Re: scp times out

2009-10-23 Thread Alex Dean


On Oct 23, 2009, at 12:59 PM, Josef Lowder wrote:


$ scp filename j...@192.168.1.68:/home/joe/filecopy


This will give you more info about what's going on...

scp -v filename j...@192.168.1.68:/home/joe/filecopy


ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.68 port 22: Connection timed out
lost connection

/sbin/ifconfig shows 192.168.1.68 as the inet address.

What do I need to do to get scp to work?
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Re: scp times out

2009-10-23 Thread Matt Graham
From: Alex Dean a...@crackpot.org
 On Oct 23, 2009, at 12:59 PM, Josef Lowder wrote:
 $ scp filename j...@192.168.1.68:/home/joe/filecopy
 ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.68 port 22: Connection timed out
 /sbin/ifconfig shows 192.168.1.68 as the inet address.

 This will give you more info about what's going on...
 scp -v filename j...@192.168.1.68:/home/joe/filecopy

First thing I'd check is the iptables rulesets.  An overly paranoid
firewall could cause this to happen.  Second thing I'd check is the
/etc/ssh/sshd_config , to make sure that sshd is listening on that
interface (or all interfaces) and port 22.  pgrep sshd returns a
PID, right?  If it doesn't, there's your problem right there.

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Re: scp times out

2009-10-23 Thread Josef Lowder
Alex Dean a...@crackpot.org wrote:
  $ scp filename j...@192.168.1.68:/home/joe/filecopy
 This will give you more info about what's going on:
 scp -v filename j...@192.168.1.68:/home/joe/filecopy

So I tried that and got this error message:

scp -v filename j...@192.168.1.68:/home/joe/filename
Executing: program /usr/bin/ssh host 192.168.1.68, user joe, command
scp -v -t /home/joe/filename
OpenSSH_4.2p1, OpenSSL 0.9.7g 11 Apr 2005
debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
debug1: Applying options for *
debug1: Connecting to 192.168.1.68 [192.168.1.68] port 22: Connection timed out
ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.68 port 22: Connection timed out
lost connection

= = =   So I examined the ssh_config file and found mostly remarked lines
and no clues that meant anything to me there.

$ cat ssh_config
#$OpenBSD: ssh_config,v 1.20 2005/01/28 09:45:53 dtucker Exp $

# This is the ssh client system-wide configuration file.  See
# ssh_config(5) for more information.  This file provides defaults for
# users, and the values can be changed in per-user configuration files
# or on the command line.

# Configuration data is parsed as follows:
#  1. command line options
#  2. user-specific file
#  3. system-wide file
# Any configuration value is only changed the first time it is set.
# Thus, host-specific definitions should be at the beginning of the
# configuration file, and defaults at the end.

# Site-wide defaults for some commonly used options.  For a comprehensive
# list of available options, their meanings and defaults, please see the
# ssh_config(5) man page.

# Host *
#   ForwardAgent no
#   ForwardX11 no
#   RhostsRSAAuthentication no
#   RSAAuthentication yes
#   PasswordAuthentication yes
#   HostbasedAuthentication no
#   BatchMode no
#   CheckHostIP yes
#   AddressFamily any
#   ConnectTimeout 0
#   StrictHostKeyChecking ask
#   IdentityFile ~/.ssh/identity
#   IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_rsa
#   IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_dsa
#   Port 22
#   Protocol 2,1
#   Cipher 3des
#   Ciphers 
aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc
#   EscapeChar ~

Host *
  ForwardX11 yes
  ForwardX11Trusted yes
  Protocol 2,1
StrictHostKeyChecking no
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Re: scp times out

2009-10-23 Thread Lisa Kachold
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.netwrote:

 From: Alex Dean a...@crackpot.org
  On Oct 23, 2009, at 12:59 PM, Josef Lowder wrote:
  $ scp filename j...@192.168.1.68:/home/joe/filecopy
  ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.68 port 22: Connection timed out
  /sbin/ifconfig shows 192.168.1.68 as the inet address.

  This will give you more info about what's going on...
  scp -v filename j...@192.168.1.68:/home/joe/filecopy


0) Verify default route is in place: netstat -rn (UG should be gateway)
1) Ensure ssh is on on the target machine.
2) Verify ports are open:  nmap $target  (to ensure iptables are not
limiting ssh access by source/destination or mac address, port knocking)
3) Verify MTU issues if you are in a remote connection or VPN.
4) Travel to the machine and verify it's turned on (laugh), ethernet up, ssh
on!

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Re: scp times out

2009-10-23 Thread Josef Lowder
Matt Graham wrote:
 First thing I'd check is the iptables rulesets. An overly paranoid
 firewall could cause this to happen. Second thing I'd check is the
 /etc/ssh/sshd_config , to make sure that sshd is listening on that
 interface (or all interfaces) and port 22. pgrep sshd returns a
 PID, right? If it doesn't, there's your problem right there.

