Re: etiquette nudge
Nor the deficit or the lack of a budget. Keith Smith --- On Sat, 7/16/11, Dan Lund situationalawaren...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lund situationalawaren...@gmail.com Subject: Re: etiquette nudge To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 9:19 PM Not once was President Obama, Medicare, or military spending mentioned ;) --Dan Lund On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com wrote: But not nearly as bad as political discussions and personal attacks... On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Dan Lund situationalawaren...@gmail.com wrote: Ranks right up there with the top/bottom post thing, huh? tongue-in-cheek --Dan Lund --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: etiquette nudge
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/14/2011 09:50 PM, Stephen wrote: I forget these things as gmail Tisha up allot automatically Voice recognition FAIL? ;-) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk4hx1kACgkQmzle50YHwaC4bgCfX//dwjRqdEG/EbZNfci6lMPg YG8AoLOm+IRYizxIHyMwLFVO3Ma2EfUG =iga7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: etiquette nudge
From: Thomas Cameron thomas.came...@camerontech.com On 07/14/2011 09:50 PM, Stephen wrote: I forget these things as gmail Tisha up allot automatically Voice recognition FAIL? ;-) iPhone-autocorrect typing detected? Cat-like typing detected? 7 margaritas-like typing detected? :-P -- Matt G / Dances With Crows The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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Epic android typeing detected On Jul 16, 2011 11:15 AM, Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.net wrote: From: Thomas Cameron thomas.came...@camerontech.com On 07/14/2011 09:50 PM, Stephen wrote: I forget these things as gmail Tisha up allot automatically Voice recognition FAIL? ;-) iPhone-autocorrect typing detected? Cat-like typing detected? 7 margaritas-like typing detected? :-P --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: etiquette nudge
Not once was President Obama, Medicare, or military spending mentioned ;) --Dan Lund On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com wrote: But not nearly as bad as political discussions and personal attacks... On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Dan Lund situationalawaren...@gmail.com wrote: Ranks right up there with the top/bottom post thing, huh? tongue-in-cheek --Dan Lund --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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-- Forwarded message -- From: Joseph Sinclair plug-discuss...@stcaz.net To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:47:12 -0700 Subject: Re: Looking for NAS Hardware Recommendations It's in the firmware zip file[1], something like FWUpdate.exe (they change the name sometimes). [1] http://www.buffalotech.com/support/getfile/ls_series-143.zip On 07/13/2011 08:55 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Joseph Sinclair plug-discuss...@stcaz.net wrote: The best suggestion I can make (other than waiting for acp_commander to get an update so it's able to open up the 1.43 firmware) is to use the Windows or Mac uploader to upload your modified firmware. I installed the Windows sw that came with the box on the CD, but there is no option there to upload a file. Is there another piece of software that is the Windows uploader? Where do I get it? Thanks, Mark On 07/13/2011 05:45 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Joseph Sinclair plug-discuss...@stcaz.net wrote: I missed the 1.43 part... Seems they've improved security. If you can get a shell prompt with acp_commander, try running whoami. If you're already root, then passwd -d root will clear the current password, and you can then set it to anything you like with passwd I get a shell prompt, but nothing seems to work. Every command returns 3 blank lines and a prompt. The only safe way to upload firmware is, unfortunately, a Windows or Mac binary that's included with the firmware update. That said, you can try http://buffalo.nas-central.org/wiki/Manually_flash_the_LinkStation%27s_firmwareifyou'rehttp://buffalo.nas-central.org/wiki/Manually_flash_the_LinkStation%27s_firmwareifyou%27rebrave. That looks good, but I cannot access /dev/fl1 from the telnet prompt I get. Nothing works at that prompt. You might also just try (from an acp_commander shell prompt) copying the ssh key (put it on a share first) from the array locally over to /root/.ssh/authorized_keys (make sure to check permissions after copying), then try ssh. Good idea, if I could just get telnet to work. Any thoughts on that? good luck. On 07/12/2011 09:59 PM, Joseph Sinclair wrote: You shouldn't need to change or upload firmware. acp_commander can reset the root password (If it can get a shell prompt it should be able to reset the password...) java -jar acp_commander.jar -t $YOUR_NAS_IP_ADDRESS -o That will clear the root password to nothing, allowing you to login via ssh or telnet as root with the (blank) password. You should be able to re-secure things from there (ideally drop an SSH key in for root, create a second account that can sudo and drop a key there as well, then lock the password for both to prevent password login and disable telnet). On 07/12/2011 02:25 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: Joeseph, One more issue, oh Great Buffalo NAS one;-) I started to work on rooting the device by following this http://buffalo.nas-central.org/wiki/Category:LS-WXL. First stumbling block is I have firmware 1.43. However, the zip key for 1.41 worked to unzip the firmware image. It turns out ssh is already enabled for root in 1.43, but one needs a password. It is not the same as the admin password. So, I set up an ssh key and put the disk image back together as described in the article. However, how do I get the LS-WXL beastie to gobble up the new firmware? The web access only allows firmware to be downloaded from Buffalo (no upload file dialog, just a button to update the firmware, which only goes to Buffalo to check on available updates, and then installs them), and the Windows software does not have an option to upload firmware, either. I can get in with acp_commander to the shell prompt, which seems to be a disguised telnet prompt, so I am not sure how to upload new firmware via that method. Anyway to get the root password from the device or the file system I downloaded so I can use that to ssh in and not have to replace the firmware? Thanks for any further suggestions you may have! Mark On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Joseph Sinclair plug-discuss...@stcaz.netwrote: rsync will preserve ownership if you set the option to do so (I don't recall the exact flag offhand). I actually prefer rsync over the Samba mount because cifs doesn't understand POSIX permissions. If you root the box you can certainly do the rsync over ssh, but on a local net native(uncompressed) rsync protocol is *immensely* faster because the little ARM chip in the NAS can't handle the ssh encrypt/decrypt very fast. SSH is useful for a lot of things, but I prefer the rsync daemon for rsync. IIRC backuppc can handle the hardlink issue via rsync (rsync
Re: etiquette nudge
Ranks right up there with the top/bottom post thing, huh? tongue-in-cheek --Dan Lund On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Mike Bushroe mbush...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Joseph Sinclair plug-discuss...@stcaz.net To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:47:12 -0700 Subject: Re: Looking for NAS Hardware Recommendations It's in the firmware zip file[1], something like FWUpdate.exe (they change the name sometimes). [1] http://www.buffalotech.com/support/getfile/ls_series-143.zip On 07/13/2011 08:55 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Joseph Sinclair plug-discuss...@stcaz.net wrote: The best suggestion I can make (other than waiting for acp_commander to get an update so it's able to open up the 1.43 firmware) is to use the Windows or Mac uploader to upload your modified firmware. I installed the Windows sw that came with the box on the CD, but there is no option there to upload a file. Is there another piece of software that is the Windows uploader? Where do I get it? Thanks, Mark On 07/13/2011 05:45 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Joseph Sinclair plug-discuss...@stcaz.net wrote: I missed the 1.43 part... Seems they've improved security. If you can get a shell prompt with acp_commander, try running whoami. If you're already root, then passwd -d root will clear the current password, and you can then set it to anything you like with passwd I get a shell prompt, but nothing seems to work. Every command returns 3 blank lines and a prompt. The only safe way to upload firmware is, unfortunately, a Windows or Mac binary that's included with the firmware update. That said, you can try http://buffalo.nas-central.org/wiki/Manually_flash_the_LinkStation%27s_firmwareifyou're brave. That looks good, but I cannot access /dev/fl1 from the telnet prompt I get. Nothing works at that prompt. You might also just try (from an acp_commander shell prompt) copying the ssh key (put it on a share first) from the array locally over to /root/.ssh/authorized_keys (make sure to check permissions after copying), then try ssh. Good idea, if I could just get telnet to work. Any thoughts on that? good luck. On 07/12/2011 09:59 PM, Joseph Sinclair wrote: You shouldn't need to change or upload firmware. acp_commander can reset the root password (If it can get a shell prompt it should be able to reset the password...) java -jar acp_commander.jar -t $YOUR_NAS_IP_ADDRESS -o That will clear the root password to nothing, allowing you to login via ssh or telnet as root with the (blank) password. You should be able to re-secure things from there (ideally drop an SSH key in for root, create a second account that can sudo and drop a key there as well, then lock the password for both to prevent password login and disable telnet). On 07/12/2011 02:25 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: Joeseph, One more issue, oh Great Buffalo NAS one;-) I started to work on rooting the device by following this http://buffalo.nas-central.org/wiki/Category:LS-WXL. First stumbling block is I have firmware 1.43. However, the zip key for 1.41 worked to unzip the firmware image. It turns out ssh is already enabled for root in 1.43, but one needs a password. It is not the same as the admin password. So, I set up an ssh key and put the disk image back together as described in the article. However, how do I get the LS-WXL beastie to gobble up the new firmware? The web access only allows firmware to be downloaded from Buffalo (no upload file dialog, just a button to update the firmware, which only goes to Buffalo to check on available updates, and then installs them), and the Windows software does not have an option to upload firmware, either. I can get in with acp_commander to the shell prompt, which seems to be a disguised telnet prompt, so I am not sure how to upload new firmware via that method. Anyway to get the root password from the device or the file system I downloaded so I can use that to ssh in and not have to replace the firmware? Thanks for any further suggestions you may have! Mark On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Joseph Sinclair plug-discuss...