Re: Upgraded from Debian Lenny to Squeeze, and my machine won't boot
Well, I guessed correctly again..I ran aptitude install linux-image-2.6-686, it installed 2.6.32, and X came up just like before. Now to get the system upgraded to testing.any suggestions/recommendations beyond DON'T DO IT!...;-) Mark On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Mark Phillips wrote: > OK, progress has been made > > 1. fsck said both internal drives were OK, but i forced it to run anyway. > No errors > 2. re-ran grub-install for the 5th time (?) and still no changereboot > goes right back to grub. > 3. discovered that I could boot into 2.6.26 if I used the initrd-2.6.26.bak > file. So did that. The files have different sizes and dates... > 4. I looked at men.lst and found that it was trying to chainload into Grub > 2. I couldn't get it to run from the grub menu, but then I booted into > 2.6.26 and ran upgrade-from-grub-legacy. Hypothesis: the dist-upgrade was > trying to move to grub 2 and so I had a 1/2 grub 1.98 and 1/2 grub 2 > install.The grub 2 upgrade worked, and now I get my typical grub menu > and I can select which linux version to boot into. > 5. Booting 2.6.26 causes a kernel panic, but I suspect that is caused by > the bad initrd-2.6.26 file. I seached Debian to find that file, but I could > not. What package do I need to re-install to re-create the initrd-2.6.26? Or > the latest kernel for squeeze is OK, too. > 6. Fixed mysql problem. It seems during the dist-upgrade, mysql-server 5.0 > was removed, but not the client. So I reinstalled mysql for squeeze, and > aptitude removed the 5.0 client and installed the 5.1 server/client/common > and now it works just fine. All dbs and tables are intact. > 7. Fixed some of the X problems - there were some font dirs missing, so > mkfontdir removed those errors. But still no X yet. The error from gdm is: > error inserting i915 > (/lib/modules/2.6.21-2-686/kernel/drivers/char/drm/i915.ko) unknown symbols > in module or unknown parameter. > > I suspect that my X problem may go away if I reinstall kernel to 2.6.26, or > later. I think something happened in the dsit-upgrade. So, how do I > reinstall the kernel, or upgrade to a newer one? > > Thanks! > > Mark > > > On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Kevin Fries wrote: > >> On 03/29/2011 09:54 AM, Mark Phillips wrote: >> >> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Kevin Fries wrote: >> >>> On 03/28/2011 06:01 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: >>> >> >> >>> It does say that this disk has probably been around for a while, and is >>> likely the older drive that would use hda instead of sda. But at the end of >>> the day, its just a label that does not mean anything. >>> >> >> Knoppix called the drives sda. My original menu.lst called the drives hda. >> It is an older system, so I am sticking with hda for now. >> >> >> Yea, that is part of the confusion. Just FYI. Historically, HDA was IDE >> based systems. SDA was SCSI based systems. However, in modern days, these >> lines have been blurred, badly. Anything plugged into the USB bus is run >> through the SCSI sub-systems, and therefore get labeled as SCSI. Ditto that >> for compact flash or SD cards. Some distros, like Knoppix, for >> simplification, run everything through the SCSI subsystem. Therefore, >> Knoppix will generally call EVERYTHING sda. Knoppix is not unique, but not >> the norm either. But most importantly, you can not rely how one version of >> linux labels the drives, as to how another version of linux will. >> >> Kevin >> >> > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Upgraded from Debian Lenny to Squeeze, and my machine won't boot
OK, progress has been made 1. fsck said both internal drives were OK, but i forced it to run anyway. No errors 2. re-ran grub-install for the 5th time (?) and still no changereboot goes right back to grub. 3. discovered that I could boot into 2.6.26 if I used the initrd-2.6.26.bak file. So did that. The files have different sizes and dates... 4. I looked at men.lst and found that it was trying to chainload into Grub 2. I couldn't get it to run from the grub menu, but then I booted into 2.6.26 and ran upgrade-from-grub-legacy. Hypothesis: the dist-upgrade was trying to move to grub 2 and so I had a 1/2 grub 1.98 and 1/2 grub 2 install.The grub 2 upgrade worked, and now I get my typical grub menu and I can select which linux version to boot into. 5. Booting 2.6.26 causes a kernel panic, but I suspect that is caused by the bad initrd-2.6.26 file. I seached Debian to find that file, but I could not. What package do I need to re-install to re-create the initrd-2.6.26? Or the latest kernel for squeeze is OK, too. 6. Fixed mysql problem. It seems during the dist-upgrade, mysql-server 5.0 was removed, but not the client. So I reinstalled mysql for squeeze, and aptitude removed the 5.0 client and installed the 5.1 server/client/common and now it works just fine. All dbs and tables are intact. 7. Fixed some of the X problems - there were some font dirs missing, so mkfontdir removed those errors. But still no X yet. The error from gdm is: error inserting i915 (/lib/modules/2.6.21-2-686/kernel/drivers/char/drm/i915.ko) unknown symbols in module or unknown parameter. I suspect that my X problem may go away if I reinstall kernel to 2.6.26, or later. I think something happened in the dsit-upgrade. So, how do I reinstall the kernel, or upgrade to a newer one? Thanks! Mark On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Kevin Fries wrote: > On 03/29/2011 09:54 AM, Mark Phillips wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Kevin Fries wrote: > >> On 03/28/2011 06:01 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: >> > > >> It does say that this disk has probably been around for a while, and is >> likely the older drive that would use hda instead of sda. But at the end of >> the day, its just a label that does not mean anything. >> > > Knoppix called the drives sda. My original menu.lst called the drives hda. > It is an older system, so I am sticking with hda for now. > > > Yea, that is part of the confusion. Just FYI. Historically, HDA was IDE > based systems. SDA was SCSI based systems. However, in modern days, these > lines have been blurred, badly. Anything plugged into the USB bus is run > through the SCSI sub-systems, and therefore get labeled as SCSI. Ditto that > for compact flash or SD cards. Some distros, like Knoppix, for > simplification, run everything through the SCSI subsystem. Therefore, > Knoppix will generally call EVERYTHING sda. Knoppix is not unique, but not > the norm either. But most importantly, you can not rely how one version of > linux labels the drives, as to how another version of linux will. > > Kevin > > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Upgraded from Debian Lenny to Squeeze, and my machine won't boot
>>> 2.2.26: cant read the initrd file
>>> 2.2.22: waiting for root file system
>>> The wait timed out, and got this error: /dev/sda5 does not exist.
This is what I'd expect to see if the kernel didn't contain support for the
SATA or SCSI chipset for the controller where the first disk lives. This
would also happen if you're using an initrd and the initrd doesn't contain the
right module for the chipset.
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Mark Phillips wrote:
>> I have made some progress When I use these parameters at the grub
>> prompt, the machine boots. X is dead, and so is mysql...not sure why
The X config that was valid for the previous version is probably invalid for
the new version. mysql probably got bumped up a minor version too, so the
config file syntax changed.
>> However, I cannot change menu.lst to reboot.
This isn't surprising if it can't find the root filesystem because there's no
support for the chipset.
>> grub> root(hd0,msdos5) //msdos5 is the only option
>> grub> linux /boot/linux-2.6.21.1-686 root=/dev/hda5
>> grub> initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.21.1-686
hda is an IDE disk. Is your disk IDE or SATA? That's an old kernel, but SATA
support was totally in there then. Also, the newest kernels treat
*everything* as SCSI, even if it's IDE, unless you enable a bunch of
deprecated stuff.
From: Dazed_75
> Maybe boot up a live CD and verify the partitioning is what you
> thought you had and the contents are as you expect?
Partition tables don't generally change unless you explicitly make those
changes yourself.
> you refer to hda5 and in another you say the message you got
> referred to sda5.
Whether an {IDE, SATA} disk is referred to as hd* or sd* is dependent on
kernel age and the options that are enabled. It's kind of a mess, but that's
how history played out.
This sort of thing is why I like to upgrade systems in small pieces instead of
in one gigantic chunk. If you upgrade A, then B, then C, and stuff breaks
after C, you can narrow the problem down a lot. If you upgrade ABC, and stuff
breaks, you have a lot more to look at, and it takes longer to fix. I also
always have a custom kernel with everything needed to mount / built in (not as
an initrd), but I do that mostly for historical reasons and because I can.
There's no reason to shy away from putting the things you need to mount / in
an initrd... except for threads like this, which show up a few times a
year
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Re: Upgraded from Debian Lenny to Squeeze, and my machine won't boot
Maybe boot up a live CD and verify the partitioning is what you thought you had and the contents are as you expect? Also, I note that in one part of the message you refer to hda5 and in another you say the message you got referred to sda5. On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: > I have made some progress When I use these parameters at the grub > prompt, the machine boots. X is dead, and so is mysql...not sure why, yet. > However, I cannot change menu.lst to rebootI always get tossed out to > the grub menu. > > grub> root(hd0,msdos5) //msdos5 comes from tab completion and is the > only option > grub> linux /boot/linux-2.6.21.1-686 root=/dev/hda5 > grub> initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.21.1-686 > grub>boot > > Any thoughts or suggestions? > > Thanks, > > Mark > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Mark Phillips > wrote: > >> Now I have grub 1.98 installed, but no change. Still go straight to the >> grub prompt, and when I try the aforementioned grub commands I get these >> results: >> >> 2.2.26: cant read the initrd file >> 2.2.22: waiting for root file system >> >> The wait timed out, and got this error: /dev/sda5 does not exist. >> >> Any thoughts? >> >> Mark >> On Mar 28, 2011 2:34 PM, "Kevin Fries" wrote: >> > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it always to be kept alive. - Thomas Jefferson --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Upgraded from Debian Lenny to Squeeze, and my machine won't boot
I have made some progress When I use these parameters at the grub prompt, the machine boots. X is dead, and so is mysql...not sure why, yet. However, I cannot change menu.lst to rebootI always get tossed out to the grub menu. grub> root(hd0,msdos5) //msdos5 comes from tab completion and is the only option grub> linux /boot/linux-2.6.21.1-686 root=/dev/hda5 grub> initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.21.1-686 grub>boot Any thoughts or suggestions? Thanks, Mark On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: > Now I have grub 1.98 installed, but no change. Still go straight to the > grub prompt, and when I try the aforementioned grub commands I get these > results: > > 2.2.26: cant read the initrd file > 2.2.22: waiting for root file system > > The wait timed out, and got this error: /dev/sda5 does not exist. > > Any thoughts? > > Mark > On Mar 28, 2011 2:34 PM, "Kevin Fries" wrote: > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Upgraded from Debian Lenny to Squeeze, and my machine won't boot
I have made some progress When I use these parameters at the grub prompt, the machine boots. X is dead, and so is mysql...not sure why, yet. However, I cannot change menu.lst to rebootI always get tossed out to the grub menu. grub> root(hd0,msdos5) //msdos5 comes from tab completion and is the only option grub> linux /boot/linux-2.6.21.1-686 root=/dev/hda5 grub> initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.21.1-686 grub>boot Any thoughts or suggestions? Thanks, Mark On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: > Now I have grub 1.98 installed, but no change. Still go straight to the > grub prompt, and when I try the aforementioned grub commands I get these > results: > > 2.2.26: cant read the initrd file > 2.2.22: waiting for root file system > > The wait timed out, and got this error: /dev/sda5 does not exist. > > Any thoughts? > > Mark > On Mar 28, 2011 2:34 PM, "Kevin Fries" wrote: > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Upgraded from Debian Lenny to Squeeze, and my machine won't boot
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Kevin Fries wrote: > Have you tried rebooting from a live CD, chroot-ing into the existing drive > and re-doing a grub-install? > How would I do that? Mark > > Kevin > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Upgraded from Debian Lenny to Squeeze, and my machine won't boot
Have you tried rebooting from a live CD, chroot-ing into the existing drive and re-doing a grub-install? Kevin --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Upgraded from Debian Lenny to Squeeze, and my machine won't boot
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 12:48 PM, gm5729 wrote: > >> >>- Original Message - >> *From: *Mark Phillips >> >> *To: *Main PLUG discussion list >> >> *Cc: *gm5729 >> *Sent: *Monday, March 28, 2011 2:36 PM >> *Subject: *Re: Upgraded from Debian Lenny to Squeeze, and my machine >> won't boot >> A few more observations >> >> I tried using grub to attempt to boot. I set up the following based on (1) >> what I saw using the knoppix disk that the internal drives were mounted on >> /media/sda5 and /media/sdb1./media/sda5 has the normal linux file system >> and sdb1 has my backup folders, and (2) grub's tab completion. >> >> grub> root (hd0,4) >> grub> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.21-1-686 root =/dev/sda5 >> grub> initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.26-1-686 >> grub> boot >> >> I get as far as: >> Kernel panic: not syncing: VFS unable to mount rootfs on unknown >> block(0,0) >> >> If I back down to 2.6.21. or 2.6.18 I get this error: >> Begin: mounting root file system... >> Begin: running /scripts/local_top...done >> Begin: waiting for root file system... >> >> So, I guess my original hypothesis is wrong...the SI drive controller may >> be workingexcept for a small annoying kernel panic or inability to load >> the file system >> >> Does this help anyone figure out what I should do? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Mark >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 12:30 PM, gm5729 wrote: >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: gm5729 >> To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 1:59 PM >> Subject: Re: PLUG-discuss Digest, Vol 69, Issue 28 >> >> 6. Upgraded from Debian Lenny to Squeeze, and my machine won't >> boot (Mark Phillips) >> >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:35:14 -0700 >> From: Mark Phillips >> To: Phoenix Linux Users >> Subject: Upgraded from Debian Lenny to Squeeze, and my machine won't >>boot >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> I have an older Dell Optiplex GX260 running Debian lenny. It has worked >> for >> years as a desktop and a small web server. At one point one of the >> integrated IDE disk controller channels died, so I installed a new disk >> controller card, a Silicon Image 0680 ATA133 and it worked out of the box >> with the two drives for the past 3 months. Last weekend I tried a >> dist-upgrade to squeeze. The upgrade had no errors, so I rebooted the >> machine, and now all I get is a grub menu. >> >> When the machine boots, the Silicon Magic displays it's banner and >> recognizes the two drives installed in the machine (same as before the >> upgrade). I then get the message loading grub 1.5, and I then get dumped >> to >> a grub menu. It seems the boot process does not access the Silicon Image >> controller, although it did before I upgraded to squeeze. I tried >> accessing >> the drive from the grub prompt, but the disk access light does not seem to >> light up - only the cd light. >> >> I tried booting from a Knoppix 4.6.6 CD, and it worked. I am able to >> browse >> the internal hard drives with no problem and read files. So, at least >> Knoppix can use the controller card and the hardware is not dead. I >> noticed >> on the upgrade from lenny to squeeze I went from kernel 2.6.21 to 2.6.26. >> >> Any suggestions on how to get the machine to boot again? >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> Most likely you are going to have to check your hardware compatiblity >> lists. Yes, but why? Debian now has a TOTAL Libre Kernel. Any hardware that >> doesn't comply with FOSS standards has been yanked out. >> >> gk >> >> --- >> Secure Reply (option enabled): >> >> http://www.CryptoHeaven.com/ch/web-mail.jsp?uId=3537572&subject=Re%3A+Upgraded+from+Debian+Lenny+to+Squeeze%2C+and+my+machine+won%27t+boot >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>grub> initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.26-1-686 Why is your kernel line a >> 2.6.21 and your ram disk 2.6.26? >> > > Because I mistyped itMy email is on a m
Re: Upgraded from Debian Lenny to Squeeze, and my machine won't boot