How does one check the iptables rulesets?
How does one deetermine if sshd is listening?

pgrep sshd  gives no response.
so what does that mean?  and how can I fix that?

This scp worked a year ago when I tried it and I've made
no changes in this system since ... so what's next?
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RE: scp times out

2009-10-23 Thread Bob Elzer
try   telnet 192.168.1.68 22
 
if you get some prompts then the port is working, if not it's probably being
blocked.
 
check your firewall settings.
 

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Subject: Re: scp times out




On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.net
wrote:


From: Alex Dean a...@crackpot.org

 On Oct 23, 2009, at 12:59 PM, Josef Lowder wrote:
 $ scp filename j...@192.168.1.68:/home/joe/filecopy

 ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.68 port 22: Connection timed out

 /sbin/ifconfig shows 192.168.1.68 as the inet address.


 This will give you more info about what's going on...
 scp -v filename j...@192.168.1.68:/home/joe/filecopy



0) Verify default route is in place: netstat -rn (UG should be gateway)
1) Ensure ssh is on on the target machine.
2) Verify ports are open:  nmap $target  (to ensure iptables are not
limiting ssh access by source/destination or mac address, port knocking)
3) Verify MTU issues if you are in a remote connection or VPN.
4) Travel to the machine and verify it's turned on (laugh), ethernet up, ssh
on!

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Re: scp times out

2009-10-23 Thread Josef Lowder
Lisa wrote:
0) Verify default route is in place: netstat -rn (UG should be gateway)
1) Ensure ssh is on on the target machine.
2) Verify ports are open:  nmap $target  (to ensure iptables are not
limiting ssh access by source/destination or mac address, port
knocking)
3) Verify MTU issues if you are in a remote connection or VPN.
4) Travel to the machine and verify it's turned on (laugh), ethernet up, ssh on.

0) netstat -rn (results):
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 eth0
127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0 0  0 lo
0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0  0 eth0

1) target machine finds /etc/ssh (how do I determine if it is turned on?)

2) don't understand 'nmap $target' but tried the following with these results:
nmap -v -sS -O 192.168.0.68
Starting nmap 3.81 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2009-10-23 12:40 MST
Initiating SYN Stealth Scan against 192.168.0.68 [1663 ports] at 12:40
Discovered open port 631/tcp on 192.168.0.68
The SYN Stealth Scan took 0.15s to scan 1663 total ports.
For OSScan assuming port 631 is open, 1 is closed, and neither are firewalled
Host 192.168.0.68 appears to be up ... good.
Interesting ports on 192.168.0.68:
(The 1662 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
PORTSTATE SERVICE
631/tcp open  ipp
MAC Address: 00:14:85:1E:5F:5E (Unknown)
Device type: general purpose
Running: Linux 2.4.X|2.5.X|2.6.X
OS details: Linux 2.4.0 - 2.5.20, Linux 2.4.18 - 2.6.7
TCP Sequence Prediction: Class=random positive increments
 Difficulty=3597859 (Good luck!)
IPID Sequence Generation: All zeros

Nmap finished: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 12.492 seconds
   Raw packets sent: 1679 (67.4KB) | Rcvd: 1677 (77.6KB)

3) Don't know how to Verify MTU issues if you are in a remote
connection or VPN
but I am not in a remote location. The two machines are side by side.

4) Travel to the machine and verify it's turned on (laugh), ethernet up, ssh on.
Both machines are working, connected via ethernet, and both connect to Internet.
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Re: scp times out

2009-10-23 Thread Matt Graham
From: Josef Lowder j...@actionline.com
 Matt Graham wrote:
 First thing I'd check is the iptables rulesets.
 How does one check the iptables rulesets?

iptables -L .  And then looking at the output for anything dumb.

 pgrep sshd returns a PID, right? If it doesn't, there's your
 problem right there.
 How does one deetermine if sshd is listening?

netstat -a will tell you which processes are listening on which
ports.

 pgrep sshd gives no response.
 so what does that mean?  and how can I fix that?

That means sshd is not running, and the solution is obvious:
Restart sshd.

 This scp worked a year ago when I tried it and I've made
 no changes in this system since ... so what's next?

No changes in a year?  What?  Don't you keep the system updated?

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Re: scp times out

2009-10-23 Thread Josef Lowder
I last wrote (in part):
  This scp worked a year ago when I tried it and I've made
  no changes in this system since.

Then Matt Graham wrote:
 No changes in a year? What? Don't you keep the system updated?

That's correct. I have several computers, on some of which I do
regular updates, but on my old reliable I never make changes
(or updates) because it works more reliably than any of my other
computers.  I tried doing updates on it a couple of times and each
time the updates royally messed everything up so bad that it took
me weeks to get it back to working reliably again.  So that is how
I keep it, and it never fails.  Can't say the same for the others.

Change is not always good.

In this case, I've finally figured out that the scp problem is apparently
related to the fact that I changed modem/routers and the new Motorola
router (from Qwest) has apparently created the current problem.

Today, I found that I had to enable passthrough in order to be able to
pass files between computers on my network, but in doing that, the
inet address got messed up and now I can't get that reset to the
correct inet address.

I've searched the 'net and tried everything I could find to try.
One time I did get it working, but then (apparently) the router
messed it up again. I've tried:

# dhclient -r
# dhclient
# ifdown eth0
# ifup eth0
# /etc/init.d/network restart

... and a bunch of other things.  After many repeated attempts,
at one point, ifconfig showed the correct inet address and I was
able to connect ... but then it self-disconnected somehow and
I've not been able to get it restored.

This is just another reason why, once I get a computer system
to work correctly, I dread changing things.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Once you get it fixed, don't mess with it.
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Re: scp times out

2009-10-23 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 17:12 -0500, Josef Lowder wrote:
 I last wrote (in part):
   This scp worked a year ago when I tried it and I've made
   no changes in this system since.
 
 Then Matt Graham wrote:
  No changes in a year? What? Don't you keep the system updated?
 
 That's correct. I have several computers, on some of which I do
 regular updates, but on my old reliable I never make changes
 (or updates) because it works more reliably than any of my other
 computers.  I tried doing updates on it a couple of times and each
 time the updates royally messed everything up so bad that it took
 me weeks to get it back to working reliably again.  So that is how
 I keep it, and it never fails.  Can't say the same for the others.
 
 Change is not always good.
 
 In this case, I've finally figured out that the scp problem is apparently
 related to the fact that I changed modem/routers and the new Motorola
 router (from Qwest) has apparently created the current problem.
 
 Today, I found that I had to enable passthrough in order to be able to
 pass files between computers on my network, but in doing that, the
 inet address got messed up and now I can't get that reset to the
 correct inet address.
 
 I've searched the 'net and tried everything I could find to try.
 One time I did get it working, but then (apparently) the router
 messed it up again. I've tried:
 
 # dhclient -r
 # dhclient
 # ifdown eth0
 # ifup eth0
 # /etc/init.d/network restart
 
 ... and a bunch of other things.  After many repeated attempts,
 at one point, ifconfig showed the correct inet address and I was
 able to connect ... but then it self-disconnected somehow and
 I've not been able to get it restored.
 
 This is just another reason why, once I get a computer system
 to work correctly, I dread changing things.
 
 If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
 Once you get it fixed, don't mess with it.

I can't quite figure out if this is an indictment on all Linux in
general or the specific distribution that he uses but this is pathetic.

If the distribution you choose to use breaks because you update, you
need to find a different one...period, end of discussion.

Craig


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Re: scp times out

2009-10-23 Thread Lisa Kachold
netstat -anp |grep 22  (get anything?)
ps -e |grep ssh

/etc/init.d/sshd start

or /etc/init.d/ssh start

nmap localhost (watch for port 22)

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote:

 On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 17:12 -0500, Josef Lowder wrote:
  I last wrote (in part):
This scp worked a year ago when I tried it and I've made
no changes in this system since.
 
  Then Matt Graham wrote:
   No changes in a year? What? Don't you keep the system updated?
 
  That's correct. I have several computers, on some of which I do
  regular updates, but on my old reliable I never make changes
  (or updates) because it works more reliably than any of my other
  computers.  I tried doing updates on it a couple of times and each
  time the updates royally messed everything up so bad that it took
  me weeks to get it back to working reliably again.  So that is how
  I keep it, and it never fails.  Can't say the same for the others.
 
  Change is not always good.
 
  In this case, I've finally figured out that the scp problem is apparently
  related to the fact that I changed modem/routers and the new Motorola
  router (from Qwest) has apparently created the current problem.
 
  Today, I found that I had to enable passthrough in order to be able to
  pass files between computers on my network, but in doing that, the
  inet address got messed up and now I can't get that reset to the
  correct inet address.
 
  I've searched the 'net and tried everything I could find to try.
  One time I did get it working, but then (apparently) the router
  messed it up again. I've tried:
 
  # dhclient -r
  # dhclient
  # ifdown eth0
  # ifup eth0
  # /etc/init.d/network restart
 
  ... and a bunch of other things.  After many repeated attempts,
  at one point, ifconfig showed the correct inet address and I was
  able to connect ... but then it self-disconnected somehow and
  I've not been able to get it restored.
 
  This is just another reason why, once I get a computer system
  to work correctly, I dread changing things.
 
  If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
  Once you get it fixed, don't mess with it.
 
 I can't quite figure out if this is an indictment on all Linux in
 general or the specific distribution that he uses but this is pathetic.

 If the distribution you choose to use breaks because you update, you
 need to find a different one...period, end of discussion.

 Craig


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