Re: Linux Security Team March 12 is SBHACKER CABLE MODEM LAB - Let's rebuild some Motorola Modems with Linux?
You have to take them apart. Please either attend the event or look on sbhacker.com or youtube.com for videos. On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Michael Havens wrote: > a jtag usb has a 6-pin connector (according to > http://www.digilentinc.com/Products/Detail.cfm?Prod=JTAG-USB). NOne of my > devices have 6-pin connectors. I do have a usb cord with a rectangular > connector on one end and a squareish connector on the other. > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > >> 5101's work great but you still need the JTAG USB to get the sbhacker >> firmware onto the device, so you basically have to show up to the lab or buy >> one yourself from EBay or sbhacker. >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Michael Havens wrote: >> >>> only have 5100s >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Lisa Kachold >>> wrote: >>> If you have a 6100 Motorola Docsis 3, we will be able to provide USB JTAG (solderless connections) and firmware from sbhacker. On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Stephen wrote: > Hmmm ill have to see if my schedule will allow. > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Lisa Kachold > wrote: > > Bring your 6120, I have a USB JTAG that will work with it. > > > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Stephen > wrote: > >> > >> why couldnt this be for the 6120 :-) > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Lisa Kachold < > lisakach...@obnosis.com> > >> wrote: > >> > Monthly security presentation labs, with open community > participation > >> > occur, > >> > on the Second and Third Saturday of every month in Chandler at > >> > Gangplankhq.com. > >> > > >> > March 12, 2011 is CableModem SBHACKER demonstration Lab. > >> > > >> > Bring your 5101 and 5100 Motorola Modems for us to revive with a > fine > >> > linux > >> > stack? > >> > > >> > Ethical and legal, as well as liability aspects of security > testing are > >> > covered as we investigate the strange world of computer insecurity > from > >> > our > >> > lofty Penguin perspectives. > >> > > >> > Hack test your installations, networks, and program source using > Linux > >> > Security distribution tools. > >> > > >> > Meeting facilities generously provided by Gangplankhq.com in > Chandler. > >> > > >> > Metasploit Unleashed Tutorial > >> > September's BT4 (Kachold) Presentation > >> > October's 802.11 Wireless BT4 (Kachold) Presentation > >> > November's SSLStrip MP4 (Fields) PresentationA > >> > SSLStrip PPT (Fields) PresentationB > >> > Metasploit_(Kachold) CheatSheet > >> > SSLStrip-cheatsheet > >> > > >> > -- > >> > (503) 754-4452 > >> > (623) 688-3392 > >> > > >> > SBHACKER CABLE MODEM Hacking Lab > >> > Next PLUG Security Team March 12, Saturday Noon - 15:00 > Gangplankhq.com > >> > http://plug.phoenix.az.us > >> > > >> > > >> > http://www.obnosis.com > >> > Catch My MetaSploit & IP CAM Surveillance > >> > Presentations @ ABLEConf.com in April! > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > --- > >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you > from > >> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze > button. > >> > >> Stephen > >> --- > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > > > -- > > (503) 754-4452 > > (623) 688-3392 > > > > http://www.obnosis.com > > Catch My MetaSploit & IP CAM Surveillance > > Presentations @ ABLEConf.com in April! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > -- > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. > > Stephen > -- (503) 754-4452 (623) 688
Re: Linux Security Team March 12 is SBHACKER CABLE MODEM LAB - Let's rebuild some Motorola Modems with Linux?
a jtag usb has a 6-pin connector (according to http://www.digilentinc.com/Products/Detail.cfm?Prod=JTAG-USB). NOne of my devices have 6-pin connectors. I do have a usb cord with a rectangular connector on one end and a squareish connector on the other. On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > 5101's work great but you still need the JTAG USB to get the sbhacker > firmware onto the device, so you basically have to show up to the lab or buy > one yourself from EBay or sbhacker. > > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Michael Havens wrote: > >> only have 5100s >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: >> >>> If you have a 6100 Motorola Docsis 3, we will be able to provide USB JTAG >>> (solderless connections) and firmware from sbhacker. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Stephen wrote: >>> Hmmm ill have to see if my schedule will allow. On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > Bring your 6120, I have a USB JTAG that will work with it. > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Stephen wrote: >> >> why couldnt this be for the 6120 :-) >> >> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Lisa Kachold < lisakach...@obnosis.com> >> wrote: >> > Monthly security presentation labs, with open community participation >> > occur, >> > on the Second and Third Saturday of every month in Chandler at >> > Gangplankhq.com. >> > >> > March 12, 2011 is CableModem SBHACKER demonstration Lab. >> > >> > Bring your 5101 and 5100 Motorola Modems for us to revive with a fine >> > linux >> > stack? >> > >> > Ethical and legal, as well as liability aspects of security testing are >> > covered as we investigate the strange world of computer insecurity from >> > our >> > lofty Penguin perspectives. >> > >> > Hack test your installations, networks, and program source using Linux >> > Security distribution tools. >> > >> > Meeting facilities generously provided by Gangplankhq.com in Chandler. >> > >> > Metasploit Unleashed Tutorial >> > September's BT4 (Kachold) Presentation >> > October's 802.11 Wireless BT4 (Kachold) Presentation >> > November's SSLStrip MP4 (Fields) PresentationA >> > SSLStrip PPT (Fields) PresentationB >> > Metasploit_(Kachold) CheatSheet >> > SSLStrip-cheatsheet >> > >> > -- >> > (503) 754-4452 >> > (623) 688-3392 >> > >> > SBHACKER CABLE MODEM Hacking Lab >> > Next PLUG Security Team March 12, Saturday Noon - 15:00 Gangplankhq.com >> > http://plug.phoenix.az.us >> > >> > >> > http://www.obnosis.com >> > Catch My MetaSploit & IP CAM Surveillance >> > Presentations @ ABLEConf.com in April! >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > --- >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >> >> Stephen >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > -- > (503) 754-4452 > (623) 688-3392 > > http://www.obnosis.com > Catch My MetaSploit & IP CAM Surveillance > Presentations @ ABLEConf.com in April! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> (503) 754-4452 >>> (623) 688-3392 >>> >>> http://www.obnosis.com >>> *Catch My MetaSploit & IP CAM Surveillance >>> Presentations @ ABLEConf.com in April!* >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to
Re: Linux Security Team March 12 is SBHACKER CABLE MODEM LAB - Let's rebuild some Motorola Modems with Linux?
5101's work great but you still need the JTAG USB to get the sbhacker firmware onto the device, so you basically have to show up to the lab or buy one yourself from EBay or sbhacker. On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Michael Havens wrote: > only have 5100s > > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > >> If you have a 6100 Motorola Docsis 3, we will be able to provide USB JTAG >> (solderless connections) and firmware from sbhacker. >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Stephen wrote: >> >>> Hmmm ill have to see if my schedule will allow. >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Lisa Kachold >>> wrote: >>> > Bring your 6120, I have a USB JTAG that will work with it. >>> > >>> > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Stephen wrote: >>> >> >>> >> why couldnt this be for the 6120 :-) >>> >> >>> >> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Lisa Kachold < >>> lisakach...@obnosis.com> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> > Monthly security presentation labs, with open community >>> participation >>> >> > occur, >>> >> > on the Second and Third Saturday of every month in Chandler at >>> >> > Gangplankhq.com. >>> >> > >>> >> > March 12, 2011 is CableModem SBHACKER demonstration Lab. >>> >> > >>> >> > Bring your 5101 and 5100 Motorola Modems for us to revive with a >>> fine >>> >> > linux >>> >> > stack? >>> >> > >>> >> > Ethical and legal, as well as liability aspects of security testing >>> are >>> >> > covered as we investigate the strange world of computer insecurity >>> from >>> >> > our >>> >> > lofty Penguin perspectives. >>> >> > >>> >> > Hack test your installations, networks, and program source using >>> Linux >>> >> > Security distribution tools. >>> >> > >>> >> > Meeting facilities generously provided by Gangplankhq.com in >>> Chandler. >>> >> > >>> >> > Metasploit Unleashed Tutorial >>> >> > September's BT4 (Kachold) Presentation >>> >> > October's 802.11 Wireless BT4 (Kachold) Presentation >>> >> > November's SSLStrip MP4 (Fields) PresentationA >>> >> > SSLStrip PPT (Fields) PresentationB >>> >> > Metasploit_(Kachold) CheatSheet >>> >> > SSLStrip-cheatsheet >>> >> > >>> >> > -- >>> >> > (503) 754-4452 >>> >> > (623) 688-3392 >>> >> > >>> >> > SBHACKER CABLE MODEM Hacking Lab >>> >> > Next PLUG Security Team March 12, Saturday Noon - 15:00 >>> Gangplankhq.com >>> >> > http://plug.phoenix.az.us >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > http://www.obnosis.com >>> >> > Catch My MetaSploit & IP CAM Surveillance >>> >> > Presentations @ ABLEConf.com in April! >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > --- >>> >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> >> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >>> >> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >>> >> >>> >> Stephen >>> >> --- >>> >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > (503) 754-4452 >>> > (623) 688-3392 >>> > >>> > http://www.obnosis.com >>> > Catch My MetaSploit & IP CAM Surveillance >>> > Presentations @ ABLEConf.com in April! >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > --- >>> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >>> >>> Stephen >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> (503) 754-4452 >> (623) 688-3392 >> >> http://www.obnosis.com >> *Catch My MetaSploit & IP CAM Surveillance >> Presentations @ ABLEConf.com in April!* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- (503) 754-4452 (623) 688-3392 http://www.obnosis.com *Catch My MetaSploit & IP CAM Surveillance Presentations @ ABLECon
Re: Linux Security Team March 12 is SBHACKER CABLE MODEM LAB - Let's rebuild some Motorola Modems with Linux?
I WILL post the presentation materials but you need a usb jtag device to get the firmware on them. On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Michael Havens wrote: > could you possibly send me instructions and the stack to install and maybe > the notes for the presentation? Sounds interesting? right now I have sigma x > installed on them. I bought them like that. > > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Michael Havens wrote: > >> man, I wish I could come! I have 3 5100s. >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: >> >>> Bring your 6120, I have a USB JTAG that will work with it. >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Stephen wrote: >>> why couldnt this be for the 6120 :-) On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > Monthly security presentation labs, with open community participation occur, > on the Second and Third Saturday of every month in Chandler at > Gangplankhq.com. > > March 12, 2011 is CableModem SBHACKER demonstration Lab. > > Bring your 5101 and 5100 Motorola Modems for us to revive with a fine linux > stack? > > Ethical and legal, as well as liability aspects of security testing are > covered as we investigate the strange world of computer insecurity from our > lofty Penguin perspectives. > > Hack test your installations, networks, and program source using Linux > Security distribution tools. > > Meeting facilities generously provided by Gangplankhq.com in Chandler. > > Metasploit Unleashed Tutorial > September's BT4 (Kachold) Presentation > October's 802.11 Wireless BT4 (Kachold) Presentation > November's SSLStrip MP4 (Fields) PresentationA > SSLStrip PPT (Fields) PresentationB > Metasploit_(Kachold) CheatSheet > SSLStrip-cheatsheet > > -- > (503) 754-4452 > (623) 688-3392 > > SBHACKER CABLE MODEM Hacking Lab > Next PLUG Security Team March 12, Saturday Noon - 15:00 Gangplankhq.com > http://plug.phoenix.az.us > > > http://www.obnosis.com > Catch My MetaSploit & IP CAM Surveillance > Presentations @ ABLEConf.com in April! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> (503) 754-4452 >>> (623) 688-3392 >>> >>> http://www.obnosis.com >>> *Catch My MetaSploit & IP CAM Surveillance >>> Presentations @ ABLEConf.com in April!* >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> > > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- (503) 754-4452 (623) 688-3392 http://www.obnosis.com *Catch My MetaSploit & IP CAM Surveillance Presentations @ ABLEConf.com in April!* --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Linux Security Team March 12 is SBHACKER CABLE MODEM LAB - Let's rebuild some Motorola Modems with Linux?