@stcaz.netwrote: rsync will preserve ownership if you set the option to do so (I don't recall the exact flag offhand). I actually prefer rsync over the Samba mount because cifs doesn't understand POSIX permissions. If you root the box you can certainly do the rsync over ssh, but on a local net native(uncompressed) rsync protocol is *immensely* faster because the little ARM chip in the NAS can't handle the ssh encrypt/decrypt very fast. SSH is useful for a lot of things, but I
Re: etiquette nudge
But not nearly as bad as political discussions and personal attacks... On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Dan Lund situationalawaren...@gmail.comwrote: Ranks right up there with the top/bottom post thing, huh? tongue-in-cheek --Dan Lund On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Mike Bushroe mbush...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Joseph Sinclair plug-discuss...@stcaz.net To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:47:12 -0700 Subject: Re: Looking for NAS Hardware Recommendations It's in the firmware zip file[1], something like FWUpdate.exe (they change the name sometimes). [1] http://www.buffalotech.com/support/getfile/ls_series-143.zip On 07/13/2011 08:55 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Joseph Sinclair plug-discuss...@stcaz.net wrote: The best suggestion I can make (other than waiting for acp_commander to get an update so it's able to open up the 1.43 firmware) is to use the Windows or Mac uploader to upload your modified firmware. I installed the Windows sw that came with the box on the CD, but there is no option there to upload a file. Is there another piece of software that is the Windows uploader? Where do I get it? Thanks, Mark On 07/13/2011 05:45 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Joseph Sinclair plug-discuss...@stcaz.net wrote: I missed the 1.43 part... Seems they've improved security. If you can get a shell prompt with acp_commander, try running whoami. If you're already root, then passwd -d root will clear the current password, and you can then set it to anything you like with passwd I get a shell prompt, but nothing seems to work. Every command returns 3 blank lines and a prompt. The only safe way to upload firmware is, unfortunately, a Windows or Mac binary that's included with the firmware update. That said, you can try http://buffalo.nas-central.org/wiki/Manually_flash_the_LinkStation%27s_firmwareifyou'rehttp://buffalo.nas-central.org/wiki/Manually_flash_the_LinkStation%27s_firmwareifyou%27re brave. That looks good, but I cannot access /dev/fl1 from the telnet prompt I get. Nothing works at that prompt. You might also just try (from an acp_commander shell prompt) copying the ssh key (put it on a share first) from the array locally over to /root/.ssh/authorized_keys (make sure to check permissions after copying), then try ssh. Good idea, if I could just get telnet to work. Any thoughts on that? good luck. On 07/12/2011 09:59 PM, Joseph Sinclair wrote: You shouldn't need to change or upload firmware. acp_commander can reset the root password (If it can get a shell prompt it should be able to reset the password...) java -jar acp_commander.jar -t $YOUR_NAS_IP_ADDRESS -o That will clear the root password to nothing, allowing you to login via ssh or telnet as root with the (blank) password. You should be able to re-secure things from there (ideally drop an SSH key in for root, create a second account that can sudo and drop a key there as well, then lock the password for both to prevent password login and disable telnet). On 07/12/2011 02:25 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: Joeseph, One more issue, oh Great Buffalo NAS one;-) I started to work on rooting the device by following this http://buffalo.nas-central.org/wiki/Category:LS-WXL. First stumbling block is I have firmware 1.43. However, the zip key for 1.41 worked to unzip the firmware image. It turns out ssh is already enabled for root in 1.43, but one needs a password. It is not the same as the admin password. So, I set up an ssh key and put the disk image back together as described in the article. However, how do I get the LS-WXL beastie to gobble up the new firmware? The web access only allows firmware to be downloaded from Buffalo (no upload file dialog, just a button to update the firmware, which only goes to Buffalo to check on available updates, and then installs them), and the Windows software does not have an option to upload firmware, either. I can get in with acp_commander to the shell prompt, which seems to be a disguised telnet prompt, so I am not sure how to upload new firmware via that method. Anyway to get the root password from the device or the file system I downloaded so I can use that to ssh in and not have to replace the firmware? Thanks for any further suggestions you may have! Mark On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Joseph Sinclair plug-discuss...@stcaz.netwrote: rsync will preserve ownership if you set the option to do so (I don't recall
Re: etiquette nudge
I forget these things as gmail Tisha up allot automatically --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss