Re: OT: How to send email that is both text-only and/or html?
From: Josef Lowder j...@actionline.com gm5...@gmail.com wrote: ALL HTML emails are auto deleted. Use inline or attach please. There are a ton of people who send HTML mail without text. Usually, these people are not worth listening to, but what do you do when you get a message that has the same content twice, once in HTML, and once in text? What is inline and how does one do that? (Is that a way to display images within a text email?) When you attach a file to a message, you can have your mail client put Content-Disposition: Inline or something like that in the headers before the base64-encoded data. The exact procedure depends on your mail client; in kmail, you right-click the file after you've attached it and pick the right option from the menu. The mail client that receives your message will then usually render that file below the message if the file's an image. pine/mutt wouldn't do that, of course. -- Matt G / Dances With Crows The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: How to send email that is both text-only and/or html?
I always send both... It's 2009, plain text was out in 1985 :) I prefer using firefox to gopher, media mail to text mail, and audio AND video over just audio. There is however a point when there's too much of a good thing. I have a very low tolerance to 'elf yourself' and other such media emails. JD On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Charles Jones charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org wrote: When you send email with the Thunderbird mail client, it gives you the option of sending it text only, or both text and html. -Charles On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:48 AM, Josef Lowder j...@actionline.com wrote: . Is there a way to send an email message that is both text-only and/or html? While I totally agree with keeping most email text only, and I very rarely use html ... it is nice to send a Christmas letter with embedded photos, and some nice holiday graphics. So what would be the best way to do that and still have a text-only version delivered to friends and family with dial-up only connections for whom emails with lots of photos might be a problem? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- JD Austin Twin Geckos Technology Services LLC j...@twingeckos.com Voice: 480.288.8195x201 Fax: 480.406.6753 http://www.twingeckos.com In order to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe. - Carl Saganhttp://feedproxy.google.com/%7Er/randomquotes/%7E3/G2PjcLJ0ONI/ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: How to send email that is both text-only and/or html?
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:00 AM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote: I always send both... It's 2009, plain text was out in 1985 :) And html allows you to send the gift that keeps on giving: http://www.technicalinfo.net/papers/CSS.html I prefer using firefox to gopher, media mail to text mail, and audio AND video over just audio. There is however a point when there's too much of a good thing. I have a very low tolerance to 'elf yourself' and other such media emails. JD On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Charles Jones charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org wrote: When you send email with the Thunderbird mail client, it gives you the option of sending it text only, or both text and html. -Charles On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:48 AM, Josef Lowder j...@actionline.com wrote: . Is there a way to send an email message that is both text-only and/or html? While I totally agree with keeping most email text only, and I very rarely use html ... it is nice to send a Christmas letter with embedded photos, and some nice holiday graphics. So what would be the best way to do that and still have a text-only version delivered to friends and family with dial-up only connections for whom emails with lots of photos might be a problem? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- JD Austin Twin Geckos Technology Services LLC j...@twingeckos.com Voice: 480.288.8195x201 Fax: 480.406.6753 http://www.twingeckos.com In order to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe. - Carl Saganhttp://feedproxy.google.com/%7Er/randomquotes/%7E3/G2PjcLJ0ONI/ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Skype: (623)239-3392 ATT: (503)754-4452 www.it-clowns.com Only the dead have seen the end of war. -Plato --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: How to send email that is both text-only and/or html?
Lisa Kachold wrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:00 AM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com mailto:j...@twingeckos.com wrote: I always send both... It's 2009, plain text was out in 1985 :) And html allows you to send the gift that keeps on giving: http://www.technicalinfo.net/papers/CSS.html Except XSS is specific to HTTP or Javascript, not strictly HTML. Email clients (with exceptions, old versions of Outlook for one example) usually either cannot load external content or won't do it without permission. Austin Wright. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: How to send email that is both text-only and/or html?
I think some of the standards have gone way overboard.. some things just don't need scripting - LIKE PDFs. As soon as you make it programmable you make it a medium for malware. The real issue is the paper bag security model that Microsuck has. JD On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:00 AM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote: I always send both... It's 2009, plain text was out in 1985 :) And html allows you to send the gift that keeps on giving: http://www.technicalinfo.net/papers/CSS.html I prefer using firefox to gopher, media mail to text mail, and audio AND video over just audio. There is however a point when there's too much of a good thing. I have a very low tolerance to 'elf yourself' and other such media emails. JD On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Charles Jones charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org wrote: When you send email with the Thunderbird mail client, it gives you the option of sending it text only, or both text and html. -Charles On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:48 AM, Josef Lowder j...@actionline.comwrote: . Is there a way to send an email message that is both text-only and/or html? While I totally agree with keeping most email text only, and I very rarely use html ... it is nice to send a Christmas letter with embedded photos, and some nice holiday graphics. So what would be the best way to do that and still have a text-only version delivered to friends and family with dial-up only connections for whom emails with lots of photos might be a problem? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- JD Austin Twin Geckos Technology Services LLC j...@twingeckos.com Voice: 480.288.8195x201 Fax: 480.406.6753 http://www.twingeckos.com In order to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe. - Carl Saganhttp://feedproxy.google.com/%7Er/randomquotes/%7E3/G2PjcLJ0ONI/ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Skype: (623)239-3392 ATT: (503)754-4452 www.it-clowns.com Only the dead have seen the end of war. -Plato --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- JD Austin Twin Geckos Technology Services LLC j...@twingeckos.com Voice: 480.288.8195x201 Fax: 480.406.6753 http://www.twingeckos.com It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. - J Krishnamurtihttp://feedproxy.google.com/%7Er/randomquotes/%7E3/G2PjcLJ0ONI/ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: How to send email that is both text-only and/or html?
Furthermore, it dos this for addressees with unknown preferences. The Thunderbird Address book lets you specify text/html/unknown as a preference for each person in your address book if you are so inclined. It also has a checkbox for allowing remote images in the email (don't do it to me BTW). I do not know what happens when you send an email to multiple people and you have them set to different preferences in the address book. Larry On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Charles Jones charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org wrote: When you send email with the Thunderbird mail client, it gives you the option of sending it text only, or both text and html. -Charles On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:48 AM, Josef Lowder j...@actionline.com wrote: . Is there a way to send an email message that is both text-only and/or html? While I totally agree with keeping most email text only, and I very rarely use html ... it is nice to send a Christmas letter with embedded photos, and some nice holiday graphics. So what would be the best way to do that and still have a text-only version delivered to friends and family with dial-up only connections for whom emails with lots of photos might be a problem? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it always to be kept alive. - Thomas Jefferson --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: How to send email that is both text-only and/or html?
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Austin William Wright diamondma...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: Lisa Kachold wrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:00 AM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com mailto:j...@twingeckos.com wrote: I always send both... It's 2009, plain text was out in 1985 :) And html allows you to send the gift that keeps on giving: http://www.technicalinfo.net/papers/CSS.html Except XSS is specific to HTTP or Javascript, not strictly HTML. Email clients (with exceptions, old versions of Outlook for one example) usually either cannot load external content or won't do it without permission. Correct, which is the subject of this thread! I must send out my Xmas card How to this year again. -- Skype: (623)239-3392 ATT: (503)754-4452 www.it-clowns.com Only the dead have seen the end of war. -Plato --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: How to send email that is both text-only and/or html?
Correction: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote: Here's a couple of better dissections of the subject: http://knol.google.com/k/a-short-history-of-cross-site-scripting-viruses-worms# And this CSRF gmail hack (still possible in the wild I believe): http://www.gnucitizen.org/blog/google-gmail-e-mail-hijack-technique/ That one was patched, this one is still active: http://darkreading.com/security/vulnerabilities/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=215800241 On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Austin William Wright diamondma...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: Lisa Kachold wrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:00 AM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com mailto:j...@twingeckos.com wrote: I always send both... It's 2009, plain text was out in 1985 :) And html allows you to send the gift that keeps on giving: http://www.technicalinfo.net/papers/CSS.html Except XSS is specific to HTTP or Javascript, not strictly HTML. Email clients (with exceptions, old versions of Outlook for one example) usually either cannot load external content or won't do it without permission. Correct, which is the subject of this thread! I must send out my Xmas card How to this year again. -- Skype: (623)239-3392 ATT: (503)754-4452 www.it-clowns.com Only the dead have seen the end of war. -Plato -- Skype: (623)239-3392 ATT: (503)754-4452 www.it-clowns.com Only the dead have seen the end of war. -Plato -- Skype: (623)239-3392 ATT: (503)754-4452 www.it-clowns.com Only the dead have seen the end of war. -Plato --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: How to send email that is both text-only and/or html?
. gm5...@gmail.com wrote: ALL HTML emails are auto deleted. Use inline or attach please. What is inline and how does one do that? (Is that a way to display images within a text email?) --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: How to send email that is both text-only and/or html?
http://ask-leo.com/why_do_pictures_in_email_sometimes_show_up_inline_and_sometimes_as_attachments.html Theres a quick link... HTML AND RTF can be done inline. As far as one of Lisa's Click jacking thing. I use Iron for all unencrypted connections and Firefox for all encrypted. I NEVER click on links. I will copy them and paste them if they are http to the other browswer or go to Scroogle and paste them in and find their address for myself. VampirPenguin -- GNUPG validated with key 0xD537A8E1. Questionable validations please verify by phone for authenticity. RTF, TXT, LaTeX, PDF and DJVU files inline or by attachment are gladly accepted. Confidentiality guaranteed only by strong encrypted formats. Windows GNUPG Version: ftp://ftp.gnupg.org/gcrypt/binary/gnupg-w32cli-1.4.10b.exe Bcrypt encryption, all platforms: http://bcrypt.sourceforge.net/ Proudly made by your nearest Mutt and Vim using Linux. pgpzEeIW9xJII.pgp Description: PGP signature --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: How to send email that is both text-only and/or html?
Google's Recapta has been reverse engineered also: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/14/google_recaptcha_busted/ On 12/15/09, GK gm5...@gmail.com wrote: http://ask-leo.com/why_do_pictures_in_email_sometimes_show_up_inline_and_sometimes_as_attachments.html Theres a quick link... HTML AND RTF can be done inline. As far as one of Lisa's Click jacking thing. I use Iron for all unencrypted connections and Firefox for all encrypted. I NEVER click on links. I will copy them and paste them if they are http to the other browswer or go to Scroogle and paste them in and find their address for myself. VampirPenguin -- GNUPG validated with key 0xD537A8E1. Questionable validations please verify by phone for authenticity. RTF, TXT, LaTeX, PDF and DJVU files inline or by attachment are gladly accepted. Confidentiality guaranteed only by strong encrypted formats. Windows GNUPG Version: ftp://ftp.gnupg.org/gcrypt/binary/gnupg-w32cli-1.4.10b.exe Bcrypt encryption, all platforms: http://bcrypt.sourceforge.net/ Proudly made by your nearest Mutt and Vim using Linux. -- Skype: (623)239-3392 ATT: (503)754-4452 www.it-clowns.com Only the dead have seen the end of war. -Plato --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
