Re: OT: Match.com's Message System Exposes Private "Outside" Email Addresses
Now, somebody got the picture!!!:) ET PS: Man, I'll be laughing about this one for some time... Lisa Kachold writes: > http://www.obnosis.com/motivatebytruth/tech%20support%20demotivator.jpg > > On 6/26/09, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: >> You made my point: >> "competent person", "technical support" and "Corporate America" don't go >> together in a meaningful sentence! ;-) >> ET >> >> >> Stephen writes: >> >>> Hey i used to be Tech support and very competent... then the >>> incompetent company fell apart... its still there but a disaster of a >>> company. >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:48 AM, >>> kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: >> if actually READ by a competent person would tell the tale ... C'mon, you're kidding us, are you? "competent person" in "technical support" of "Corporate America" is just an overblown fairy tale... ;-) ET >>> >>> >>> -- >>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >>> >>> Stephen >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > -- > (503)754-4452 tribe.obnosis.com > scientology.obnosis.com > plug.obnosis.com > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Match.com's Message System Exposes Private "Outside" Email Addresses
http://www.obnosis.com/motivatebytruth/tech%20support%20demotivator.jpg On 6/26/09, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: > You made my point: > "competent person", "technical support" and "Corporate America" don't go > together in a meaningful sentence! ;-) > ET > > > Stephen writes: > >> Hey i used to be Tech support and very competent... then the >> incompetent company fell apart... its still there but a disaster of a >> company. >> >> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:48 AM, >> kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: > if actually READ by a competent person would tell the tale ... >>> C'mon, you're kidding us, are you? >>> "competent person" in "technical support" of "Corporate America" is just >>> an >>> overblown fairy tale... >>> ;-) >>> ET >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >> >> Stephen >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- (503)754-4452 tribe.obnosis.com scientology.obnosis.com plug.obnosis.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Match.com's Message System Exposes Private "Outside" Email Addresses - Class Action Suit
If you would like to join the class action suit email: matchdotcomclassact...@gmail.com Which is Nora Hart @ http://treulaw.com/index.html On 6/26/09, Lisa Kachold wrote: > See Article: > > Match.com Lawsuit Update, And Thoughts > > Norah hart lawyer OPW -- June 22 -- OPW had a chat with Norah Hart, > the attorney representing Sean McGinn, the 'cuddly but toned' man who > filed a recent lawsuit against Match.com. This is the lawsuit that > says Match.com misleads consumers about potential matches with > inactive members. It is Hart’s assertion that “Match defrauds the > consumer of their time and personal investment every time a person > pays Match’s subscription fee and writes to a member who won’t have > the ability to read what they wrote or see their profile.” > > The one main thing that they seem to be pinning the case on is the > fact that when you look at a profile, you cannot tell if a person is a > subscriber or a free member. You also cannot tell how long its been > since they’ve logged onto the site beyond three weeks. It is this > practice that they want to go after Match.com for. Should they win, > this would have a significant impact on every dating site that doesn’t > list subscriber status or caps activity reporting on their members at > three weeks or so. > > Norah Hart contends that, “When a subscriber cancels their > subscription, their profile continues to appear to be that of an > active subscriber. Nothing indicates to the viewer their limited > access to read e-mails or respond to them.” > > The problem with this argument is that just because someone cancels > their paid subscription to a site, it does not mean that they are > canceling their membership. They might be paring back their > involvement in the site because they are evaluating a new > relationship. They may just be taking a month off the subscription > because they want to save money. It also does not take into account > winking, which is a free feature on Match for all members, regardless > of paid status. > > Internet dating is like fishing. Those with paid memberships just > cast out further and more frequently. Those with idle unpaid > memberships are waiting for the big fish. The question is, should the > dating site identify the pro fishermen from the amateurs? I think the > amateur fisherman would rather keep their hooks in the water. The > fish, meanwhile, would want to see when someone last logged in. That's > the best indicator of activity and the potential to respond. Still, is > 3 weeks long enough? How about 3 months? Anyone who hasn't been > active in 3 months would be very unlikely to respond. > > Hart goes on to contend that her client is, “The perfect example of a > man who is really attractive, extremely eligible and gainfully > employed. He’s writing to people and hears nothing back from them. Is > that because they’re not interested? That’s highly unlikely.” > > What she isn’t taking into account is that there could be numerous > factors contributing to his failure on the dating site. His photo, > profile, what he says in his emails, and even his dating strategy > could be letting him down. > > As Hart is seeking a Jury trial, it will all come down to what the > people decide and how strong Sean McGinn’s claims of anguish can sway > them. Of course, the argument may be diluted by the fact that he did > eventually find his girlfriend on match.com according to a recent > report on Fox News. > > From: > http://www.onlinepersonalswatch.com/news/2009/06/matchcom-lawsuit-update-and-thoughts.html > > > On 6/26/09, Bob Elzer wrote: >> Was it Match.com >> >> LOL >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of >> Stephen >> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:51 AM >> To: Main PLUG discussion list >> Subject: Re: OT: Match.com's Message System Exposes Private "Outside" >> Email >> Addresses >> >> Hey i used to be Tech support and very competent... then the incompetent >> company fell apart... its still there but a disaster of a company. >> >> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:48 AM, >> kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: >>>>> if actually READ by a competent person would tell the tale ... >>> C'mon, you're kidding us, are you? >>> "competent person" in "technical support" of "Corporate America" is >>> just an overblown fairy tale... >>> ;-) >>> ET >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm cl
Re: OT: Match.com's Message System Exposes Private "Outside" Email Addresses
See Article: Match.com Lawsuit Update, And Thoughts Norah hart lawyer OPW -- June 22 -- OPW had a chat with Norah Hart, the attorney representing Sean McGinn, the 'cuddly but toned' man who filed a recent lawsuit against Match.com. This is the lawsuit that says Match.com misleads consumers about potential matches with inactive members. It is Hart’s assertion that “Match defrauds the consumer of their time and personal investment every time a person pays Match’s subscription fee and writes to a member who won’t have the ability to read what they wrote or see their profile.” The one main thing that they seem to be pinning the case on is the fact that when you look at a profile, you cannot tell if a person is a subscriber or a free member. You also cannot tell how long its been since they’ve logged onto the site beyond three weeks. It is this practice that they want to go after Match.com for. Should they win, this would have a significant impact on every dating site that doesn’t list subscriber status or caps activity reporting on their members at three weeks or so. Norah Hart contends that, “When a subscriber cancels their subscription, their profile continues to appear to be that of an active subscriber. Nothing indicates to the viewer their limited access to read e-mails or respond to them.” The problem with this argument is that just because someone cancels their paid subscription to a site, it does not mean that they are canceling their membership. They might be paring back their involvement in the site because they are evaluating a new relationship. They may just be taking a month off the subscription because they want to save money. It also does not take into account winking, which is a free feature on Match for all members, regardless of paid status. Internet dating is like fishing. Those with paid memberships just cast out further and more frequently. Those with idle unpaid memberships are waiting for the big fish. The question is, should the dating site identify the pro fishermen from the amateurs? I think the amateur fisherman would rather keep their hooks in the water. The fish, meanwhile, would want to see when someone last logged in. That's the best indicator of activity and the potential to respond. Still, is 3 weeks long enough? How about 3 months? Anyone who hasn't been active in 3 months would be very unlikely to respond. Hart goes on to contend that her client is, “The perfect example of a man who is really attractive, extremely eligible and gainfully employed. He’s writing to people and hears nothing back from them. Is that because they’re not interested? That’s highly unlikely.” What she isn’t taking into account is that there could be numerous factors contributing to his failure on the dating site. His photo, profile, what he says in his emails, and even his dating strategy could be letting