Re: [PLUG] Debian G/L & मी

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar via plug-mail]

I remember two instances of my Debian installation ages back.

After getting fade up for about half an hour of giving yes/no input to
various questions, pressed the reset button, ejected the CD. End of
install!!

Another time was a surprising Hindi language choice during installation!!
Got "कुंजीपटल चयन करे" on the screen and next step was press reset button
and remove CD!!

Never thought of Debian install anytime later on.

On Mon, 29 Jul, 2024, 9:41 pm Shirish Bhagwat via plug-mail, <
plug-mail@plug.org.in> wrote:

> Progress thus far ::
>
> Pleasantly disappointed with Debian Installation process
>
> Few things...
>
> Installation process of Mageia or Fedora & likes is much much better..
>
> Anyway not here to discuss it...
>
> After few hours I am still coping up with Debian install.
>
>
>
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> On 29 Jul 2024, at 11:08 am, Shirish Bhagwat via plug-mail <
> plug-mail@plug.org.in> wrote:
>>
>> I have always stayed away from Debian for some unknown reason...
>>
>> First it was pestering Atul Chitnis with my ignorance then joining PLUG.
>>
>> Fights & battles while PLUG was taking shape
>>
>> Then Mandrake ~ Mandriva ~ Mageia
>>
>> In between once or twice Manjaro , CentOS, Bodhi, and various Linux
>> distributions tasting the new flavour of each IceCream including Debian.
>>
>> Today I found the reason why I avoided Debian just like Tata Zica
>> becoming Tata Tiago.
>>
>> Nothing wrong from normal human & natural perspective to it.
>>
>> F.C. Road case only as it concerns Debian.
>>
>> Movie Title "Debbie Does Dallas" almost like being on twitter i.e. in the
>> X.com zone.
>>
>> Why NOW.?
>>
>> Today installing Debian on ASUS netbook with whole heartedness w/o any
>> remorse or inkling of NE wrong doing.
>>
>> ~जयहिंद
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Re: [PLUG] Knoppix live cd

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar via plug-mail]

Oops.

Read unmountable instead of uncountable.

Damn this autocorrect..

On Sun, Aug 13, 2023, 12:05 AM Sudhanwa Jogalekar 
wrote:

> Well,
> What you needed is some bootable system that can do fsck on your
> uncountable file system. I offered Ubuntu that can do that job.
>
> If you want to compare various bootable distros, that's a different
> discussion.
>
> Please decide your priority... Whether to make your system workable or
> compare distros
>
> Regards
> Sudhanwa
>
> On Sat, Aug 12, 2023, 10:43 PM shirish शिरीष 
> wrote:
>
>> Am on mobile so will be brief. Not trying to incite a religious war or
>> anything. Knoppix was launched & took the web by storm in 2002. Klaus
>> Knopper was the first guy to think & launch a live cd. He used a combo of
>> hwsetup (from Redhat), a whole bunch of stuff from Debian. There's actually
>> an interview of him in May 2002.
>>
>> Ubuntu meanwhile for all their resources launched in/around mid 2005. I
>> remember both as both also came in lfy couple months later. IIRC lfy had
>> also shared distrowatch interview.
>>
>> So Klaus Knopper took stuff from rh, Debian & later even bsd (security
>> tools). The above mentioned hwsetup is still used while installing Debian.
>>
>> That alone should tell you. Btw one way or another Debian did get
>> influenced & started carrying the same tools.
>>
>> Ubuntu on the other hand, has deviated a lot. How good or bad I leave to
>> other's judgments.
>>
>> Till later.
>>
>> Fwiw, wayback archive machine could be used to authenticate the data, I
>> might be wrong by few months but definitely Ubuntu came much much later.
>>
>> On Wed, 9 Aug, 2023, 10:44 pm Sudhanwa Jogalekar, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Got Ubuntu 2204 bootable pen drive. That should be useful to you.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 6:55 PM shirish शिरीष via plug-mail <
>>> plug-mail@plug.org.in> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, am in bit of jam. Can someone help out. Have bandwidth, have pen
>>>> drive. Unable to mount /home hence need a knoppix live cd to fsck /home &
>>>> be able to mount it. Please lemme know if someone can help.
>>>>
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Re: [PLUG] Knoppix live cd

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar via plug-mail]

Well,
What you needed is some bootable system that can do fsck on your
uncountable file system. I offered Ubuntu that can do that job.

If you want to compare various bootable distros, that's a different
discussion.

Please decide your priority... Whether to make your system workable or
compare distros

Regards
Sudhanwa

On Sat, Aug 12, 2023, 10:43 PM shirish शिरीष  wrote:

> Am on mobile so will be brief. Not trying to incite a religious war or
> anything. Knoppix was launched & took the web by storm in 2002. Klaus
> Knopper was the first guy to think & launch a live cd. He used a combo of
> hwsetup (from Redhat), a whole bunch of stuff from Debian. There's actually
> an interview of him in May 2002.
>
> Ubuntu meanwhile for all their resources launched in/around mid 2005. I
> remember both as both also came in lfy couple months later. IIRC lfy had
> also shared distrowatch interview.
>
> So Klaus Knopper took stuff from rh, Debian & later even bsd (security
> tools). The above mentioned hwsetup is still used while installing Debian.
>
> That alone should tell you. Btw one way or another Debian did get
> influenced & started carrying the same tools.
>
> Ubuntu on the other hand, has deviated a lot. How good or bad I leave to
> other's judgments.
>
> Till later.
>
> Fwiw, wayback archive machine could be used to authenticate the data, I
> might be wrong by few months but definitely Ubuntu came much much later.
>
> On Wed, 9 Aug, 2023, 10:44 pm Sudhanwa Jogalekar, 
> wrote:
>
>> Got Ubuntu 2204 bootable pen drive. That should be useful to you.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 6:55 PM shirish शिरीष via plug-mail <
>> plug-mail@plug.org.in> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, am in bit of jam. Can someone help out. Have bandwidth, have pen
>>> drive. Unable to mount /home hence need a knoppix live cd to fsck /home &
>>> be able to mount it. Please lemme know if someone can help.
>>>
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Re: [PLUG] Knoppix live cd

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar via plug-mail]

Got Ubuntu 2204 bootable pen drive. That should be useful to you.


On Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 6:55 PM shirish शिरीष via plug-mail <
plug-mail@plug.org.in> wrote:

> Hi, am in bit of jam. Can someone help out. Have bandwidth, have pen
> drive. Unable to mount /home hence need a knoppix live cd to fsck /home &
> be able to mount it. Please lemme know if someone can help.
>
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Re: [PLUG] Installing GNU/Linux on school computers

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar via plug-mail]

Hi,

Applications like office should not be a problem on any current linux
distribution.
Marathi or any Indic language usage is also not a problem. You can simply
install the language, font and your favourite input method.

Considering the environment you have, I would suggest to go for Mint or any
lightweight variant of Ubuntu eg. Lubuntu. That will help in getting
acquainted and will have ease in system administration.

HTH.
Regards
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Re: [PLUG] Figuring out image transformation given source and target image

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar via plug-mail]

Hi,

Looks like there are very basic differences in the images.
vendor jpg image is 1336 × 1336 ppi 8 bit RGB image. And your png image is
52.598 × 52.598 pixels/mm 16 bit but grayscale image.
You might be loosing lot of image information due to selection of grayscale.

You can also use https://pixelcalculator.com for some computation or
references.

HTH
-sudhanwa





On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 11:06 PM Mayuresh via plug-mail <
plug-mail@plug.org.in> wrote:

> I have written this[1] software to extract a dental RVG image from an X
> ray sensor connected via USB.
>
> Now I am trying to figure out the image processing required for
> post-processing of the acquired image to match the quality of the vendor
> supplied proprietary software.
>
> [2] is a sample image produced using the vendor software and [3] is the
> raw image acquired using our software mentioned above.
>
> Have tried tweaking brightness, contrast, gamma. These help to some
> extent, but are not sufficient. Further, if I print a map of raw vs
> refined image pixel values, it shows that the transformation is not a
> function of source pixel value alone. There must be some sort of filters
> other than above 3 in use.
>
> Using gimp I have experimented with many of the available filters, but
> could not get satisfactory results.
>
> If there is any digital image processing expert or enthusiast around,
> would appreciate your inputs.
>
> [1] https://github.com/mayureshw/pyrvg
> [2] http://mayuresh.sdfeu.org/byvendor.jpg
> [3] http://mayuresh.sdfeu.org/bypyrvg.png
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Re: [PLUG] test mail

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On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 9:10 PM अभिषेक नागर Abhishek Nãgar <
abhis...@kashipur.in> wrote:

> ACK
>

Thanks.
It works !!
Mailing list admins seem to work on weekends too !!
;-)




> On Sat, Dec 19, 2020, 21:04 Sudhanwa Jogalekar 
> wrote:
>
>> Test mail to check if mailing is fixed
>> please acknowledge
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[PLUG] test mail

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Test mail to check if mailing is fixed
please acknowledge

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Re: [PLUG] Advice on reviving Nokia N900

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Yes. That's the one you get at any mobile accessories shop for some 50-150
rs range. Very useful.


On Sun, Nov 1, 2020, 7:50 PM Mayuresh  wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 01, 2020 at 07:46:04PM +0530, Sudhanwa Jogalekar wrote:
> > Try some external generic charger. Typically called "khekda charger". You
> > can connect any mobile battery to it. I had purchased one long time back.
> > Let me find out one from my khajana !!
>
> Something like this?
> https://www.amazon.in/Rebel-Universal-Battery-Charger-Charger/dp/B00Y420Q5Y
>
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Re: [PLUG] Advice on reviving Nokia N900

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Try some external generic charger. Typically called "khekda charger". You
can connect any mobile battery to it. I had purchased one long time back.
Let me find out one from my khajana !!

On Sun, Nov 1, 2020, 6:01 PM Mayuresh  wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 01, 2020 at 12:21:24PM -, mukund joglekar wrote:
> > is there a battery model no. written on the old battery?
>
> BL 5J (both new and old)
>
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Re: [PLUG] Group Registration for IRC channel

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi



On Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 3:08 PM Dhanesh B. Sabane 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> @Amey - I had a chat with some freenode staff to get answers to your
> questions. Please find them inline.
>
> On Tue, 2020-09-08 at 19:08 +0530, Amey Abhyankar wrote:
> >
> > Sounds interesting.
> >
> > What are the benefits?
> > I am not getting the meaning of 'unambiguous' with relation to the
> > group registration.
> >
>
> What it means is - "Freenode will acknowledge that the group is
> officially registered and has a group contact that can handle all
> issues with the channel"
>
> Issues here are complaints against the content on the channel or
> complaint against how it is moderated and so on.
>


What is this objectionable content and what are the complaints ? #Pluggies
is running for some 15 years or so and I have never heard about
objectiobale content on it. Probably only after the "new kids on the block
" ;-)  are hanging out there this has started !! Could be some loose talk
from across various interconnected social media channels/API connectivity.




> > What kind of relationship is it? Is it something like the blue tick
> > mark we see for some profiles at Twitter? :-)
> >
>
> Quoting the staff member here - "mostly its just a good way for us to
> be able to track who we support - you're more than welcome to use the
> network without registration but its got some nice flash and can ease
> some administrative stuff if thats what you want"
>
> For other specific benefits, please refer the following link -
>
> https://freenode.net/groupreg#group-registration-provides
>
> #pluggies is our official channel but there is no active moderation /
> management. This group registration activity will distribute the
> responsibility across members easing the "administrative stuff" that
> the staff member referred to.
>


There is hardly any administrative activities required there. Adding
official status requires to handle Responsibilities by members and admins.
Who is going to do that?



> I also discovered last week that there is #punelug channel which was
> registered a long time ago but is completely dormant these days. I'd
> like to add this to the list of channels that we would own as part of
> the group registration.
>

Not aware of this #punelug channel. Need to explore further.

Without enough discussions and a general consent, no decision should be
taken that adds responsibility and accountability to people.

Regards
Sudhanwa


> I'll go ahead with this process next weekend with the following IRC
> nicks as part of the primary group contacts for freenode:
>
> 1. Dexter_OSC
> 2. whereistejas
> 3. dhanesh95
>
> If anyone has any queries or issues with this, please shout at me
> before Friday, 18th Sept 2020.
>
> Thanks!
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[PLUG] Now, I’m excited to share Lenovo is moving to certify the full workstation portfolio for top Linux distributions

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Just in case you have not noticed this...

Now, I’m excited to share Lenovo is moving to certify the full workstation
portfolio for top Linux distributions from Ubuntu® and Red Hat® – every
model, every configuration.


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Re: [PLUG] Reporting Success.. ASUS EEPC..

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Also mention to Karanbir. He is on fb.
Iirc, he is in Pune.

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020, 10:35 AM Amey Abhyankar  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 at 09:57, Inkar Nation 
> wrote:
> >
> > Finally managed to install CentOS 8 on Asus eepc and get it running...
>
> That is fantastic!
> You can write about this experience at cent os mailing list =
> https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2020-April/date.html
>
> Regards,
> Amey.
>
> >
> > Everything suggested that I needed to take backup and handover disk to
> installer for automatic partitioning which it believes more.
> >
> > Did that.
> >
> > However Mageia could not give me installer screen owing to some issue so
> went ahead with Centos.
> >
> > During centos install while reclaiming the deleted partitions it
> returned error multiple times so finally gave entire partition to installer
> by deleting all existing and things worked.
> >
> > Sorry folks if I have been rude earlier... I am sure you too will be at
> times :-)
> >
> > Now that OS has been installed I can try other OSes and enjoy reporting
> my pleasure of toying with different distributions...
> >
> > "Upstream Testing has not been done for this hardware " is what
> everybody reports during installation process...
> >
> > Ciao
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Re: [PLUG] Problem with Plug.

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, 5:59 PM Inkar Nation  wrote:

> One long standing problem with open source and free software advocates @
> PLUG.
>
> They never openly acknowledged original idea of Tux with Puneri Pagadi
> from Shri. Somesh Bartakke...
>

Whenever possible, required we always give due credit to Somesh Bartakke
for his work. The current image was modified by Zoyd from Somesh's work.
There is some mistake in the current one but that hardly matters now.

And as a policy, (not a written hard and fast policy as such) there are
hardly any names of people mentioned anywhere on plug website or any of the
associated events. Probably, in the social media exposure/explosion
scenario that is completely wrong.

Actually, be cause of this, many times it becomes difficult for the old
timers to even use PLUG as reference as there is no mention of anyone.

--sudhanwa


> It's a sad story on that front (especially after Zoyd and few other people
> worldwide lost their lives to random acts of nonsense).
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Re: [PLUG] Using TV as primary display via HDMI from desktop PC.

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Forwarded mail

...



Hi Karunakar,

Please check my response below.
(I don't know why plug-mail didn't like my email).

Thanks,
shreekant

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Date: Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [PLUG] Using TV as primary display via HDMI from desktop PC.
To: 


Your message has been rejected, probably because you are not
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From: Shreekant Ranade 
To: plug-mail@plug.org.in
Cc:
Bcc:
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 13:12:49 +0530
Subject: Re: [PLUG] Using TV as primary display via HDMI from desktop PC.

Hi Karunakar,

Did you say the PC is accessible from laptop? This is what worked for me
(laptop, but not using the hotkeys to switch/duplicate displays):

$ xrandr
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 3286 x 1080, maximum 8192 x 8192
eDP-1 connected primary 1366x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y
axis) 344mm x 194mm
   1366x768  60.01*+
   1360x768  59.8059.96
:
HDMI-1 connected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
   1920x1080 50.00*+  60.0050.0059.9430.0025.00
24.0029.9723.98
   1920x1080i60.0050.0050.0059.94
:

$ xrandr --verbose --output HDMI-1 --auto --primary

Hope, this works on your setup.
Thanks,
shreekant

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 1:09 AM G Karunakar  wrote:

Hi,

  I have a desktop PC. Monitor went dead (after 10yrs usage). So I
have no display for PC now. If it was not for the lockdown, would not
be writing abt this as would have had a new monitor anyways!.

 Now PC boots fine, and can access it from laptop.
  I thought I could hook the Sony TV to PC using HDMI cable.
  I do it .
Connect hdmi cable at pc & tv.
switch on TV, switch to HDMI mode.
switch on PC.
   But no display on TV.

  Motherboard has onboard graphics ( I had a nVidia card too but
removed it), There is VGA, Displayport, HDMI .
  I would assume BIOS has some way to direct display output, but BIOS
cannot be reached.
  TV is Sony Bravia 40", R Pi works fine with the TV.

I have a HDMI->VGA adaptor - which I assume is
no use in current situation .
 I also had bought a VGA-HDMI adaptor but cant find it (when its
needed the most! When I bought it I wondered if would every use it!!)

  So I assume now option is to get HDMI output, once kernel has
booted or X has started. Still searching how to do that.

 But if anyone has any solution/tips please do point out.

Karunakar


On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, 1:09 AM G Karunakar  wrote:

> Hi,
>
>   I have a desktop PC. Monitor went dead (after 10yrs usage). So I
> have no display for PC now. If it was not for the lockdown, would not
> be writing abt this as would have had a new monitor anyways!.
>
>  Now PC boots fine, and can access it from laptop.
>   I thought I could hook the Sony TV to PC using HDMI cable.
>   I do it .
> Connect hdmi cable at pc & tv.
> switch on TV, switch to HDMI mode.
> switch on PC.
>But no display on TV.
>
>   Motherboard has onboard graphics ( I had a nVidia card too but
> removed it), There is VGA, Displayport, HDMI .
>   I would assume BIOS has some way to direct display output, but BIOS
> cannot be reached.
>   TV is Sony Bravia 40", R Pi works fine with the TV.
>
> I have a HDMI->VGA adaptor - which I assume is
> no use in current situation .
>  I also had bought a VGA-HDMI adaptor but cant find it (when its
> needed the most! When I bought it I wondered if would every use it!!)
>
>   So I assume now option is to get HDMI output, once kernel has
> booted or X has started. Still searching how to do that.
>
>  But if anyone has any solution/tips please do point out.
>
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Re: [PLUG] The Worst but Enjoyable Thing for a Linux Fan...

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Have you seen/tried this? I am sure you must have tried already.