I will post the presentation materials but you need a USB JTAG device to get the firmware onto the system. On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Michael Havens wrote: > man, I wish I could come! I have 3 5100s. > > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > >> Bring your 6120, I have a USB JTAG that will work with it. >> >> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Stephen wrote: >> >>> why couldnt this be for the 6120 :-) >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Lisa Kachold >>> wrote: >>> > Monthly security presentation labs, with open community participation >>> occur, >>> > on the Second and Third Saturday of every month in Chandler at >>> > Gangplankhq.com. >>> > >>> > March 12, 2011 is CableModem SBHACKER demonstration Lab. >>> > >>> > Bring your 5101 and 5100 Motorola Modems for us to revive with a fine >>> linux >>> > stack? >>> > >>> > Ethical and legal, as well as liability aspects of security testing are >>> > covered as we investigate the strange world of computer insecurity from >>> our >>> > lofty Penguin perspectives. >>> > >>> > Hack test your installations, networks, and program source using Linux >>> > Security distribution tools. >>> > >>> > Meeting facilities generously provided by Gangplankhq.com in Chandler. >>> > >>> > Metasploit Unleashed Tutorial >>> > September's BT4 (Kachold) Presentation >>> > October's 802.11 Wireless BT4 (Kachold) Presentation >>> > November's SSLStrip MP4 (Fields) PresentationA >>> > SSLStrip PPT (Fields) PresentationB >>> > Metasploit_(Kachold) CheatSheet >>> > SSLStrip-cheatsheet >>> > >>> > -- >>> > (503) 754-4452 >>> > (623) 688-3392 >>> > >>> > SBHACKER CABLE MODEM Hacking Lab >>> > Next PLUG Security Team March 12, Saturday Noon - 15:00 Gangplankhq.com >>> > http://plug.phoenix.az.us >>> > >>> > >>> > http://www.obnosis.com >>> > Catch My MetaSploit & IP CAM Surveillance >>> > Presentations @ ABLEConf.com in April! >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > --- >>> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >>> >>> Stephen >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> (503) 754-4452 >> (623) 688-3392 >> >> http://www.obnosis.com >> *Catch My MetaSploit & IP CAM Surveillance >> Presentations @ ABLEConf.com in April!* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- (503) 754-4452 (623) 688-3392 http://www.obnosis.com *Catch My MetaSploit & IP CAM Surveillance Presentations @ ABLEConf.com in April!* --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Linux Security Team March 12 is SBHACKER CABLE MODEM LAB - Let's rebuild some Motorola Modems with Linux?
only have 5100s On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > If you have a 6100 Motorola Docsis 3, we will be able to provide USB JTAG > (solderless connections) and firmware from sbhacker. > > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Stephen wrote: > >> Hmmm ill have to see if my schedule will allow. >> >> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Lisa Kachold >> wrote: >> > Bring your 6120, I have a USB JTAG that will work with it. >> > >> > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Stephen wrote: >> >> >> >> why couldnt this be for the 6120 :-) >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Lisa Kachold > > >> >> wrote: >> >> > Monthly security presentation labs, with open community participation >> >> > occur, >> >> > on the Second and Third Saturday of every month in Chandler at >> >> > Gangplankhq.com. >> >> > >> >> > March 12, 2011 is CableModem SBHACKER demonstration Lab. >> >> > >> >> > Bring your 5101 and 5100 Motorola Modems for us to revive with a fine >> >> > linux >> >> > stack? >> >> > >> >> > Ethical and legal, as well as liability aspects of security testing >> are >> >> > covered as we investigate the strange world of computer insecurity >> from >> >> > our >> >> > lofty Penguin perspectives. >> >> > >> >> > Hack test your installations, networks, and program source using >> Linux >> >> > Security distribution tools. >> >> > >> >> > Meeting facilities generously provided by Gangplankhq.com in >> Chandler. >> >> > >> >> > Metasploit Unleashed Tutorial >> >> > September's BT4 (Kachold) Presentation >> >> > October's 802.11 Wireless BT4 (Kachold) Presentation >> >> > November's SSLStrip MP4 (Fields) PresentationA >> >> > SSLStrip PPT (Fields) PresentationB >> >> > Metasploit_(Kachold) CheatSheet >> >> > SSLStrip-cheatsheet >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > (503) 754-4452 >> >> > (623) 688-3392 >> >> > >> >> > SBHACKER CABLE MODEM Hacking Lab >> >> > Next PLUG Security Team March 12, Saturday Noon - 15:00 >> Gangplankhq.com >> >> > http://plug.phoenix.az.us >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > http://www.obnosis.com >> >> > Catch My MetaSploit & IP CAM Surveillance >> >> > Presentations @ ABLEConf.com in April! >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > --- >> >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> >> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >> >> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >> >> >> >> Stephen >> >> --- >> >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > (503) 754-4452 >> > (623) 688-3392 >> > >> > http://www.obnosis.com >> > Catch My MetaSploit & IP CAM Surveillance >> > Presentations @ ABLEConf.com in April! >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > --- >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >> >> Stephen >> > > > > -- > (503) 754-4452 > (623) 688-3392 > > http://www.obnosis.com > *Catch My MetaSploit & IP CAM Surveillance > Presentations @ ABLEConf.com in April!* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Linux Security Team March 12 is SBHACKER CABLE MODEM LAB - Let's rebuild some Motorola Modems with Linux?
If you have a 6100 Motorola Docsis 3, we will be able to provide USB JTAG (solderless connections) and firmware from sbhacker. On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Stephen wrote: > Hmmm ill have to see if my schedule will allow. > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Lisa Kachold > wrote: > > Bring your 6120, I have a USB JTAG that will work with it. > > > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Stephen wrote: > >> > >> why couldnt this be for the 6120 :-) > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Lisa Kachold > >> wrote: > >> > Monthly security presentation labs, with open community participation > >> > occur, > >> > on the Second and Third Saturday of every month in Chandler at > >> > Gangplankhq.com. > >> > > >> > March 12, 2011 is CableModem SBHACKER demonstration Lab. > >> > > >> > Bring your 5101 and 5100 Motorola Modems for us to revive with a fine > >> > linux > >> > stack? > >> > > >> > Ethical and legal, as well as liability aspects of security testing > are > >> > covered as we investigate the strange world of computer insecurity > from > >> > our > >> > lofty Penguin perspectives. > >> > > >> > Hack test your installations, networks, and program source using Linux > >> > Security distribution tools. > >> > > >> > Meeting facilities generously provided by Gangplankhq.com in Chandler. > >> > > >> > Metasploit Unleashed Tutorial > >> > September's BT4 (Kachold) Presentation > >> > October's 802.11 Wireless BT4 (Kachold) Presentation > >> > November's SSLStrip MP4 (Fields) PresentationA > >> > SSLStrip PPT (Fields) PresentationB > >> > Metasploit_(Kachold) CheatSheet > >> > SSLStrip-cheatsheet > >> > > >> > -- > >> > (503) 754-4452 > >> > (623) 688-3392 > >> > > >> > SBHACKER CABLE MODEM Hacking Lab > >> > Next PLUG Security Team March 12, Saturday Noon - 15:00 > Gangplankhq.com > >> > http://plug.phoenix.az.us > >> > > >> > > >> > http://www.obnosis.com > >> > Catch My MetaSploit & IP CAM Surveillance > >> > Presentations @ ABLEConf.com in April! > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > --- > >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from > >> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. > >> > >> Stephen > >> --- > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > > > -- > > (503) 754-4452 > > (623) 688-3392 > > > > http://www.obnosis.com > > Catch My MetaSploit & IP CAM Surveillance > > Presentations @ ABLEConf.com in April! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > -- > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. > > Stephen > -- (503) 754-4452 (623) 688-3392 http://www.obnosis.com *Catch My MetaSploit & IP CAM Surveillance Presentations @ ABLEConf.com in April!* --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Linux Security Team March 12 is SBHACKER CABLE MODEM LAB - Let's rebuild some Motorola Modems with Linux?
could you possibly send me instructions and the stack to install and maybe the notes for the presentation? Sounds interesting? right now I have sigma x installed on them. I bought them like that. On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Michael Havens wrote: > man, I wish I could come! I have 3 5100s. > > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > >> Bring your 6120, I have a USB JTAG that will work with it. >> >> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Stephen wrote: >> >>> why couldnt this be for the 6120 :-) >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Lisa Kachold >>> wrote: >>> > Monthly security presentation labs, with open community participation >>> occur, >>> > on the Second and Third Saturday of every month in Chandler at >>> > Gangplankhq.com. >>> > >>> > March 12, 2011 is CableModem SBHACKER demonstration Lab. >>> > >>> > Bring your 5101 and 5100 Motorola Modems for us to revive with a fine >>> linux >>> > stack? >>> > >>> > Ethical and legal, as well as liability aspects of security testing are >>> > covered as we investigate the strange world of computer insecurity from >>> our >>> > lofty Penguin perspectives. >>> > >>> > Hack test your installations, networks, and program source using Linux >>> > Security distribution tools. >>> > >>> > Meeting facilities generously provided by Gangplankhq.com in Chandler. >>> > >>> > Metasploit Unleashed Tutorial >>> > September's BT4 (Kachold) Presentation >>> > October's 802.11 Wireless BT4 (Kachold) Presentation >>> > November's SSLStrip MP4 (Fields) PresentationA >>> > SSLStrip PPT (Fields) PresentationB >>> > Metasploit_(Kachold) CheatSheet >>> > SSLStrip-cheatsheet >>> > >>> > -- >>> > (503) 754-4452 >>> > (623) 688-3392 >>> > >>> > SBHACKER CABLE MODEM Hacking Lab >>> > Next PLUG Security Team March 12, Saturday Noon - 15:00 Gangplankhq.com >>> > http://plug.phoenix.az.us >>> > >>> > >>> > http://www.obnosis.com >>> > Catch My MetaSploit & IP CAM Surveillance >>> > Presentations @ ABLEConf.com in April! >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > --- >>> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >>> >>> Stephen >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> (503) 754-4452 >> (623) 688-3392 >> >> http://www.obnosis.com >> *Catch My MetaSploit & IP CAM Surveillance >> Presentations @ ABLEConf.com in April!* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Linux Security Team March 12 is SBHACKER CABLE MODEM LAB - Let's rebuild some Motorola Modems with Linux?
man, I wish I could come! I have 3 5100s. On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > Bring your 6120, I have a USB JTAG that will work with it. > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Stephen wrote: > >> why couldnt this be for the 6120 :-) >> >> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Lisa Kachold >> wrote: >> > Monthly security presentation labs, with open community participation >> occur, >> > on the Second and Third Saturday of every month in Chandler at >> > Gangplankhq.com. >> > >> > March 12, 2011 is CableModem SBHACKER demonstration Lab. >> > >> > Bring your 5101 and 5100 Motorola Modems for us to revive with a fine >> linux >> > stack? >> > >> > Ethical and legal, as well as liability aspects of security testing are >> > covered as we investigate the strange world of computer insecurity from >> our >> > lofty Penguin perspectives. >> > >> > Hack test your installations, networks, and program source using Linux >> > Security distribution tools. >> > >> > Meeting facilities generously provided by Gangplankhq.com in Chandler. >> > >> > Metasploit Unleashed Tutorial >> > September's BT4 (Kachold) Presentation >> > October's 802.11 Wireless BT4 (Kachold) Presentation >> > November's SSLStrip MP4 (Fields) PresentationA >> > SSLStrip PPT (Fields) PresentationB >> > Metasploit_(Kachold) CheatSheet >> > SSLStrip-cheatsheet >> > >> > -- >> > (503) 754-4452 >> > (623) 688-3392 >> > >> > SBHACKER CABLE MODEM Hacking Lab >> > Next PLUG Security Team March 12, Saturday Noon - 15:00 Gangplankhq.com >> > http://plug.phoenix.az.us >> > >> > >> > http://www.obnosis.com >> > Catch My MetaSploit & IP CAM Surveillance >> > Presentations @ ABLEConf.com in April! >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > --- >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >> >> Stephen >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > > -- > (503) 754-4452 > (623) 688-3392 > > http://www.obnosis.com > *Catch My MetaSploit & IP CAM Surveillance > Presentations @ ABLEConf.com in April!* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Linux Security Team March 12 is SBHACKER CABLE MODEM LAB - Let's rebuild some Motorola Modems with Linux?
Hmmm ill have to see if my schedule will allow. On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > Bring your 6120, I have a USB JTAG that will work with it. > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Stephen wrote: >> >> why couldnt this be for the 6120 :-) >> >> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Lisa Kachold >> wrote: >> > Monthly security presentation labs, with open community participation >> > occur, >> > on the Second and Third Saturday of every month in Chandler at >> > Gangplankhq.com. >> > >> > March 12, 2011 is CableModem SBHACKER demonstration Lab. >> > >> > Bring your 5101 and 5100 Motorola Modems for us to revive with a fine >> > linux >> > stack? >> > >> > Ethical and legal, as well as liability aspects of security testing are >> > covered as we investigate the strange world of computer insecurity from >> > our >> > lofty Penguin perspectives. >> > >> > Hack test your installations, networks, and program source using Linux >> > Security distribution tools. >> > >> > Meeting facilities generously provided by Gangplankhq.com in Chandler. >> > >> > Metasploit Unleashed Tutorial >> > September's BT4 (Kachold) Presentation >> > October's 802.11 Wireless BT4 (Kachold) Presentation >> > November's SSLStrip MP4 (Fields) PresentationA >> > SSLStrip PPT (Fields) PresentationB >> > Metasploit_(Kachold) CheatSheet >> > SSLStrip-cheatsheet >> > >> > -- >> > (503) 754-4452 >> > (623) 688-3392 >> > >> > SBHACKER CABLE MODEM Hacking Lab >> > Next PLUG Security Team March 12, Saturday Noon - 15:00 Gangplankhq.com >> > http://plug.phoenix.az.us >> > >> > >> > http://www.obnosis.com >> > Catch My MetaSploit & IP CAM Surveillance >> > Presentations @ ABLEConf.com in April! >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > --- >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >> >> Stephen >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > -- > (503) 754-4452 > (623) 688-3392 > > http://www.obnosis.com > Catch My MetaSploit & IP CAM Surveillance > Presentations @ ABLEConf.com in April! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Linux Security Team March 12 is SBHACKER CABLE MODEM LAB - Let's rebuild some Motorola Modems with Linux?