him down. As Hart is seeking a Jury trial, it will all come down to what the people decide and how strong Sean McGinn’s claims of anguish can sway them. Of course, the argument may be diluted by the fact that he did eventually find his girlfriend on match.com according to a recent report on Fox News. From: http://www.onlinepersonalswatch.com/news/2009/06/matchcom-lawsuit-update-and-thoughts.html On 6/26/09, Bob Elzer wrote: > Was it Match.com > > LOL > > > -Original Message- > From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Stephen > Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:51 AM > To: Main PLUG discussion list > Subject: Re: OT: Match.com's Message System Exposes Private "Outside" Email > Addresses > > Hey i used to be Tech support and very competent... then the incompetent > company fell apart... its still there but a disaster of a company. > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:48 AM, > kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: >>>> if actually READ by a competent person would tell the tale ... >> C'mon, you're kidding us, are you? >> "competent person" in "technical support" of "Corporate America" is >> just an overblown fairy tale... >> ;-) >> ET >> >> > > > -- > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. > > Stephen > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/li
RE: OT: Match.com's Message System Exposes Private "Outside" Email Addresses
Was it Match.com LOL -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Stephen Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:51 AM To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Re: OT: Match.com's Message System Exposes Private "Outside" Email Addresses Hey i used to be Tech support and very competent... then the incompetent company fell apart... its still there but a disaster of a company. On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:48 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: >>> if actually READ by a competent person would tell the tale ... > C'mon, you're kidding us, are you? > "competent person" in "technical support" of "Corporate America" is > just an overblown fairy tale... > ;-) > ET > > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Match.com's Message System Exposes Private "Outside" Email Addresses
I think everyone should be required to post a demotivator for each bad online job they have had. http://diy.despair.com On 6/26/09, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: > You made my point: > "competent person", "technical support" and "Corporate America" don't go > together in a meaningful sentence! ;-) > ET > > > Stephen writes: > >> Hey i used to be Tech support and very competent... then the >> incompetent company fell apart... its still there but a disaster of a >> company. >> >> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:48 AM, >> kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: > if actually READ by a competent person would tell the tale ... >>> C'mon, you're kidding us, are you? >>> "competent person" in "technical support" of "Corporate America" is just >>> an >>> overblown fairy tale... >>> ;-) >>> ET >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >> >> Stephen >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- (503)754-4452 tribe.obnosis.com scientology.obnosis.com plug.obnosis.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Match.com's Message System Exposes Private "Outside" Email Addresses
You made my point: "competent person", "technical support" and "Corporate America" don't go together in a meaningful sentence! ;-) ET Stephen writes: > Hey i used to be Tech support and very competent... then the > incompetent company fell apart... its still there but a disaster of a > company. > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:48 AM, > kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: if actually READ by a competent person would tell the tale ... >> C'mon, you're kidding us, are you? >> "competent person" in "technical support" of "Corporate America" is just an >> overblown fairy tale... >> ;-) >> ET >> >> > > > -- > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. > > Stephen > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Match.com's Message System Exposes Private "Outside" Email Addresses
Hey i used to be Tech support and very competent... then the incompetent company fell apart... its still there but a disaster of a company. On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:48 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: >>> if actually READ by a competent person would tell the tale ... > C'mon, you're kidding us, are you? > "competent person" in "technical support" of "Corporate America" is just an > overblown fairy tale... > ;-) > ET > > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Match.com's Message System Exposes Private "Outside" Email Addresses
