Re: Hey Festers - Let's Build a gPXE Build Server for the Installfest
So this will be a multiple os build server for use at install fests? PXE boot. Select dist and off it goes? With repository for some updates this could be huge, or we talking core install only. I definately have some hardware I would be willing to donate. How much horsepower will we need. An opteron 1212 or more? On Dec 29, 2010 9:36 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com wrote: I promised to assist by building a gPXE build server for the Installfest. So, we want to coordinate efforts and request suggestions. (Thanks so much Joseph Sinclair for your good advice). When do we want to build her? What is the target hardware? Other information we might need? Wifi card? Any donations over and above what's available? Let's start making the list and make this nice? Drive Space? TB at least? -- (503) 754-4452 (623) 688-3392 http://www.obnosis.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Hey Festers - Let's Build a gPXE Build Server for the Installfest
Lisa, I could build a vm for that if you want. I could even give ssh access to it on a non-standard port if needed. I already have a vm of ubuntu already installed here. otherwise, I can save it off as an image and we can dd it to a new drive from a dvd. let me know. -Eric On Dec 29, 2010, at 9:35 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: I promised to assist by building a gPXE build server for the Installfest. So, we want to coordinate efforts and request suggestions. (Thanks so much Joseph Sinclair for your good advice). When do we want to build her? What is the target hardware? Other information we might need? Wifi card? Any donations over and above what's available? Let's start making the list and make this nice? Drive Space? TB at least? -- (503) 754-4452 (623) 688-3392 http://www.obnosis.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Hey Festers - Let's Build a gPXE Build Server for the Installfest
heh, ok. I use VM's here a lot because I don't have a large number of machines to use anymore. I haven't tried creating a PXE server though. that would be something new. and yeah, I suspect that booting PXE over the internet would not be doable except on a very secure, very fat pipe. :) anyway, it would be something new for me to learn. -Eric On Dec 29, 2010, at 11:01 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: Thanks Technomage, That's not exactly what we require. A VM of what? Laugh! I can build a VM also, but why would I, when I can just build the system and configure the gPXE quicker? On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Technomage Hawke technomage.ha...@gmail.com wrote: Lisa, I could build a vm for that if you want. I could even give ssh access to it on a non-standard port if needed. I already have a vm of ubuntu already installed here. otherwise, I can save it off as an image and we can dd it to a new drive from a dvd. let me know. -Eric On Dec 29, 2010, at 9:35 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: I promised to assist by building a gPXE build server for the Installfest. So, we want to coordinate efforts and request suggestions. (Thanks so much Joseph Sinclair for your good advice). When do we want to build her? What is the target hardware? Other information we might need? Wifi card? Any donations over and above what's available? Let's start making the list and make this nice? Drive Space? TB at least? -- (503) 754-4452 (623) 688-3392 http://www.obnosis.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- (503) 754-4452 (623) 688-3392 http://www.obnosis.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Hey Festers - Let's Build a gPXE Build Server for the Installfest
Also, VM bridging is not conducive to gPXE and besides WHY? We are using older equipment and we want all the Alan Cox'ian TCP/IP UDP sweetness that IS gPXE: *gPXE* (formerly *Etherboot*) is an open-sourcehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source Preboot Execution Environmenthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preboot_Execution_Environment(PXE) implementation and bootloader. It can be used to enable computers without built-in PXE support to boot from the network, or to extend an existing PXE implementation with support for additional protocols. While traditional PXE clients use TFTPhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trivial_File_Transfer_Protocolto transfer data, gPXE adds the ability to retrieve data through other protocols like HTTPhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertext_Transfer_Protocol, iSCSI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISCSI and ATA over Ethernethttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATA_over_Ethernet(AoE), and can work with Wi-Fi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi rather than requiring a wired connection. Contents - 1 PXE implementationhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPXE#PXE_implementation - 2 Bootloader http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPXE#Bootloader - 3 Vitality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPXE#Vitality - 4 See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPXE#See_also - 5 External links http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPXE#External_links - 6 References http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPXE#References PXE implementation gPXE can be loaded by a computer in several ways: - from media like floppy disk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floppy_disk, USB flash drive http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_flash_drive, or hard disk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_disk_drive - as a pseudo Linux kernel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel - as an ELF imagehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executable_and_Linkable_Format - from an option ROM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Option_ROM on a network card or embedded in a system BIOShttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BIOS - over a network http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet as a PXE boot image gPXE implements its own PXE stack, using a driver corresponding to the network card, or a UNDIhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Network_Device_Interfacedriver if it was loaded by PXE itself. This allows to use a PXE stack even if the network card has no boot ROMhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Read-only_memory, by loading gPXE from a fixed medium. Bootloader Although its basic role was to implement a PXE stack, gPXE can be used as a full-featured network bootloader. It can fetch files from multiple network protocols [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPXE#cite_note-Google_TechTalk_-_gPXE-0, such as TFTP, NFShttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_File_System_%28protocol%29, HTTP[2]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPXE#cite_note-Booting_your_machine_over_HTTP-1or FTP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Transfer_Protocol, and can boot PXE, ELF, Linux, FreeBSD http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeBSD, multiboothttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiboot_Specification, EFI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensible_Firmware_Interface and Windows CE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_CE images. In addition, it is scriptable and can load COMBOOT and COM32 SYSLINUXhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SYSLINUXextensions. This allows for instance to build a graphical menu for network boot. Vitality gPXE development has stalled recently[3]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPXE#cite_note-Ohloh_report_on_gPXE-2, and several projects are migrating[4]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPXE#cite_note-Xen_changelog_-_iPXE-3or considering migrating [5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPXE#cite_note-KVM_call_minutes_-_iPXE-4to iPXE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPXE as a result. See also [image: Portal-puzzle.svg]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Portal-puzzle.svg *Free software portal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Free_software* - PXELINUX http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SYSLINUX#PXELINUX - Coreboot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coreboot - iPXE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPXE External links - etherboot.org - The Etherboot/gPXE Wikihttp://etherboot.org/wiki/index.php - ROM-o-matic.net dynamically generates gPXE and Etherboot network booting image http://rom-o-matic.net/ - Introduction to Network Booting and Etherboothttp://www.linuxdocs.org/HOWTOs/Diskless-HOWTO-8.html - PXE dust: scalable day-to-day diskless bootinghttp://blog.ksplice.com/2010/05/scalable-day-to-day-diskless-booting/ References 1. *^http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPXE#cite_ref-Google_TechTalk_-_gPXE_0-0 * Google TechTalk demonstrates how to load operating systems from remote servers using gPXE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GofOqhO6VVM 2. *^http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPXE#cite_ref-Booting_your_machine_over_HTTP_1-0 * Booting your machine over HTTP http://boot.kernel.org/ 3. *^http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPXE#cite_ref-Ohloh_report_on_gPXE_2-0 * Ohloh reports decreasing development activity for
Re: hey jmz! (and the rest of you guys!) :)
Excerpts from Technomage's message of Sun Jul 18 02:56:40 -0700 2010: just found your blog man (I was trying to locate when plug was officially founded). I noticed that you mentioned: Some claim that there is a Steering Committee associated with PLUG, however the names of the members of this group have never been released to the public. I can conform that there was in fact a steering committee (I should know, I was on it). I have long since forgotten the names of the others on it. The committee was disbanded shortly after the members agreed to a base set of rules to found plug as a 'semi professional community oriented Linux users group. That founding occurred back in mid 1998. most of the list didn't start getting seriously archived until early 1999. I kn ow Der.hans was pretty much in there from the beginning (you still on list Hans?). About 4 years ago, I quit coming to the east side meetings (transportation was an issue and as I am visually impaired, driving was out of the question). I have been mostly listening on this list for some long time. anyway, there's been a lot of technical stuff on here over the years (and some x-posting from AZIPA and a few other groups linux related). These days, I am mostly on OS X but i do putter around with linux under virtualbox. I seem to have fallen off the learning wagon and am now trying to get back into the scene as it were (and its a long climb and a lot of bad habits to undo). I really wish i could get some rides to the east side meetings but given i am still out here at 83rd ave. near Indianschool road, its going to be hard to arrange. I haven't seen any notices for a west side meeting in some time though (you still doing that tuna?). This Wednesday at Buffalo Wings Rings on Dysart Thomas. See you there? anyway, I thought I'd pop on list and remind you guys that some of us old guard are still about. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
PLUG Steering (Was: Re: hey jmz! (and the rest of you guys!) :))
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:56 AM, Technomage technomage.ha...@gmail.com wrote: just found your blog man (I was trying to locate when plug was officially founded). I noticed that you mentioned: Some claim that there is a Steering Committee associated with PLUG, however the names of the members of this group have never been released to the public. - PLUG has a Steering Committee. - The names of the members of this committee have been released to the public and often. -- At one time we had a page on the web site about the organization of the group. As author of that page, I know the names of the Steering Committee members were on that page. I don't think that page exists anymore, lost in the transitions to new CMS iterations. -- When I led the PLUG Developer Meeting, I would regularly describe the Steering Committee and name it's members as part of the meeting introduction. I would do this even if only one new person was attending. - The names of the committee members have been published in this list incidental to other discussions, I'm sure. Though I'm not going to go hunt the archives. - Members: -- Hans Krugeler (sorry about the spelling) is the Chairperson -- Alan Dayley (I am nearly inactive, as you may have noticed) -- Brian Cluff -- Joseph Sinclair We had a three other members who have moved away but provided excellent support for group activities during their time with the committee. I can conform that there was in fact a steering committee (I should know, I was on it). I have long since forgotten the names of the others on it. The committee was disbanded shortly after the members agreed to a base set of rules to found plug as a 'semi professional community oriented Linux users group. OK. I joined PLUG in May, 2000. It has a Steering Committee then and has had one continuously to today. Maybe you are referring to pre-2000 time. Confession: The current truth is that the Steering Committee is semi-active. I have mostly moved on to other community groups (Ignite Phoenix, Gangplank events, Phoenix Scrum User Group). Others have been busy with many things. From my point of view, the Steering Committee needs to become more active again. I am not the one to drive that as I have my free time focus elsewhere. That founding occurred back in mid 1998. most of the list didn't start getting seriously archived until early 1999. I understand it was founded earlier than that, around 1996. Rusty Carruth was one of the original PLUG members. I work with him at my employment. I'll have to ask him Monday about the founding date. I kn ow Der.hans was pretty much in there from the beginning (you still on list Hans?). Hans is still around. He posts about meetings, etc. in this list quite regularly. He chairs bi-monthly PLUG planning meetings on IRC every other Sunday evening. He's still working for the group. I haven't seen any notices for a west side meeting in some time though (you still doing that tuna?). West side meetings now take place at DeVry University, when there is someone to make sure there is a speaker. They have not always been held every month of late because of a lack of a solid organizer. Hopefully that will change. Calls for west side speakers and meeting organizers go out every month, usually written by Hans. anyway, I thought I'd pop on list and remind you guys that some of us old guard are still about. Thanks! Alan --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: hey jmz! (and the rest of you guys!) :)
On 7/18/10 5:04 AM, Tuna wrote: This Wednesday at Buffalo Wings Rings on Dysart Thomas. See you there? hehe if I can get a ride. I can't count on the roomies here as they tend not to like to go anywhere that doesn't specifically involve them. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Hey.
I think you could have chosen a better reference! Keith Smith --- On Thu, 12/31/09, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com wrote: From: Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com Subject: Re: Hey. To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 10:54 PM Happy New Years Mike! 2010 is going to be GREAT! Check out my new Arizona Wiki Satire Page, rewritten for the New Year: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Arizona In case you miss Arizona! On 12/31/09, mike havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Happy new year geeks and geeketes (and you geek wanabees). -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -- Skype: (623)239-3392 ATT: (503)754-4452 www.it-clowns.com http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/User:LisaKachold --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Hey.
Happy New Years Mike! 2010 is going to be GREAT! Check out my new Arizona Wiki Satire Page, rewritten for the New Year: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Arizona In case you miss Arizona! On 12/31/09, mike havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Happy new year geeks and geeketes (and you geek wanabees). -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -- Skype: (623)239-3392 ATT: (503)754-4452 www.it-clowns.com http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/User:LisaKachold --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Hey.
I live in Cornville, Arizona now. On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote: Happy New Years Mike! 2010 is going to be GREAT! Check out my new Arizona Wiki Satire Page, rewritten for the New Year: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Arizona In case you miss Arizona! On 12/31/09, mike havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Happy new year geeks and geeketes (and you geek wanabees). -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -- Skype: (623)239-3392 ATT: (503)754-4452 www.it-clowns.com http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/User:LisaKachold --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Hey.
i just gave this to a friend of mine, a Linux sysadmin http://www.kleargear.com/1482.html On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 9:59 PM, Joshua Zeidner jjzeid...@gmail.com wrote: you're going to see some REALLY good deals in the next month at the computer stores. I think you'll be seeing a lot of laptops drop below $200. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w4xECgTYkE -jmz On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Tuna t...@supertunaman.com wrote: This thread is now about our Linux-related $holiday presents. Mine: http://system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=28products_id=97 Really nice, come to the Avondale stammtisch and you'll get to see it in person. Excerpts from mike havens's message of Fri Dec 25 16:19:00 -0700 2009: Merry Christmas everyone! If you don't like Christmas happy whatever. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Hey.
Merry (Insert Holiday Here) Day Brian --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Hey.
happy holidays then :-) On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 4:19 PM, mike havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Merry Christmas everyone! If you don't like Christmas happy whatever. -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Hey.
This thread is now about our Linux-related $holiday presents. Mine: http://system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=28products_id=97 Really nice, come to the Avondale stammtisch and you'll get to see it in person. Excerpts from mike havens's message of Fri Dec 25 16:19:00 -0700 2009: Merry Christmas everyone! If you don't like Christmas happy whatever. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Hey.
you're going to see some REALLY good deals in the next month at the computer stores. I think you'll be seeing a lot of laptops drop below $200. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w4xECgTYkE -jmz On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Tuna t...@supertunaman.com wrote: This thread is now about our Linux-related $holiday presents. Mine: http://system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=28products_id=97 Really nice, come to the Avondale stammtisch and you'll get to see it in person. Excerpts from mike havens's message of Fri Dec 25 16:19:00 -0700 2009: Merry Christmas everyone! If you don't like Christmas happy whatever. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: hey i found a new toy for iceweasel
Uhh...I wonder how many other mail providers or programs/suites this vulnerability applies to. I just got a new e-mail account and it does the full-time https thing. Considering that my internet connection goes over our 802.11b system in the clear, the thought of those session ID's and passwords going in the clear worries me, especially with the number of people I see getting DHCP leases (but not past the captive portal) on our system! And those are just the ones dumb enough to be seen... Mike On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:18:23 -0800, Kristian Erik Hermansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Feb 4, 2008 9:00 PM, Micah DesJardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you use https://mail.google.com instead of http://mail.google.com it remains encrypted after you log in. This is not necessarily true. There have been attacks in which Google session ids can be compromised if for a time HTTPS is disrupted. Google then attempts to utilize the non-https session and exposed the id, which can then be used to log into the account without a user/pass combo... -- Kristian Erik Hermansen Know something about everything and everything about something. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: hey i found a new toy for iceweasel
On Feb 5, 2008 12:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uhh...I wonder how many other mail providers or programs/suites this vulnerability applies to. I just got a new e-mail account and it does the full-time https thing. Considering that my internet connection goes over our 802.11b system in the clear, the thought of those session ID's and passwords going in the clear worries me, especially with the number of people I see getting DHCP leases (but not past the captive portal) on our system! And those are just the ones dumb enough to be seen... Yeah, if you are really caring about security, you would tunnel everything over ssh :-) I think you should implement unspidedownternet or blurrynet for your free wifi users...heh http://ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html -- Kristian Erik Hermansen Know something about everything and everything about something. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: hey i found a new toy for iceweasel
On Feb 4, 2008 9:00 PM, Micah DesJardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you use https://mail.google.com instead of http://mail.google.com it remains encrypted after you log in. This is not necessarily true. There have been attacks in which Google session ids can be compromised if for a time HTTPS is disrupted. Google then attempts to utilize the non-https session and exposed the id, which can then be used to log into the account without a user/pass combo... -- Kristian Erik Hermansen Know something about everything and everything about something. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: hey i found a new toy for iceweasel
If you use https://mail.google.com instead of http://mail.google.com it remains encrypted after you log in. Micah --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