Check it out :-
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Installing_on_systems_with_UEFI_firmware



On Sat, Mar 21, 2020, 3:42 PM Inkar Nation  wrote:

> Did check it, did not find it anywhere...
>
> Just need to upgrade my knowledgebase on many such things...
>
> With arrival of uefi specific handling of bootloaders & most places I
> started facing problems and I am yet to upgrade myself...
>
>
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> On 20 Mar 2020, at 8:10 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar @
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>>
>> Have you checked on mageia site for uefi installation document?
>>
>> Please checkout and try those instructions.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 6:00 PM Inkar Nation < look.k...@guruvision.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> For last almost one and half year I am working without a computer (there
>>> is no bootable OS installed on laptop of my choice, asus netbook).
>>>
>>> When Mageia failed to get installed post 6.1,  I tried several different
>>> distributions... Manjaro, Debian, centos, fedora justvto name few...
>>>
>>> Somehow almost 30 years of accumulated knowledge/wisdom failed to get
>>> software installed. I never used Windows so it was never a competitor.
>>>
>>> In case of emergencies now I use old 586 based lenovo 2048 since it is
>>> running Mageia 7.1 without any hickup..
>>>
>>> This issue is related to EFI boot partition and no matter how I tried it
>>> failed. Finally I decided to have no computer as time passes and age number
>>> increases...
>>>
>>> Looking back happy about my choice and sad about the affairs... Maybe
>>> there are few like me. Maybe I am alone in this situation...
>>>
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Re: [PLUG] The Worst but Enjoyable Thing for a Linux Fan...

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Have you checked on mageia site for uefi installation document?

Please checkout and try those instructions.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 6:00 PM Inkar Nation  wrote:

> For last almost one and half year I am working without a computer (there
> is no bootable OS installed on laptop of my choice, asus netbook).
>
> When Mageia failed to get installed post 6.1,  I tried several different
> distributions... Manjaro, Debian, centos, fedora justvto name few...
>
> Somehow almost 30 years of accumulated knowledge/wisdom failed to get
> software installed. I never used Windows so it was never a competitor.
>
> In case of emergencies now I use old 586 based lenovo 2048 since it is
> running Mageia 7.1 without any hickup..
>
> This issue is related to EFI boot partition and no matter how I tried it
> failed. Finally I decided to have no computer as time passes and age number
> increases...
>
> Looking back happy about my choice and sad about the affairs... Maybe
> there are few like me. Maybe I am alone in this situation...
>
> Enjoying Life after drinking Corona Mexican Beer a fortnight back.
>
> Old Time Plugger (OTP)
> शिरीष
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Re: [PLUG] I wish, I knew this when I started with Vim

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Haven't seen the old timers in real world in many years!! Let's meet in
this year itself during some PLUG meeting.

What you guys say??
-sudhanwa

On Thu, Nov 28, 2019, 8:43 AM Shridhar Daithankar 
wrote:

> On २७/११/१९ ९:२५ म.उ., Mayuresh wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 10:35:58AM +0530, Gaurav Pant wrote:
> >>Long time no see of use of abbr.
> >
> > And the poster too... When was last that Shridhar posted?
>
> :) long time I guess, at least a year.
>
> Good to see you too.
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Re: [PLUG] I wish, I knew this when I started with Vim

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

After many years of usage, I stopped using CLI quite some time back. But
still use vi kind of editors a few times.  This reminds me of the best
editor I ever used -- BRIEF . Just checked that Wikipedia page and found
that few things in vim come from brief !! Just check the features in it
that are even today very useful and innovative!! And those were available
in the eighties on a dos environment!!

Check out the wiki page here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brief_(text_editor)

Regards
Sudhanwa

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019, 9:02 AM Tejas Sanap  wrote:

> Hey, folks!
>
> As the world rides the "VS Code" wave and it's extensive list of
> extensions that are easy to set up and even easier to configure, some of
> us, stick to the Old Way of Vim. However, as effective as vi/vim may be, it
> presents a considerable learning curve, especially, to the novice command
> line user, it just seems too much to handle all at once and thus, they
> either move to "nano" or abandon command line text editors, altogether.
>
> But, the vim community, offers great documentation and there are tons of
> blogs written by vim-users, all over the internet. Captain Pike, from the
> USS Enterprise, once said, "the best way to swim in a cold stream, is to
> jump right in", and it is also true in the case of vim.
>
> Using vim for all your editing tasks, is the fastest way to learn and the
> easiest way to appreciate vim.
>
> The best source of vim-related things is the "r/vim"[3] sub-reddit.
>
> The best place to clarify your vim doubts, is the #vim IRC channel.
>
> The best collection of vim-hacks for the most common issues realated to
> vim is, the vim-wikia[4].
>
> The most accurate, detailed and dependable source of information for any
> vim feature is the "in-built" documentation[5].
>
> The links [1] and [2] are good beginner resources.
>
> [1]: https://kadekillary.work/post/learn-vim/
>
> [2]: http://vimcasts.org/
>
> [3]: https://www.reddit.com/r/vim/
>
> [4]: https://vim.fandom.com/wiki/
>
> [5]: https://www.vim.org/docs.php
>
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Re: [PLUG] Editable PDFs - Does the world need them?

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

PDF is essentially meant to get the exact same thing that was created to be
seen by the reader, anywhere on any platform.

If the file is made editable, the main purpose itself will be lost.



On Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 1:51 PM Tejas Sanap  wrote:

> Hey, folks!
> The PDF file format is ubiquitous nowadays and there are very good reasons
> behind it. It fits in every format of information, it's space-efficient and
> with item, the surrounding ecosystem has adapted to it very well. Except,
> one tiny issue, editing PDFs. If one were to make PDFs freely editable[1],
> what would they gain? What are I thoughts on this matter?
>
> I, personally, believe that having an universal, freely-editable file
> format based on an open standard, is an essential part of our software
> freedom.
>
> [1]: https://editablepdf.org/
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Re: [PLUG] October PLUG meetup

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

That's Diwali festival days !!
I doubt if anyone will be available.

On Mon, Oct 14, 2019, 12:04 PM Tejas Sanap  wrote:

> Hey, folks!
>
> PLUG is planning to conduct a meetup on the *28th of October*. As of now,
> no topics/talks have been finalized. This email is a call/invitation for
> interested folks to get in touch with us and share their ideas. All members
> of PLUG and non-members, are most welcome to give a talk. You can get in
> touch with us by replying to this email or through the IRC channel
> #pluggies on Freenode. We have seen a steady growth in number of consistent
> members on our IRC channel. I will urge all members of PLUG to join the IRC
> channel.
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[PLUG] Oracle announces Oracle Autonomous Linux

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Oracle announces Oracle Autonomous Linux

Billed as the world's first autonomous operating system, Oracle Autonomous
Linux provisions itself, scales itself, tunes itself and patches itself
while running.
Read more here:
https://www.zdnet.com/article/oracle-announces-oracle-autonomous-linux


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[PLUG] Fwd: [fsug-goa] Debutsav Goa September 14 - 15, 2019

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

FYI

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Date: Mon, Aug 19, 2019, 12:46 AM
Subject: [fsug-goa] Debutsav Goa September 14 - 15, 2019
To: , 




Debutsav Goa September 14 - 15, 2019

Veling , Goa/India

A DebUtsav Goa 2019 is an awesome opportunity for any user who wants to
experience the magic of Free and Open Source Software (FOSS). Here you can
meet the veterans in FOSS development, develop professional connections
which will help you in future, chat with contributors who can guide you,
advance the cause of Debian and most importantly, grasp the essence of FOSS
development. It is indeed a ‘never miss’ opportunity that will give you a
strong foundation to build on!

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Re: [PLUG] test mail

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Checking replies.
Do acknowledge.


On Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 8:13 AM G Karunakar  wrote:

> This is a test mail, pl ignore.
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Re: [PLUG] What saved the day in the chaos that followed...

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

I hope by this time during this whole exercise you must have realized that
dont mess up with partitions.

And more importantly, plan what you want to achieve.

And even more important is to get enough knowledge on how things will work
before the plan.

Looks like all these were missing in your exercise and hopefully you gained
out of it.

And just as irrelevent as your mixing of 19.1 to osho departure, I was in
the commune that day.



On Fri, May 31, 2019, 3:27 PM Skool!lookS•InkarNatioN <
look.k...@guruvision.com> wrote:

> Linux Mint is currently on 19.1
>
> 19th Jan is OSHO's departure day (D.A.)
>
> Same guy (spiritual guru thrown out of America & many other places).
>
> Pune is home to his commune.
>
> No matter how much Mageia wishes this wasn't the case unless 7.1 is
> released on time & I erase /boot from my disk it is running on Debian
> kernel 4.15
>
> It was also the day (19 Jan) when my close friend's mother passed away in
> year 2010...
>
>
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Re: [PLUG] Moving towards Centos from Mageia...

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hmmm

Replacing car because you can not fix your starter??



On Fri, May 24, 2019, 7:30 PM Skool!lookS•InkarNatioN <
look.k...@guruvision.com> wrote:

> This is going to be little interesting journey for me... Moving from
> Mageia to Centos.
>
> Not because any failure of GRUB & Mageia, but my lack of knowledge of
> fixing Mageia 6.1/7 as it pertains to install using Grub.
>
> Countless attempts of all sorts yielded nothing.
>
> Humbly I accepted defeat today and amongst options on some mirror found
> Mint, Fedora & Centos as known monsters.
>
> Hopefully will learn "Linux" & "How to boot"
>
> :-)
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Re: [PLUG] M$ new windows shell feature.

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi Navin,

Nice to see you on the list after ages !!

This is the news article about Microsoft Linux kernel.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-is-getting-a-microsoft-built-linux-kernel


And it does not look like a core kernel in windows or even it can make some
good change to windows. Possibly they are continuing with the tactics of
getting more of Linux people to windows world by having more
interoperability products.

Interestingly, some windows 95 things are coming back to current windows !!
Maybe that could be a good reason to go back to Windows !! Linux kernel in
windows may not be the right reason to switch back  ;-)

Regards
Sudhanwa

On Fri, May 10, 2019, 3:43 PM Navin Dhanuka  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Sharing the new Shell Video.
>
> http://blog.navindhanuka.com/microsoft-is-embracing-open-source-and-linux-in-a-big-way/
>
> Regards,
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Re: [PLUG] Latest mageia kernel does not boot correct...

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

You may check the logs to find if there's any useful information for
troubleshooting.

You can also check the background messages during boot up. That can
possibly help.



On Sat, Mar 30, 2019, 1:02 PM Skool!lookS  wrote:

> Story repeats itself with today's kernel minor version ".106"
> auto-update applied to Mageia 6.
>
> Need to use kernel ".89" for booting.
>
> After booting starts bootsplash comes on then it deliver forever blank
> screen.
>
> I initially thought it must be related to screen depth related but could
> not successfully establish it.
>
> Best Never Rests
>
>
>
> On 28/03/19 10:02 AM, Amey Abhyankar wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 22:01, Skool!lookS•InkarNatioN
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> Kernel revision update 100 & 104 do not boot on my asus E1215b netbook..
> >
> > AMD Brazos platform to blame I think.
> > Safe game is to always boot in live mode 1st, do lot of testing & then
> > install if everything works fine ^_^
> >
> > Regards,
> > Amey.
> >
> >>
> >> Previous updates till kernel revision 89 boot correctly...
> >>
> >> Patience hold the key...!
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Re: [PLUG] What topics are allowed ?

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 3:51 PM Mayuresh  wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 02:22:58PM +0530, G Karunakar wrote:
> > Trouble being mailer keeps re-appearing with a different mail id.
> > Unless new membership itself is moderated, though cant guarantee
> > person taking a different cloak to get in.
>
> It need not be fool proof. But even if we manage to reduce nuisance to a
> good extent that is quite an achievement.
>
> I wish, we re-enable moderation with some tool assistance so that every
> email doesn't have to be watched.
>
> I miss good old days when experienced members would inculcate in new users
> practices like not using top post, trimming of contents etc.
>

We stopped moderation completely after there was some huge discussion and
concerns raised about it. As Karunakar mentioned, there is no way to stop
people from registering with various ids. Moreover, there is no method to
know when any person will start posting absurd things.

So, just chill and use dev/null effectively !! And once in a while enjoy
the absurd, completely out of context postings !! :-)

Regards
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[PLUG] Fwd: [Wikimediaindia-l] SVG Translation Campaign 2019

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

FYI
This should be of genuine interest to some people !! Interesting activities
!!



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From: Krishna Chaitanya Velaga 
Date: Mon, Feb 11, 2019, 6:15 PM
Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] SVG Translation Campaign 2019
To: Wikimedia India Community list 


Hello everyone,

The SVG Training Campaign 2019

will start from 21 February 2019 (International Mother Language Day). It is
a 38-day long campaign to translate the SVG files into Indian languages for
use of regional language Wikipedias. After Wikigraphists Bootcamp in
September 2018, we had a good number of Wikimedians from India and
neighbouring countries, who were trained on using Inkscape and other tools,
to create vector illustrations (SVG is a file format for vector graphics,
like JPG for raster graphics). This campaign is a follow-up to that
project, and also with a goal to promote the idea of vector graphics among
the larger Indian community. Often, we see English-labelled SVG files being
used on Indian Wikipedias, this campaign also helps us to have localised
SVG files with labels in regional languages to be used on Wikipedias. I am
writing this email to invite you all to participate in the campaign, and
give some updates.

All the resources to enable you to participate in this campaign have been
listed at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:SVG_Translation_Campaign_2019_in_India/Resources.
This includes a 24-min video tutorial to learn about translating SVGs using
Inkscape (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5OOZMIq-8A), steps to
participate in the campaign, Inkscape related resources, fonts to use
(download and install), and also dictionaries (please feel free to add your
language dictionaries to the page). We also have instructions for
Chromebooks about the same.

Lists of images for all languages are available at:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:SVG_Translation_Campaign_2019_in_India/File_list.
For people to practice before the campaign starts on 21 February 2019,
there are also practice lists (20 images) to practice SVG translation. All
these can be accessed from the above mentioned "File list" page.

If you have questions or queries related to SVG translation, including
issues you face with the files, can be posted to the Help Desk at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:SVG_Translation_Campaign_2019_in_India/Help_Desk,
or contact any of the language organisers listed at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:SVG_Translation_Campaign_2019_in_India/Organisers
.

Please sign up as a participant at:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:SVG_Translation_Campaign_2019_in_India/Participants,
and you can the join the Telegram group for this campaign at,
https://t.me/joinchat/E1HSNhOXJZWnxus-36PuNA.

Let me know if you have any questions.

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Re: [PLUG] PLUG Meet for Feb 2019 (Venue Confirmation UPDATE)

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Not sure why you want to promote that bluemail and/or 10.or device. Are
they open source?


On Fri, Feb 8, 2019, 7:25 PM Skool!lookS•InkarNatioN <
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> 704 (0704 ignoring leading zero) is independence day of USA.
>
> So... In short "silence is beautiful".
>
> Rest remains a mystery...
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> look.k...@guruvision.com> wrote:
>>
>> A climb down of sort?
>>
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>>
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>> On 8 Feb 2019, at 16:49, Gaurav Pant < gaurav...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> There is a slight Change in venue:
>>> Instead of 7th Floor Room 704
>>> We will meet in 3rd Floor Room 306.  (less climbing ;) )
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> --
>>> Dexter
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 9:51 AM Gaurav Pant < gaurav...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hello Everyone,

 Next PLUG meet is scheduled on 9th Feb 2019. Meeting details are
 available at the following link:

 This time we are going to have a session By Shridhar D on Version
 control.

 More details are available at
 https://www.plug.org.in/events/2019/02/09/plug-meeting-february-2019

 Please do register for the meet.
 https://www.plug.org.in/plug-meet-registration

 Timings:
 04:00 PM to 06:00 PM

 Venue:

 Symbiosis Institute of Computer Studies and Research (SICSR),
 Room No. 704, 7th Floor, Atur Centre, Gokhale Cross Road,
 Model Colony, Pune - 411016.

 Link to site https://goo.gl/maps/31kztheAtb42

 Thanks and Regards
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[PLUG] Fwd: [Wikimediaindia-l] SVG Translation Campaign 2019 in India

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

FYI.

Some people on the list will surely be interested in participating in this
activity.


-- Forwarded message -
From: Rajeeb Dutta 
Date: Mon, Jan 14, 2019, 9:08 PM
Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] SVG Translation Campaign 2019 in India
To: Wikimedia India Community list 


Hello everyone,



As it is said, "A picture is worth a thousand words but vector
illustrations are even better", [Attribution
].
I am delighted to announce the "SVG Translation Campaign 2019 in India".
SVG Translation Campaign 2019 in India is a planned 38-day long campaign to
translate the English-labelled SVG files into Indian languages for use on
regional language Wikipedias. During Wikigraphists Bootcamp in September
2018
,
we had several Wikimedians from India who were trained on using Inkscape
and other tools, to create vector illustrations (SVG is a file format for
vector graphics, like JPG for raster graphics). This campaign is a
follow-up of that project and also with a goal to promote the idea of
vector graphics among the larger Indian community. Often, we see
English-labelled SVG files being used on Indian Wikipedias, this campaign
also helps us to have localised SVG files with labels in regional languages
to be used on Wikipedias.



More about the campaign can be seen at:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:SVG_Translation_Campaign_2019_in_India,
where all the required material to understand about vector graphics and
SVGs is already listed. There will be campaign specific tutorials for the
campaign posted soon at:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:SVG_Translation_Campaign_2019_in_India/Resources
.



This message is to notify the community about the planned campaign, more
details to follow soon. The campaign starts on 21st. February 2019, marking
"International Mother Language Day", and will continue till 31st March
2019. To make it easy for the participants, a list of images (inclusive,
but not limited to) will posted at:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:SVG_Translation_Campaign_2019_in_India/File_list
.



All the communities are invited to actively take part in the campaign, you
can sign-up yourself as a "Community organiser" for your language at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:SVG_Translation_Campaign_2019_in_India/Organisers
(max
two per community), or just sign up as a participant at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:SVG_Translation_Campaign_2019_in_India/Participants
.



If you would like to organise a small onsite event, please sign up at:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:SVG_Translation_Campaign_2019_in_India/Offline_Events,
before 21st January 2019. So that it'll help us to finalise the budget.



It might sound confusing, but all the resources required for smooth
participation will be online far before the campaign starts on 21st
February 2019. If you have any questions, please email me or post at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:SVG_Translation_Campaign_2019_in_India
.



Thanks,

Rajeeb Dutta

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Re: [PLUG] Spam over IRC channel

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 1:10 PM Dhanesh Sabane 
wrote:

> On 08/28/2018 03:11 AM, Raju Devidas wrote:
> > No one seems to have addressed the spam issues on the IRC side.
> > And there is continous spam on the channel.
> >
>
> The spam is only growing day by day. It is my request to the
> admins/moderators to look into this as soon as possible.
>

Just to find out whats happening, I had visited the channel once in a
while. Could not see any activity there.
But then, I was not active for that long to monitor things.

Can someone send some logs.

Regards
-Sudhanwa





>
> Regards,
>
> Dhanesh B. Sabane
> https://dhanesh95.gitlab.io
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Re: [PLUG] PLUG meet for the month of July 2018

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 2:51 PM, Amey Abhyankar  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> On 13 July 2018 at 12:44, Gaurav Pant  wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > PLUG meet will take place next week Saturday. I.e. 21st July 2018.
>



>
> I posted message at Cent OS promo ML about Cent OS DOJO events in India.
> Rich Bowen replied to me asking if interested to host DOJO event in
> our city = https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-promo/2018-
> July/001689.html
> Can we/PLUG organize DOJO event like last time at University Of Pune
> campus? Thanks.
>


I completely forgot to respond to this thread and also discussing the topic
in the PLUG meeting.

