Re: descend the network tree
thanks for the help. ssh is what I was looking for to descend it from my home network. why do you recomend 'sshfs' over 'ssh'? now. suppose I'm trying to connect to it from a computer outside of the 192.168.x.y network. what tool would I use then? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: descend the network tree
why do you recomend 'sshfs' over 'ssh' They are entirely different things. Look at sshfs as 'mount' (or NFS) sshfs allows you to 'mount' a remote directory to a local path. Look at SSH alone as 'telnet'. It allows you to open a remote terminal. They meet at the protocol level. sshfs uses SSH as 'transport' In other words. THe speak the same dialect, but are talking about entirely different subjects. Question number 2: inside of the 192.168.x.y: ssh myuser@192.168.x.y outside of the 192.168.x.y (say for example NNN.nnn.x.y) ssh myu...@nnn.nnn.x.y If you were 'sshfs(ing)' then: sshfs myuser@192.168.x.y:/remote/path /my/local/path or outside sshfs myu...@nnn.nnn.x.y:/remote/path /my/local/path In other words: The address is a matter for the routing protocol to resolve, if the address can be routed, and the SSH server is listening, it will answer. ET Michael Havens writes: thanks for the help. ssh is what I was looking for to descend it from my home network. why do you recomend 'sshfs' over 'ssh'? now. suppose I'm trying to connect to it from a computer outside of the 192.168.x.y network. what tool would I use then? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: descend the network tree
how do you do it over the internet m I guess you couldn't unless your computer had a domain.. And then that goes back to a thread we had running earlier (unless I'm mistaken). On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 9:13 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: why do you recomend 'sshfs' over 'ssh' They are entirely different things. Look at sshfs as 'mount' (or NFS) sshfs allows you to 'mount' a remote directory to a local path. Look at SSH alone as 'telnet'. It allows you to open a remote terminal. They meet at the protocol level. sshfs uses SSH as 'transport' In other words. THe speak the same dialect, but are talking about entirely different subjects. Question number 2: inside of the 192.168.x.y: ssh myuser@192.168.x.y outside of the 192.168.x.y (say for example NNN.nnn.x.y) ssh myu...@nnn.nnn.x.y If you were 'sshfs(ing)' then: sshfs myuser@192.168.x.y:/remote/**path /my/local/path or outside sshfs myu...@nnn.nnn.x.y:/remote/**path /my/local/path In other words: The address is a matter for the routing protocol to resolve, if the address can be routed, and the SSH server is listening, it will answer. ET Michael Havens writes: thanks for the help. ssh is what I was looking for to descend it from my home network. why do you recomend 'sshfs' over 'ssh'? now. suppose I'm trying to connect to it from a computer outside of the 192.168.x.y network. what tool would I use then? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discusshttp://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: descend the network tree
Again: SSH does not care where is at, or how to get to, the target IP address. That's the task of routing protocols, nameserver protocols, and on and on and on. Transporting the packets is the task of the TCP/IP protocol... If the IP is route-able, and the SSH server is listening, you will login for as long as you have the correct tokens. ET Michael Havens writes: how do you do it over the internet m I guess you couldn't unless your computer had a domain.. And then that goes back to a thread we had running earlier (unless I'm mistaken). On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 9:13 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote: why do you recomend 'sshfs' over 'ssh' They are entirely different things. Look at sshfs as 'mount' (or NFS) sshfs allows you to 'mount' a remote directory to a local path. Look at SSH alone as 'telnet'. It allows you to open a remote terminal. They meet at the protocol level. sshfs uses SSH as 'transport' In other words. THe speak the same dialect, but are talking about entirely different subjects. Question number 2: inside of the 192.168.x.y: ssh myuser@192.168.x.y outside of the 192.168.x.y (say for example NNN.nnn.x.y) ssh myu...@nnn.nnn.x.y If you were 'sshfs(ing)' then: sshfs myuser@192.168.x.y:/remote/**path /my/local/path or outside sshfs myu...@nnn.nnn.x.y:/remote/**path /my/local/path In other words: The address is a matter for the routing protocol to resolve, if the address can be routed, and the SSH server is listening, it will answer. ET Michael Havens writes: thanks for the help. ssh is what I was looking for to descend it from my home network. why do you recomend 'sshfs' over 'ssh'? now. suppose I'm trying to connect to it from a computer outside of the 192.168.x.y network. what tool would I use then? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --**- PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.usPLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discusshttp://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: descend the network tree
Hi Michael, On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: how do you descend your home network tree non-graphically? $ find . -maxdepth 20 Files only; no directory: $ find . -type f -maxdepth 20 Avoid the hidden files. $ find . -type f -maxdepth 20 \( ! -iname .* \) where is the device list of your network? To get a list of all network devices, you can ping the broadcast: $ ping 192.168.1.255 Or you can run Nmap: $ nmap -PN 192.168.1.0/24 If you actually just want to get the device list for your machine only: $ ifconfig -a where is everything mounted? This can vary from distro to distro, and automounter. /etc/fstab file will show the mounted devices built at boot. You can display all mounted devices via: $ mount A good utility for managing disk mounts in Ubuntu is pysdm: $ sudo apt-get install pysdm -- :-)~MIKE~(-: -- (503) 754-4452 Android (623) 239-3392 Skype (623) 688-3392 Google Voice ** HomeSmartInternational.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: descend the network tree
From: Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com thank you lisa. not quite what i wanted to know but it is useful information. what I meant is how do you descend into other computers. [snip] I'll assume you meant find out what resources other computers are sharing over the network there. For SMB servers, smbclient -L MACHINE will show you all the network filesystems, printers, and various other things that MACHINE is making available via SMB. You can use an IP address instead of a machine name too. You may need the -U username and -W workgroup options, depending on how the remote machines are set up. For NFS servers, showmount -e MACHINE should show you all the NFS filesystems that MACHINE is making available. For printers, the CUPS web interface shows quite a bit of info about many modern printers hooked to a network, but I'm not sure how it gets that info. lpinfo might be what you're looking for. Can't tell; I don't have a printer at home. -- Matt G / Dances With Crows The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
descend the network tree
how do you descend your home network tree non-graphically? where is the device list of your network? where is everything mounted? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: descend the network tree
Give us some context here. IP network, Windows network, what? On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: how do you descend your home network tree non-graphically? where is the device list of your network? where is everything mounted? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- James McPhee jmc...@gmail.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: descend the network tree
The line: mount|grep -vE '^proc|^none|^fusectl|^gvfs-fuse-daemon|^binfmt_misc' Will give you everything that is mounted. If you want to network/mount non-graphical, I suggest sshfs: (if you can SSH, you can mount) sshfs user@remotebox:/path/I/want /home/my/local/path YMMV... ET Michael Havens writes: how do you descend your home network tree non-graphically? where is the device list of your network? where is everything mounted? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: descend the network tree
the ip network and the windows network. It appears that network things aren't mounted the same way as everything else because Eriques command didn't list anything I have mounted from the other computers. On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 3:47 PM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com wrote: Give us some context here. IP network, Windows network, what? On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote: how do you descend your home network tree non-graphically? where is the device list of your network? where is everything mounted? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- James McPhee jmc...@gmail.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss