Re: PLUG-Security List Removed Now?

2010-09-30 Thread Lisa Kachold
Hey Brian, how the heck are you?

Yes, I was the one who reported the DNS outage first, after looking into
this.

Thanks for your response.

I know DNS very well, rebuilt all the 8 linux dns servers at Skymall, and
through the dot.com startup years I had an Internic host name login for
doing SWIP and directly registering our thousands of domains at Teleport,
SpireTechnologies, GSTIS.Net, WorldNet,Ausnet a few more.

How is your little atom?  Did you trade it off for something else, give it
to your wife or use it as a hack work test machine?

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com wrote:

 Please don't post wild conclusions, the plug-security list has existed for
 more than a decade and has almost 300 people signed up for it. There is no
 way we would remove it.  You simply fell victim to a DNS outage.

 Hopefully we will be moving the DNS to our own servers soon, as the service
 we have been getting from DERU, where our servers are co-located, has been
 top notch, and we have never had any problems with it at all.  Once we have
 the DNS hosted with them, I expect to never have any unexpected down time
 again.

 Brian Cluff


 On 09/29/2010 10:46 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote:

 Unfortunately,

 Someone has removed the mailing list after we announced we were using it.
 They gave us no notice it was gone.

 It was PLUG-Security and there were more than a few people signed up to
 use it.

 It has been removed now?  Not sure why.  Perhaps we need to move to a
 better hosting solution?  I have more than enough disk space on my
 GoDaddy virtual host?

 On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Mail Delivery Subsystem
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 wrote:

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

plug-secur...@lists.phoenix.az.us
mailto:plug-secur...@lists.phoenix.az.us


Technical details of permanent failure:
DNS Error: Domain name not found

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Subject: CarPooling to Chandler for Linux Security Team Lab
From: Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com
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To: plug-security plug-secur...@lists.phoenix.az.us
mailto:plug-secur...@lists.phoenix.az.us

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If you are going this Saturday and wish to carpool or need a ride
 please
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PLUG-Security List Removed Now?

2010-09-29 Thread Lisa Kachold
Unfortunately,

Someone has removed the mailing list after we announced we were using it.
They gave us no notice it was gone.

It was PLUG-Security and there were more than a few people signed up to use
it.

It has been removed now?  Not sure why.  Perhaps we need to move to a better
hosting solution?  I have more than enough disk space on my GoDaddy virtual
host?

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Mail Delivery Subsystem 
mailer-dae...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

 plug-secur...@lists.phoenix.az.us

 Technical details of permanent failure:
 DNS Error: Domain name not found

 - Original message -

 MIME-Version: 1.0
 Received: by 10.204.11.13 with SMTP id r13mr1555245bkr.96.1285781774548;
 Wed,
  29 Sep 2010 10:36:14 -0700 (PDT)
 Sender: obno...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: li...@bizcard.com
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 (PDT)
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 Message-ID: aanlktikwyge5fs9nfjqihtbrdgwyhkqvc6kaebub-...@mail.gmail.com
 Subject: CarPooling to Chandler for Linux Security Team Lab
 From: Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com
 To: plug-security plug-secur...@lists.phoenix.az.us
 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0003239eee3ee404916965a4

 If you are going this Saturday and wish to carpool or need a ride please
 reply and I will coordinate.

 Thanks

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Re: PLUG-Security List Removed Now?

2010-09-29 Thread Lisa Kachold
NeverMind,

It's fixed now:

http://lists.plug.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-security

Please signup for security discussions there?

Thanks

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Lisa Kachold obno...@gmail.com wrote:

 Unfortunately,

 Someone has removed the mailing list after we announced we were using it.
 They gave us no notice it was gone.

 It was PLUG-Security and there were more than a few people signed up to use
 it.

 It has been removed now?  Not sure why.  Perhaps we need to move to a
 better hosting solution?  I have more than enough disk space on my GoDaddy
 virtual host?

