Re: backup partition

2012-10-11 Thread Derek Trotter
I'll look into clonezilla and partimage later today.  Yesterday I was 
using the kde partition manager to resize the ntfs partition my xp 
install lived on.  Just my luck my linux install crashed.  It's kubuntu 
12.04.1 for amd64.  Naturally when I got the system restarted, the ntfs 
partition was gone. Thankfully testdisk did recover it, but it still 
won't boot. Right now I'm moving everything I want to keep off that ntfs 
partition.


After that's finished I'll nuke that partition, the only one on that 
hard drive.  In the next day or two when I get round to it I'll 
reinstall xp on a smaller partition  that will be just for xp and any 
programs I run on it.  A second partition on that drive will be for 
anything I want programs running on xp to have access to.


Now I have to decide whether to make that other partition ntfs or ext4 
and install a driver on xp that will allow it to see the ext4 
partition.  Which would be the better option?


thanks

On 10/10/2012 03:14 PM, Stephen wrote:

Partimage will do this for you. you can also look up clonezilla as it
is a bootable iso built around this process and some nice scripts to
make it easy to do.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Derek Trotterexpat.arizo...@gmail.com  wrote:

I'm looking for something on linux that would allow me to create image files
to back up partitions. I guess something along the lines of Norton Ghost.
I'm looking for something that's easy to use. Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks
Derek

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Re: backup partition

2012-10-11 Thread Lisa Kachold
Run XP in VirtualBox on Linux.
On 11 Oct 2012 01:27, Derek Trotter expat.arizo...@gmail.com wrote:

  I'll look into clonezilla and partimage later today.  Yesterday I was
 using the kde partition manager to resize the ntfs partition my xp install
 lived on.  Just my luck my linux install crashed.  It's kubuntu 12.04.1 for
 amd64.  Naturally when I got the system restarted, the ntfs partition was
 gone.  Thankfully testdisk did recover it, but it still won't boot.  Right
 now I'm moving everything I want to keep off that ntfs partition.

 After that's finished I'll nuke that partition, the only one on that hard
 drive.  In the next day or two when I get round to it I'll reinstall xp on
 a smaller partition  that will be just for xp and any programs I run on
 it.  A second partition on that drive will be for anything I want programs
 running on xp to have access to.

 Now I have to decide whether to make that other partition ntfs or ext4 and
 install a driver on xp that will allow it to see the ext4 partition.  Which
 would be the better option?

 thanks

  On 10/10/2012 03:14 PM, Stephen wrote:

 Partimage will do this for you. you can also look up clonezilla as it
 is a bootable iso built around this process and some nice scripts to
 make it easy to do.

 On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Derek Trotter expat.arizo...@gmail.com 
 expat.arizo...@gmail.com wrote:

  I'm looking for something on linux that would allow me to create image files
 to back up partitions. I guess something along the lines of Norton Ghost.
 I'm looking for something that's easy to use. Does anyone have any ideas?

 Thanks
 Derek

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Re: backup partition

2012-10-11 Thread JD Austin
That's what I do... it is the best of both worlds.  Seamless mode is
pretty cool though I usually have it full screen on my second screen.
I converted a KVM (proxmox) to run in virtualbox recently because I
wanted USB support.  Anyway... I second the Virtualbox recommendation.
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com wrote:
 Run XP in VirtualBox on Linux.

 On 11 Oct 2012 01:27, Derek Trotter expat.arizo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'll look into clonezilla and partimage later today.  Yesterday I was
 using the kde partition manager to resize the ntfs partition my xp install
 lived on.  Just my luck my linux install crashed.  It's kubuntu 12.04.1 for
 amd64.  Naturally when I got the system restarted, the ntfs partition was
 gone.  Thankfully testdisk did recover it, but it still won't boot.  Right
 now I'm moving everything I want to keep off that ntfs partition.

 After that's finished I'll nuke that partition, the only one on that hard
 drive.  In the next day or two when I get round to it I'll reinstall xp on a
 smaller partition  that will be just for xp and any programs I run on it.  A
 second partition on that drive will be for anything I want programs running
 on xp to have access to.

 Now I have to decide whether to make that other partition ntfs or ext4 and
 install a driver on xp that will allow it to see the ext4 partition.  Which
 would be the better option?

 thanks

 On 10/10/2012 03:14 PM, Stephen wrote:

 Partimage will do this for you. you can also look up clonezilla as it
 is a bootable iso built around this process and some nice scripts to
 make it easy to do.

 On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Derek Trotter expat.arizo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I'm looking for something on linux that would allow me to create image
 files
 to back up partitions. I guess something along the lines of Norton Ghost.
 I'm looking for something that's easy to use. Does anyone have any ideas?

 Thanks
 Derek

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Re: backup partition

2012-10-11 Thread Derek Trotter
Thanks Lisa.  I thought about what you suggested, but I tried a couple 
of years ago and xp ran ok, but the games I tried to play on it didn't 
run right.  Has virtualbox improved 3d support over the last couple of 
years?


On 10/11/2012 10:08 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote:


Run XP in VirtualBox on Linux.

On 11 Oct 2012 01:27, Derek Trotter expat.arizo...@gmail.com 
mailto:expat.arizo...@gmail.com wrote:


I'll look into clonezilla and partimage later today. Yesterday I
was using the kde partition manager to resize the ntfs partition
my xp install lived on.  Just my luck my linux install crashed. 
It's kubuntu 12.04.1 for amd64.  Naturally when I got the system

restarted, the ntfs partition was gone.  Thankfully testdisk did
recover it, but it still won't boot.  Right now I'm moving
everything I want to keep off that ntfs partition.

After that's finished I'll nuke that partition, the only one on
that hard drive.  In the next day or two when I get round to it
I'll reinstall xp on a smaller partition  that will be just for xp
and any programs I run on it.  A second partition on that drive
will be for anything I want programs running on xp to have access to.

Now I have to decide whether to make that other partition ntfs or
ext4 and install a driver on xp that will allow it to see the ext4
partition.  Which would be the better option?

thanks

On 10/10/2012 03:14 PM, Stephen wrote:

Partimage will do this for you. you can also look up clonezilla as it
is a bootable iso built around this process and some nice scripts to
make it easy to do.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Derek Trotterexpat.arizo...@gmail.com  
mailto:expat.arizo...@gmail.com  wrote:

I'm looking for something on linux that would allow me to create image files
to back up partitions. I guess something along the lines of Norton Ghost.
I'm looking for something that's easy to use. Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks
Derek

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Re: backup partition

2012-10-11 Thread Stephen
Sadly Virtualbox can only allocare a maximum of 256mb ram to a VM for
3d acceleration, and it passes very minimal openGL. this looks great
fro most things except most gaming.

But there is hope on the horizon, Intel's VTd is making some good
inroads to what we are after.

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Derek Trotter expat.arizo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Lisa.  I thought about what you suggested, but I tried a couple of
 years ago and xp ran ok, but the games I tried to play on it didn't run
 right.  Has virtualbox improved 3d support over the last couple of years?

 On 10/11/2012 10:08 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote:

 Run XP in VirtualBox on Linux.

*Snip*


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backup partition

2012-10-10 Thread Derek Trotter
I'm looking for something on linux that would allow me to create image 
files to back up partitions. I guess something along the lines of Norton 
Ghost. I'm looking for something that's easy to use. Does anyone have 
any ideas?


Thanks
Derek

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Re: backup partition

2012-10-10 Thread Wayne Davis

On 10/10/2012 01:25 PM, Derek Trotter wrote:
I'm looking for something on linux that would allow me to create image 
files to back up partitions. I guess something along the lines of 
Norton Ghost. I'm looking for something that's easy to use. Does 
anyone have any ideas?


Thanks
Derek


Take a look at PARTIMAGE   chk it out  in your repositories
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Re: backup partition

2012-10-10 Thread kitepi...@kitepilot.com
dd if=/dev/sdXY of=my_backup 


Recover with:
dd if=my_backup of=if=/dev/sdXY 


I'd go with tar though.
Simple and bulletproof...
ET 




Derek Trotter writes: 

I'm looking for something on linux that would allow me to create image 
files to back up partitions. I guess something along the lines of Norton 
Ghost. I'm looking for something that's easy to use. Does anyone have any 
ideas? 


Thanks
Derek 


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Re: backup partition

2012-10-10 Thread Matt Graham
 Derek Trotter writes: 
 I'm looking for something on linux that would allow me to create
 image files to back up partitions.
From: kitepi...@kitepilot.com kitepi...@kitepilot.com
 dd if=/dev/sdXY of=my_backup 
 Recover with:  dd if=my_backup of=if=/dev/sdXY 
 I'd go with tar though.  Simple and bulletproof...

tar is not appropriate for the general case.  There are things that tar cannot
back up and restore properly, like files which have absolute sector positions
and filesystem metadata that tar doesn't know about.  You find those things on
NTFS partitions, HFS+ partitions, /boot when LILO is being used, and the slack
space between the boot record and the start of the first partition when GRUB
is being used.

dd will *work* for the general case, but it's inefficient, especially the way
you wrote the commands above.  dd copies every block, including those blocks
that don't need to be copied.  Since you left the bs= off, it also uses a
block size of 512 bytes, when you should be using bs=32k or bs=64k.  partimage
knows enough about most filesystems to only copy the blocks that are actually
in use, and to retain sector position info.  partimage also has an ncurses
interface, which is a little better-looking and more friendly than dd.

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