Bring your 6120, I have a USB JTAG that will work with it. On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Stephen wrote: > why couldnt this be for the 6120 :-) > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Lisa Kachold > wrote: > > Monthly security presentation labs, with open community participation > occur, > > on the Second and Third Saturday of every month in Chandler at > > Gangplankhq.com. > > > > March 12, 2011 is CableModem SBHACKER demonstration Lab. > > > > Bring your 5101 and 5100 Motorola Modems for us to revive with a fine > linux > > stack? > > > > Ethical and legal, as well as liability aspects of security testing are > > covered as we investigate the strange world of computer insecurity from > our > > lofty Penguin perspectives. > > > > Hack test your installations, networks, and program source using Linux > > Security distribution tools. > > > > Meeting facilities generously provided by Gangplankhq.com in Chandler. > > > > Metasploit Unleashed Tutorial > > September's BT4 (Kachold) Presentation > > October's 802.11 Wireless BT4 (Kachold) Presentation > > November's SSLStrip MP4 (Fields) PresentationA > > SSLStrip PPT (Fields) PresentationB > > Metasploit_(Kachold) CheatSheet > > SSLStrip-cheatsheet > > > > -- > > (503) 754-4452 > > (623) 688-3392 > > > > SBHACKER CABLE MODEM Hacking Lab > > Next PLUG Security Team March 12, Saturday Noon - 15:00 Gangplankhq.com > > http://plug.phoenix.az.us > > > > > > http://www.obnosis.com > > Catch My MetaSploit & IP CAM Surveillance > > Presentations @ ABLEConf.com in April! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > -- > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. > > Stephen > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- (503) 754-4452 (623) 688-3392 http://www.obnosis.com *Catch My MetaSploit & IP CAM Surveillance Presentations @ ABLEConf.com in April!* --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Linux Security Team March 12 is SBHACKER CABLE MODEM LAB - Let's rebuild some Motorola Modems with Linux?
why couldnt this be for the 6120 :-) On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > Monthly security presentation labs, with open community participation occur, > on the Second and Third Saturday of every month in Chandler at > Gangplankhq.com. > > March 12, 2011 is CableModem SBHACKER demonstration Lab. > > Bring your 5101 and 5100 Motorola Modems for us to revive with a fine linux > stack? > > Ethical and legal, as well as liability aspects of security testing are > covered as we investigate the strange world of computer insecurity from our > lofty Penguin perspectives. > > Hack test your installations, networks, and program source using Linux > Security distribution tools. > > Meeting facilities generously provided by Gangplankhq.com in Chandler. > > Metasploit Unleashed Tutorial > September's BT4 (Kachold) Presentation > October's 802.11 Wireless BT4 (Kachold) Presentation > November's SSLStrip MP4 (Fields) PresentationA > SSLStrip PPT (Fields) PresentationB > Metasploit_(Kachold) CheatSheet > SSLStrip-cheatsheet > > -- > (503) 754-4452 > (623) 688-3392 > > SBHACKER CABLE MODEM Hacking Lab > Next PLUG Security Team March 12, Saturday Noon - 15:00 Gangplankhq.com > http://plug.phoenix.az.us > > > http://www.obnosis.com > Catch My MetaSploit & IP CAM Surveillance > Presentations @ ABLEConf.com in April! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