 On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Mail Delivery Subsystem 
 mailer-dae...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

 plug-secur...@lists.phoenix.az.us

 Technical details of permanent failure:
 DNS Error: Domain name not found

 - Original message -

 MIME-Version: 1.0
 Received: by 10.204.11.13 with SMTP id r13mr1555245bkr.96.1285781774548;
 Wed,
  29 Sep 2010 10:36:14 -0700 (PDT)
 Sender: obno...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: li...@bizcard.com
 Received: by 10.204.100.145 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:36:14 -0700
 (PDT)
 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:36:14 -0700
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 Message-ID: aanlktikwyge5fs9nfjqihtbrdgwyhkqvc6kaebub-...@mail.gmail.com
 
 Subject: CarPooling to Chandler for Linux Security Team Lab
 From: Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com
 To: plug-security plug-secur...@lists.phoenix.az.us
 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0003239eee3ee404916965a4

 If you are going this Saturday and wish to carpool or need a ride please
 reply and I will coordinate.

 Thanks

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 Contradictions do not exist. A. Rand




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Re: PLUG-Security List Removed Now?

2010-09-29 Thread JD Austin
A google group would work well; I use them for several clubs/organizations.
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:46, Lisa Kachold obno...@gmail.com wrote:

 Unfortunately,

 Someone has removed the mailing list after we announced we were using it.
 They gave us no notice it was gone.

 It was PLUG-Security and there were more than a few people signed up to use
 it.

 It has been removed now?  Not sure why.  Perhaps we need to move to a
 better hosting solution?  I have more than enough disk space on my GoDaddy
 virtual host?

 On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Mail Delivery Subsystem 
 mailer-dae...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

 plug-secur...@lists.phoenix.az.us

 Technical details of permanent failure:
 DNS Error: Domain name not found

 - Original message -

 MIME-Version: 1.0
 Received: by 10.204.11.13 with SMTP id r13mr1555245bkr.96.1285781774548;
 Wed,
  29 Sep 2010 10:36:14 -0700 (PDT)
 Sender: obno...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: li...@bizcard.com
 Received: by 10.204.100.145 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:36:14 -0700
 (PDT)
 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:36:14 -0700
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 Message-ID: aanlktikwyge5fs9nfjqihtbrdgwyhkqvc6kaebub-...@mail.gmail.com
 
 Subject: CarPooling to Chandler for Linux Security Team Lab
 From: Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com
 To: plug-security plug-secur...@lists.phoenix.az.us
 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0003239eee3ee404916965a4

 If you are going this Saturday and wish to carpool or need a ride please
 reply and I will coordinate.

 Thanks

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Re: PLUG-Security List Removed Now?

2010-09-29 Thread Brian Cluff
Please don't post wild conclusions, the plug-security list has existed 
for more than a decade and has almost 300 people signed up for it. 
There is no way we would remove it.  You simply fell victim to a DNS outage.


Hopefully we will be moving the DNS to our own servers soon, as the 
service we have been getting from DERU, where our servers are 
co-located, has been top notch, and we have never had any problems with 
it at all.  Once we have the DNS hosted with them, I expect to never 
have any unexpected down time again.


Brian Cluff

On 09/29/2010 10:46 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote:

Unfortunately,

Someone has removed the mailing list after we announced we were using it.
They gave us no notice it was gone.

It was PLUG-Security and there were more than a few people signed up to
use it.

It has been removed now?  Not sure why.  Perhaps we need to move to a
better hosting solution?  I have more than enough disk space on my
GoDaddy virtual host?

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Mail Delivery Subsystem
mailer-dae...@googlemail.com mailto:mailer-dae...@googlemail.com wrote:

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

plug-secur...@lists.phoenix.az.us
mailto:plug-secur...@lists.phoenix.az.us

Technical details of permanent failure:
DNS Error: Domain name not found

- Original message -

MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.204.11.13 with SMTP id
r13mr1555245bkr.96.1285781774548; Wed,
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Reply-To: li...@bizcard.com mailto:li...@bizcard.com
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:36:14 -0700
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Subject: CarPooling to Chandler for Linux Security Team Lab
From: Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com
mailto:lisakach...@obnosis.com
To: plug-security plug-secur...@lists.phoenix.az.us
mailto:plug-secur...@lists.phoenix.az.us
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary=0003239eee3ee404916965a4

If you are going this Saturday and wish to carpool or need a ride please
reply and I will coordinate.

