Re: Breaking in to a Harddrive
Alan Dayley wrote: If the hardware manufacturer implemented the ATA spec correctly, the password cannot be bypassed by any normal means. That is, after all, what the password is supposed to do. With special knowledge of the specific hard drive model, not just the manufacturer, the model and even the specific firmware, one can find where the password is stored and erase or nullify it. Oh, and you might need special equipment to get to that password on the platters. To put it another way, throw this hard drive away and go buy a new one. It'll be less costly of your time. Alan I have to agree with Alan on this one. If you have a passworded laptop hard drive, you might as well toss it and buy a new one. I had one that I experimented with just to see if I could wipe it out entirely, and had no such luck. I even exchanged the board with an identical drive, and in the end ran strontium magnets over the disk itself (like I said, it was just an experiment - I didn't need the drive, and it was useless to me as it was) Big NADA~ The password is stored in a special section of the disk itself, and is virtually impossible to get rid of by any means available to ordinary human beings. Save yourself the headaches, and get a new drive from Newegg or Geeks. They're cheaper than your wasted time. Stu On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:51 AM, James Finstrom jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com wrote: Greetings All, So my dad bought a Hitachi Travelstar 5K100 and apparently the drive is password locked at a hardware level and requires some sort of voodoo to report back anything other than vendor data. Anyway I guess there is a byte code you send to the drive and then a password then you live happily ever after. Needless to say we don't have the password. I am sure there is data on the drive but none that we own so don't care if all data is lost. Looking for suggestions on breaking in or clearing the drive. Again total data loss is ok. Tried DD in case it was in the partition table and no dice.. -- James Finstrom --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Breaking in to a Harddrive
Greetings All, So my dad bought a Hitachi Travelstar 5K100 and apparently the drive is password locked at a hardware level and requires some sort of voodoo to report back anything other than vendor data. Anyway I guess there is a byte code you send to the drive and then a password then you live happily ever after. Needless to say we don't have the password. I am sure there is data on the drive but none that we own so don't care if all data is lost. Looking for suggestions on breaking in or clearing the drive. Again total data loss is ok. Tried DD in case it was in the partition table and no dice.. -- James Finstrom --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Breaking in to a Harddrive
get the Hitachi drive diagnostics and see if you can write 0's to the drive or contact Hitachi support or contact the seller of the drive thats about all i can think of, because firmware level passwords are pretty hard to circumvent. On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:51 AM, James Finstrom jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com wrote: Greetings All, So my dad bought a Hitachi Travelstar 5K100 and apparently the drive is password locked at a hardware level and requires some sort of voodoo to report back anything other than vendor data. Anyway I guess there is a byte code you send to the drive and then a password then you live happily ever after. Needless to say we don't have the password. I am sure there is data on the drive but none that we own so don't care if all data is lost. Looking for suggestions on breaking in or clearing the drive. Again total data loss is ok. Tried DD in case it was in the partition table and no dice.. -- James Finstrom --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Breaking in to a Harddrive
The last time this happened to me I just sent the drive back to the manufacturer under RMA and received a new drive in about a week. On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: get the Hitachi drive diagnostics and see if you can write 0's to the drive or contact Hitachi support or contact the seller of the drive thats about all i can think of, because firmware level passwords are pretty hard to circumvent. On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:51 AM, James Finstrom jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com wrote: Greetings All, So my dad bought a Hitachi Travelstar 5K100 and apparently the drive is password locked at a hardware level and requires some sort of voodoo to report back anything other than vendor data. Anyway I guess there is a byte code you send to the drive and then a password then you live happily ever after. Needless to say we don't have the password. I am sure there is data on the drive but none that we own so don't care if all data is lost. Looking for suggestions on breaking in or clearing the drive. Again total data loss is ok. Tried DD in case it was in the partition table and no dice.. -- James Finstrom --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Breaking in to a Harddrive
A warning: in my experience and that of others of late, Hitachi drives aren't that good. Worse than Samsung. Nowhere near as good as WD or Seagate. I wouldn't trust a Hitachi for anything really important. Jim --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Breaking in to a Harddrive
Ah remember we used to call them the death star drive - because they would burn out hot and fast :) On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Jim March 1.jim.ma...@gmail.com wrote: A warning: in my experience and that of others of late, Hitachi drives aren't that good. Worse than Samsung. Nowhere near as good as WD or Seagate. I wouldn't trust a Hitachi for anything really important. Jim --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Breaking in to a Harddrive
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Bryan O'Neal bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com wrote: Ah remember we used to call them the death star drive - because they would burn out hot and fast :) We're at a point now where brand new WD drives of respectable but not cutting-edge size are so damn cheap it's not funny. Honestly, if your time is halfway valuable and you have $80 or often even less (check NewEgg) it's worth using good stuff. Jim --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Breaking in to a Harddrive
Ah remember we used to call them the death star drive - because they would burn out hat and fast :) On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Jim March 1.jim.ma...@gmail.com wrote: A warning: in my experience and that of others of late, Hitachi drives aren't that good. Worse than Samsung. Nowhere near as good as WD or Seagate. I wouldn't trust a Hitachi for anything really important. Jim --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Breaking in to a Harddrive
If the hardware manufacturer implemented the ATA spec correctly, the password cannot be bypassed by any normal means. That is, after all, what the password is supposed to do. With special knowledge of the specific hard drive model, not just the manufacturer, the model and even the specific firmware, one can find where the password is stored and erase or nullify it. Oh, and you might need special equipment to get to that password on the platters. To put it another way, throw this hard drive away and go buy a new one. It'll be less costly of your time. Alan On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:51 AM, James Finstrom jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com wrote: Greetings All, So my dad bought a Hitachi Travelstar 5K100 and apparently the drive is password locked at a hardware level and requires some sort of voodoo to report back anything other than vendor data. Anyway I guess there is a byte code you send to the drive and then a password then you live happily ever after. Needless to say we don't have the password. I am sure there is data on the drive but none that we own so don't care if all data is lost. Looking for suggestions on breaking in or clearing the drive. Again total data loss is ok. Tried DD in case it was in the partition table and no dice.. -- James Finstrom --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