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 12:48 PM, gm5729 wrote: > >- Original Message - > *From: *Mark Phillips > *To: *Main PLUG discussion list > > *Cc: *gm5729 > *Sent: *Monday, March 28, 2011 2:36 PM > *Subject: *Re: Upgraded from Debian Lenny to Squeeze, and my machine won't > boot > A few more observations > > I tried using grub to attempt to boot. I set up the following based on (1) > what I saw using the knoppix disk that the internal drives were mounted on > /media/sda5 and /media/sdb1./media/sda5 has the normal linux file system > and sdb1 has my backup folders, and (2) grub's tab completion. > > grub> root (hd0,4) > grub> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.21-1-686 root =/dev/sda5 > grub> initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.26-1-686 > grub> boot > > I get as far as: > Kernel panic: not syncing: VFS unable to mount rootfs on unknown block(0,0) > > > If I back down to 2.6.21. or 2.6.18 I get this error: > Begin: mounting root file system... > Begin: running /scripts/local_top...done > Begin: waiting for root file system... > > So, I guess my original hypothesis is wrong...the SI drive controller may > be workingexcept for a small annoying kernel panic or inability to load > the file system > > Does this help anyone figure out what I should do? > > Thanks, > > Mark > > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 12:30 PM, gm5729 wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: gm5729 > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 1:59 PM > Subject: Re: PLUG-discuss Digest, Vol 69, Issue 28 > > 6. Upgraded from Debian Lenny to Squeeze, and my machine won't > boot (Mark Phillips) > > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:35:14 -0700 > From: Mark Phillips > To: Phoenix Linux Users > Subject: Upgraded from Debian Lenny to Squeeze, and my machine won't >boot > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I have an older Dell Optiplex GX260 running Debian lenny. It has worked for > years as a desktop and a small web server. At one point one of the > integrated IDE disk controller channels died, so I installed a new disk > controller card, a Silicon Image 0680 ATA133 and it worked out of the box > with the two drives for the past 3 months. Last weekend I tried a > dist-upgrade to squeeze. The upgrade had no errors, so I rebooted the > machine, and now all I get is a grub menu. > > When the machine boots, the Silicon Magic displays it's banner and > recognizes the two drives installed in the machine (same as before the > upgrade). I then get the message loading grub 1.5, and I then get dumped to > a grub menu. It seems the boot process does not access the Silicon Image > controller, although it did before I upgraded to squeeze. I tried accessing > the drive from the grub prompt, but the disk access light does not seem to > light up - only the cd light. > > I tried booting from a Knoppix 4.6.6 CD, and it worked. I am able to browse > the internal hard drives with no problem and read files. So, at least > Knoppix can use the controller card and the hardware is not dead. I noticed > on the upgrade from lenny to squeeze I went from kernel 2.6.21 to 2.6.26. > > Any suggestions on how to get the machine to boot again? > > Thanks, > > > Most likely you are going to have to check your hardware compatiblity > lists. Yes, but why? Debian now has a TOTAL Libre Kernel. Any hardware that > doesn't comply with FOSS standards has been yanked out. > > gk > > --- > Secure Reply (option enabled): > > http://www.CryptoHeaven.com/ch/web-mail.jsp?uId=3537572&subject=Re%3A+Upgraded+from+Debian+Lenny+to+Squeeze%2C+and+my+machine+won%27t+boot > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >grub> initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.26-1-686 Why is your kernel line a 2.6.21 > and your ram disk 2.6.26? > Because I mistyped itMy email is on a machine in one room, and the dead machine is in another.. The machine says it is using grub 1.5 How do I find, using grub, the right parameters for the kernel command? Mark > That's not right. Your original install should be using Grub1; however I do > not know what Knoppix would currently be using. If it is Grub2 the whole > layout and config files, not to mention the extra 1MB larger the MBR has to > be is different. gk > > > --- > Secure Reply (option enabled): > http://www.CryptoHeaven.com/ch/web-mail.jsp?uId=3537572<http://www.CryptoHeaven.com/ch/web-mail.jsp?uId=3537572&subject=Re%3A+Re%3A+Upgraded+from+Debian+Lenny+to+Squeeze%2C+and+my+machine+won%27t+boot> > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Upgraded from Debian Lenny to Squeeze, and my machine won't boot
According to this page http://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/PCI#Supported_by_Debian_Kernel_Modules, the card is supported in the 2.6.26. kernel with the siimage module. Mark On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 12:30 PM, gm5729 wrote: > - Original Message - > From: gm5729 > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 1:59 PM > Subject: Re: PLUG-discuss Digest, Vol 69, Issue 28 > > 6. Upgraded from Debian Lenny to Squeeze, and my machine won't > boot (Mark Phillips) > > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:35:14 -0700 > From: Mark Phillips > To: Phoenix Linux Users > Subject: Upgraded from Debian Lenny to Squeeze, and my machine won't >boot > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I have an older Dell Optiplex GX260 running Debian lenny. It has worked for > years as a desktop and a small web server. At one point one of the > integrated IDE disk controller channels died, so I installed a new disk > controller card, a Silicon Image 0680 ATA133 and it worked out of the box > with the two drives for the past 3 months. Last weekend I tried a > dist-upgrade to squeeze. The upgrade had no errors, so I rebooted the > machine, and now all I get is a grub menu. > > When the machine boots, the Silicon Magic displays it's banner and > recognizes the two drives installed in the machine (same as before the > upgrade). I then get the message loading grub 1.5, and I then get dumped to > a grub menu. It seems the boot process does not access the Silicon Image > controller, although it did before I upgraded to squeeze. I tried accessing > the drive from the grub prompt, but the disk access light does not seem to > light up - only the cd light. > > I tried booting from a Knoppix 4.6.6 CD, and it worked. I am able to browse > the internal hard drives with no problem and read files. So, at least > Knoppix can use the controller card and the hardware is not dead. I noticed > on the upgrade from lenny to squeeze I went from kernel 2.6.21 to 2.6.26. > > Any suggestions on how to get the machine to boot again? > > Thanks, > > > > Most likely you are going to have to check your hardware compatiblity > lists. Yes, but why? Debian now has a TOTAL Libre Kernel. Any hardware that > doesn't comply with FOSS standards has been yanked out. > > gk > > --- > Secure Reply (option enabled): > > http://www.CryptoHeaven.com/ch/web-mail.jsp?uId=3537572&subject=Re%3A+Upgraded+from+Debian+Lenny+to+Squeeze%2C+and+my+machine+won%27t+boot > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Upgraded from Debian Lenny to Squeeze, and my machine won't boot
- Original Message -From: Mark Phillips To: Main PLUG discussion list Cc: gm5729 Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 2:36 PMSubject: Re: Upgraded from Debian Lenny to Squeeze, and my machine won't bootA few more observations I tried using grub to attempt to boot. I set up the following based on (1) what I saw using the knoppix disk that the internal drives were mounted on /media/sda5 and /media/sdb1./media/sda5 has the normal linux file system and sdb1 has my backup folders, and (2) grub's tab completion. grub> root (hd0,4)grub> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.21-1-686 root =/dev/sda5grub> initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.26-1-686grub> boot I get as far as:Kernel panic: not syncing: VFS unable to mount rootfs on unknown block(0,0) If I back down to 2.6.21. or 2.6.18 I get this error:Begin: mounting root file system...Begin: running /scripts/local_top...doneBegin: waiting for root file system... So, I guess my original hypothesis is wrong...the SI drive controller may be workingexcept for a small annoying kernel panic or inability to load the file system Does this help anyone figure out what I should do? Thanks, Mark On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 12:30 PM, gm5729 wrote: - Original Message -From: gm5729 To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.usSent: Monday, March 28, 2011 1:59 PMSubject: Re: PLUG-discuss Digest, Vol 69, Issue 28 6. Upgraded from Debian Lenny to Squeeze, and my machine won't boot (Mark Phillips) Message: 6Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:35:14 -0700From: Mark Phillips To: Phoenix Linux Users Subject: Upgraded from Debian Lenny to Squeeze, and my machine won't bootMessage-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have an older Dell Optiplex GX260 running Debian lenny. It has worked foryears as a desktop and a small web server. At one point one of theintegrated IDE disk controller channels died, so I installed a new diskcontroller card, a Silicon Image 0680 ATA133 and it worked out of the boxwith the two drives for the past 3 months. Last weekend I tried adist-upgrade to squeeze. The upgrade had no errors, so I rebooted themachine, and now all I get is a grub menu. When the machine boots, the Silicon Magic displays it's banner andrecognizes the two drives installed in the machine (same as before theupgrade). I then get the message loading grub 1.5, and I then get dumped toa grub menu. It seems the boot process does not access the Silicon Imagecontroller, although it did before I upgraded to squeeze. I tried accessingthe drive from the grub prompt, but the disk access light does not seem tolight up - only the cd light. I tried booting from a Knoppix 4.6.6 CD, and it worked. I am able to browsethe internal hard drives with no problem and read files. So, at leastKnoppix can use the controller card and the hardware is not dead. I noticedon the upgrade from lenny to squeeze I went from kernel 2.6.21 to 2.6.26. Any suggestions on how to get the machine to boot again? Thanks, Most likely you are going to have to check your hardware compatiblity lists. Yes, but why? Debian now has a TOTAL Libre Kernel. Any hardware that doesn't comply with FOSS standards has been yanked out. gk ---Secure Reply (option enabled):http://www.CryptoHeaven.com/ch/web-mail.jsp?uId=3537572&subject=Re%3A+Upgraded+from+Debian+Lenny+to+Squeeze%2C+and+my+machine+won%27t+boot---PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.usTo subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo
Re: Upgraded from Debian Lenny to Squeeze, and my machine won't boot
A few more observations I tried using grub to attempt to boot. I set up the following based on (1) what I saw using the knoppix disk that the internal drives were mounted on /media/sda5 and /media/sdb1./media/sda5 has the normal linux file system and sdb1 has my backup folders, and (2) grub's tab completion. grub> root (hd0,4) grub> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.21-1-686 root =/dev/sda5 grub> initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.26-1-686 grub> boot I get as far as: Kernel panic: not syncing: VFS unable to mount rootfs on unknown block(0,0) If I back down to 2.6.21. or 2.6.18 I get this error: Begin: mounting root file system... Begin: running /scripts/local_top...done Begin: waiting for root file system... So, I guess my original hypothesis is wrong...the SI drive controller may be workingexcept for a small annoying kernel panic or inability to load the file system Does this help anyone figure out what I should do? Thanks, Mark On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 12:30 PM, gm5729 wrote: > - Original Message - > From: gm5729 > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 1:59 PM > Subject: Re: PLUG-discuss Digest, Vol 69, Issue 28 > > 6. Upgraded from Debian Lenny to Squeeze, and my machine won't > boot (Mark Phillips) > > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:35:14 -0700 > From: Mark Phillips > To: Phoenix Linux Users > Subject: Upgraded from Debian Lenny to Squeeze, and my machine won't >boot > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I have an older Dell Optiplex GX260 running Debian lenny. It has worked for > years as a desktop and a small web server. At one point one of the > integrated IDE disk controller channels died, so I installed a new disk > controller card, a Silicon Image 0680 ATA133 and it worked out of the box > with the two drives for the past 3 months. Last weekend I tried a > dist-upgrade to squeeze. The upgrade had no errors, so I rebooted the > machine, and now all I get is a grub menu. > > When the machine boots, the Silicon Magic displays it's banner and > recognizes the two drives installed in the machine (same as before the > upgrade). I then get the message loading grub 1.5, and I then get dumped to > a grub menu. It seems the boot process does not access the Silicon Image > controller, although it did before I upgraded to squeeze. I tried accessing > the drive from the grub prompt, but the disk access light does not seem to > light up - only the cd light. > > I tried booting from a Knoppix 4.6.6 CD, and it worked. I am able to browse > the internal hard drives with no problem and read files. So, at least > Knoppix can use the controller card and the hardware is not dead. I noticed > on the upgrade from lenny to squeeze I went from kernel 2.6.21 to 2.6.26. > > Any suggestions on how to get the machine to boot again? > > Thanks, > > > > Most likely you are going to have to check your hardware compatiblity > lists. Yes, but why? Debian now has a TOTAL Libre Kernel. Any hardware that > doesn't comply with FOSS standards has been yanked out. > > gk > > --- > Secure Reply (option enabled): > > http://www.CryptoHeaven.com/ch/web-mail.jsp?uId=3537572&subject=Re%3A+Upgraded+from+Debian+Lenny+to+Squeeze%2C+and+my+machine+won%27t+boot > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