Thanks

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Re: PLUG-Security List Removed Now?

2010-09-29 Thread Alan Dayley
The DNS was not down.  Please note:

   Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

   plug-secur...@lists.phoenix.az.us
   mailto:plug-secur...@lists.phoenix.az.us

The correct address is plug-secur...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us.  Lisa just
got the address wrong the first time by forgetting the .plug. in the
middle.  No fault of Deru, or DNS or the server or administration.  Just a
typo.

It happens.

Alan

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com wrote:

 Please don't post wild conclusions, the plug-security list has existed for
 more than a decade and has almost 300 people signed up for it. There is no
 way we would remove it.  You simply fell victim to a DNS outage.

 Hopefully we will be moving the DNS to our own servers soon, as the service
 we have been getting from DERU, where our servers are co-located, has been
 top notch, and we have never had any problems with it at all.  Once we have
 the DNS hosted with them, I expect to never have any unexpected down time
 again.

 Brian Cluff

 On 09/29/2010 10:46 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote:

 Unfortunately,

 Someone has removed the mailing list after we announced we were using it.
 They gave us no notice it was gone.

 It was PLUG-Security and there were more than a few people signed up to
 use it.

 It has been removed now?  Not sure why.  Perhaps we need to move to a
 better hosting solution?  I have more than enough disk space on my
 GoDaddy virtual host?

 On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Mail Delivery Subsystem
 mailer-dae...@googlemail.com mailto:mailer-dae...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

plug-secur...@lists.phoenix.az.us
mailto:plug-secur...@lists.phoenix.az.us

Technical details of permanent failure:
DNS Error: Domain name not found


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Re: PLUG-Security List Removed Now?

2010-09-29 Thread Brian Cluff
Either way, my point still remains.  We can't have people running around 
yelling the sky is falling because of one bounced message.


...and we still need to get the primary DNS for PLUG on the PLUG 
servers, so we can eliminate the point of failure that we currently have.


Brian Cluff

On 09/29/2010 09:37 PM, Alan Dayley wrote:

The DNS was not down.  Please note:

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

plug-secur...@lists.phoenix.az.us mailto:plug-secur...@lists.phoenix.az.us
mailto:plug-secur...@lists.phoenix.az.us
mailto:plug-secur...@lists.phoenix.az.us

The correct address is plug-secur...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
mailto:plug-secur...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us.  Lisa just got the
address wrong the first time by forgetting the .plug. in the middle.
  No fault of Deru, or DNS or the server or administration.  Just a typo.

It happens.

Alan

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com
mailto:br...@snaptek.com wrote:

Please don't post wild conclusions, the plug-security list has
existed for more than a decade and has almost 300 people signed up
for it. There is no way we would remove it.  You simply fell victim
to a DNS outage.

Hopefully we will be moving the DNS to our own servers soon, as the
service we have been getting from DERU, where our servers are
co-located, has been top notch, and we have never had any problems
with it at all.  Once we have the DNS hosted with them, I expect to
never have any unexpected down time again.

Brian Cluff

On 09/29/2010 10:46 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote:

Unfortunately,

Someone has removed the mailing list after we announced we were
using it.
They gave us no notice it was gone.

It was PLUG-Security and there were more than a few people
signed up to
use it.

It has been removed now?  Not sure why.  Perhaps we need to move
to a
better hosting solution?  I have more than enough disk space on my
GoDaddy virtual host?

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Mail Delivery Subsystem
mailer-dae...@googlemail.com
mailto:mailer-dae...@googlemail.com
mailto:mailer-dae...@googlemail.com
mailto:mailer-dae...@googlemail.com wrote:

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

plug-secur...@lists.phoenix.az.us
mailto:plug-secur...@lists.phoenix.az.us
mailto:plug-secur...@lists.phoenix.az.us
mailto:plug-secur...@lists.phoenix.az.us

Technical details of permanent failure:
DNS Error: Domain name not found



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