Re: Best professional WEB site tool out there...
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 7:44 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Hello collective intelligence: This is the simple plan: To make a professional looking WEB site with minimum effort and maximum flexibility. It is broken down as: A (sort of) knowledgeable person kick-starts the site and then handles maintenance and minor upgrades to monkeys. What's the tool out there that will allow a non-technical person to maintain most of a WEB site with the least amount of pain? Thanks! ET --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss My two picks: 1. Joomla 2. Drupal -- JD Austin Twin Geckos Technology Services LLC j...@twingeckos.com 480.288.8195x201 http://www.twingeckos.com Samuel Goldwynhttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/samuel_goldwyn.html - I'm willing to admit that I may not always be right, but I am never wrong. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Best professional WEB site tool out there...
Plone/Zope. You can configure almost everything with its built in web interface, or add more customization using Python. Mark On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 7:44 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Hello collective intelligence: This is the simple plan: To make a professional looking WEB site with minimum effort and maximum flexibility. It is broken down as: A (sort of) knowledgeable person kick-starts the site and then handles maintenance and minor upgrades to monkeys. What's the tool out there that will allow a non-technical person to maintain most of a WEB site with the least amount of pain? Thanks! ET --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Best professional WEB site tool out there...
From: keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com --- On Tue, 5/19/09, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote: To make a professional looking WEB site with minimum effort and maximum flexibility. A (sort of) knowledgeable person kick-starts the site and then hands maintenance and minor upgrades to monkeys. If this is how you do it, it'll eventually look like the whole thing was put together by monkeys. Also, the requirements given are kind of sparse. How frequently will this be updated? How many people are doing the updating? What's the purpose of the site? Details Count, and you've provided minimal info here. Joomla, Drupal Drupal really hits the DB hard. How much traffic is this thing going to get? WordPress allows one to drop a template into a directory and go into the control panel and activate it. WordPress allows for plugins and they work the same way as templates, just drop in the right directory and activate wordpress works (heck, I use it), but the themes available may have odd warts in them. It might not work as well as you want if you have a ton of authors. There are spamming bastards out there who inject crap into the comments section of any wordpress site they find, so you have to deal with that as well. There are multiple ways to do that, of course. There is a learning curve with all of these. Yep. -- Matt G / Dances With Crows The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Best professional WEB site tool out there...
hire/barter with a designer? On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.netwrote: From: keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com --- On Tue, 5/19/09, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote: To make a professional looking WEB site with minimum effort and maximum flexibility. A (sort of) knowledgeable person kick-starts the site and then hands maintenance and minor upgrades to monkeys. If this is how you do it, it'll eventually look like the whole thing was put together by monkeys. Also, the requirements given are kind of sparse. How frequently will this be updated? How many people are doing the updating? What's the purpose of the site? Details Count, and you've provided minimal info here. Joomla, Drupal Drupal really hits the DB hard. How much traffic is this thing going to get? WordPress allows one to drop a template into a directory and go into the control panel and activate it. WordPress allows for plugins and they work the same way as templates, just drop in the right directory and activate wordpress works (heck, I use it), but the themes available may have odd warts in them. It might not work as well as you want if you have a ton of authors. There are spamming bastards out there who inject crap into the comments section of any wordpress site they find, so you have to deal with that as well. There are multiple ways to do that, of course. There is a learning curve with all of these. Yep. -- Matt G / Dances With Crows The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Best professional WEB site tool out there...
--- On Tue, 5/19/09, Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.net wrote: From: Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.net Subject: Re: Best professional WEB site tool out there... To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 12:29 PM From: keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com --- On Tue, 5/19/09, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote: To make a professional looking WEB site with minimum effort and maximum flexibility. A (sort of) knowledgeable person kick-starts the site and then hands maintenance and minor upgrades to monkeys. If this is how you do it, it'll eventually look like the whole thing was put together by monkeys. Also, the requirements given are kind of sparse. How frequently will this be updated? How many people are doing the updating? What's the purpose of the site? Details Count, and you've provided minimal info here. Joomla, Drupal Drupal really hits the DB hard. How much traffic is this thing going to get? WordPress allows one to drop a template into a directory and go into the control panel and activate it. WordPress allows for plugins and they work the same way as templates, just drop in the right directory and activate wordpress works (heck, I use it), but the themes available may have odd warts in them. It might not work as well as you want if you have a ton of authors. That is a good point. According to their documentation they say there is a performance degradation if you start your permalink with the postname or category name. This implies the WordPress engine is flowed. It implies that there is an inefficiency in the way posts are retrieved and this inefficiency is multiplied if you do not use a numeric field to start the permalink. WordPress falls short in the SEO area because of this and a few other short comings. However some if not all of the SEO short comings seen to be less relevant because it seems the search engines like WordPress and may be giving blogs a preference over non-blog sites, possibly because they are web 2.0. This point is hard to support though, it is just a theory. Keith There are spamming bastards out there who inject crap into the comments section of any wordpress site they find, so you have to deal with that as well. There are multiple ways to do that, of course. There is a learning curve with all of these. Yep. -- Matt G / Dances With Crows The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Best professional WEB site tool out there...
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 7:44 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: Hello collective intelligence: This is the simple plan: To make a professional looking WEB site with minimum effort and maximum flexibility. It is broken down as: A (sort of) knowledgeable person kick-starts the site and then handles maintenance and minor upgrades to monkeys. What's the tool out there that will allow a non-technical person to maintain most of a WEB site with the least amount of pain? I've always been a bit partial to Movable Type. Kevin -- ke...@kevinspencer.org --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
