Re: WINE ON KEYBOARD
The keyboard appears to be working fine again. Strange! On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: manufacturers website for the manual. Dell and HP have insanely old manuals still and the reason you use distilled water to rinse, it has fewer minerals. they are what conducts electricity to cause a short. and the wine is under the key but in the mech underneath it. On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: WHERE would I find this manual? On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.net wrote: From: Alan Dayley ala...@consultpros.com Take apart the notebook enough to remove the keyboard. Find the Fine Manual for that machine first. Sometimes it's totally not obvious how to remove the keyboard, and the Fine Manual generally tells you how to do that. Wash the keyboard in warm water. DISTILLED water. Temp really doesn't matter that much AFAICT, but there's less crud in distilled water, and you want as little crud as possible in the parts. Dry the keyboard in the AZ sun for a day, maybe two. Longer if not in the sun. 12 hours should be fine considering the low humidity here. 24 hours in MI, because it's so much more humid there. Or, instead of all that, buy a replacement keyboard from eBay or a repair shop. Try washing it out first if you have more time than spare money. FWIW, I had this happen with orange juice and a desktop keyboard 6 years ago, and the distilled water + 24 hours drying time worked perfectly. -- Matt G / Dances With Crows The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
WINE ON KEYBOARD
I have a laptop and wine was spilled on the keyboard. Now it won't type usually and when it will it doesn't type with any sense... usually keys stick. Any ideas on what to do to fix it? If I remember correctly we already discussed this and the decision was that the computer was hosed. Or was it that it needed to be immersed in hot water? Any pointers are appreciated! -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: WINE ON KEYBOARD
If you can remove the keyboard you can then clean it. using water with vinegar then rinsing with just the distilled water and letting it sit in the sun for a few hours to dry/going after it with compressed air. On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I have a laptop and wine was spilled on the keyboard. Now it won't type usually and when it will it doesn't type with any sense... usually keys stick. Any ideas on what to do to fix it? If I remember correctly we already discussed this and the decision was that the computer was hosed. Or was it that it needed to be immersed in hot water? Any pointers are appreciated! -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: WINE ON KEYBOARD
Follow these ideas AT YOUR OWN RISK. - Take apart the notebook enough to remove the keyboard. - Wash the keyboard in warm water. - Dry the keyboard in the AZ sun for a day, maybe two. Longer if not in the sun. - The keyboard must be completely dry before reconnecting. Are you sure it is dry? - Re-install the keyboard and hope it now is clean and works. Or, instead of all that, buy a replacement keyboard from eBay or a repair shop. Alan On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I have a laptop and wine was spilled on the keyboard. Now it won't type usually and when it will it doesn't type with any sense... usually keys stick. Any ideas on what to do to fix it? If I remember correctly we already discussed this and the decision was that the computer was hosed. Or was it that it needed to be immersed in hot water? Any pointers are appreciated! -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: WINE ON KEYBOARD
CAN'T separate the keyboard from the laptop. good thing I had aan extra keyboard! Here's something that may be pertinent: after I pop individual keys that are sticking off there is no evidence of wine. On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:46 AM Stephen wrote: If you can remove the keyboard you can then clean it. using water with vinegar then rinsing with just the distilled water and letting it sit in the sun for a few hours to dry/going after it with compressed air. On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Alan Dayley ala...@consultpros.comwrote: Follow these ideas AT YOUR OWN RISK. - Take apart the notebook enough to remove the keyboard. - Wash the keyboard in warm water. - Dry the keyboard in the AZ sun for a day, maybe two. Longer if not in the sun. - The keyboard must be completely dry before reconnecting. Are you sure it is dry? - Re-install the keyboard and hope it now is clean and works. Or, instead of all that, buy a replacement keyboard from eBay or a repair shop. Alan On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: I have a laptop and wine was spilled on the keyboard. Now it won't type usually and when it will it doesn't type with any sense... usually keys stick. Any ideas on what to do to fix it? If I remember correctly we already discussed this and the decision was that the computer was hosed. Or was it that it needed to be immersed in hot water? Any pointers are appreciated! -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: WINE ON KEYBOARD
From: Alan Dayley ala...@consultpros.com Take apart the notebook enough to remove the keyboard. Find the Fine Manual for that machine first. Sometimes it's totally not obvious how to remove the keyboard, and the Fine Manual generally tells you how to do that. Wash the keyboard in warm water. DISTILLED water. Temp really doesn't matter that much AFAICT, but there's less crud in distilled water, and you want as little crud as possible in the parts. Dry the keyboard in the AZ sun for a day, maybe two. Longer if not in the sun. 12 hours should be fine considering the low humidity here. 24 hours in MI, because it's so much more humid there. Or, instead of all that, buy a replacement keyboard from eBay or a repair shop. Try washing it out first if you have more time than spare money. FWIW, I had this happen with orange juice and a desktop keyboard 6 years ago, and the distilled water + 24 hours drying time worked perfectly. -- Matt G / Dances With Crows The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: WINE ON KEYBOARD
WHERE would I find this manual? On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.netwrote: From: Alan Dayley ala...@consultpros.com Take apart the notebook enough to remove the keyboard. Find the Fine Manual for that machine first. Sometimes it's totally not obvious how to remove the keyboard, and the Fine Manual generally tells you how to do that. Wash the keyboard in warm water. DISTILLED water. Temp really doesn't matter that much AFAICT, but there's less crud in distilled water, and you want as little crud as possible in the parts. Dry the keyboard in the AZ sun for a day, maybe two. Longer if not in the sun. 12 hours should be fine considering the low humidity here. 24 hours in MI, because it's so much more humid there. Or, instead of all that, buy a replacement keyboard from eBay or a repair shop. Try washing it out first if you have more time than spare money. FWIW, I had this happen with orange juice and a desktop keyboard 6 years ago, and the distilled water + 24 hours drying time worked perfectly. -- Matt G / Dances With Crows The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: WINE ON KEYBOARD
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.netwrote: From: Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com Find the Fine Manual for that machine first. WHERE would I find this manual? Manufacturer's website would be the first place to look. All the IBM laptops I've ever owned had a Field Circus Manual available in the bowels of their website somewhere. The important keywords are $MODEL and service manual, since the general user manual will probably be completely useless. Dull also had manuals available, though these were less good than the IBM manuals. (This should not surprise you.) I don't know about other makes. This is where you get to find out :-P Good luck! -- Matt G / Dances With Crows The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: WINE ON KEYBOARD
To a search on your specific model. For example: disassemble toshiba A135 gets me a photo based, step by step disassembly instructions for my now dead laptop. Alan On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.net wrote: On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.netwrote: From: Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com Find the Fine Manual for that machine first. WHERE would I find this manual? Manufacturer's website would be the first place to look. All the IBM laptops I've ever owned had a Field Circus Manual available in the bowels of their website somewhere. The important keywords are $MODEL and service manual, since the general user manual will probably be completely useless. Dull also had manuals available, though these were less good than the IBM manuals. (This should not surprise you.) I don't know about other makes. This is where you get to find out :-P Good luck! -- Matt G / Dances With Crows The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: WINE ON KEYBOARD
manufacturers website for the manual. Dell and HP have insanely old manuals still and the reason you use distilled water to rinse, it has fewer minerals. they are what conducts electricity to cause a short. and the wine is under the key but in the mech underneath it. On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: WHERE would I find this manual? On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.net wrote: From: Alan Dayley ala...@consultpros.com Take apart the notebook enough to remove the keyboard. Find the Fine Manual for that machine first. Sometimes it's totally not obvious how to remove the keyboard, and the Fine Manual generally tells you how to do that. Wash the keyboard in warm water. DISTILLED water. Temp really doesn't matter that much AFAICT, but there's less crud in distilled water, and you want as little crud as possible in the parts. Dry the keyboard in the AZ sun for a day, maybe two. Longer if not in the sun. 12 hours should be fine considering the low humidity here. 24 hours in MI, because it's so much more humid there. Or, instead of all that, buy a replacement keyboard from eBay or a repair shop. Try washing it out first if you have more time than spare money. FWIW, I had this happen with orange juice and a desktop keyboard 6 years ago, and the distilled water + 24 hours drying time worked perfectly. -- Matt G / Dances With Crows The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