Yes, PLUG can surely organize a Centos DOJO. Please post the requirements
and related things.

Regards
-Sudhanwa




>
> Regards,
> Amey.
>
> >
> > Regards
> > Gaurav Pant
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [PLUG] PLUG meet for the month of July 2018

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,


On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 10:45 AM, Dhanesh B. Sabane 
wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> On Friday 13 July 2018 12:44 PM, Gaurav Pant wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > PLUG meet will take place next week Saturday. I.e. 21st July 2018.
>

Yes. Confirmed.



> >
> > Anyone interested in giving a talk/demo please let us know.
> >
>
> As discussed on another thread [1], I've asked for the Hamara party box.
> Can we have a release party at this PLUG meet?
>

Yes. Sure !!

Looks like this PLUG meeting is going to have some celebrations !! Hamara
Linux party and Experiences sharing about OPENSUSE event from Amey
Abhyankar !!
And goodies from both !! :-)

See you there !!

Regards
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Re: [PLUG] CoFSuG and FOSS and PLUG

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,


On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 5:37 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar 
wrote:

> Dear Shirish Agarwal,
>
> I suppose some of your queries are already answered on this thread.
>
>
I was expecting to hear from Shirish Agarwal on/about this thread. Nothing
has happened in 2 months.
I hope he is fit and fine.

Regards
-Sudhanwa





> From your messages, it seems that you are confusing between SICSR and
> PLUG. It is sad and unfortunate that even after being in PLUG for so many
> years, you are confusing between these two completely different entities.
>
> PLUG does not have any control or influence on what SICSR people (staff,
> teachers, students etc) think, do, communicate and commit.
> Looks like you are pretty upset by some interactions, commitments with/by
> SICSR. If those were related to FOSS and worth considering implementation,
> you could have come to PLUG to get some support to interact with SICSR. I
> don't think that has happened anytime before from your side. PLUG is/was
> always there to interact with any organisation-college or commercial or
> otherwise for any FOSS activities. And to some extent for the open data,
> open knowledge etc etc.
>
> PLUG has been associated with other colleges in the past. There was a
> conference FOSSUMMIT in MIT that happened some years back. In one of the
> engineering college, we have inaugurated their internal LUG 2 times !!! I
> have been to various teacher training programs related to FOSS many times.
> We have been participating in CMDA expo for many many years.
>
> Those are just some examples of PLUG work as in various talks/conferences
> etc. Thats what your concern seems to be.
>
> There had been much discussion about the mailing list and you can find it
> on archives somewhere. There were valid reasons when the mailing list rules
> were very strict. But that was a pretty old story. Now the list is
> completely open with no restrictions.
>
> To answer all your queries, it will take a discussion of at least 3-4
> hours and I dont have the patience of typing out things for you.
> So, feel free to meet me or any other old pluggie who knows the history so
> as to clear your doubts.
>
> You can carry on this thread further. I can give in some inputs wherever
> possible.
>
> Regards
> -Sudhanwa
>
> [snip]
>
>
>


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Re: [PLUG] CoFSuG and FOSS and PLUG

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Dear Shirish Agarwal,

I suppose some of your queries are already answered on this thread.

>From your messages, it seems that you are confusing between SICSR and PLUG.
It is sad and unfortunate that even after being in PLUG for so many years,
you are confusing between these two completely different entities.

PLUG does not have any control or influence on what SICSR people (staff,
teachers, students etc) think, do, communicate and commit.
Looks like you are pretty upset by some interactions, commitments with/by
SICSR. If those were related to FOSS and worth considering implementation,
you could have come to PLUG to get some support to interact with SICSR. I
don't think that has happened anytime before from your side. PLUG is/was
always there to interact with any organisation-college or commercial or
otherwise for any FOSS activities. And to some extent for the open data,
open knowledge etc etc.

PLUG has been associated with other colleges in the past. There was a
conference FOSSUMMIT in MIT that happened some years back. In one of the
engineering college, we have inaugurated their internal LUG 2 times !!! I
have been to various teacher training programs related to FOSS many times.
We have been participating in CMDA expo for many many years.

Those are just some examples of PLUG work as in various talks/conferences
etc. Thats what your concern seems to be.

There had been much discussion about the mailing list and you can find it
on archives somewhere. There were valid reasons when the mailing list rules
were very strict. But that was a pretty old story. Now the list is
completely open with no restrictions.

To answer all your queries, it will take a discussion of at least 3-4 hours
and I dont have the patience of typing out things for you.
So, feel free to meet me or any other old pluggie who knows the history so
as to clear your doubts.

You can carry on this thread further. I can give in some inputs wherever
possible.

Regards
-Sudhanwa

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Re: [PLUG] Has anybody made a stock ticker

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 1:48 AM, shirish शिरीष 
wrote:

> Using part of my blog post for sharing both the rationale and what is
> needed.
>
> For quite sometime now, I had been thinking of how to get a stock
> ticker working in GNU/Linux. I know and knew lot of large financial
> institutions use GNU/Linux as finances are secrets and GNU/Linux is or
> can be great at keeping secrets. Hence I was under probably the false
> impression, I would just need to go to github or some code-sharing
> place and somebody would already have done something. For
> self-security as I’m a freelancer (we don’t have pensions in our part
> of world apart from Government and the defense services) I have
> invested some money in equities and some in Mutual Funds. Now the
> Bombay Stock Exchange lists both equities and mutual funds on its
> exchange. Now tuning on TV and trying to figure out stocks and what
> they are listing is a major time sink. I don’t need real-time quotes.
> There are quite a few services which give near-realtime quotes but
> even they are a bit of overkill for what I have in my mind.
>
> I just need a ticker which takes the BSE codes and gives near-realtime
> quotes and displays it in the ticker. Joey Hess made one and its lying
> orphaned in debian.
>


I believe you will be connected to the net all the time when using such
tickers. Also assuming you will be using some browser for the ticker.

A simple google search for "Indian stock market ticker
{desktop/android/} gave me enough sensible results. Many of these
tickers can be customised as per user needs.

Not able to understand why the ticker has to be under FOSS. In any case,
live data is freely available but need to pay for the same to get it in
your required formats.

Regards
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[PLUG] Just a gentle reminder about Gnunify 2018 !!

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Just a gentle reminder about Gnunify 2018 !! Just a few days remaining for
the conference now !! Delegate registration is already open !! Check out
http://gnunify.in/ for tracks, talks, schedule etc.

Regards
-Sudhanwa


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Re: [PLUG] Add-ons Dev for Browser workshop

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Dear Kshithij,

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 1:46 PM, KSHITHIJ IYER <16030142...@sicsr.ac.in>
wrote:

> Reply Inline
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 1:16 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar
> <sudhanwa@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Kshithij,
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:42 AM, KSHITHIJ IYER <16030142...@sicsr.ac.in>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> As per my knowledge, the dates for GNUnify 2018 are not yet confirmed.
> >> Once that thing is done a formal CFP would be sent on the mailing list
> >> to which you can respond to. Please be patient and hang around till
> >> then.
> >>
> >> May the source be with you,
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Kshithij Iyer
> >> (IRC nick: ahole)
>

Appreciate your concern and help in getting GNUNIFY (and PLUG) going !!

Thanks and regards
-Sudhanwa





> >
> >
> >
> > Looks like you are part of SICSR and have more internal information than
> > other pluggies.
> The mail was just an honest reply based on experience from the last
> one and nothing official. It was just based on hearsay among students.
> And I thought there is no sense in being a pluggie if you can't even
> reply to emails from other pluggies.
>
> > As far as I know, the dates are 16,17 Feb 2018. You can take this as THE
> > announcement !!
> Great to hear this!
>
> >
> > I do not have any idea about the website updation as it is handled by
> Symbi.
> > If you have any updates in the same, please share with all of us.
> >
> Will get back to you if I get to know anything about this,
>
> > Like Arun mentioned, GNUNIFY is normally done on second week (Friday,
> > Saturday)of February every year. The tradition continues !!
> >
> > Hope this clears some doubts.
> >
> > Regards
> > -Sudhanwa
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [PLUG] Add-ons Dev for Browser workshop

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi Kshithij,

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:42 AM, KSHITHIJ IYER <16030142...@sicsr.ac.in>
wrote:


>
> As per my knowledge, the dates for GNUnify 2018 are not yet confirmed.
> Once that thing is done a formal CFP would be sent on the mailing list
> to which you can respond to. Please be patient and hang around till
> then.
>
> May the source be with you,
>
> Regards,
> Kshithij Iyer
> (IRC nick: ahole)
>


Looks like you are part of SICSR and have more internal information than
other pluggies.
As far as I know, the dates are 16,17 Feb 2018. You can take this as THE
announcement !!

I do not have any idea about the website updation as it is handled by
Symbi. If you have any updates in the same, please share with all of us.

Like Arun mentioned, GNUNIFY is normally done on second week (Friday,
Saturday)of February every year. The tradition continues !!

Hope this clears some doubts.

Regards
-Sudhanwa






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Re: [PLUG] About password strength

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,






Dear Arun,



Thank you for sharing those links. I have seen these on so many Indian
sites including our own Income Tax Department ( to file ITR Returns)
that it has become a joke.

There is a term called 'Security theater'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_theater which is apt for this
occasion.

To top it with the new Firefox release, you cannot even use addons
like Certificate Patrol to see what kinds of TLS encryption the site
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/certificate-patrol/ . I
have seen lots of reputable sites using pretty poor ciphers for
encryption and for end-users there is no reasonable way for them to
take a call as to what's best or needs to be changed, including most
of the private and public banks.



Security is all about the risk that you can take. It has nothing much to do
with anything else.


If you are covered under some assurance/insurance from the bank or other
such authorities, you should not bother much about the criticality of the
cyphers etc.

It's your (users) call to accept the risk or not.

BTW

Even RBI uses some certificate issued by private parties. (Not Indian)

Regards
Sudhanwa




FWIW I have written to some banks whose customer I am and had been
thinking of shifting to digitial platforms but haven't received any
sort of substantial answers from them.

What you have highlighted is that only 0.0001 percent fools like us
want security and are a bit paranoid like us. The rest just go about
their merry way.

I don't have solutions other than building awareness on the bottom of
the pyramid but that is kind of slow death. When people are ready to
give their fb usernames and passwords at the drop of the hat without
doing any social engineering than this feels like a long task



I do wish we had better ways to enhance and mass-reach on sensitive
topics like these.

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[PLUG] Fwd: [fsug-goa] Free GNU/Linux course...

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Forwarded FYI.



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From: "Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com [fsug-goa]" <
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Date: Dec 22, 2017 10:11 AM
Subject: [fsug-goa] Free GNU/Linux course...
To: , 
Cc:



Ahmed Alkabary has created an awesome Linux Command Line Basic course. It
is available on Udemy and it's among the bestsellers with over 80,000
students enrolled..

Ahmed is giving this course for free for all It's FOSS readers because he
learned a lot with It's FOSS. He is a Unix system administrator at IBM
Canada and he believes that It's FOSS helped him in getting this position.
Therefore he is doing this to show his appreciation and give back to
It's FOSS Community.

I sincerely thank Ahmed for this kind gesture.

If you are interested, you can get the course for free on Udemy
.
Use the coupon code ITSFOSS, if required.
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Re: [PLUG] New Indian ubuntu mirror

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

COEP and/or IIIT in Pune could be a good choice in the near future.
I saw an ad in the newspaper today from COEP for supply of 1000 and 300 meg
of bandwidth for these organisations.
God only knows why they need so much of bandwidth. Can be utilised for
hosting mirrors for sure.

-Sudhanwa


On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 7:39 AM, shirish शिरीष  wrote:

> at bottom :-
>
> On 06/07/2017, Arun Khan  wrote:
>
> 
>
> >
> > Rather than relying on commercial interests like Hathway and Reliance,
> > the government, if they are serious about FOSS adoption, should
> > empower (fund) NIC and the educational institutions to host FOSS
> > repos.  To the best of my understanding, repos at the IITs exist
> > because of dedicated FOSS  individuals within those orgs. and not
> > because of some policy.  Take the case of NRCFOSS - way back in
> > 2005-2009 time frame it was active, promoting FOSS at various regional
> > colleges but now it has gone into oblivion perhaps due to lack of
> > funds.  Crowd funding is an option but I'm not hopeful that it can
> > generate viable funds.
>
>
> I think that's expecting a bit too much from our babus. As it is it's
> only 22 percent of gram panchayats who have got broadband connectivity
> in what 7+ years of the project .
>
> http://www.financialexpress.com/india-news/bharatnet-
> project-monitoring-no-broadband-connectivity-in-78-
> pct-gram-panchayats-ambitious-project-failing-deadlines/751785/
>
> The best way if they really wanted to help would be to have a
> bittorrent service with a tracker stating where they are hosting and
> advertising the same to other trackers. That would be easiest and
> speediest way to do it.
>
> From whatever little experience I have had dealing with Govt. websites
> even the most innocuous info. is tucked away in some god-forsaken
> corner where it's hard to reach without somebody knowing the exact
> URL.
>
> The only bright light I have seen is IRCTC and recently BSNL's own
> portal which I understood have been somewhat freed through numerous
> RTI queries etc.
>
> As far as IIT Mumbai mirror is concerned it was and always has been an
> individual or a group effort at the most. The Debian mirror at IIT
> Mumbai has usually been out of whack (8 hrs. to 3 days late) then
> what's been happening on the actual network.
>
> At the easiest, you can use net-select and see which mirrors it tells
> you are more current and have the lowest latency, you would be
> surprised.
>
> To do this, we would have to have at least 3-4 free software groups
> banding together, raising RTI queries and also putting on something
> like change.org and make a big noise about it. Europeans for sure will
> help us.
>
> I am sure funds are there in GOI's budget, it's just getting them out
> and into the right hands.
>
> My 2 paise.
>
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[PLUG] SUSE Linux Enterprise Server and openSUSE are now available for download on Microsoft's Windows Store.

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hm Where the world is moving to...

SUSE Linux Enterprise Server and openSUSE are now available for download on
Microsoft's Windows Store. Ubuntu and RH also in the pipeline !!

Read more here:
http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-now-suse-linux-comes-to-windows-store-for-insiders/?loc=newsletter_large_thumb_featured=TRE-03-10aaa6b=133407

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Re: [PLUG] [OT] Does anybody know of a good mp4+mp3 player (mips or android based) which is available in the mkt.

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

A simple mp3 music player (lookalike of that matchbox size American product
) is available for about 200 Rs. Worth spending that kind of money for
trial.


On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 6:49 PM, mallapadi niranjan <
niranjan.as...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am not sure if this helps, But i don't use a smartphone and for my music
> needs, i use sandisk mp3 player[1].
>
> For me it's enough (doesn't play videos.), very durable , very
> lightweight, and you can install rockbox [2]. to support
> flac, ogg formats (audio).  Its as durable as old nokia 1100 phones.
>
> This mp3 player is not fancy and it works on Linux , and is detected as
> usb and just copy paste your songs on to the usb drive. I am
> using this mp3 player for last 5 years and its the best companion.
>
>
> 1.http://www.amazon.in/SANDISK-SDMX24-008G-A46K-Sport-Players-Black/dp/
> B00HWIM3B2?_encoding=UTF8=sandisk%20mp3%
> 20player=1498310032_=sr_1_2=8-2
> 2.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockbox
>
> On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 8:37 AM, Amey Abhyankar  wrote:
>
>> On 23 June 2017 at 21:01, shirish शिरीष  wrote:
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > I'm on the lookout of a good mp4+mp3 player (which means it should
>> > show videos if I chose to) or either just hear the songs or whatever
>> > audio is there. With this it should be able to step up and step down
>> > battery consumption.
>>
>> I can think of that famous product [by Mr.Jobs ;-)] which rocked music
>> player concept several years back.
>> The tiny music player with white ear-in headphones.
>> The newest version of that player is available in matchbox size which
>> don't have any screen but amazing battery life as it just plays music
>> that too via headphones.
>> Also, those player variants are compliant with specific standards i.e.
>> less harmful to ears & other parts of body. Of course maximum volume
>> damages ear.
>>
>> Other than that,I can immediately think of that famous Japanese company.
>> They still makes good music players.
>>
>> If you can wait till July end, don't bother to grab the 2017 version
>> of that classic phone company's phone from 90's which was the king of
>> Indian mobile phone market.
>> And yes the revamped model is compatible with mp3 format.
>> Ofcourse it has FM radio too & that classic snake game ^_^
>>
>> I personally prefer just a music player without touchscreen but with FM
>> radio.
>> These days there are tons of FM stations in Pune.
>> There is new 95FM channel which most of the time plays classic Hindi
>> songs.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Amey.
>>
>> >
>> > I'm sure something like this should be available as I've been thinking
>> > of something like this more than 2-3 years. If anybody knows of any
>> > good brands and places I should look up within the city, please let me
>> > know either through the mailing list or off-list whichever is
>> > preferred.
>> >
>> > Looking to know.
>> >
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Re: [PLUG] plug-mail Digest, Vol 29, Issue 10

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Hi,

On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Omkar Nath Singh 
wrote:

> My wordings went wrong. I wanted to ask which Desktop variant. Debian 9
> has so many types of Desktop. It really confused me which and how to
> download.
> I would rather suggest them to provide easier navigation.
>

It all depends on your liking of the GUI environment. Debian gives you all
those options. Select the one which you are comfortable with. Debian
remains the same in the background.

Or else, as suggested, try various different environments using those live
images.

Regards
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> BTW, I have downloaded Debian 9 Gnome DVD version and will install it
> today!
>
> From
> Omkar Nath Singh
> Computer Engineering
> VIIT, Pune
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Re: [PLUG] An Important News Regarding FOSS

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Well done Milind !!
Keep up the good work !!!

Regards
-Sudhanwa



On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Milind Oka  wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> In reply to my letter, SSC/HSC board had assured to implement the open
> source policy in School Education. (Letter dated 19-05-2016)
> They only put footnotes in Syllabus that "open source software can be used
> in the ICT".  Of course convincing Schools
> and Jr Colleges to adopt FOSS only on this letter and footnote would not
> have been possible. So I called it as "Symbolic Exit of Microsoft".
>
> But I am too happy to inform you that on 1 July 2016 a proper circular was
> released which instructs schools and Jr colleges to prefer FOSS in clear
> words.
> I came to know about it through an HT article (Thanks to Dr Kamath, and to
> Prof Tayyab Ali for pointing out this article). Consequently "Maharashtra
> Times" published another one.
>
> I suppose this clears the most important hurdle in proliferation of FOSS.
>
> I take this opportunity to congratulate State Board for taking this
> decision in favor of FOSS.
>
> Links for two news paper articles and the circular :
>
> http://www.mediafire.com/view/4nqamkqxy2ps03i/HT-1-5-17.jpg
> http://www.mediafire.com/view/f4nhepll68s8fyy/MATA-2-5-17.jpg
> http://www.mediafire.com/file/a6410kf396tkuyl/Board_
> Circular_-_1_July_2016.pdf
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Milind
>
> Forwarding old thread for reference :
>
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject: Exit Of Microsoft from School Education ?
> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 10:24:19 +0530
> From: Milind Oka  
> To: plug-mail@plug.org.in
>
> Hi,
>
> On 27 may 2016, Maharashtra State Board of Secondary and Higher Secondary
> Education has given a reply to my notice. Maharashtra State Board was
> neglecting Open Source directives given by MHRD. Though the Circular in
> this regard was issued, it was published in the education booklet "Shikshan
> Sankraman" !. The circular as Important as this, which could have saved
> huge amounts for Schools, must have been given to Schools directly and it
> must have been given wide publicity in major news papers.
>
> The Board's claim that by putting a note - "Schools and Colleges can use
> Open Source Software" on index page, they have followed directions given by
> MHRD is ridiculous. In the remaining pages of the reply, Board has given
> photocopies copies of the changes they have made in 2016-17 text books to
> be printed soon, and they have clarified further that Open Source can be
> used in "Theory as well as in Practicals" which is very important.
>
> Note that MHRD has used the word "PREFER" while Board is cleverly using
> "CAN"  !
>
> Anyway, I assume that this is only a symbolic exit of Microsoft from
> State's Schools Education.
>
> This covers State Schools and Junior Colleges in Maharashtra. But
> University Education too is compelling degree colleges to use proprietary
> software. Situation is somewhat better in Engineering courses but in the
> courses such as Computer Applications (TYBcom), there are softwares like MS
> Excel and Visual Basic. Also there are direct questions in the examination
> on the commands used in Excel and VB. I am going to send similar letter to
> Mumbai University too.
>
> Also the course  MS-ACIT has been made mandatory for teachers. This course
> is exclusively an advertisement of Microsoft and other other proprietary
> software. Since after removing proprietary software from school. This
> course, which itself is a violation of MHRD notification, becomes
> meaningless for teachers. Hence appropriate changes are necessary in this
> course curriculum. We have to follow this matter in Education Department.
>
> I request all to help Schools in Maharashtra aware of the purpose and
> significance of this change and make open source movement stronger.
> Otherwise it will remain only on paper.
>
> http://www.mediafire.com/view/seufdy593ocbaiu/Notice_To_SSC-HSC_Board.jpg
> http://www.mediafire.com/view/uccych8u0hnqt6g/Notice_To_SSC-
> HSC_Board_%28Reply%29.jpg
> http://www.mediafire.com/download/nouxfd9a1hxnwd4/MHRD_
> -_Remove_Microsoft.pdf
>
>
> -- Milind
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Re: [PLUG] Fwd: [fsug-goa] Fwd: Reminder: ClipArt Hackathon 12th March 2017 Pune

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 10:44 PM, Dhanesh B. Sabane 
wrote:

> On Wednesday 08 March 2017 10:15 PM, Gaurav Pant wrote:
> >
> > I think it would be really simple that people upload the image on there
> blogs/sites and keep sharing the links on org.
> >
> > We can put these links on the plug site event page.
> >
>
> Yes. Agreed. That seems like a feasible option. So shall we finalize that
> an online version will happen at this hackathon?
>

Uploading on wikipedia commons directly will be the best choice !! Just
create a category for the event for easy access.
Check out https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

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[PLUG] Fwd: [fsug-goa] Fwd: Reminder: ClipArt Hackathon 12th March 2017 Pune

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Can we also have an online version of this? Via Twitter etc?
For those who are not based in Pune...
FN

On 8 March 2017 at 15:28, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com
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>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Gaurav Pant <gaurav...@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 8:16 AM
> Subject: [PLUG] Reminder: ClipArt Hackathon 12th March 2017 Pune
> To: Pune GNU/Linux Users Group <plug-mail@plug.org.in>
>
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Just are reminder about the the ClipArt Hackathon.
>
> The idea is simple, come to Hackathon and contribute to the FOSS
> community with your creativity.
>
> We plan to generate (as many as possible) cliparts using the FOSS
> tools like Inkscape, Dia, Xfig, GIMP etc.
>
> The Hackathon will be on:
> Sunday 12th March 2017 -- 10:00 Hrs to 16:00 Hrs.
>
> Venue:
> BHASKARACHARYA PRATISHTHANA
> 56/14, Erandavane, Damle Path,
> Off Law College Road, PUNE - 411 004.
>
> For registration and other details check out the following link
> http://www.plug.org.in/node/31
>
> Note: Food will be in PotLuck style ;) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki
> /Potluck)
>
> Please forward this to you friends and other mailing lists.
>
> Regards
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Re: [PLUG] Need suggestion to run freebsd on Lenovo Thinkpad e460

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:36 PM, Anonymous Someone <
amarendra.godb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Sudhanwa! It's exciting to be back on PLUG - I have so many
> fond memories of this group.
>
> macOS for office and OpenBSD on personal laptop are my BSD distros.
> Debian for Linux. Windows when things won't work on either.
>
> Cool !!
Nice to get some system level security experts back on the list !!

Regards
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> Thanks.
>
> -ag
>
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 11:45 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar
> <sudhanwa@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Nice to see you back on the list Amarendra !!
> >
> > I was not sure if you will be responding to the BSD help.
> > What is your current BSD distro?
> >
> > Regards
> > -Sudhanwa
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 10:41 PM, Anonymous Someone
> > <amarendra.godb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 5:08 AM, Pritam Dulam <yellowpe...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> > I planning to buy a Lenovo Thinkpad e460. I have read few post on wifi
> >> > not working on laptops.
> >>
> >> What WiFi adapter/chipset does *this* ThinkPad E460 use? "WiFi not
> >> working on laptops" is a pretty broad and sweeping statement, and
> >> without the specific details (WiFi adapter, FreeBSD version you want
> >> to install, etc), any guidance this group offers will be "educated
> >> guess" at best. :-)
> >>
> >> > Could someone help me confirm if freebsd runs fine on this model. So
> >> > that I can buy it.
> >>
> >> You need to provide the WiFi chipset/adapter details as well as
> >> FreeBSD version for anyone to help you here.
> >>
> >> Its always best to do your homework, so the kind folks on this list
> >> can quickly guide you. Expecting us to do the homework is lazy at
> >> best, arrogant at worst. ;-)
> >>
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Pritam
> >>
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Re: [PLUG] Need suggestion to run freebsd on Lenovo Thinkpad e460

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Nice to see you back on the list Amarendra !!

I was not sure if you will be responding to the BSD help.
What is your current BSD distro?

Regards
-Sudhanwa


On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 10:41 PM, Anonymous Someone <
amarendra.godb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 5:08 AM, Pritam Dulam 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > I planning to buy a Lenovo Thinkpad e460. I have read few post on wifi
> not working on laptops.
>
> What WiFi adapter/chipset does *this* ThinkPad E460 use? "WiFi not
> working on laptops" is a pretty broad and sweeping statement, and
> without the specific details (WiFi adapter, FreeBSD version you want
> to install, etc), any guidance this group offers will be "educated
> guess" at best. :-)
>
> > Could someone help me confirm if freebsd runs fine on this model. So
> that I can buy it.
>
> You need to provide the WiFi chipset/adapter details as well as
> FreeBSD version for anyone to help you here.
>
> Its always best to do your homework, so the kind folks on this list
> can quickly guide you. Expecting us to do the homework is lazy at
> best, arrogant at worst. ;-)
>
> > Thanks,
> > Pritam
>
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[PLUG] Fwd: [fsug-goa] Doudou Linux

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-- Forwarded message --
From: Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
fredericknoro...@gmail.com [fsug-goa] 
Date: Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 7:33 AM
Subject: [fsug-goa] Doudou Linux
To: fsug-...@yahoogroups.com, fsug@groups.facebook.com, goa itp <
goa...@gmail.com>, Vincent Toscano 




http://www.doudoulinux.org/web/english/index.html

x also makes it *easy for Dad and Mum*. Available as an autorun CDROM,
DoudouLinux does not need installing. It does not touch the data in the
computer it runs on, nor the system installed on the computer. Shipped with
built-incontent filtering
,
it prevents children from accidentally visiting unsavory web sites [2
]. It also
preserves user
privacy on the Internet
,
removes ads in web pages and blocks *bugs*, to get the best web experience.
You can carry it everywhere and let children on any computer without
worrying. DoudouLinux can be lent, offered, loaned, copied as often as you
want. Just like they do on the school playground! *This is fully legal*, so
DoudouLinux is really risk free from all points of view.
Download the CD nowDonate 

DoudouLinux 2.1 Hyperborea English

(1
GB)

SHA1 checksum db71106917b82b7dae9f39803d369db4a8393296

   - Torrent
   


   - Other language or other version
   

[image: Earth - gartoon {PNG}]
DoudouLinux also aims
at making computers accessible to *all children on earth*, with no
discrimination, to incite them really master technology – read our manifesto
.
For this reason the *DoudouLinux.org* web site lets you freely download
full versions and will always do so. No need to ship advertisement, no need
of an AppStore, no hidden fee or intention, DoudouLinux is designed by a
community of parents for parents and their children. If your really
appreciate our work, we invite you to support our project by making a
donation  or bypurchasing products
.

