Re: I need opinions.
Thank you for letting me know about this book. I got a copy of it and as soon as I fix this superblock problem I'll get right to it and linux from scratch and Plone and its like I'm back in school! On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Sam Kreimeyer skrei...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe this is a silly question, but why the secrecy about the link? Also, here's a good link to CSS. I mostly used this book http://www.amazon.com/HTML-CSS-Complete-Reference-Fifth/dp/0071496297 to learn about it. With a little searching you can find it for free, if you don't want to go through amazon. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for letting me know about this book. I got a copy of it and as soon as I fix this superblock problem I'll get right to it and linux from scratch and Plone and its like I'm back in school! Mike, were you thinking CSS was a message board thing? I somehow got the impression that you were... I think you want phpbb or something similar if you are looking to implement a message board. ~Ben --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: I need opinions.
well. I guess I need to add phpbb to my to-do list. I figure html/css will make the initial landing page and all the other pages look their best. On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Ben Browning b...@bensbrowning.comwrote: On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for letting me know about this book. I got a copy of it and as soon as I fix this superblock problem I'll get right to it and linux from scratch and Plone and its like I'm back in school! Mike, were you thinking CSS was a message board thing? I somehow got the impression that you were... I think you want phpbb or something similar if you are looking to implement a message board. pag ~Ben --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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I modified the text of the ad. http://fatherswithforeignbabies.us/work.htmlNow I'm just asking for what they think is fair. I also took the link from the main website off until I make it look better. I'm dealing with hard drive issue on the other computer right now so CSS (cascading style sheets?) will have to wait. On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for the tip Sam. I'll look into CSS. On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Sam Kreimeyer skrei...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Mike, Not a bad start, nor a bad idea. I would drop the Pay me $5 for the link, though. It really sounds like you're doing something underhanded. I would seek out alternative ways to market the site and pull some revenue. It looks like you have Ad-Sense or something similar running already. As long as you're bringing people in, you'll make a few bucks off the click-throughs. My advice for getting people to stay is to bring a forum into the website. I use phpBB on a website I started recently ( http://whoarethedead.com/), and it's about as easy as it gets. Boards are a great way to give people a fun distraction while they're at the site. For your purposes (community building, I presume), it would seem almost essential. PhpBB has plenty of free tutorials, templates, a massive community and easy session integration, which allows for some cool things. Dealing with spam bots takes a little work, but google has plenty of help (though you might want to keep them. Sometimes they're hilarious). FTP it over to your web host and go through the install.php script to get it going. It's mostly point-and-click (your web host does have PHP on board, right?). I peeked through some of the source on the pages. There are a TON of lines dedicated to style. Have you considered referencing a style sheet? You can do a lot with CSS, and it's a massive time saver for changes across multiple pages. I didn't use a CMS for my site (addicted to rolling my own) and found that formatting with style sheets is actually pretty easy. You can check out mine if you want an example of what they look like http://whoarethedead.com/WATD.css. Basically, I define classes in CSS and then identify div blocks with those classes. Ultimately, it's the same as what most toolkits would do. As long as you have a good reference guide, you should be able to do just about anything. And my (from limited experience) SEO info-nuggets: 1- Good tags, clear formatting, etc. are nice, but they guarantee nothing. 2- Without regularly updated content, you'll get deindexed. Heed the words of E-40 and Scrape! Scrape! Scrape! 3- Back-links. Get them. Do whatever it takes that is still cost-effective. 4- Rate of change in traffic is more important than total rate (think trending). Probably not as tasty as chicken-nuggets, but born from experience. If you get the first 3 locked in, you might look into traffic sharing, buying out competing niche-sites and such. Good luck! --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: I need opinions.
Maybe this is a silly question, but why the secrecy about the link? Also, here's a good link to CSS. I mostly used this book http://www.amazon.com/HTML-CSS-Complete-Reference-Fifth/dp/0071496297 to learn about it. With a little searching you can find it for free, if you don't want to go through amazon. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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No secrecy at all. I just don't have a link to the page from my site. But why do I care I'm sure no one knows about it besides the people on this list and a few people I know. I'll put it back on in fact. On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Sam Kreimeyer skrei...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe this is a silly question, but why the secrecy about the link? Also, here's a good link to CSS. I mostly used this book http://www.amazon.com/HTML-CSS-Complete-Reference-Fifth/dp/0071496297 to learn about it. With a little searching you can find it for free, if you don't want to go through amazon. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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Mike, If you have GoDaddy, they provide Drupal, WordPress, Joomla, Wiki, and a eCommerce cart that you can install at the touch of a button. Actually, Googling for free web forum template or free blog css template will turn up many thousands that you can use within KompoZer. These templates usually consists of a group of files, a set of images to provide some toning backgrounds and borders, an HTML file (sometimes XHTML) that provides some dummy content, and a CSS file that controls the appearance of the content and use of the images. Example: http://www.free-css.com/free-css-templates/page133/blogger.php Of course, since these are just creating HTML/CSS, you can also move to a more comprehensive free website maker like: http://www.opendesigns.org/ BTW, does your hosting site offer php? MySQL? For many CMS like Drupal or Wordpress, you need MySQL/php. PHP CMS with flat file databases (where you don't need MySQL) include: Pivot (http://www.pivotlog.net/): SkyBlueCanvas Lightweight CMS (http://www.skybluecanvas.com/) Pluck (http://www.pluck-cms.org/) RazorCMS (http://www.razorcms.co.uk/) I believe that the get rich quick email me for the link is terribly ill conceived. You would do better advertising your ability to make some websites around your local area and on your page. That link makes you look scammy. Besides, I will give everyone a good Work From Home link right now: http://icanworkfromhometo.blogspot.com/2007/11/teletech-or-hire-point-customer-service.html Start your Application: http://www.hirepoint.com/athome-en-US/ On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: wordpress won't work (I don't think) does anyone know of a forum template for kompozer that doesn't cost anything? Believe me. if I had any money I would be happy to pay for things but I don't have any money. The last 4 bucks in my checking account went to go daddy to pay for a domain that I can hopefully make some money with :) (onlineworkfinder.us) This is the page I'm going to put my ad on. I was thinking that making it real simple without all the hoopla that the scam sites usually have would be the best idea. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- (503) 754-4452 Android (623) 239-3392 Skype (623) 688-3392 Google Voice ** it-clowns.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: I need opinions.
From: Michael Butash mich...@butash.net Whatever such you intend for them to do once there, you first need to drive people there, meaning you need to be found, and not immediately closed as irrelevant. Pick out a theme, just don't go crazy and make it myspace-ish with nauseating graphics everywhere. Then look up search engine optimization and dig to get it out there. Pretty good advice there. SEO: make sure the meta tags for description and keywords are correct/relevant, make sure you're using h1 appropriately, make sure robots.txt allows various search engines to look at your site. Also, don't go overboard on trying to be (like this on Spacebook!) hyper-relevant and/or more (+1 this on Googel!) socially connected than (bleat this!) every other site since it can get (crow202Spot this!) annoying. Also also, if you have popup, popunder, sound-using, or screen-taking-over ads on your site, people will want to hunt you down and beat you with a bag of doorknobs instead of spending time at your site. Tough part is giving someone a reason to stay around your site - one page won't do that, let alone sell a cause. Getting people to visit one page isn't insanely difficult. Getting people to *explore* a site or visit it regularly seems to require one or more of: * regularly updated interesting text or images * a reasonably active user community that posts comments and aren't all complete raving jerks * a product for sale that people actually want * pictures of nearly-naked cute people ...at least that's what I've seen. -- Matt G / Dances With Crows The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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Hey Mike, Not a bad start, nor a bad idea. I would drop the Pay me $5 for the link, though. It really sounds like you're doing something underhanded. I would seek out alternative ways to market the site and pull some revenue. It looks like you have Ad-Sense or something similar running already. As long as you're bringing people in, you'll make a few bucks off the click-throughs. My advice for getting people to stay is to bring a forum into the website. I use phpBB on a website I started recently (http://whoarethedead.com/), and it's about as easy as it gets. Boards are a great way to give people a fun distraction while they're at the site. For your purposes (community building, I presume), it would seem almost essential. PhpBB has plenty of free tutorials, templates, a massive community and easy session integration, which allows for some cool things. Dealing with spam bots takes a little work, but google has plenty of help (though you might want to keep them. Sometimes they're hilarious). FTP it over to your web host and go through the install.php script to get it going. It's mostly point-and-click (your web host does have PHP on board, right?). I peeked through some of the source on the pages. There are a TON of lines dedicated to style. Have you considered referencing a style sheet? You can do a lot with CSS, and it's a massive time saver for changes across multiple pages. I didn't use a CMS for my site (addicted to rolling my own) and found that formatting with style sheets is actually pretty easy. You can check out mine if you want an example of what they look like http://whoarethedead.com/WATD.css. Basically, I define classes in CSS and then identify div blocks with those classes. Ultimately, it's the same as what most toolkits would do. As long as you have a good reference guide, you should be able to do just about anything. And my (from limited experience) SEO info-nuggets: 1- Good tags, clear formatting, etc. are nice, but they guarantee nothing. 2- Without regularly updated content, you'll get deindexed. Heed the words of E-40 and Scrape! Scrape! Scrape! 3- Back-links. Get them. Do whatever it takes that is still cost-effective. 4- Rate of change in traffic is more important than total rate (think trending). Probably not as tasty as chicken-nuggets, but born from experience. If you get the first 3 locked in, you might look into traffic sharing, buying out competing niche-sites and such. Good luck! --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: I need opinions.
