Re: descend the network tree

2012-01-30 Thread Michael Havens
thanks for the help. ssh is what I was looking for to descend it from my
home network. why do you recomend 'sshfs' over 'ssh'? now. suppose I'm
trying to connect to it from a computer outside of the 192.168.x.y network.
what tool would I use then?

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Re: descend the network tree

2012-01-30 Thread kitepi...@kitepilot.com

why do you recomend 'sshfs' over 'ssh'
They are entirely different things. 


Look at sshfs as 'mount' (or NFS)
sshfs allows you to 'mount' a remote directory to a local path. 


Look at SSH alone as 'telnet'.
It allows you to open a remote terminal. 


They meet at the protocol level.
sshfs uses SSH as 'transport' 


In other words.
THe speak the same dialect, but are talking about entirely different 
subjects. 



Question number 2:
inside of the 192.168.x.y:
ssh myuser@192.168.x.y 


outside of the 192.168.x.y (say for example NNN.nnn.x.y)
ssh myu...@nnn.nnn.x.y 


If you were 'sshfs(ing)' then:
sshfs myuser@192.168.x.y:/remote/path /my/local/path
or outside
sshfs myu...@nnn.nnn.x.y:/remote/path /my/local/path 


In other words:
The address is a matter for the routing protocol to resolve, if the address 
can be routed, and the SSH server is listening, it will answer.
ET 




Michael Havens writes: 


thanks for the help. ssh is what I was looking for to descend it from my
home network. why do you recomend 'sshfs' over 'ssh'? now. suppose I'm
trying to connect to it from a computer outside of the 192.168.x.y network.
what tool would I use then? 


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Re: descend the network tree

2012-01-30 Thread Michael Havens
how do you do it over the internet m I guess you couldn't unless
your computer had a domain.. And then that goes back to a thread we had
running earlier (unless I'm mistaken).

On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 9:13 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com 
kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote:

 why do you recomend 'sshfs' over 'ssh'

 They are entirely different things.
 Look at sshfs as 'mount' (or NFS)
 sshfs allows you to 'mount' a remote directory to a local path.
 Look at SSH alone as 'telnet'.
 It allows you to open a remote terminal.
 They meet at the protocol level.
 sshfs uses SSH as 'transport'
 In other words.
 THe speak the same dialect, but are talking about entirely different
 subjects.

 Question number 2:
 inside of the 192.168.x.y:
 ssh myuser@192.168.x.y
 outside of the 192.168.x.y (say for example NNN.nnn.x.y)
 ssh myu...@nnn.nnn.x.y
 If you were 'sshfs(ing)' then:
 sshfs myuser@192.168.x.y:/remote/**path /my/local/path
 or outside
 sshfs myu...@nnn.nnn.x.y:/remote/**path /my/local/path
 In other words:
 The address is a matter for the routing protocol to resolve, if the
 address can be routed, and the SSH server is listening, it will answer.
 ET


 Michael Havens writes:

 thanks for the help. ssh is what I was looking for to descend it from my
 home network. why do you recomend 'sshfs' over 'ssh'? now. suppose I'm
 trying to connect to it from a computer outside of the 192.168.x.y
 network.
 what tool would I use then?
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Re: descend the network tree

2012-01-30 Thread kitepi...@kitepilot.com

Again:
SSH does not care where is at, or how to get to, the target IP address.
That's the task of routing protocols, nameserver protocols, and on and on 
and on.  Transporting the packets is the task of the TCP/IP protocol... 

If the IP is route-able, and the SSH server is listening, you will login 
for as long as you have the correct tokens.
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Michael Havens writes: 


how do you do it over the internet m I guess you couldn't unless
your computer had a domain.. And then that goes back to a thread we had
running earlier (unless I'm mistaken). 


On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 9:13 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com 
kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: 


why do you recomend 'sshfs' over 'ssh'



They are entirely different things.
Look at sshfs as 'mount' (or NFS)
sshfs allows you to 'mount' a remote directory to a local path.
Look at SSH alone as 'telnet'.
It allows you to open a remote terminal.
They meet at the protocol level.
sshfs uses SSH as 'transport'
In other words.
THe speak the same dialect, but are talking about entirely different
subjects. 


Question number 2:
inside of the 192.168.x.y:
ssh myuser@192.168.x.y
outside of the 192.168.x.y (say for example NNN.nnn.x.y)
ssh myu...@nnn.nnn.x.y
If you were 'sshfs(ing)' then:
sshfs myuser@192.168.x.y:/remote/**path /my/local/path
or outside
sshfs myu...@nnn.nnn.x.y:/remote/**path /my/local/path
In other words:
The address is a matter for the routing protocol to resolve, if the
address can be routed, and the SSH server is listening, it will answer.
ET 



Michael Havens writes: 


thanks for the help. ssh is what I was looking for to descend it from my
home network. why do you recomend 'sshfs' over 'ssh'? now. suppose I'm
trying to connect to it from a computer outside of the 192.168.x.y
network.
what tool would I use then?
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Re: descend the network tree

2012-01-28 Thread Lisa Kachold
Hi Michael,

On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 how do you descend your home network tree non-graphically?


$ find . -maxdepth 20

Files only; no directory:

$ find . -type f -maxdepth 20

Avoid the hidden files.

$ find . -type f -maxdepth 20 \( ! -iname .* \)

where is the device list of your network?


To get a list of all network devices, you can ping the broadcast:

   $ ping 192.168.1.255


Or you can run Nmap:

 $  nmap -PN 192.168.1.0/24

If you actually just want to get the device list for your machine only:

 $ ifconfig -a

where is everything mounted?


This can vary from distro to distro, and automounter.  /etc/fstab file will
show the mounted devices built at boot.
You can display all mounted devices via:

$ mount

A good utility for managing disk mounts in Ubuntu is pysdm:

 $ sudo apt-get install pysdm

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Re: descend the network tree

2012-01-28 Thread Matt Graham
From: Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com
 thank you lisa. not quite what i wanted to know but it is useful
 information. what I meant is how do you descend into other computers.
[snip]

I'll assume you meant find out what resources other computers are sharing
over the network there.

For SMB servers, smbclient -L MACHINE will show you all the network
filesystems, printers, and various other things that MACHINE is making
available via SMB.  You can use an IP address instead of a machine name too. 
You may need the -U username and -W workgroup options, depending on how the
remote machines are set up.

For NFS servers, showmount -e MACHINE should show you all the NFS
filesystems that MACHINE is making available.

For printers, the CUPS web interface shows quite a bit of info about many
modern printers hooked to a network, but I'm not sure how it gets that info. 
lpinfo might be what you're looking for.  Can't tell; I don't have a printer
at home.

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descend the network tree

2012-01-27 Thread Michael Havens
how do you descend your home network tree non-graphically?
where is the device list of your network?
where is everything mounted?
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Re: descend the network tree

2012-01-27 Thread James Mcphee
Give us some context here.  IP network, Windows network, what?

On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 how do you descend your home network tree non-graphically?
 where is the device list of your network?
 where is everything mounted?
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Re: descend the network tree

2012-01-27 Thread kitepi...@kitepilot.com

The line:
mount|grep -vE '^proc|^none|^fusectl|^gvfs-fuse-daemon|^binfmt_misc'
Will give you everything that is mounted. 


If you want to network/mount non-graphical, I suggest sshfs:
(if you can SSH, you can mount) 


sshfs user@remotebox:/path/I/want /home/my/local/path
YMMV...
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how do you descend your home network tree non-graphically?
where is the device list of your network?
where is everything mounted?
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Re: descend the network tree

2012-01-27 Thread Michael Havens
the ip network and the windows network. It appears that network things
aren't mounted the same way as everything else because Eriques command
didn't list anything I have mounted from the other computers.

On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 3:47 PM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Give us some context here.  IP network, Windows network, what?

 On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 how do you descend your home network tree non-graphically?
 where is the device list of your network?
 where is everything mounted?
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