :( Sent from my BlackBerry Slowphone provided by Allfail -Original Message- From: stor...@storkus.com Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:46:03 To: Main PLUG discussion listplug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Subject: Nokia N900 I'm very surprised no one has brought this device up for discussion yet! It would appear to blow away the current Android and OpenMoko devices by packing a 600 MHz ARM proc, 256MB DRAM, a huge wad of flash, 802.11bg AND bluetooth, and--biggest of all--quad-band GSM AND a 3G radio compatible with T-Mobile USA. It also has USB2 and, curiously (I don't know exactly what it is) TV-Out. On the software side, it runs their distro called Maemo which, GUI-wise, has Qt at the core, though you can still run GTK apps like its predecessor the N810. It's almost entirely free software and hackable, one of the biggest ones that aren't is macromedia flash being included (presumably so you can play Youtube video--I couldn't see playing flash games on an ARM...). The way I (and a lot of others) see it, this is like the early OLPC's or eeepc's in terms of horsepower and (somewhat) memory. More than one person out there has suggested it could be used as a sort of hand-held file server. The geek in me is going even more nuts over buying this than the Sheevaplug since I could obviously do so much more with it. The few reviewers that have gotten their hands on it so far were mostly morons that obviously couldn't fathom the potential that could be unlocked from it. For instance, the keyboard gets griped at a lot. So? Get one of those roll-up USB keyboards from Thinkgeek: since it's a lightweight distro (Busybox was explicitly mentioned) and (hopefully full) kernel in there, I would presume that USBHID hasn't been neutered. So what do you all think? My current phone (a Motorola V3xx) is still working ok, and the N900 is nowhere near cheap...but, damn, it's making me drool! Should I get it or not? Are one of you planning on it? Mike P.S. Another thing not discussed here: Slackware-13's out. :) --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT - Opera KFC free meal giveaway, ends today
Joe's Real BBQ is giving away free dinner tonight if you don't mind a 2hr wait... Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel -Original Message- From: James Finstrom jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 11:57:40 To: Main PLUG discussion listplug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Subject: Re: OT - Opera KFC free meal giveaway, ends today On that note I have eaten free 5 times over the last few weeks simply by watching google trends and twitter trends... On 5/6/09, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.unthinkfc.com/ its a free meal.. and geeks like free food. -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- James Finstrom Rhino Equipment Corp. http://rhinoequipment.com ~ http://postug.com Phone: 1-877-RHINO-T1 ~ FAX: +1 (480) 961-1826 Twitter: http://twitter.com/rhinoequipment IP: gu...@asterisk.rhinoequipment.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
DeLUG One has arrived at the Westin.
Any other PHX peeps here at SCaLE? Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: do NOT feed the trolls
Well put; This whole flame war kept my blackberry vibrating off the hook and drained my battery in half the usual time. We all have better things to spend our time on and even better ways to further our wonderfully diverse causes than an internet arguement. Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel -Original Message- From: der.hans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:43:26 To: quatschPLUG-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us Subject: do NOT feed the trolls moin moin, once again, I get an appropriate random sig quote for the email. Flame wars like this are easy to avoid. First and foremost, don't respond to trolling. The original post in the thread was completely off-topic and merely a troll post. I'm not characterizing the poster as a troll, just that one post. Ignoring the post would have been sufficient and appropriate. That goes for both people who agree with the post and people who disagree with it. Secondly, if you find yourself in a flame war and absolutely needing to respond, sit on it for a while. Give yourself a cool down period before posting. Thirdly, for every post, please consider how it will be received. This goes quintuply for posts into flame wars, especially in a limited medium like email. Does your post actually add content? Does it add name-calling or other inappropriate fuel to the fire? If it's doing the latter, please take time to remove the fuel. There is no need to attack anyone on this list! We have a variety of opinions on politics, religions and gastronomy in the group. We also a variety of opinions on far more important topics like editors, mail clients and programming languages :). That's all fine. Fourthly, ignore threads and posts you don't care about. This isn't about having thick skin, it's just time management :). I do appreciate those who try to read all messages, which I have also done in the past. But, if something just has no value to you please feel free to ignore it. Fifthly, realize that discussions are generally a good thing. Airing opionions and getting different perspectives is actually one of the values of PLUG. We just need to try to keep them constructive and factual. Listing good features of your favorite $application is good. Listing actual failings of $other_application is also good, e.g. editors that behave badly and wipe out files when the filesystem fills up. I personally don't appreciate the timing on the flame war. I spent Tuesday night doing something productive, helping with election monitoring. Now, rather than writing up what I observed as I was supposed to, I need to deal with an off-topic flame war. Most of the rest of you can just ignore it. If you don't like the thread use your mail client to ignore the thread or add a filter or just do like I did and skip all the mail with the flame war's thread. As one of the people who works to keep PLUG working I can't just ignore the flame war's consequences. We are a volunteer group with very few volunteers keeping things running. I find myself in a position of needing to find a technical solution to a social problem. Not a good position. We are always completely open to other volunteers helping out! Even with more volunteers we will be dependent on the PLUG community being considerate of others. There's no practical way we can keep up with dedicated attempts to cause problems. We depend on the community self-regulating. The community, in turn, depends on individuals to self-regulate. It's easy to have a destructive influence. Citizenship is striving to have a constructive influence. I know I sometimes fail in this, but I certainly try. I hope this email is taken as an attempt to be constructive. ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty. -- Thomas Jefferson --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Any gamers?
HD movie downloads from the XBox live marketplace can take up a fair chunk of space. FYI though, they are covered in DRM and FAIL... Just like Blu-Ray... --Original Message-- From: farli Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PLUG discussion list ReplyTo: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: OT: Any gamers? Sent: Sep 2, 2008 12:00 PM I have a Wii and I am thinking about getting another console. Im leaning to a PS3 because of its blue ray player. My question is why would anyone need 60G (the Xbox 360) or 80G of storage? tia jim --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Linux podcasts
I'll have to give that a try. Right now I subscribe to the Linux Action show, which is indeed full of Linux action and WIN. --Original Message-- From: Alan Dayley Sender: To: Main PLUG discussion list ReplyTo: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Linux podcasts Sent: Sep 1, 2008 5:16 PM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Surfing around rebuilding my podcast subscriptions, I came across this site with a long list of podcasts with Linux content. I have not listened to any of them, so I cannot vouch for any of them, except FLOSS Weekly which I rather enjoy. http://www.thelinuxlink.net/ Fill up your media player for that commute! Alan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIvIWJDQw/VSQuFZYRAuPxAJsEcpcxmkaMKh60HvHIcveVPOln1wCdGfpk u+VicTBFhWhsR5FTDStaKoE= =8XO4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Have you seen this ad?
Link is relevant to my interests but please add an OT to the subject line next time. :) Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel -Original Message- From: Stephen Wiebelhaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:54:31 To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Subject: Have you seen this ad? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: West-side mtg has a housewarming party -- RESENT???
Does this place have teh wireless interwebz? Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel -Original Message- From: Tuna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:41:08 To: Main PLUG discussion listplug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Subject: West-side mtg has a housewarming party -- RESENT??? Helloes again! I'm sitting here at the Stammtisch (at time of writing), and Hans has commanded me to tell you guys something. This very something is wicked and amazing. It's wicking and amazed. Here's the spoonful of gelato: West Side meeting is somewhere else next week. It's new habitat is located at a space in a place called Bertos. They serve tequila and cat, so I figure it should be a good place for a nerdfest like this. http://is.gd/1MUc That there's a compressed URL. It will automagically transport you through the intrawebz to a page with the address and an embedded Google Maps thingy-Mick-Jagger (apparently this place doesn't have a webshyte. (Perhaps a new client for somebody? .). kthxbai -tuna P.S. Do take notice of the lack of cats nearby the restaurant. Really whets one's appetite. P.P.S. Woah, man, first time I sent this, I got a failure notice. Hopefully you'll actually get it this time. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