Thank you for the tip Sam. I'll look into CSS. On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Sam Kreimeyer skrei...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Mike, Not a bad start, nor a bad idea. I would drop the Pay me $5 for the link, though. It really sounds like you're doing something underhanded. I would seek out alternative ways to market the site and pull some revenue. It looks like you have Ad-Sense or something similar running already. As long as you're bringing people in, you'll make a few bucks off the click-throughs. My advice for getting people to stay is to bring a forum into the website. I use phpBB on a website I started recently (http://whoarethedead.com/), and it's about as easy as it gets. Boards are a great way to give people a fun distraction while they're at the site. For your purposes (community building, I presume), it would seem almost essential. PhpBB has plenty of free tutorials, templates, a massive community and easy session integration, which allows for some cool things. Dealing with spam bots takes a little work, but google has plenty of help (though you might want to keep them. Sometimes they're hilarious). FTP it over to your web host and go through the install.php script to get it going. It's mostly point-and-click (your web host does have PHP on board, right?). I peeked through some of the source on the pages. There are a TON of lines dedicated to style. Have you considered referencing a style sheet? You can do a lot with CSS, and it's a massive time saver for changes across multiple pages. I didn't use a CMS for my site (addicted to rolling my own) and found that formatting with style sheets is actually pretty easy. You can check out mine if you want an example of what they look like http://whoarethedead.com/WATD.css. Basically, I define classes in CSS and then identify div blocks with those classes. Ultimately, it's the same as what most toolkits would do. As long as you have a good reference guide, you should be able to do just about anything. And my (from limited experience) SEO info-nuggets: 1- Good tags, clear formatting, etc. are nice, but they guarantee nothing. 2- Without regularly updated content, you'll get deindexed. Heed the words of E-40 and Scrape! Scrape! Scrape! 3- Back-links. Get them. Do whatever it takes that is still cost-effective. 4- Rate of change in traffic is more important than total rate (think trending). Probably not as tasty as chicken-nuggets, but born from experience. If you get the first 3 locked in, you might look into traffic sharing, buying out competing niche-sites and such. Good luck! --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: I need opinions.
First reaction feels like a scam. Like allot of others. On Feb 15, 2012 4:49 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I created a webpage and I need opinions of the advertisement I'm putting on it. Could you please proof read it and tell me if it would turn you off or on or indifferant? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -begin ad--- Mike here, You know, I wanted to find a work-from-home job so badly that I followed many leads and I got scammed many times. Good news though! I finally found a web page that really does give work-from-home job opportunities. These jobs range from computer programmers to cartoon artists; from telephone interviewers to social workers; from proofreaders to typists. A great number of other opportunities are also at this site just awaiting an applicant. I feel as if I should just give the webpage to you but I also feel I've been scammed so often that I need to recoup some of my losses. So, simply pay $5.00 via paypal to havens.business@gmail.com and I'll send you the site. True, you could find it on your own; but I never did in the years of my search. I had to pay substantially more than the five I'm asking for... but what I did pay for is (in my opinion) unreasonable. I figure $5 is a fair price... not to much but perhaps too little. However, I know that if you are unemployed you are watching every penny so I definately don't want to hurt you. In fact, the site itself is free (at least it was when I used it) so there will be no further charges. If you don't have a paypal account you can sign uphttps://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_flowSESSION=yw2jOYFV_cSZwqueJhvzR_Pm5kfdzbo39DamN9SzvU4NEakJPc3XBYVP_Hidispatch=5885d80a13c0db1f8e263663d3faee8d4026841ac68a446f69dad17fb2afeca3for it for free and then link it to a bank account or a credit card. So the excuse that you don't have a paypal account is a lame excuse. Have a good day ya-all! -end ad- http://fatherswithforeignbabies.us/work.html --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: I need opinions.
