Re: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-08-27 Thread JD Austin
Im trying an experiment to see if I can just copy the contents of
C:\Documents and Settings\User\ to \\directory\profiles\User\
or for vista/win7
c:\Computer\OS\Users\User to \\directory\profiles\User\
before I actually join he user 'for real'.



On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 20:07, JD Austin  wrote:

> House for daily use; I'm coaching them on using their H drive (/home)
> instead of My Documents to keep the profile from blowing up when they're
> remote
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 19:33, Bryan O'Neal <
> bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com> wrote:
>
>> By copied are you just using the samba server as a backup server or
>> are you using it to actually house the roaming profiles during daily
>> use?
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 7:21 PM, JD Austin  wrote:
>> > I've confirmed that the roaming profiles work for a few test users.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 19:16, Bryan O'Neal
>> >  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Just to make sure roaming profile works from a client computer for the
>> >> admin but not for the regular users on the same desktop?
>> >> My first suggestion would to allow browsing and execution on the SAMBA
>> >> and FS level for everyone (save guest) and use ACL's to control user
>> >> access. If you join the samba server to the AD and use kerberos
>> >> tickets to pass authentication the windows server will simply think of
>> >> the samba server as another windows server.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:56 PM, JD Austin  wrote:
>> >> > The netlogon doesn't have permissions listed but profiles does; it
>> seems
>> >> > the
>> >> > group name of the directory was mostly the issue (root):
>> >> > [Profiles]
>> >> > path = /home/e-smith/files/samba/profiles
>> >> > writeable = yes
>> >> > browseable = no
>> >> > create mask = 0600
>> >> > directory mask = 0700
>> >> > csc policy = disable
>> >> > hide files = /desktop.ini/ntuser.ini/NTUSER.*/
>> >> >
>> >> > [netlogon]
>> >> > comment = Network Logon Service
>> >> > path = /home/e-smith/files/samba/netlogon
>> >> > guest ok = yes
>> >> > writable = yes
>> >> > browseable = no
>> >> >
>> >> > SME server uses a bunch of templates and has a system for building
>> the
>> >> > smb.conf file that I'm still learning how to use such as:
>> >> >
>> >> > db configuration setprop smb RecycleBin enabled
>> >> > db configuration setprop smb KeepVersions enabled
>> >> > signal-event group-modify shared
>> >> > signal-event group-modify domain-admins
>> >> > signal-event group-modify domain-users
>> >> >
>> >> > I really hate using a bleeding edge version but I'll make it work :)
>> >> > JD
>> >> > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:39, Eric Shubert  wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> What are the permissions in your smb.conf file?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> (check logon path and [Profiles] in particular)
>> >> >>
>> >> >
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Re: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-08-27 Thread Bryan O'Neal
Definitely start by joining the linux server to the domain,
eliminating local accounts, use Active Directory for authentication
and ACL's for permissions. I can help you with this using WindBind and
Kerberos if you want. Totally set up time for CENT OS 4.5 and above
should be about 15 - 20 min. Start by making sure your servers all use
the same NTP servers and there clocks are in sync - then make sure you
change the windows server Administrator password. Those are usually
the only points left out of most online instructions.


On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:07 PM, JD Austin  wrote:
> House for daily use; I'm coaching them on using their H drive (/home)
> instead of My Documents to keep the profile from blowing up when they're
> remote
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 19:33, Bryan O'Neal
>  wrote:
>>
>> By copied are you just using the samba server as a backup server or
>> are you using it to actually house the roaming profiles during daily
>> use?
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 7:21 PM, JD Austin  wrote:
>> > I've confirmed that the roaming profiles work for a few test users.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 19:16, Bryan O'Neal
>> >  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Just to make sure roaming profile works from a client computer for the
>> >> admin but not for the regular users on the same desktop?
>> >> My first suggestion would to allow browsing and execution on the SAMBA
>> >> and FS level for everyone (save guest) and use ACL's to control user
>> >> access. If you join the samba server to the AD and use kerberos
>> >> tickets to pass authentication the windows server will simply think of
>> >> the samba server as another windows server.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:56 PM, JD Austin  wrote:
>> >> > The netlogon doesn't have permissions listed but profiles does; it
>> >> > seems
>> >> > the
>> >> > group name of the directory was mostly the issue (root):
>> >> > [Profiles]
>> >> > path = /home/e-smith/files/samba/profiles
>> >> > writeable = yes
>> >> > browseable = no
>> >> > create mask = 0600
>> >> > directory mask = 0700
>> >> > csc policy = disable
>> >> > hide files = /desktop.ini/ntuser.ini/NTUSER.*/
>> >> >
>> >> > [netlogon]
>> >> > comment = Network Logon Service
>> >> > path = /home/e-smith/files/samba/netlogon
>> >> > guest ok = yes
>> >> > writable = yes
>> >> > browseable = no
>> >> >
>> >> > SME server uses a bunch of templates and has a system for building
>> >> > the
>> >> > smb.conf file that I'm still learning how to use such as:
>> >> >
>> >> > db configuration setprop smb RecycleBin enabled
>> >> > db configuration setprop smb KeepVersions enabled
>> >> > signal-event group-modify shared
>> >> > signal-event group-modify domain-admins
>> >> > signal-event group-modify domain-users
>> >> >
>> >> > I really hate using a bleeding edge version but I'll make it work :)
>> >> > JD
>> >> > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:39, Eric Shubert  wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> What are the permissions in your smb.conf file?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> (check logon path and [Profiles] in particular)
>> >> >>
>> >> >
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Re: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-08-27 Thread JD Austin
House for daily use; I'm coaching them on using their H drive (/home)
instead of My Documents to keep the profile from blowing up when they're
remote
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 19:33, Bryan O'Neal <
bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com> wrote:

