Re: anyone done a ubuntu 9.10 upgrade yet?
On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 22:09 -0700, Jerry Davis wrote: > I have used linux for many years, and I have found that upgrades in place > rarely work in the past. > > Has anyone done a upgrade in place using the Update Manager for ubuntu 9.10? > Did it work? > > Or would it be better to just create a tarball of my home directory, save it > off, download and burn the iso, and just do a full install? > Of course, you want to back-up all your files any time you make major changes to your operating system, just in case something weird happens, like continuous re-boots, or the system refuses to let you do a clean install from an upgrade... I ran the 9.10 upgrade from the update manager. I started the process, then went to bed. When I got up in the morning, everything was up and running. For my part, the upgrade fixed a lot of minor issues I had with 9.04, and then some. It was a painless process for me. If you plan to save your home directory to do a clean install anyway, why not just give the update manager upgrade a shot anyway? The worst that can happen is you'll end up saving yourself a lot of time! Stu --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: anyone done a ubuntu 9.10 upgrade yet?
On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 22:30 -0700, Joseph Sinclair wrote: > This depends on what you want out of the upgrade: > For most desktop use, upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 is pretty smooth and > painless, although you'll be stuck with the stupid chooser login, all > of the other GDM options are gone. [snip] There's actually a ton of new ways to configure the new GDM, there's just not a GUI to do it while logged into a session yet. To customize the GUI: 1. log out 2. ctrl+alt+F1 to a tty terminal 3. login, then run the following 2 commands: 1. export DISPLAY=:0.0 2. sudo -u gdm gnome-control-center 4. ctrl+alt+F7 back to the gdm login, and rejoice at the menu available 5. Configure away. you can change the fonts/wallpaper of the gdm screen from 'Appearences', as well as the window borders, colors, etc 6. If you're like me and have dual-screens, you can go to 'Display' and configure them so they don't just mirror each-other. 7. You can even enable basic desktop effects using metacity's compositing feature, if you want to by going back to the TTY1, and typing in sudo -u gdm gconf-editor, and editing the /apps/metacity/compositing key [snip] > After install, use "sudo apt-get purge update-manager update-notifier > update-manager-core update-notifier-common" to get rid of the > pop-under stupidity in update manager (introduced in 9.04 and still > present in 9.10). or... you could restore the traditional notification functionality of update-manager by doing: gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false as prescribed here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904 I agree that the update-manager popping up to tell you about updates is very annoying and distracting... theres ALWAYS better ways to give information to your users than popups (though I'll admit, the new notify-osd system is pretty slick). hope that proves useful to you! -- Andrew _ Registered Linux User: 473690 Registered Ubuntu User: 22747 --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: anyone done a ubuntu 9.10 upgrade yet?
Ext4 is one of the best new features, now fully stable. It's worth the clean install to get. Jim --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: anyone done a ubuntu 9.10 upgrade yet?
On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 22:09 -0700, Jerry Davis wrote: > I have used linux for many years, and I have found that upgrades in place > rarely work in the past. I've had the opposite experience, for the most part... my main desktop has been upgrading in-place since ubuntu 6.10 > Has anyone done a upgrade in place using the Update Manager for ubuntu 9.10? > Did it work? On 3 of the 4 computer's I've done so far, the upgrade was flawless, aside from the new firefox icon not automatically appearing. Of the successful ones, 2 were AMD/nVidia-based desktops, both relatively new, custom builds w/ Gigabyte mobos, and 1 was a Dell Inspiron 1545 w/ integrated Intel graphics. The computer that misbehaved slightly was my main desktop (which usually misbehaves)... a slightly older (about 4-5 years now), but still custom built, AMD/ATI box on an MSI mobo, with lots of extra hardware (webcam, dual-head video, SB Audio deluxe sound card, Logitech G15 keyboard...). The fglrx modules failed to build for the new kernel and I had to remove them manually and replace them with the FOSS Radeon driver (which has gotten a lot better since I last used it, imho), and the flashplugin-installer broke, and I'm w/o flash atm because I haven't bothered to fix it yet. Additionally after the first reboot X failed to start automatically, and I had to login/startx myself. After the second reboot though, everything worked as expected...just had to redo my speaker config because I chose to overwrite the old pulseaudio daemon.conf file during the upgrade. Other than that though, everything seems to be working just fine. > Or would it be better to just create a tarball of my home directory, save it > off, download and burn the iso, and just do a full install? I always back up the really important stuff anyway, but it's probably not entirely needed anymore, unless you really want to. If you're unsure/nervous though, just back everything up anyway and try the upgrade. if it works, keep it and no harm done...if the upgrade doesn't work like you want for whatever reason, do a fresh install and start over. Alternatively, you can always try downloading the alternate CD, and upgrading from that. I usually do that for my laptops since I'm using them on the go, and downloading the whole upgrade takes a pretty long time. I didn't this time, but the last time I did with my old laptop (which is still on 8.04 for an LTS-to-LTS upgrade test) it worked fine. Hope that helps :) -- Andrew _ Registered Linux User: 473690 Registered Ubuntu User: 22747 --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: anyone done a ubuntu 9.10 upgrade yet?
This depends on what you want out of the upgrade: For most desktop use, upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 is pretty smooth and painless, although you'll be stuck with the stupid chooser login, all of the other GDM options are gone. There are some other "new" "features" that eliminate all choice in various areas, but most users won't notice those (picky types like me will probably want to "apt-get purge" about 200 packages jammed in by the new version in order to restore some semblance of a desktop that works your way, rather than the "Microsoft" way). If you want to run ext4 partitions, you'll want to backup your homedir and do a clean install. "Upgrades" from ext3 to ext4 aren't complete due to technical limitations, so it's best to do a clean format as ext4 if you want to use it. After install, use "sudo apt-get purge update-manager update-notifier update-manager-core update-notifier-common" to get rid of the pop-under stupidity in update manager (introduced in 9.04 and still present in 9.10). You'll have to run "apt-get update;apt-get -d dist-upgrade" nightly via cron (and then run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" manually on occasion to do actual upgrades) to replicate the useful functionality that update-notifier used to offer, but it's a small price to pay for not having the stupid thing interrupt your work constantly. ==Joseph++ Jerry Davis wrote: > I have used linux for many years, and I have found that upgrades in place > rarely work in the past. > > Has anyone done a upgrade in place using the Update Manager for ubuntu 9.10? > Did it work? > > Or would it be better to just create a tarball of my home directory, save it > off, download and burn the iso, and just do a full install? > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: anyone done a ubuntu 9.10 upgrade yet?
I downloaded the ISO and it would even install on a Tpad R40. -jmz On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Jerry Davis wrote: > I have used linux for many years, and I have found that upgrades in place > rarely work in the past. > > Has anyone done a upgrade in place using the Update Manager for ubuntu 9.10? > Did it work? > > Or would it be better to just create a tarball of my home directory, save it > off, download and burn the iso, and just do a full install? > > -- > Hobbit Name: Pimpernel Loamsdown > Registered Linux User: 275424 > K7AZJ > > This email's Fortune: > If ignorance is bliss, why aren't there more happy people? > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