Tell me what I can do to make it not feel that way. This is not a scam. I've used the website. On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: First saat reaction feels like a scam. Like allot of others. On Feb 15, 2012 4:49 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I created a webpage and I need opinions of the advertisement I'm putting on it. Could you please proof read it and tell me if it would turn you off or on or indifferant? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -begin ad--- Mike here, You know, I wanted to find a work-from-home job so badly that I followed many leads and I got scammed many times. Good news though! I finally found a web page that really does give work-from-home job opportunities. These jobs range from computer programmers to cartoon artists; from telephone interviewers to social workers; from proofreaders to typists. A great number of other opportunities are also at this site just awaiting an applicant. I feel as if I should just give the webpage to you but I also feel I've been scammed so often that I need to recoup some of my losses. So, simply pay $5.00 via paypal to havens.business@gmail.com and I'll send you the site. True, you could find it on your own; but I never did in the years of my search. I had to pay substantially more than the five I'm asking for... but what I did pay for is (in my opinion) unreasonable. I figure $5 is a fair price... not to much but perhaps too little. However, I know that if you are unemployed you are watching every penny so I definately don't want to hurt you. In fact, the site itself is free (at least it was when I used it) so there will be no further charges. If you don't have a paypal account you can sign uphttps://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_flowSESSION=yw2jOYFV_cSZwqueJhvzR_Pm5kfdzbo39DamN9SzvU4NEakJPc3XBYVP_Hidispatch=5885d80a13c0db1f8e263663d3faee8d4026841ac68a446f69dad17fb2afeca3for it for free and then link it to a bank account or a credit card. So the excuse that you don't have a paypal account is a lame excuse. Have a good day ya-all! -end ad- http://fatherswithforeignbabies.us/work.html --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: I need opinions.
Honestly, I don't think this is the proper forum for this. The ride watching you bring up the site has been fun and entertaining, but this is a Linux group, not an English group. [snarky]You could use the free site you found and use someone there. I understand there are proofreaders there ;) [/snarky] -Mike On 2/15/12 4:48 PM, Michael Havens wrote: I created a webpage and I need opinions of the advertisement I'm putting on it. Could you please proof read it and tell me if it would turn you off or on or indifferant? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -begin ad--- Mike here, You know, I wanted to find a work-from-home job so badly that I followed many leads and I got scammed many times. Good news though! I finally found a web page that really does give work-from-home job opportunities. These jobs range from computer programmers to cartoon artists; from telephone interviewers to social workers; from proofreaders to typists. A great number of other opportunities are also at this site just awaiting an applicant. I feel as if I should just give the webpage to you but I also feel I've been scammed so often that I need to recoup some of my losses. So, simply pay $5.00 via paypal to havens.business@gmail.com and I'll send you the site. True, you could find it on your own; but I never did in the years of my search. I had to pay substantially more than the five I'm asking for... but what I did pay for is (in my opinion) unreasonable. I figure $5 is a fair price... not to much but perhaps too little. However, I know that if you are unemployed you are watching every penny so I definately don't want to hurt you. In fact, the site itself is free (at least it was when I used it) so there will be no further charges.If you don't have a paypal account you can sign up https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_flowSESSION=yw2jOYFV_cSZwqueJhvzR_Pm5kfdzbo39DamN9SzvU4NEakJPc3XBYVP_Hidispatch=5885d80a13c0db1f8e263663d3faee8d4026841ac68a446f69dad17fb2afeca3for it for free and then link it to a bank account or a credit card. So the excuse that you don't have a paypal account is a lame excuse. Have a good day ya-all! -end ad- http://fatherswithforeignbabies.us/work.html --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: I need opinions.
I want real world opinions. Not text-book answers. I want to know what real people think. On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Mike Bydalek mike.byda...@gmail.comwrote: Honestly, I don't think this is the proper forum for this. The ride watching you bring up the site has been fun and entertaining, but this is a Linux group, not an English group. [snarky]You could use the free site you found and use someone there. I understand there are proofreaders there ;) [/snarky] -Mike On 2/15/12 4:48 PM, Michael Havens wrote: I created a webpage and I need opinions of the advertisement I'm putting on it. Could you please proof read it and tell me if it would turn you off or on or indifferant? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -begin ad--- Mike here, You know, I wanted to find a work-from-home job so badly that I followed many leads and I got scammed many times. Good news though! I finally found a web page that really does give work-from-home job opportunities. These jobs range from computer programmers to cartoon artists; from telephone interviewers to social workers; from proofreaders to typists. A great number of other opportunities are also at this site just awaiting an applicant. I feel as if I should just give the webpage to you but I also feel I've been scammed so often that I need to recoup some of my losses. So, simply pay $5.00 via paypal to havens.business@gmail.com and I'll send you the site. True, you could find it on your own; but I never did in the years of my search. I had to pay substantially more than the five I'm asking for... but what I did pay for is (in my opinion) unreasonable. I figure $5 is a fair price... not to much but perhaps too little. However, I know that if you are unemployed you are watching every penny so I definately don't want to hurt you. In fact, the site itself is free (at least it was when I used it) so there will be no further charges. If you don't have a paypal account you can sign uphttps://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_flowSESSION=yw2jOYFV_cSZwqueJhvzR_Pm5kfdzbo39DamN9SzvU4NEakJPc3XBYVP_Hidispatch=5885d80a13c0db1f8e263663d3faee8d4026841ac68a446f69dad17fb2afeca3for it for free and then link it to a bank account or a credit card. So the excuse that you don't have a paypal account is a lame excuse. Have a good day ya-all! -end ad- http://fatherswithforeignbabies.us/work.html --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: I need opinions.
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well,. what did you think of my website? Not bad for a beginner? fatherswithforeignbabies.us On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: And besides that what free site are you refering to? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: I need opinions.
Mike, I believe the foundation of PLUG is the notion that members of the Plug community give freely to each other as they can. For example, a member who has many years of experience as a Linux sysadmin making 6 figures does not ask a poster to donate $5 to them for solid advice on how to fix the poster's problem. They give back to the community because they know someday they will be the poster in need of assistance one day. Or, they give out of the need to support this community out of the goodness of their heart. With that said, I find your proposed post to be offensive and not at all in the spirit of this community. I also agree with Mike Bydalek that your proposed post is not even close to the stated purpose of this forum - We talk about the state of GNU/Linux, what we've recently done with GNU/Linux, share problems and create solutions. ( http://plug.phoenix.az.us/aboutplug.html) My 2 cents. Mark On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Mike Bydalek mike.byda...@gmail.comwrote: Honestly, I don't think this is the proper forum for this. The ride watching you bring up the site has been fun and entertaining, but this is a Linux group, not an English group. [snarky]You could use the free site you found and use someone there. I understand there are proofreaders there ;) [/snarky] -Mike On 2/15/12 4:48 PM, Michael Havens wrote: I created a webpage and I need opinions of the advertisement I'm putting on it. Could you please proof read it and tell me if it would turn you off or on or indifferant? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -begin ad--- Mike here, You know, I wanted to find a work-from-home job so badly that I followed many leads and I got scammed many times. Good news though! I finally found a web page that really does give work-from-home job opportunities. These jobs range from computer programmers to cartoon artists; from telephone interviewers to social workers; from proofreaders to typists. A great number of other opportunities are also at this site just awaiting an applicant. I feel as if I should just give the webpage to you but I also feel I've been scammed so often that I need to recoup some of my losses. So, simply pay $5.00 via paypal to havens.business@gmail.com and I'll send you the site. True, you could find it on your own; but I never did in the years of my search. I had to pay substantially more than the five I'm asking for... but what I did pay for is (in my opinion) unreasonable. I figure $5 is a fair price... not to much but perhaps too little. However, I know that if you are unemployed you are watching every penny so I definately don't want to hurt you. In fact, the site itself is free (at least it was when I used it) so there will be no further charges. If you don't have a paypal account you can sign uphttps://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_flowSESSION=yw2jOYFV_cSZwqueJhvzR_Pm5kfdzbo39DamN9SzvU4NEakJPc3XBYVP_Hidispatch=5885d80a13c0db1f8e263663d3faee8d4026841ac68a446f69dad17fb2afeca3for it for free and then link it to a bank account or a credit card. So the excuse that you don't have a paypal account is a lame excuse. Have a good day ya-all! -end ad- http://fatherswithforeignbabies.us/work.html --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: I need opinions.