YAY for canned responses On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > Match responds with two "support" attempts, but of course the original > screenshot graphic, if actually READ by a competent person would tell > the tale instantly. > > Description: > Entered on 06/26/2009 at 07:49:23 by Winifer C.: > Dear Member, > > Thank you for contacting Match.com regarding anonymous emailing. > > Match.com preserves your privacy by directing your emails through our > double-blind system. Our exclusive technology strips your real email > address and replaces it with your username and the talkmatch domain > (usern...@talkmatch.com). Then the system forwards your messages to > the members you're emailing. > > One way to contact members is by clicking the Email Him/Her link in > their profiles. > > You can also send email messages from your personal registered email > account to members with whom you have previously corresponded through > the Match.com site. Once logged into your personal email account > (i.e., hotmail, yahoo, etc.), please follow these steps: > > 1. Compose a new message > 2. In the "To" field, type the member's username and add > @talkmatch.com (i.e., jane...@talkmatch.com) > 3. Send the message > > Before sending the email, please review the following tips protect your > privacy: > * Remove any mention of your email address from the body of your message. > * Remove any automatic signature at the end of your email. > * Do not use Cc: or Bcc: > * Note that our double-blind email system strips away your personal > email address and it will NOT appear in the “From” line. > > For immediate answers to most common questions, please visit our help > section at: http://www.match.com/matchus/help/helpdtl.aspx?sec=42&lid=108. > > For any further assistance please do not hesitate to contact us. We > wish you the best of luck in finding your match! > > Match.com Customer Care > Winifer C. > > > Screenshot: > http://www.obnosis.com/motivatebytruth/match_shows_outside_email.jpg > > > http://www.match.com/matchus/help/contactus.aspx?ct=1&lid=7 > > How are we doing? Please take a minute to complete the following > survey on our email response and your match.com experience. Please > double click on the link below to launch the survey. > https://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=WB6Y1ZQWNPONI_2bVTPC3Jvw_3d_3d > > Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original > > > > On 6/25/09, Stephen wrote: >> yet another strike against match.com in my book. >> >> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Lisa Kachold >> wrote: >>> >>> Match.com, the popular paid online "secure" dating site, was found to >>> reveal private email addresses during messaging. >>> >>> Email Reply headers in the Messages reading pane reveal the "outside" >>> email of the dating parties to each other. So my reading pane shows >>> clearly at the top of an email Match.com "Message" thread: >>> >>> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:18:23 -0500 >>> From: obno...@talkmatch.com >>> To: paira...@hotmail.com >>> Subject: Match.com Message: RE: Itsadate >>> >>> >>> So, I "obno...@talkmatch" (obfuscated email Match.com only email >>> address) would immediately know that a man identified only by his >>> Match.com screen name, was really "paira...@hotmail.com". And >>> alternately he would also be able to see my outside email address in >>> his Messages reading pane. >>> >>> While at the same time, the bottom of the email Match.com "Message" >>> thread their application tacks on a nice DISCLAIMER: >>> >>> --start-- >>> Important tips: Protect your privacy >>> >>> Our email system strips away your real email address so that the >>> recipient will NOT see it in the >>> From: line; however, you must... >>> • Remove any mention of your email address from the body of your >>> message. >>> • Remove or turn off any automatic signature at the end of your email. >>> • Avoid using Cc: or Bcc: to help protect your identity. >>> If you receive an email that you find offensive or contains >>> advertisements for products or services other than Match.com, please >>> forward the message immediately to ab...@cc.match.com. >>> If you no longer wish to receive communication from this person you >>> can block this user from further contact here. >>> >>> >>> DISCLAIMER >>> Match.com does not screen private email between members, nor are we >>> liable for the content of these messages. All members are bound by the >>> Match.com Service Agreement. >>> >>> ---end >>> >>> >>> Match.com was informed on June 25, 2009 with screenshots. They have >>> yet to respond to this serious security application layer issue. >>> >>> Screenshot: >>> http://www.obnosis.com/motivatebytruth/match_shows_outside_email.jpg >>> -- >>> (503)754-4452 tribe.obnosis.com >>> scientology.obnosis.com >>> plug.obnosis.com >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, o
Re: OT: Match.com's Message System Exposes Private "Outside" Email Addresses
I'd take a minute and tell them how their doing on their survey. Eric On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > Match responds with two "support" attempts, but of course the original > screenshot graphic, if actually READ by a competent person would tell > the tale instantly. > > Description: > Entered on 06/26/2009 at 07:49:23 by Winifer C.: > Dear Member, > > Thank you for contacting Match.com regarding anonymous emailing. > > Match.com preserves your privacy by directing your emails through our > double-blind system. Our exclusive technology strips your real email > address and replaces it with your username and the talkmatch domain > (usern...@talkmatch.com). Then the system forwards your messages to > the members you're emailing. > > One way to contact members is by clicking the Email Him/Her link in > their profiles. > > You can also send email messages from your personal registered email > account to members with whom you have previously corresponded through > the Match.com site. Once logged into your personal email account > (i.e., hotmail, yahoo, etc.), please follow these steps: > > 1. Compose a new message > 2. In the "To" field, type the member's username and add > @talkmatch.com (i.e., jane...@talkmatch.com) > 3. Send the message > > Before sending the email, please review the following tips protect your > privacy: > * Remove any mention of your email address from the body of your message. > * Remove any automatic signature at the end of your email. > * Do not use Cc: or Bcc: > * Note that our double-blind email system strips away your personal > email address and it will NOT appear in the “From” line. > > For immediate answers to most common questions, please visit our help > section at: http://www.match.com/matchus/help/helpdtl.aspx?sec=42&lid=108. > > For any further assistance please do not hesitate to contact us. We > wish you the best of luck in finding your match! > > Match.com Customer Care > Winifer C. > > > Screenshot: > http://www.obnosis.com/motivatebytruth/match_shows_outside_email.jpg > > > http://www.match.com/matchus/help/contactus.aspx?ct=1&lid=7 > > How are we doing? Please take a minute to complete the following > survey on our email response and your match.com experience. Please > double click on the link below to launch the survey. > https://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=WB6Y1ZQWNPONI_2bVTPC3Jvw_3d_3d > > Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original > > > > On 6/25/09, Stephen wrote: > > yet another strike against match.com in my book. > > > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Lisa Kachold > > wrote: > >> > >> Match.com, the popular paid online "secure" dating site, was found to > >> reveal private email addresses during messaging. > >> > >> Email Reply headers in the Messages reading pane reveal the "outside" > >> email of the dating parties to each other. So my reading pane shows > >> clearly at the top of an email Match.com "Message" thread: > >> > >> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:18:23 -0500 > >> From: obno...@talkmatch.com > >> To: paira...@hotmail.com > >> Subject: Match.com Message: RE: Itsadate > >> > >> > >> So, I "obno...@talkmatch" (obfuscated email Match.com only email > >> address) would immediately know that a man identified only by his > >> Match.com screen name, was really "paira...@hotmail.com". And > >> alternately he would also be able to see my outside email address in > >> his Messages reading pane. > >> > >> While at the same time, the bottom of the email Match.com "Message" > >> thread their application tacks on a nice DISCLAIMER: > >> > >> --start-- > >> Important tips: Protect your privacy > >> > >> Our email system strips away your real email address so that the > >> recipient will NOT see it in the > >> From: line; however, you must... > >>• Remove any mention of your email address from the body of your > >> message. > >> • Remove or turn off any automatic signature at the end of your email. > >> • Avoid using Cc: or Bcc: to help protect your identity. > >> If you receive an email that you find offensive or contains > >> advertisements for products or services other than Match.com, please > >> forward the message immediately to ab...@cc.match.com. > >> If you no longer wish to receive communication from this person you > >> can block this user from further contact here. > >> > >> > >> DISCLAIMER > >> Match.com does not screen private email between members, nor are we > >> liable for the content of these messages. All members are bound by the > >> Match.com Service Agreement. > >> > >> ---end > >> > >> > >> Match.com was informed on June 25, 2009 with screenshots. They have > >> yet to respond to this serious security application layer issue. > >> > >> Screenshot: > >> http://www.obnosis.com/motivatebytruth/match_shows_outside_email.jpg > >> -- > >> (503)754-4452 tribe.obnosis.com > >> scientology.obnosis.com > >> plug.obnosis.com > >>
Re: OT: Match.com's Message System Exposes Private "Outside" Email Addresses
>> if actually READ by a competent person would tell the tale ... C'mon, you're kidding us, are you? "competent person" in "technical support" of "Corporate America" is just an overblown fairy tale... ;-) ET Lisa Kachold writes: > Match responds with two "support" attempts, but of course the original > screenshot graphic, if actually READ by a competent person would tell > the tale instantly. > > Description: > Entered on 06/26/2009 at 07:49:23 by Winifer C.: > Dear Member, > > Thank you for contacting Match.com regarding anonymous emailing. > > Match.com preserves your privacy by directing your emails through our > double-blind system. Our exclusive technology strips your real email > address and replaces it with your username and the talkmatch domain > (usern...@talkmatch.com). Then the system forwards your messages to > the members you're emailing. > > One way to contact members is by clicking the Email Him/Her link in > their profiles. > > You can also send email messages from your personal registered email > account to members with whom you have previously corresponded through > the Match.com site. Once logged into your personal email account > (i.e., hotmail, yahoo, etc.), please follow these steps: > > 1. Compose a new message > 2. In the "To" field, type the member's username and add > @talkmatch.com (i.e., jane...@talkmatch.com) > 3. Send the message > > Before sending the email, please review the following tips protect your > privacy: > * Remove any mention of your email address from the body of your message. > * Remove any automatic signature at the end of your email. > * Do not use Cc: or Bcc: > * Note that our double-blind email system strips away your personal > email address and it will NOT appear in the “From” line. > > For immediate answers to most common questions, please visit our help > section at: http://www.match.com/matchus/help/helpdtl.aspx?sec=42&lid=108. > > For any further assistance please do not hesitate to contact us. We > wish you the best of luck in finding your match! > > Match.com Customer Care > Winifer C. > > > Screenshot: > http://www.obnosis.com/motivatebytruth/match_shows_outside_email.jpg > > > http://www.match.com/matchus/help/contactus.aspx?ct=1&lid=7 > > How are we doing? Please take a minute to complete the following > survey on our email response and your match.com experience. Please > double click on the link below to launch the survey. > https://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=WB6Y1ZQWNPONI_2bVTPC3Jvw_3d_3d > > Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original > > > > On 6/25/09, Stephen wrote: >> yet another strike against match.com in my book. >> >> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Lisa Kachold >> wrote: >>> >>> Match.com, the popular paid online "secure" dating site, was found to >>> reveal private email addresses during messaging. >>> >>> Email Reply headers in the Messages reading pane reveal the "outside" >>> email of the dating parties to each other. So my reading pane shows >>> clearly at the top of an email Match.com "Message" thread: >>> >>> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:18:23 -0500 >>> From: obno...@talkmatch.com >>> To: paira...@hotmail.com >>> Subject: Match.com Message: RE: Itsadate >>> >>> >>> So, I "obno...@talkmatch" (obfuscated email Match.com only email >>> address) would immediately know that a man identified only by his >>> Match.com screen name, was really "paira...@hotmail.com". And >>> alternately he would also be able to see my outside email address in >>> his Messages reading pane. >>> >>> While at the same time, the bottom of the email Match.com "Message" >>> thread their application tacks on a nice DISCLAIMER: >>> >>> --start-- >>> Important tips: Protect your privacy >>> >>> Our email system strips away your real email address so that the >>> recipient will NOT see it in the >>> From: line; however, you must... >>> • Remove any mention of your email address from the body of your >>> message. >>> • Remove or turn off any automatic signature at the end of your email. >>> • Avoid using Cc: or Bcc: to help protect your identity. >>> If you receive an email that you find offensive or contains >>> advertisements for products or services other than Match.com, please >>> forward the message immediately to ab...@cc.match.com. >>> If you no longer wish to receive communication from this person you >>> can block this user from further contact here. >>> >>> >>> DISCLAIMER >>> Match.com does not screen private email between members, nor are we >>> liable for the content of these messages. All members are bound by the >>> Match.com Service Agreement. >>> >>> ---end >>> >>> >>> Match.com was informed on June 25, 2009 with screenshots. They have >>> yet to respond to this serious security application layer issue. >>> >>> Screenshot: >>> http://www.obnosis.com/motivatebytruth/match_shows_outside_email.jpg >>> -- >>> (503)754-4452 tribe.obnosis.com >>> scie
Re: OT: Match.com's Message System Exposes Private "Outside" Email Addresses
Match responds with two "support" attempts, but of course the original screenshot graphic, if actually READ by a competent person would tell the tale instantly. Description: Entered on 06/26/2009 at 07:49:23 by Winifer C.: Dear Member, Thank you for contacting Match.com regarding anonymous emailing. Match.com preserves your privacy by directing your emails through our double-blind system. Our exclusive technology strips your real email address and replaces it with your username and the talkmatch domain (usern...@talkmatch.com). Then the system forwards your messages to the members you're emailing. One way to contact members is by clicking the Email Him/Her link in their profiles. You can also send email messages from your personal registered email account to members with whom you have previously corresponded through the Match.com site. Once logged into your personal email account (i.e., hotmail, yahoo, etc.), please follow these steps: 1. Compose a new message 2. In the "To" field, type the member's username and add @talkmatch.com (i.e., jane...@talkmatch.com) 3. Send the message Before sending the email, please review the following tips protect your privacy: * Remove any mention of your email address from the body of your message. * Remove any automatic signature at the end of your email. * Do not use Cc: or Bcc: * Note that our double-blind email system strips away your personal email address and it will NOT appear in the “From” line. For immediate answers to most common questions, please visit our help section at: http://www.match.com/matchus/help/helpdtl.aspx?sec=42&lid=108. For any further assistance please do not hesitate to contact us. We wish you the best of luck in finding your match! Match.com Customer Care Winifer C. Screenshot: http://www.obnosis.com/motivatebytruth/match_shows_outside_email.jpg http://www.match.com/matchus/help/contactus.aspx?ct=1&lid=7 How are we doing? Please take a minute to complete the following survey on our email response and your match.com experience. Please double click on the link below to launch the survey. https://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=WB6Y1ZQWNPONI_2bVTPC3Jvw_3d_3d Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original On 6/25/09, Stephen wrote: > yet another strike against match.com in my book. > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Lisa Kachold > wrote: >> >> Match.com, the popular paid online "secure" dating site, was found to >> reveal private email addresses during messaging. >> >> Email Reply headers in the Messages reading pane reveal the "outside" >> email of the dating parties to each other. So my reading pane shows >> clearly at the top of an email Match.com "Message" thread: >> >> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:18:23 -0500 >> From: obno...@talkmatch.com >> To: paira...@hotmail.com >> Subject: Match.com Message: RE: Itsadate >> >> >> So, I "obno...@talkmatch" (obfuscated email Match.com only email >> address) would immediately know that a man identified only by his >> Match.com screen name, was really "paira...@hotmail.com". And >> alternately he would also be able to see my outside email address in >> his Messages reading pane. >> >> While at the same time, the bottom of the email Match.com "Message" >> thread their application tacks on a nice DISCLAIMER: >> >> --start-- >> Important tips: Protect your privacy >> >> Our email system strips away your real email address so that the >> recipient will NOT see it in the >> From: line; however, you must... >> • Remove any mention of your email address from the body of your >> message. >> • Remove or turn off any automatic signature at the end of your email. >> • Avoid using Cc: or Bcc: to help protect your identity. >> If you receive an email that you find offensive or contains >> advertisements for products or services other than Match.com, please >> forward the message immediately to ab...@cc.match.com. >> If you no longer wish to receive communication from this person you >> can block this user from further contact here. >> >> >> DISCLAIMER >> Match.com does not screen private email between members, nor are we >> liable for the content of these messages. All members are bound by the >> Match.com Service Agreement. >> >> ---end >> >> >> Match.com was informed on June 25, 2009 with screenshots. They have >> yet to respond to this serious security application layer issue. >> >> Screenshot: >> http://www.obnosis.com/motivatebytruth/match_shows_outside_email.jpg >> -- >> (503)754-4452 tribe.obnosis.com >> scientology.obnosis.com >> plug.obnosis.com >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > > -- > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze butt
Re: OT: Match.com's Message System Exposes Private "Outside" Email Addresses - SlashDot Submission
http://slashdot.org/~obnosis/ On 6/25/09, Lisa Kachold wrote: > > Match.com, the popular paid online "secure" dating site, was found to > reveal private email addresses during messaging. > > Email Reply headers in the Messages reading pane reveal the "outside" > email of the dating parties to each other. So my reading pane shows > clearly at the top of an email Match.com "Message" thread: > > Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:18:23 -0500 > From: obno...@talkmatch.com > To: paira...@hotmail.com > Subject: Match.com Message: RE: Itsadate > > > So, I "obno...@talkmatch" (obfuscated email Match.com only email > address) would immediately know that a man identified only by his > Match.com screen name, was really "paira...@hotmail.com". And > alternately he would also be able to see my outside email address in > his Messages reading pane. > > While at the same time, the bottom of the email Match.com "Message" > thread their application tacks on a nice DISCLAIMER: > > --start-- > Important tips: Protect your privacy > > Our email system strips away your real email address so that the > recipient will NOT see it in the > From: line; however, you must... > • Remove any mention of your email address from the body of your > message. > • Remove or turn off any automatic signature at the end of your email. > • Avoid using Cc: or Bcc: to help protect your identity. > If you receive an email that you find offensive or contains > advertisements for products or services other than Match.com, please > forward the message immediately to ab...@cc.match.com. > If you no longer wish to receive communication from this person you > can block this user from further contact here. > > > DISCLAIMER > Match.com does not screen private email between members, nor are we > liable for the content of these messages. All members are bound by the > Match.com Service Agreement. > > ---end > > > Match.com was informed on June 25, 2009 with screenshots. They have > yet to respond to this serious security application layer issue. > > Screenshot: > http://www.obnosis.com/motivatebytruth/match_shows_outside_email.jpg > -- > (503)754-4452 tribe.obnosis.com > scientology.obnosis.com > plug.obnosis.com > -- (503)754-4452 tribe.obnosis.com scientology.obnosis.com plug.obnosis.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Match.com's Message System Exposes Private "Outside" Email Addresses
yet another strike against match.com in my book. On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > > Match.com, the popular paid online "secure" dating site, was found to > reveal private email addresses during messaging. > > Email Reply headers in the Messages reading pane reveal the "outside" > email of the dating parties to each other. So my reading pane shows > clearly at the top of an email Match.com "Message" thread: > > Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:18:23 -0500 > From: obno...@talkmatch.com > To: paira...@hotmail.com > Subject: Match.com Message: RE: Itsadate > > > So, I "obno...@talkmatch" (obfuscated email Match.com only email > address) would immediately know that a man identified only by his > Match.com screen name, was really "paira...@hotmail.com". And > alternately he would also be able to see my outside email address in > his Messages reading pane. > > While at the same time, the bottom of the email Match.com "Message" > thread their application tacks on a nice DISCLAIMER: > > --start-- > Important tips: Protect your privacy > > Our email system strips away your real email address so that the > recipient will NOT see it in the > From: line; however, you must... > • Remove any mention of your email address from the body of your > message. > • Remove or turn off any automatic signature at the end of your email. > • Avoid using Cc: or Bcc: to help protect your identity. > If you receive an email that you find offensive or contains > advertisements for products or services other than Match.com, please > forward the message immediately to ab...@cc.match.com. > If you no longer wish to receive communication from this person you > can block this user from further contact here. > > > DISCLAIMER > Match.com does not screen private email between members, nor are we > liable for the content of these messages. All members are bound by the > Match.com Service Agreement. > > ---end > > > Match.com was informed on June 25, 2009 with screenshots. They have > yet to respond to this serious security application layer issue. > > Screenshot: > http://www.obnosis.com/motivatebytruth/match_shows_outside_email.jpg > -- > (503)754-4452 tribe.obnosis.com > scientology.obnosis.com > plug.obnosis.com > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