> By copied are you just using the samba server as a backup server or
> are you using it to actually house the roaming profiles during daily
> use?
>
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 7:21 PM, JD Austin  wrote:
> > I've confirmed that the roaming profiles work for a few test users.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 19:16, Bryan O'Neal
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> Just to make sure roaming profile works from a client computer for the
> >> admin but not for the regular users on the same desktop?
> >> My first suggestion would to allow browsing and execution on the SAMBA
> >> and FS level for everyone (save guest) and use ACL's to control user
> >> access. If you join the samba server to the AD and use kerberos
> >> tickets to pass authentication the windows server will simply think of
> >> the samba server as another windows server.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:56 PM, JD Austin  wrote:
> >> > The netlogon doesn't have permissions listed but profiles does; it
> seems
> >> > the
> >> > group name of the directory was mostly the issue (root):
> >> > [Profiles]
> >> > path = /home/e-smith/files/samba/profiles
> >> > writeable = yes
> >> > browseable = no
> >> > create mask = 0600
> >> > directory mask = 0700
> >> > csc policy = disable
> >> > hide files = /desktop.ini/ntuser.ini/NTUSER.*/
> >> >
> >> > [netlogon]
> >> > comment = Network Logon Service
> >> > path = /home/e-smith/files/samba/netlogon
> >> > guest ok = yes
> >> > writable = yes
> >> > browseable = no
> >> >
> >> > SME server uses a bunch of templates and has a system for building the
> >> > smb.conf file that I'm still learning how to use such as:
> >> >
> >> > db configuration setprop smb RecycleBin enabled
> >> > db configuration setprop smb KeepVersions enabled
> >> > signal-event group-modify shared
> >> > signal-event group-modify domain-admins
> >> > signal-event group-modify domain-users
> >> >
> >> > I really hate using a bleeding edge version but I'll make it work :)
> >> > JD
> >> > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:39, Eric Shubert  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> What are the permissions in your smb.conf file?
> >> >>
> >> >> (check logon path and [Profiles] in particular)
> >> >>
> >> >
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Re: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-08-27 Thread Bryan O'Neal
By copied are you just using the samba server as a backup server or
are you using it to actually house the roaming profiles during daily
use?

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 7:21 PM, JD Austin  wrote:
> I've confirmed that the roaming profiles work for a few test users.
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 19:16, Bryan O'Neal
>  wrote:
>>
>> Just to make sure roaming profile works from a client computer for the
>> admin but not for the regular users on the same desktop?
>> My first suggestion would to allow browsing and execution on the SAMBA
>> and FS level for everyone (save guest) and use ACL's to control user
>> access. If you join the samba server to the AD and use kerberos
>> tickets to pass authentication the windows server will simply think of
>> the samba server as another windows server.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:56 PM, JD Austin  wrote:
>> > The netlogon doesn't have permissions listed but profiles does; it seems
>> > the
>> > group name of the directory was mostly the issue (root):
>> > [Profiles]
>> > path = /home/e-smith/files/samba/profiles
>> > writeable = yes
>> > browseable = no
>> > create mask = 0600
>> > directory mask = 0700
>> > csc policy = disable
>> > hide files = /desktop.ini/ntuser.ini/NTUSER.*/
>> >
>> > [netlogon]
>> > comment = Network Logon Service
>> > path = /home/e-smith/files/samba/netlogon
>> > guest ok = yes
>> > writable = yes
>> > browseable = no
>> >
>> > SME server uses a bunch of templates and has a system for building the
>> > smb.conf file that I'm still learning how to use such as:
>> >
>> > db configuration setprop smb RecycleBin enabled
>> > db configuration setprop smb KeepVersions enabled
>> > signal-event group-modify shared
>> > signal-event group-modify domain-admins
>> > signal-event group-modify domain-users
>> >
>> > I really hate using a bleeding edge version but I'll make it work :)
>> > JD
>> > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:39, Eric Shubert  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> What are the permissions in your smb.conf file?
>> >>
>> >> (check logon path and [Profiles] in particular)
>> >>
>> >
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Re: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-08-27 Thread JD Austin
I've confirmed that the roaming profiles work for a few test users.




On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 19:16, Bryan O'Neal <
bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com> wrote:

> Just to make sure roaming profile works from a client computer for the
> admin but not for the regular users on the same desktop?
> My first suggestion would to allow browsing and execution on the SAMBA
> and FS level for everyone (save guest) and use ACL's to control user
> access. If you join the samba server to the AD and use kerberos
> tickets to pass authentication the windows server will simply think of
> the samba server as another windows server.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:56 PM, JD Austin  wrote:
> > The netlogon doesn't have permissions listed but profiles does; it seems
> the
> > group name of the directory was mostly the issue (root):
> > [Profiles]
> > path = /home/e-smith/files/samba/profiles
> > writeable = yes
> > browseable = no
> > create mask = 0600
> > directory mask = 0700
> > csc policy = disable
> > hide files = /desktop.ini/ntuser.ini/NTUSER.*/
> >
> > [netlogon]
> > comment = Network Logon Service
> > path = /home/e-smith/files/samba/netlogon
> > guest ok = yes
> > writable = yes
> > browseable = no
> >
> > SME server uses a bunch of templates and has a system for building the
> > smb.conf file that I'm still learning how to use such as:
> >
> > db configuration setprop smb RecycleBin enabled
> > db configuration setprop smb KeepVersions enabled
> > signal-event group-modify shared
> > signal-event group-modify domain-admins
> > signal-event group-modify domain-users
> >
> > I really hate using a bleeding edge version but I'll make it work :)
> > JD
> > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:39, Eric Shubert  wrote:
> >>
> >> What are the permissions in your smb.conf file?
> >>
> >> (check logon path and [Profiles] in particular)
> >>
> >
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Re: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-08-27 Thread JD Austin
All I really care about is that their documents, settings, and other stuff
tied to their profile are copied to the server.
I found win2k3 migration toolkit and linkd.exe but not sure how exactly to
use it.


On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 19:16, Bryan O'Neal <
bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com> wrote:

> Just to make sure roaming profile works from a client computer for the
> admin but not for the regular users on the same desktop?
> My first suggestion would to allow browsing and execution on the SAMBA
> and FS level for everyone (save guest) and use ACL's to control user
> access. If you join the samba server to the AD and use kerberos
> tickets to pass authentication the windows server will simply think of
> the samba server as another windows server.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:56 PM, JD Austin  wrote:
> > The netlogon doesn't have permissions listed but profiles does; it seems
> the
> > group name of the directory was mostly the issue (root):
> > [Profiles]
> > path = /home/e-smith/files/samba/profiles
> > writeable = yes
> > browseable = no
> > create mask = 0600
> > directory mask = 0700
> > csc policy = disable
> > hide files = /desktop.ini/ntuser.ini/NTUSER.*/
> >
> > [netlogon]
> > comment = Network Logon Service
> > path = /home/e-smith/files/samba/netlogon
> > guest ok = yes
> > writable = yes
> > browseable = no
> >
> > SME server uses a bunch of templates and has a system for building the
> > smb.conf file that I'm still learning how to use such as:
> >
> > db configuration setprop smb RecycleBin enabled
> > db configuration setprop smb KeepVersions enabled
> > signal-event group-modify shared
> > signal-event group-modify domain-admins
> > signal-event group-modify domain-users
> >
> > I really hate using a bleeding edge version but I'll make it work :)
> > JD
> > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:39, Eric Shubert  wrote:
> >>
> >> What are the permissions in your smb.conf file?
> >>
> >> (check logon path and [Profiles] in particular)
> >>
> >
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Re: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-08-27 Thread Bryan O'Neal
Just to make sure roaming profile works from a client computer for the
admin but not for the regular users on the same desktop?
My first suggestion would to allow browsing and execution on the SAMBA
and FS level for everyone (save guest) and use ACL's to control user
access. If you join the samba server to the AD and use kerberos
tickets to pass authentication the windows server will simply think of
the samba server as another windows server.



On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:56 PM, JD Austin  wrote:
> The netlogon doesn't have permissions listed but profiles does; it seems the
> group name of the directory was mostly the issue (root):
> [Profiles]
> path = /home/e-smith/files/samba/profiles
> writeable = yes
> browseable = no
> create mask = 0600
> directory mask = 0700
> csc policy = disable
> hide files = /desktop.ini/ntuser.ini/NTUSER.*/
>
> [netlogon]
> comment = Network Logon Service
> path = /home/e-smith/files/samba/netlogon
> guest ok = yes
> writable = yes
> browseable = no
>
> SME server uses a bunch of templates and has a system for building the
> smb.conf file that I'm still learning how to use such as:
>
> db configuration setprop smb RecycleBin enabled
> db configuration setprop smb KeepVersions enabled
> signal-event group-modify shared
> signal-event group-modify domain-admins
> signal-event group-modify domain-users
>
> I really hate using a bleeding edge version but I'll make it work :)
> JD
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:39, Eric Shubert  wrote:
>>
>> What are the permissions in your smb.conf file?
>>
>> (check logon path and [Profiles] in particular)
>>
>
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Re: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-08-26 Thread JD Austin
The netlogon doesn't have permissions listed but profiles does; it seems the
group name of the directory was mostly the issue (root):
[Profiles]
path = /home/e-smith/files/samba/profiles
writeable = yes
browseable = no
create mask = 0600
directory mask = 0700
csc policy = disable
hide files = /desktop.ini/ntuser.ini/NTUSER.*/

[netlogon]
comment = Network Logon Service
path = /home/e-smith/files/samba/netlogon
guest ok = yes
writable = yes
browseable = no

SME server uses a bunch of templates and has a system for building the
smb.conf file that I'm still learning how to use such as:

db configuration setprop smb RecycleBin enabled
db configuration setprop smb KeepVersions enabled
signal-event group-modify shared
signal-event group-modify domain-admins
signal-event group-modify domain-users


I really hate using a bleeding edge version but I'll make it work :)
JD

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:39, Eric Shubert  wrote:

> What are the permissions in your smb.conf file?
>
> (check logon path and [Profiles] in particular)
>
>
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Re: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-08-26 Thread Eric Shubert

What are the permissions in your smb.conf file?

(check logon path and [Profiles] in particular)

JD Austin wrote:
I think it is due to file/group permissions on SME Server but haven't 
locked it down yet (haven't turned server over to users yet thankfully). 
 I had to load the latest bleeding edge version (shudder) because 7.5.1 
won't let Windows 7 log into the domain.

It is currently giving this error on the windoze side:

Windows cannot locate the server copy of your roaming profile and is
attempting to log you on with your local profile. Changes to the
profile will not be copied to the server when you logoff. Possible
causes of this error include network problems or insufficient
security rights. If this problem persists, contact your network
administrator.   

DETAIL - The network name cannot be found. 


Windows cannot find the local profile and is logging you on with a
temporary profile. Changes you make to this profile will be lost
when you log off.


It doesn't happen for the admin user but I don't believe SME Server has 
the admin user on roaming profiles.  Samba errors make it look like a 
group/permission issue:


Samba errors in the log when I log in:
Aug 26 11:49:56 directory smbd[6413]: [2010/08/26 11:49:56,  0]
smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(1081)
Aug 26 11:49:56 directory smbd[6413]:  
'/home/e-smith/files/samba/profiles' does not exist or permission

denied when connecting to [Profiles] Error was Permission denied
Aug 26 11:49:56 directory smbd[6413]: [2010/08/26 11:49:56,  0]
smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(1081)
Aug 26 11:49:56 directory smbd[6413]:  
'/home/e-smith/files/samba/profiles' does not exist or permission

denied when connecting to [Profiles] Error was Permission denied
Aug 26 11:49:57 directory smbd[6413]: [2010/08/26 11:49:57,  0]
smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(1081)
Aug 26 11:49:57 directory smbd[6413]:  
'/home/e-smith/files/samba/profiles' does not exist or permission

denied when connecting to [Profiles] Error was Permission denied
Aug 26 11:50:14 directory smbd[6413]: [2010/08/26 11:50:14,  0]
smbd/service.c:m
ake_connection_snum(1081)
Aug 26 11:50:14 directory smbd[6413]:  
'/home/e-smith/files/samba/netlogon' doe

s not exist or permission denied when connecting to [netlogon] Error
was Permission denied
Aug 26 11:50:15 directory smbd[6413]: [2010/08/26 11:50:15,  0]
smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(1081)
Aug 26 11:50:15 directory smbd[6413]:  
'/home/e-smith/files/users/jd/home' does not exist or permission

denied when connecting to [jd] Error was Permission denied
Aug 26 11:50:15 directory smbd[6413]: [2010/08/26 11:50:15,  0]
smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(1081)
Aug 26 11:50:15 directory smbd[6413]:  
'/home/e-smith/files/users/jd/home' does not exist or permission

denied when connecting to [jd] Error was Permission denied
Aug 26 11:50:16 directory smbd[6413]: [2010/08/26 11:50:16,  0]
smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(1081)
Aug 26 11:50:16 directory smbd[6413]:  
'/home/e-smith/files/samba/netlogon' does not exist or permission

denied when connecting to [netlogon] Error was Permission denied


Permissions look good to me  ?!?! :
[r...@directory ~]# ls -la /home/e-smith/files/samba/ 
drwxrwxr-x 19 admin shared 4096 Aug 24 18:35 profiles


I am in that group:
[r...@directory ~]# grep shared /etc/group
shared:x:500:www,admin,public,betty,bill,heidy.lavoix,nancy.fernandez,kajia.pete
rs,zhan.lui,jason.brooke,unprivledged,allusers,afls,*_jd_*

Just for grins I changed the group ownership on /home/e-smith/files from 
root.root to root.shared and I don't get that error when logging in.  

I do however still get theses errors: 


Aug 26 11:57:02 directory smbd[6442]: [2010/08/26 11:57:02,  0]
smbd/service.c:set_current_service(191)
Aug 26 11:57:02 directory smbd[6442]:   chdir
(/home/e-smith/files/samba/netlogon) failed
Aug 26 11:57:04 directory smbd[6442]: [2010/08/26 11:57:04,  0]
smbd/service.c:set_current_service(191)
Aug 26 11:57:04 directory smbd[6442]:   chdir
(/home/e-smith/files/samba/netlogon) failed
Aug 26 11:57:04 directory smbd[6442]: [2010/08/26 11:57:04,  0]
smbd/service.c:set_current_service(191)
Aug 26 11:57:04 directory smbd[6442]:   chdir
(/home/e-smith/files/samba/netlogon) failed


So.. lets try chmod 2750 /home/e-smith/files/samba/*  (found those perms 
online somewhere)

*I think I might have fixed it :)  No errors on either side!*
Hopefully next time I load SME Server it will just work :)

JD
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:30, Eric Shubert > wrote:


Thanks, JD. I seem to remember that now, but missed it when I
reviewed the thread this morning.

Looks like 'Cherry' is doing some spammy postings. I hate that type
of noise. One of the reasons I dislike

Re: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-08-26 Thread JD Austin
I think it is due to file/group permissions on SME Server but haven't locked
it down yet (haven't turned server over to users yet thankfully).  I had to
load the latest bleeding edge version (shudder) because 7.5.1 won't let
Windows 7 log into the domain.
It is currently giving this error on the windoze side:

Windows cannot locate the server copy of your roaming profile and is
attempting to log you on with your local profile. Changes to the profile
will not be copied to the server when you logoff. Possible causes of this
error include network problems or insufficient security rights. If this
problem persists, contact your network administrator.

DETAIL - The network name cannot be found.

Windows cannot find the local profile and is logging you on with a temporary
profile. Changes you make to this profile will be lost when you log off.


It doesn't happen for the admin user but I don't believe SME Server has the
admin user on roaming profiles.  Samba errors make it look like a
group/permission issue:

Samba errors in the log when I log in:
Aug 26 11:49:56 directory smbd[6413]: [2010/08/26 11:49:56,  0]
smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(1081)
Aug 26 11:49:56 directory smbd[6413]:   '/home/e-smith/files/samba/profiles'
does not exist or permission denied when connecting to [Profiles] Error was
Permission denied
Aug 26 11:49:56 directory smbd[6413]: [2010/08/26 11:49:56,  0]
smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(1081)
Aug 26 11:49:56 directory smbd[6413]:   '/home/e-smith/files/samba/profiles'
does not exist or permission denied when connecting to [Profiles] Error was
Permission denied
Aug 26 11:49:57 directory smbd[6413]: [2010/08/26 11:49:57,  0]
smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(1081)
Aug 26 11:49:57 directory smbd[6413]:   '/home/e-smith/files/samba/profiles'
does not exist or permission denied when connecting to [Profiles] Error was
Permission denied
Aug 26 11:50:14 directory smbd[6413]: [2010/08/26 11:50:14,  0]
smbd/service.c:m
ake_connection_snum(1081)
Aug 26 11:50:14 directory smbd[6413]:   '/home/e-smith/files/samba/netlogon'
doe
s not exist or permission denied when connecting to [netlogon] Error was
Permission denied
Aug 26 11:50:15 directory smbd[6413]: [2010/08/26 11:50:15,  0]
smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(1081)
Aug 26 11:50:15 directory smbd[6413]:   '/home/e-smith/files/users/jd/home'
does not exist or permission denied when connecting to [jd] Error was
Permission denied
Aug 26 11:50:15 directory smbd[6413]: [2010/08/26 11:50:15,  0]
smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(1081)
Aug 26 11:50:15 directory smbd[6413]:   '/home/e-smith/files/users/jd/home'
does not exist or permission denied when connecting to [jd] Error was
Permission denied
Aug 26 11:50:16 directory smbd[6413]: [2010/08/26 11:50:16,  0]
smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(1081)
Aug 26 11:50:16 directory smbd[6413]:   '/home/e-smith/files/samba/netlogon'
does not exist or permission denied when connecting to [netlogon] Error was
Permission denied


Permissions look good to me  ?!?! :
[r...@directory ~]# ls -la /home/e-smith/files/samba/
drwxrwxr-x 19 admin shared 4096 Aug 24 18:35 profiles

I am in that group:
[r...@directory ~]# grep shared /etc/group
shared:x:500:www,admin,public,betty,bill,heidy.lavoix,nancy.fernandez,kajia.pete
rs,zhan.lui,jason.brooke,unprivledged,allusers,afls,*jd*

Just for grins I changed the group ownership on /home/e-smith/files from
root.root to root.shared and I don't get that error when logging in.

I do however still get theses errors:

Aug 26 11:57:02 directory smbd[6442]: [2010/08/26 11:57:02,  0]
smbd/service.c:set_current_service(191)
Aug 26 11:57:02 directory smbd[6442]:   chdir
(/home/e-smith/files/samba/netlogon) failed
Aug 26 11:57:04 directory smbd[6442]: [2010/08/26 11:57:04,  0]
smbd/service.c:set_current_service(191)
Aug 26 11:57:04 directory smbd[6442]:   chdir
(/home/e-smith/files/samba/netlogon) failed
Aug 26 11:57:04 directory smbd[6442]: [2010/08/26 11:57:04,  0]
smbd/service.c:set_current_service(191)
Aug 26 11:57:04 directory smbd[6442]:   chdir
(/home/e-smith/files/samba/netlogon) failed


So.. lets try chmod 2750 /home/e-smith/files/samba/*  (found those perms
online somewhere)
*I think I might have fixed it :)  No errors on either side!*
Hopefully next time I load SME Server it will just work :)

JD
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:30, Eric Shubert  wrote:
>
> Thanks, JD. I seem to remember that now, but missed it when I reviewed the
> thread this morning.
>
> Looks like 'Cherry' is doing some spammy postings. I hate that type of
> noise. One of the reasons I dislike google groups.
>
> Anyhow, what's your problem with roaming?
>
> I've got redirection working on selected profile folders via NTConfig.POL
> (speeds up logging on/off tremendously), and the profiles out from under
> home, so homes are handled by dfs. All user data (including redirections) is
> now on a 2nd samba file server, except for the remaining profile folders.
> I'm getting permissions error (profile ownersh

Re: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-08-26 Thread Eric Shubert

JD Austin wrote:





On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:06, Eric Shubert > wrote:


Bryan O'Neal wrote:

As stated in a recent thread there seems to be a substantial lack of
decent windows admin groups.  Particularly ones with the culture we
enjoy here. The solution - start one. I know a dozen or so
people here
who are forced to admin windows boxes and would like a collective
support group like what we have for plug. The next questions is
do we
have
1) Support - I am not founding another insta-dead group. The
world has
too many already
2) Name - How does MAUG sound - Microsoft Admin Users Group. The
Maug
are a group of islands in southeast asia near Japan.

If I get more then 10 responses I will have the mailing list and a
elchepo web page up tonight. After which I will start garnering
support from the windows community so we can get a few hundred
active
members into the fold as quickly as possible

Let me know


Did anything materialize regarding this?

I'm presently wrestling with a little samba roaming profile problem.
I expect the problem is my lack of windows knowledge, and such a
group would be useful.

I don't think the group would necessarily need meetings. I'm just
looking for a mailing list. I could host the mailing list I suppose,
provided that I could find someone to provide a mail relay for
sending messages (I'm limited in that capacity, as I'm on a dynamic
IP address).

-- 
-Eric 'shubes'



I'm fighting a roaming profile issue right now also in SME Server.
The mailing list is a google group: wa...@googlegroups.com 





Thanks, JD. I seem to remember that now, but missed it when I reviewed 
the thread this morning.


Looks like 'Cherry' is doing some spammy postings. I hate that type of 
noise. One of the reasons I dislike google groups.


Anyhow, what's your problem with roaming?

I've got redirection working on selected profile folders via 
NTConfig.POL (speeds up logging on/off tremendously), and the profiles 
out from under home, so homes are handled by dfs. All user data 
(including redirections) is now on a 2nd samba file server, except for 
the remaining profile folders. I'm getting permissions error (profile 
ownership) when logging on when I try to use profiles on the 2nd samba 
server.


--
-Eric 'shubes'

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Re: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-08-26 Thread JD Austin
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:06, Eric Shubert  wrote:

> Bryan O'Neal wrote:
>
>> As stated in a recent thread there seems to be a substantial lack of
>> decent windows admin groups.  Particularly ones with the culture we
>> enjoy here. The solution - start one. I know a dozen or so people here
>> who are forced to admin windows boxes and would like a collective
>> support group like what we have for plug. The next questions is do we
>> have
>> 1) Support - I am not founding another insta-dead group. The world has
>> too many already
>> 2) Name - How does MAUG sound - Microsoft Admin Users Group. The Maug
>> are a group of islands in southeast asia near Japan.
>>
>> If I get more then 10 responses I will have the mailing list and a
>> elchepo web page up tonight. After which I will start garnering
>> support from the windows community so we can get a few hundred active
>> members into the fold as quickly as possible
>>
>> Let me know
>>
>
> Did anything materialize regarding this?
>
> I'm presently wrestling with a little samba roaming profile problem. I
> expect the problem is my lack of windows knowledge, and such a group would
> be useful.
>
> I don't think the group would necessarily need meetings. I'm just looking
> for a mailing list. I could host the mailing list I suppose, provided that I
> could find someone to provide a mail relay for sending messages (I'm limited
> in that capacity, as I'm on a dynamic IP address).
>
> --
> -Eric 'shubes'
>
>
I'm fighting a roaming profile issue right now also in SME Server.
The mailing list is a google group: wa...@googlegroups.com
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Re: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-08-26 Thread Stephen
A google group called wagit i think was started

On Aug 26, 2010 10:06 AM, "Eric Shubert"  wrote:

Bryan O'Neal wrote:

> As stated in a recent thread there seems to be a substantial lack of
> decent windows admin groups.  Particularly ones with the culture we
> enjoy here. The solution - start one. I know a dozen or so people here
> who are forced to admin windows boxes and would like a collective
> support group like what we have for plug. The next questions is do we
> have
> 1) Support - I am not founding another insta-dead group. The world has
> too many already
> 2) Name - How does MAUG sound - Microsoft Admin Users Group. The Maug
> are a group of islands in southeast asia near Japan.
>
> If I get more then 10 responses I will have the mailing list and a
> elchepo web page up tonight. After which I will start garnering
> support from the windows community so we can get a few hundred active
> members into the fold as quickly as possible
>
> Let me know
>

Did anything materialize regarding this?

I'm presently wrestling with a little samba roaming profile problem. I
expect the problem is my lack of windows knowledge, and such a group would
be useful.

I don't think the group would necessarily need meetings. I'm just looking
for a mailing list. I could host the mailing list I suppose, provided that I
could find someone to provide a mail relay for sending messages (I'm limited
in that capacity, as I'm on a dynamic IP address).

-- 
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Re: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-08-26 Thread Eric Shubert

Bryan O'Neal wrote:

As stated in a recent thread there seems to be a substantial lack of
decent windows admin groups.  Particularly ones with the culture we
enjoy here. The solution - start one. I know a dozen or so people here
who are forced to admin windows boxes and would like a collective
support group like what we have for plug. The next questions is do we
have
1) Support - I am not founding another insta-dead group. The world has
too many already
2) Name - How does MAUG sound - Microsoft Admin Users Group. The Maug
are a group of islands in southeast asia near Japan.

If I get more then 10 responses I will have the mailing list and a
elchepo web page up tonight. After which I will start garnering
support from the windows community so we can get a few hundred active
members into the fold as quickly as possible

Let me know


Did anything materialize regarding this?

I'm presently wrestling with a little samba roaming profile problem. I 
expect the problem is my lack of windows knowledge, and such a group 
would be useful.


I don't think the group would necessarily need meetings. I'm just 
looking for a mailing list. I could host the mailing list I suppose, 
provided that I could find someone to provide a mail relay for sending 
messages (I'm limited in that capacity, as I'm on a dynamic IP address).


--
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RE: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-05-19 Thread Joseph King
I as well.

 

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Gold
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 11:30 PM
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Subject: Re: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

 

+1. thanks

2010/5/18 G Gambill 

Sign me up also.

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:23 PM, mike Enriquez  wrote:

Sign me I'll join your new group.
Mike










On 05/17/2010 08:20 AM, Jared Shapiro wrote:

Sign me up for the MAUG !  js

-Original Message-
From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
[mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Bryan
O'Neal
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 1:30 PM
To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

As stated in a recent thread there seems to be a substantial lack of
decent windows admin groups.  Particularly ones with the culture we
enjoy here. The solution - start one. I know a dozen or so people here
who are forced to admin windows boxes and would like a collective
support group like what we have for plug. The next questions is do we
have
1) Support - I am not founding another insta-dead group. The world has
too many already
2) Name - How does MAUG sound - Microsoft Admin Users Group. The Maug
are a group of islands in southeast asia near Japan.

If I get more then 10 responses I will have the mailing list and a
elchepo web page up tonight. After which I will start garnering
support from the windows community so we can get a few hundred active
members into the fold as quickly as possible

Let me know
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Re: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-05-19 Thread JD Austin
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 05:40, Michael Havens  wrote:

> I'd like to see that paper If I could.
>
>
> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Technomage 
> wrote:
>
> recently had to do a simple write up
>> of how to remove malware for a friend of mine back east.
>>
>> There is a pretty good procedure here:
http://forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=35407
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Re: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-05-19 Thread walter tocalini
sign me up
thanks

walter

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Ariel Gold  wrote:

> +1. thanks
>
> 2010/5/18 G Gambill 
>
> Sign me up also.
>>
>> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:23 PM, mike Enriquez  wrote:
>>
>>> Sign me I'll join your new group.
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 05/17/2010 08:20 AM, Jared Shapiro wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sign me up for the MAUG !  js
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:
>>>> plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Bryan
>>>> O'Neal
>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 1:30 PM
>>>> To: Main PLUG discussion list
>>>> Subject: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group
>>>>
>>>> As stated in a recent thread there seems to be a substantial lack of
>>>> decent windows admin groups.  Particularly ones with the culture we
>>>> enjoy here. The solution - start one. I know a dozen or so people here
>>>> who are forced to admin windows boxes and would like a collective
>>>> support group like what we have for plug. The next questions is do we
>>>> have
>>>> 1) Support - I am not founding another insta-dead group. The world has
>>>> too many already
>>>> 2) Name - How does MAUG sound - Microsoft Admin Users Group. The Maug
>>>> are a group of islands in southeast asia near Japan.
>>>>
>>>> If I get more then 10 responses I will have the mailing list and a
>>>> elchepo web page up tonight. After which I will start garnering
>>>> support from the windows community so we can get a few hundred active
>>>> members into the fold as quickly as possible
>>>>
>>>> Let me know
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Re: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-05-19 Thread Michael Havens
I'd like to see that paper If I could.

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Technomage wrote:

recently had to do a simple write up
> of how to remove malware for a friend of mine back east.
>
>
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Re: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-05-18 Thread JD Austin
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 22:14, Technomage wrote:

> put me on board as well. I have to work with 3 OS's here at home
> (linux windows  and OS X) and recently had to do a simple write
> up
> of how to remove malware for a friend of mine back east.
>
>
> On 5/16/10 1:29 PM, Bryan O'Neal wrote:
>
>> As stated in a recent thread there seems to be a substantial lack of
>> decent windows admin groups.  Particularly ones with the culture we
>> enjoy here. The solution - start one. I know a dozen or so people here
>> who are forced to admin windows boxes and would like a collective
>> support group like what we have for plug. The next questions is do we
>> have
>> 1) Support - I am not founding another insta-dead group. The world has
>> too many already
>> 2) Name - How does MAUG sound - Microsoft Admin Users Group. The Maug
>> are a group of islands in southeast asia near Japan.
>>
>> If I get more then 10 responses I will have the mailing list and a
>> elchepo web page up tonight. After which I will start garnering
>> support from the windows community so we can get a few hundred active
>> members into the fold as quickly as possible
>>
>> Let me know
>>
>>
>
I fix windows issues on a weekly basis as much as I despise M$.  Count me in
too :)
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Re: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-05-18 Thread Technomage

put me on board as well. I have to work with 3 OS's here at home
(linux windows  and OS X) and recently had to do a simple 
write up

of how to remove malware for a friend of mine back east.

On 5/16/10 1:29 PM, Bryan O'Neal wrote:

As stated in a recent thread there seems to be a substantial lack of
decent windows admin groups.  Particularly ones with the culture we
enjoy here. The solution - start one. I know a dozen or so people here
who are forced to admin windows boxes and would like a collective
support group like what we have for plug. The next questions is do we
have
1) Support - I am not founding another insta-dead group. The world has
too many already
2) Name - How does MAUG sound - Microsoft Admin Users Group. The Maug
are a group of islands in southeast asia near Japan.

If I get more then 10 responses I will have the mailing list and a
elchepo web page up tonight. After which I will start garnering
support from the windows community so we can get a few hundred active
members into the fold as quickly as possible

Let me know
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Re: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-05-18 Thread Ariel Gold
+1. thanks

2010/5/18 G Gambill 

> Sign me up also.
>
> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:23 PM, mike Enriquez  wrote:
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>> Sign me I'll join your new group.
>> Mike
>>
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>>
>> On 05/17/2010 08:20 AM, Jared Shapiro wrote:
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>>> Sign me up for the MAUG !  js
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>>> From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:
>>> plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Bryan O'Neal
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 1:30 PM
>>> To: Main PLUG discussion list
>>> Subject: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group
>>>
>>> As stated in a recent thread there seems to be a substantial lack of
>>> decent windows admin groups.  Particularly ones with the culture we
>>> enjoy here. The solution - start one. I know a dozen or so people here
>>> who are forced to admin windows boxes and would like a collective
>>> support group like what we have for plug. The next questions is do we
>>> have
>>> 1) Support - I am not founding another insta-dead group. The world has
>>> too many already
>>> 2) Name - How does MAUG sound - Microsoft Admin Users Group. The Maug
>>> are a group of islands in southeast asia near Japan.
>>>
>>> If I get more then 10 responses I will have the mailing list and a
>>> elchepo web page up tonight. After which I will start garnering
>>> support from the windows community so we can get a few hundred active
>>> members into the fold as quickly as possible
>>>
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Re: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-05-18 Thread G Gambill
Sign me up also.

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:23 PM, mike Enriquez  wrote:

> Sign me I'll join your new group.
> Mike
>
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>
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>
> On 05/17/2010 08:20 AM, Jared Shapiro wrote:
>
>> Sign me up for the MAUG !  js
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:
>> plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Bryan O'Neal
>> Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 1:30 PM
>> To: Main PLUG discussion list
>> Subject: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group
>>
>> As stated in a recent thread there seems to be a substantial lack of
>> decent windows admin groups.  Particularly ones with the culture we
>> enjoy here. The solution - start one. I know a dozen or so people here
>> who are forced to admin windows boxes and would like a collective
>> support group like what we have for plug. The next questions is do we
>> have
>> 1) Support - I am not founding another insta-dead group. The world has
>> too many already
>> 2) Name - How does MAUG sound - Microsoft Admin Users Group. The Maug
>> are a group of islands in southeast asia near Japan.
>>
>> If I get more then 10 responses I will have the mailing list and a
>> elchepo web page up tonight. After which I will start garnering
>> support from the windows community so we can get a few hundred active
>> members into the fold as quickly as possible
>>
>> Let me know
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Re: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-05-17 Thread Bryan O'Neal
Will do ;)

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Tim Noeding  wrote:
> I'm linux only at home, but at work that's not the case. I am also always
> willing to learn, so if you kick this off please throw me an invite.
>
> from my DROID
>
> On May 17, 2010 9:23 PM, "mike Enriquez"  wrote:
>
> Sign me I'll join your new group.
> Mike
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> On 05/17/2010 08:20 AM, Jared Shapiro wrote:
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Re: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-05-17 Thread Tim Noeding
I'm linux only at home, but at work that's not the case. I am also always
willing to learn, so if you kick this off please throw me an invite.

from my DROID

On May 17, 2010 9:23 PM, "mike Enriquez"  wrote:

Sign me I'll join your new group.
Mike










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Re: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-05-17 Thread mike Enriquez

Sign me I'll join your new group.
Mike








On 05/17/2010 08:20 AM, Jared Shapiro wrote:

Sign me up for the MAUG !  js

-Original Message-
From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us 
[mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Bryan O'Neal
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 1:30 PM
To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

As stated in a recent thread there seems to be a substantial lack of
decent windows admin groups.  Particularly ones with the culture we
enjoy here. The solution - start one. I know a dozen or so people here
who are forced to admin windows boxes and would like a collective
support group like what we have for plug. The next questions is do we
have
1) Support - I am not founding another insta-dead group. The world has
too many already
2) Name - How does MAUG sound - Microsoft Admin Users Group. The Maug
are a group of islands in southeast asia near Japan.

If I get more then 10 responses I will have the mailing list and a
elchepo web page up tonight. After which I will start garnering
support from the windows community so we can get a few hundred active
members into the fold as quickly as possible

Let me know
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Re: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-05-17 Thread AZ RUNE
Sign me up I have to work with Linux at one job and Windows at the other
both would serve me great so let's do this.

Brian

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Stephen  wrote:

> Honestly OS's are tools you use the one that best suits your needs. I love
> linux for allot fo things and it gets better every day, but there are some
> things i deal with that require windows.
>
> Ill join the windows group
>
> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 12:06 PM, keith smith wrote:
>
>>
>> I don't know if I have anything to offer, however I open do have Win
>> questions.  I have both Win and Linux in my home office.  The combo serves
>> me well.  Please no flames.
>>
>> 
>> Keith Smith
>>
>> --- On *Mon, 5/17/10, Jared Shapiro * wrote:
>>
>>
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Re: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-05-17 Thread Stephen
Honestly OS's are tools you use the one that best suits your needs. I love
linux for allot fo things and it gets better every day, but there are some
things i deal with that require windows.

Ill join the windows group

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 12:06 PM, keith smith  wrote:

>
> I don't know if I have anything to offer, however I open do have Win
> questions.  I have both Win and Linux in my home office.  The combo serves
> me well.  Please no flames.
>
> 
> Keith Smith
>
> --- On *Mon, 5/17/10, Jared Shapiro * wrote:
>
>
> --
A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from
rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.

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Re: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-05-17 Thread Bryan O'Neal
The combo servers many of us well. For a lot of us we are in a windows
dominate work place and are doing our best to intergrate linux. This is why
I wanted to start a windows group for people like us.  If I get about 5 more
people I will start the group and we can start a windows admin recruitment
with us plugers as a cultural base.

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 12:06 PM, keith smith  wrote:

>
> I don't know if I have anything to offer, however I open do have Win
> questions.  I have both Win and Linux in my home office.  The combo serves
> me well.  Please no flames.
>
> 
> Keith Smith
>
> --- On *Mon, 5/17/10, Jared Shapiro * wrote:
>
>
> From: Jared Shapiro 
> Subject: RE: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
> Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 8:20 AM
>
>
> Sign me up for the MAUG !  js
>
> -Original Message-
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> plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us<http://mc/compose?to=plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>[mailto:
> plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us<http://mc/compose?to=plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>]
> On Behalf Of Bryan O'Neal
> Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 1:30 PM
> To: Main PLUG discussion list
> Subject: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group
>
> As stated in a recent thread there seems to be a substantial lack of
> decent windows admin groups.  Particularly ones with the culture we
> enjoy here. The solution - start one. I know a dozen or so people here
> who are forced to admin windows boxes and would like a collective
> support group like what we have for plug. The next questions is do we
> have
> 1) Support - I am not founding another insta-dead group. The world has
> too many already
> 2) Name - How does MAUG sound - Microsoft Admin Users Group. The Maug
> are a group of islands in southeast asia near Japan.
>
> If I get more then 10 responses I will have the mailing list and a
> elchepo web page up tonight. After which I will start garnering
> support from the windows community so we can get a few hundred active
> members into the fold as quickly as possible
>
> Let me know
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RE: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-05-17 Thread keith smith

I don't know if I have anything to offer, however I open do have Win 
questions.  I have both Win and Linux in my home office.  The combo serves me 
well.  Please no flames. 



Keith Smith

--- On Mon, 5/17/10, Jared Shapiro  wrote:

From: Jared Shapiro 
Subject: RE: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group
To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 8:20 AM

Sign me up for the MAUG !  js

-Original Message-
From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us 
[mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Bryan O'Neal
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 1:30 PM
To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

As stated in a recent thread there seems to be a substantial lack of
decent windows admin groups.  Particularly ones with the culture we
enjoy here. The solution - start one. I know a dozen or so people here
who are forced to admin windows boxes and would like a collective
support group like what we have for plug. The next questions is do we
have
1) Support - I am not founding another insta-dead group. The world has
too many already
2) Name - How does MAUG sound - Microsoft Admin Users Group. The Maug
are a group of islands in southeast asia near Japan.

If I get more then 10 responses I will have the mailing list and a
elchepo web page up tonight. After which I will start garnering
support from the windows community so we can get a few hundred active
members into the fold as quickly as possible

Let me know
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Re: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-05-17 Thread joe

How about WAG for win admin group?

I cringe every time I see the name microslop



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RE: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-05-17 Thread Jared Shapiro
Sign me up for the MAUG !  js

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Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 1:30 PM
To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

As stated in a recent thread there seems to be a substantial lack of
decent windows admin groups.  Particularly ones with the culture we
enjoy here. The solution - start one. I know a dozen or so people here
who are forced to admin windows boxes and would like a collective
support group like what we have for plug. The next questions is do we
have
1) Support - I am not founding another insta-dead group. The world has
too many already
2) Name - How does MAUG sound - Microsoft Admin Users Group. The Maug
are a group of islands in southeast asia near Japan.

If I get more then 10 responses I will have the mailing list and a
elchepo web page up tonight. After which I will start garnering
support from the windows community so we can get a few hundred active
members into the fold as quickly as possible

Let me know
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OT: Win: Starting a windows enterprise admin group

2010-05-16 Thread Bryan O'Neal
As stated in a recent thread there seems to be a substantial lack of
decent windows admin groups.  Particularly ones with the culture we
enjoy here. The solution - start one. I know a dozen or so people here
who are forced to admin windows boxes and would like a collective
support group like what we have for plug. The next questions is do we
have
1) Support - I am not founding another insta-dead group. The world has
too many already
2) Name - How does MAUG sound - Microsoft Admin Users Group. The Maug
are a group of islands in southeast asia near Japan.

If I get more then 10 responses I will have the mailing list and a
elchepo web page up tonight. After which I will start garnering
support from the windows community so we can get a few hundred active
members into the fold as quickly as possible

Let me know
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