Hi Mike, You may be onto something. My suggestion is to use a blog like WordPress. Lots of plugins and lots less programming. You will tire at some point dealing with static pages. WordPress was made for what you are trying to do. Or a forum might be good. I'd look at WordPress. Not WprdPress.com. Host your own on your domain. Keith Smith --- On Wed, 2/15/12, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: From: Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com Subject: I need opinions. To: Main PLUG discussion list PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Wednesday, February 15, 2012, 4:48 PM I created a webpage and I need opinions of the advertisement I'm putting on it. Could you please proof read it and tell me if it would turn you off or on or indifferant? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -begin ad--- Mike here, You know, I wanted to find a work-from-home job so badly that I followed many leads and I got scammed many times. Good news though! I finally found a web page that really does give work-from-home job opportunities. These jobs range from computer programmers to cartoon artists; from telephone interviewers to social workers; from proofreaders to typists. A great number of other opportunities are also at this site just awaiting an applicant. I feel as if I should just give the webpage to you but I also feel I've been scammed so often that I need to recoup some of my losses. So, simply pay $5.00 via paypal to havens.business@gmail.com and I'll send you the site. True, you could find it on your own; but I never did in the years of my search. I had to pay substantially more than the five I'm asking for... but what I did pay for is (in my opinion) unreasonable. I figure $5 is a fair price... not to much but perhaps too little. However, I know that if you are unemployed you are watching every penny so I definately don't want to hurt you. In fact, the site itself is free (at least it was when I used it) so there will be no further charges. If you don't have a paypal account you can sign up for it for free and then link it to a bank account or a credit card. So the excuse that you don't have a paypal account is a lame excuse. Have a good day ya-all! -end ad- http://fatherswithforeignbabies.us/work.html -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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Tend to agree, aside from the technical aspect of you getting the site up (congrats!), content is highly suggestive, and it's probably not the right forum for how to make my webpage pretty and saleable. There are plenty of sites that help you with design, but I'd suggest looking at wordpress or something as a cms, pick a theme (or pay for a nice pro one), then add content. You know what _good_ websites look like - not that. You need format, imagery, some moderately appeasing visuals that make me somehow feel you're not a 5th grader or a nigerian scammer that made a site with m$ frontpage '98 to exploit l-users. I can set up web servers all day, but my sense of aesthetics are terrible (why I'm an engineer and not a graphic designer), so I don't dare bother making an actual website. I'd say get some professional design help if you're trying to make cash at this. Seeing the page, I feel like if I were on windoze, I'd be infected by half a dozen worms by now. No offence, just being honest. -mb On 02/15/2012 05:00 PM, Mike Bydalek wrote: Honestly, I don't think this is the proper forum for this. The ride watching you bring up the site has been fun and entertaining, but this is a Linux group, not an English group. [snarky]You could use the free site you found and use someone there. I understand there are proofreaders there ;) [/snarky] -Mike On 2/15/12 4:48 PM, Michael Havens wrote: I created a webpage and I need opinions of the advertisement I'm putting on it. Could you please proof read it and tell me if it would turn you off or on or indifferant? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -begin ad--- Mike here, You know, I wanted to find a work-from-home job so badly that I followed many leads and I got scammed many times. Good news though! I finally found a web page that really does give work-from-home job opportunities. These jobs range from computer programmers to cartoon artists; from telephone interviewers to social workers; from proofreaders to typists. A great number of other opportunities are also at this site just awaiting an applicant. I feel as if I should just give the webpage to you but I also feel I've been scammed so often that I need to recoup some of my losses. So, simply pay $5.00 via paypal to havens.business@gmail.com and I'll send you the site. True, you could find it on your own; but I never did in the years of my search. I had to pay substantially more than the five I'm asking for... but what I did pay for is (in my opinion) unreasonable. I figure $5 is a fair price... not to much but perhaps too little. However, I know that if you are unemployed you are watching every penny so I definately don't want to hurt you. In fact, the site itself is free (at least it was when I used it) so there will be no further charges.If you don't have a paypal account you can sign up https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_flowSESSION=yw2jOYFV_cSZwqueJhvzR_Pm5kfdzbo39DamN9SzvU4NEakJPc3XBYVP_Hidispatch=5885d80a13c0db1f8e263663d3faee8d4026841ac68a446f69dad17fb2afeca3for it for free and then link it to a bank account or a credit card. So the excuse that you don't have a paypal account is a lame excuse. Have a good day ya-all! -end ad- http://fatherswithforeignbabies.us/work.html --- PLUG-discuss mailing list -PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: I need opinions.
This has to be a Turing Test. The free site that you are asking $5 for is right in your post. -Mike On 2/15/12 5:18 PM, Michael Havens wrote: well,. what did you think of my website? Not bad for a beginner? fatherswithforeignbabies.us http://fatherswithforeignbabies.us On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com mailto:bmi...@gmail.com wrote: And besides that what free site are you refering to? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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no offence at all.. this is what I want... real opinions! from intelligent people. Thank you On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote: Seeing the page, I feel like if I were on windoze, I'd be infected by half a dozen worms by now. No offence, just being honest. -mb -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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i always thought wordpress was a windows thing. Will it create the fourum like what I want with my website (fatherswithforeignbabies.us)? On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:19 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Mike, You may be onto something. My suggestion is to use a blog like WordPress. Lots of plugins and lots less programming. You will tire at some point dealing with static pages. WordPress was made for what you are trying to do. Or a forum might be good. I'd look at WordPress. Not WprdPress.com. Host your own on your domain. Keith Smith --- On *Wed, 2/15/12, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com Subject: I need opinions. To: Main PLUG discussion list PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Wednesday, February 15, 2012, 4:48 PM I created a webpage and I need opinions of the advertisement I'm putting on it. Could you please proof read it and tell me if it would turn you off or on or indifferant? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -begin ad--- Mike here, You know, I wanted to find a work-from-home job so badly that I followed many leads and I got scammed many times. Good news though! I finally found a web page that really does give work-from-home job opportunities. These jobs range from computer programmers to cartoon artists; from telephone interviewers to social workers; from proofreaders to typists. A great number of other opportunities are also at this site just awaiting an applicant. I feel as if I should just give the webpage to you but I also feel I've been scammed so often that I need to recoup some of my losses. So, simply pay $5.00 via paypal to havens.business@gmail.com and I'll send you the site. True, you could find it on your own; but I never did in the years of my search. I had to pay substantially more than the five I'm asking for... but what I did pay for is (in my opinion) unreasonable. I figure $5 is a fair price... not to much but perhaps too little. However, I know that if you are unemployed you are watching every penny so I definately don't want to hurt you. In fact, the site itself is free (at least it was when I used it) so there will be no further charges. If you don't have a paypal account you can sign uphttps://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_flowSESSION=yw2jOYFV_cSZwqueJhvzR_Pm5kfdzbo39DamN9SzvU4NEakJPc3XBYVP_Hidispatch=5885d80a13c0db1f8e263663d3faee8d4026841ac68a446f69dad17fb2afeca3for it for free and then link it to a bank account or a credit card. So the excuse that you don't have a paypal account is a lame excuse. Have a good day ya-all! -end ad- http://fatherswithforeignbabies.us/work.html -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.ushttp://mc/compose?to=PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: I need opinions.
wordpress won't work (I don't think) does anyone know of a forum template for kompozer that doesn't cost anything? Believe me. if I had any money I would be happy to pay for things but I don't have any money. The last 4 bucks in my checking account went to go daddy to pay for a domain that I can hopefully make some money with :) (onlineworkfinder.us) This is the page I'm going to put my ad on. I was thinking that making it real simple without all the hoopla that the scam sites usually have would be the best idea. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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Oh and in the spirit in which this forum was created if you want the website let me know and I will give it to you. On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: wordpress won't work (I don't think) does anyone know of a forum template for kompozer that doesn't cost anything? Believe me. if I had any money I would be happy to pay for things but I don't have any money. The last 4 bucks in my checking account went to go daddy to pay for a domain that I can hopefully make some money with :) (onlineworkfinder.us) This is the page I'm going to put my ad on. I was thinking that making it real simple without all the hoopla that the scam sites usually have would be the best idea. -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: I need opinions.
WordPress is a Content Management System (CMS). Written in PHP and runs just right on a LAMP server. Your host may provide an auto install script called Fantastico that will aid you in installing WordPress. WordPress is used for what you are trying to do. A forum would be a separate piece of software. Keith Smith --- On Wed, 2/15/12, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: From: Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: I need opinions. To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Wednesday, February 15, 2012, 5:50 PM i always thought wordpress was a windows thing. Will it create the fourum like what I want with my website (fatherswithforeignbabies.us)? On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:19 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Mike, You may be onto something. My suggestion is to use a blog like WordPress. Lots of plugins and lots less programming. You will tire at some point dealing with static pages. WordPress was made for what you are trying to do. Or a forum might be good. I'd look at WordPress. Not WprdPress.com. Host your own on your domain. Keith Smith --- On Wed, 2/15/12, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: From: Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com Subject: I need opinions. To: Main PLUG discussion list PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Wednesday, February 15, 2012, 4:48 PM I created a webpage and I need opinions of the advertisement I'm putting on it. Could you please proof read it and tell me if it would turn you off or on or indifferant? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -begin ad--- Mike here, You know, I wanted to find a work-from-home job so badly that I followed many leads and I got scammed many times. Good news though! I finally found a web page that really does give work-from-home job opportunities. These jobs range from computer programmers to cartoon artists; from telephone interviewers to social workers; from proofreaders to typists. A great number of other opportunities are also at this site just awaiting an applicant. I feel as if I should just give the webpage to you but I also feel I've been scammed so often that I need to recoup some of my losses. So, simply pay $5.00 via paypal to havens.business@gmail.com and I'll send you the site. True, you could find it on your own; but I never did in the years of my search. I had to pay substantially more than the five I'm asking for... but what I did pay for is (in my opinion) unreasonable. I figure $5 is a fair price... not to much but perhaps too little. However, I know that if you are unemployed you are watching every penny so I definately don't want to hurt you. In fact, the site itself is free (at least it was when I used it) so there will be no further charges. If you don't have a paypal account you can sign up for it for free and then link it to a bank account or a credit card. So the excuse that you don't have a paypal account is a lame excuse. Have a good day ya-all! -end ad- http://fatherswithforeignbabies.us/work.html -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: I need opinions.
Look for free WordPress templates. There are thousands for free. I would suggest taking some time and look at your options. If your site takes off and you build it wrong, you will pay later. Do some research. Install WordPress and look at the free templates. This is not a decision you can make in a couple hours. Keith Smith --- On Wed, 2/15/12, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: From: Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: I need opinions. To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Wednesday, February 15, 2012, 6:12 PM wordpress won't work (I don't think) does anyone know of a forum template for kompozer that doesn't cost anything? Believe me. if I had any money I would be happy to pay for things but I don't have any money. The last 4 bucks in my checking account went to go daddy to pay for a domain that I can hopefully make some money with :) (onlineworkfinder.us) This is the page I'm going to put my ad on. I was thinking that making it real simple without all the hoopla that the scam sites usually have would be the best idea. -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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there are a number of CMS based systems i have used drupal and joomla as well as plone. i have liked them all. in your case i think a simple blog style of entry, main landing page taking about what your core purpose is, then a forum for others to share and integrate. warning if you set up a forum you will need to police it pretty heavily. As for the page you are talking about i would shy away form adding that to the site just yet, but instead include a simple donation area. then gather resources related to the core purpose of your site. I would start with a core purpose and evolve from there.. find out what you want it to do then move in that direction. if you build a user-base ads and the like can help pay for it. but you have to give them something to build credibility. but if you pop up a link offering work from home jobs then ask money for it it will turn people off and make people think its an advertising site from the get rich quick scams. does that make sense? i would also consider changing the backgrounds. they make my eyes hurt ;-) -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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Exactly, something basic like a blog, about the author, some links to relevant things, thoughts, etc. Then maybe a sales pitch. Ideally you'd use seo to spam, er guide people to your page, pitch em, have them click on a paypal link or some such, auth, and profit. Whatever such you intend for them to do once there, you first need to drive people there, meaning you need to be found, and not immediately closed as irrelevant. These will give you a somewhat secure and well documented way to make a basic, manageable, and attractive site. Wordpress, joomla, etc all have a certain amount of presentation that makes your site relevant to google robots with keywords, or can be made to. I don't deal with that end of it, but others here can speak to them individually. Pick out a theme, just don't go crazy and make it myspace-ish with nauseating graphics everywhere. Then look up search engine optimization and dig to get it out there. What you want in your cms is a wealth of community (support) and plugins/modules in whatever you choose, and all aforementioned software have plenty of them. There are also hosted solutions of most of them canned to minimize the sysadmin involved - upload a theme and content, off you go. Tough part is giving someone a reason to stay around your site - one page won't do that, let alone sell a cause. -mb On 02/15/2012 07:11 PM, keith smith wrote: Look for free WordPress templates. There are thousands for free. I would suggest taking some time and look at your options. If your site takes off and you build it wrong, you will pay later. Do some research. Install WordPress and look at the free templates. This is not a decision you can make in a couple hours. Keith Smith --- On *Wed, 2/15/12, Michael Havens /bmi...@gmail.com/* wrote: From: Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: I need opinions. To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Wednesday, February 15, 2012, 6:12 PM wordpress won't work (I don't think) does anyone know of a forum template for kompozer that doesn't cost anything? Believe me. if I had any money I would be happy to pay for things but I don't have any money. The last 4 bucks in my checking account went to go daddy to pay for a domain that I can hopefully make some money with :) (onlineworkfinder.us http://onlineworkfinder.us) This is the page I'm going to put my ad on. I was thinking that making it real simple without all the hoopla that the scam sites usually have would be the best idea. -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us /mc/compose?to=PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