Moreover, DoudouLinux is available in many languages so that each child
will feel comfortable when he begins reading. We currently support 44
languages [3 ]. More
than 60 languages can be generated [4
], but translation
quality is, unfortunately, not homogeneous between languages [5
]. If you would like
to help translating your language, please get in touch
.

Read more…

Footnotes

[1 ] Anyway, Dad and
Mum will need to practice at night if they don’t want to feel too
ridiculous!

[2 ] This
functionality is still under testing for several languages such as Arabic,
Romanian, Serbian and Ukrainian, as well as the demonstration languages.

[3 ] Arabic,
Armenian, Bengali, Burmese, Chinese (China and Taiwan), Croatian, Czech,
Danish, Dutch, English, Esperanto, Finnish, French, Galician, German,
Greek, Hebrew, Hindi, Hungarian, Indonesian, Italian, Latvian, Lithuanian,
Luxembourgian, Malay, Marathi, Norwegian (Bokmål and Nynorsk), Persian,
Polish, Portuguese (Brazil and Portugal), Punjabi, Romanian, Russian,
Scottish Gaelic, Serbian, Spanish, Swedish, Tajik, Telugu, Turkish and
Ukrainian.

[4 ] DoudouLinux is
already available for download in many languages, but it is possible to
rebuild a DoudouLinux in even more languages.

[5 ] The CD
translation progress can be browsed online on Transifex
.

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Re: [PLUG] PDF reader with dual page fullscreen view

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

Not sure if you are referring "Evince". (https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evince)

It can show multiple pages-not just 2.
Tried it for multipage view. Works well for me.

-Sudhanwa

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 8:30 PM, Mayuresh  wrote:

> I normally prefer mupdf, which is fast and has convenient key bindings
> etc.
>
> Now I have got a wide screen and wish to use the dual page feature, which
> mupdf doesn't have. I get that with evince, but can't get rid of the
> toolbar at the top i.e. there is no dual page fullscreen mode in evince.
> (Or is there?)
>
> There is an ancient adobe acrobat version for Linux which meets the
> requirement of dual page fullscreen mode. However this reader is terribly
> slow.
>
> Any suggestons?
>
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Re: [PLUG] Need help in choosing new laptop for Linux use.

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 6:43 PM, Atul Sowani  wrote:

> Thanks all for your replies. So far I was focusing only on HP and Dell,
> however I will check Lenovo as well. (I think this Chinese company bought
> IBM's laptop business, right?)
>
> I think I am right in not going for a dedicated graphics card. I will
> stick to Intel graphics.
>


If you have not purchased laptop already, there are some good options
available currently on various ecommerce sites.
Found a suitable one here:
http://www.shopclues.com/acer-aspire-e5-es1-571-558z-core-i5-4th-gen-4-gb-1-tb-hdd-linux-notebook-nx.gcesi.022.html

Intel core I5, 4GB, 1 TB. Ubuntu . International warranty, onsite support
!! Only negative side seems to be the weight. But normally if you need high
battery life and bigger screen, weight will be high.

Regards
-Sudhanwa




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Re: [PLUG] PLUG meeting for the month of October 2016

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 8:40 AM, Gaurav Pant  wrote:

> The PLUG meeting for this month will be on Saturday 8th October 2016.
> The meeting is open to all, there are no charges to attend the meeting.
>
> Venue:
> Symbiosis Institute of Computer Studies and Research (SICSR)
> Room No. 704, (7th Floor - Room number may change)
> Atur Centre, Gokhale Cross Road, Model Colony,
> Pune, Maharashtra 411016
> (Near Deep Bungalow Chowk, Ask for OM Super Market)
>
> Date:
> Saturday 8th October 2016.
>
> Timing:
> 04:00 PM to 06:00 PM
>
>
> Agenda:
> 04:00 PM - 04:05 PM
> Meeting Start - Introduction and overview of PLUG - By Gaurav Pant
>
> 04:05 PM - 04:15 PM
> Introduction by participants
>
> 04:15 PM - 04:45 PM
> Review of 2016 edition of FUEL-GILT conference which took place
> recently (Dates: 24, 25th September 2016. in New Delhi.)  What is the
> FUEL project, and review of the FUEL-GILT conference. By
> (Karunakar/Sudhanwa)
> More details at http://fuelproject.org/
>

 Raju Vindhane was also there in the conference. He can also share his
experiences.

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[PLUG] Get the source code used in your Mercedes Benz car

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Looks like all Mercedes Benz cars use Free/Open source software to a great
extent.

If you own any of their cars, you can get source code for any GPL or LGPL
software for your car.

Read more here:
http://moba.i.daimler.com/bai-cars/ba/foss/content/en/assets/FOSS_licences.pdf

-Sudhanwa
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Re: [PLUG] New Group: Plug on Telegram

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Some 10 years back, the channel was really buzzing with people. Nowadays
the new generation is interested to be on whatsapp, FB and other social
media compared to IRC.
Well, 10 years is almost a generation !!


On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 8:10 AM, Swapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap)  wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 11:33 AM,   wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On 08-Aug-2016, at 10:21 AM, Swapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) <
> m...@coolsvap.net> wrote:
> >> 
> >
> >> mailing list + irc (and a review/tracking system, which we do not
> >> require in PLUG as of now) is what is required for an interactive open
> >> source community. We already have a mailing list, start an IRC channel
> >> on Freenode and we should be good.
> >> __
> >
> > There is #pluggies on freenode  that used to be frequented by folk back
> in the day.
>
> Joined the channel. The channel seem to be not used. Maybe we can
> start using it more often.
>
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Re: [PLUG] email client

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Amey Abhyankar <sco1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 3 August 2016 at 13:54, Sudhanwa Jogalekar <sudhanwa@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > There is a need to use a desktop based email client instead of webmail.
> User
> > is not familiar with CLI, so pine and mutt are out of question.
>
> Can you disclose name of e-mail service provider?
> It's a public e-mail service provider i.e. Google,Microsoft etc or
> corporate/private hosted e-mail server like Microsoft Exchange,IBM
> Lotus Domino,SendMail,Zimbra?
>

That does not really matter. The server might also change from time to time
keeping the username, domain name same. As such IMAP may not be suitable(As
suggested by some others)

Looks like Thunderbird is used by many.

Regards
-Sudhanwa



> >
> > The requirement is that the users mails should/can be moved across
> various
> > operating systems/Linux distros or even various Windows  versions. That
> too
> > without any data loss.
> >
> > Can you please suggest some good email client for this purpose. Please
> share
> > your experiences in this activity of usage, migration.
> >
> > Not to forget about the multiple accounts across various domains and the
> > keys.
> >
> > Regards
> > -Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] email client

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

There is a need to use a desktop based email client instead of webmail.
User is not familiar with CLI, so pine and mutt are out of question.

The requirement is that the users mails should/can be moved across various
operating systems/Linux distros or even various Windows  versions. That too
without any data loss.

Can you please suggest some good email client for this purpose. Please
share your experiences in this activity of usage, migration.

Not to forget about the multiple accounts across various domains and the
keys.

Regards
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Re: [PLUG] openSUSE conference 2016 recorded sessions available

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Amey Abhyankar <sco1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 21 July 2016 at 23:26, Sudhanwa Jogalekar <sudhanwa@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Dear Amey,
> >
> > Please share your experiences of attending the conference.
>
> Sure.
>
> This was my 5th consecutive in-person attendance at openSUSE conference.
> Thanks to openSUSE's 'Travel Support Program'.
>
> openSUSE Linux isn't that famous in India compare to other Linux
> distro's like UBUNTU,Fedora,Debian & other.
> I worked in telecom domain for long time & I kept doing R about
> which is the best compatible open source distro to push in to
> proprietary software world in telecom domain. [ OSS/BSS both]
> Integration of proprietary software's with open source platform is
> always challenging in corporate world. [Specially in prod env.]
> openSUSE gave me much flexibility in this matter & I continued
> using,promoting & marketing openSUSE. [ For example integration of
> Microsoft products inc Active Directory,Microsoft Exchange, Office 365
> at some extent,Cisco VPN technologies,SAP & etc]
>
> openSUSE introduced TSP back in 2012 for 1st time when I applied for
> the same. [ TSP = Travel Support Program ]
> Just to give a quick hint how TSP works = They evaluate our overall
> contribution to the project & they decide TSP grant.
> Same applies to Debian Conference. So it's not a free trip.
> Contribution has to be visible.
> I am not a programmer or hard core developer.
> So, don't think that only developers & coders get travel support
> sponsorship at such open source conferences overseas.
>
> Now let me jump to the openSUSE conference briefing.
> What happens there? What kind of people attend openSUSE conference?
> What sessions openSUSE conference has? Do they take interview of
> contributor to validate there skillets or asks tons of questions?
> Asian contributors being shy, worry exists in mind although we carry
> same level of expertise as contributors from Europe,North
> America,Australia etc.
>
> Here are some quick answers =  openSUSE is a open source community
> based project & SUSE is always the main sponsor of oSC. Conference
> length is 5 days. You can expect reasonable SUSE employees at oSC's
> who are also part of openSUSE community & individual contributors.
> Sessions are focused on topics related to openSUSE project, Libre
> Office & variety of other open source technologies. openSUSE is a
> community project so on 1 has to get involved himself. No1 going to
> ask any tough interview like questions during the conference. Not even
> openSUSE board members. It's perfectly ok to have a chit chat with
> board members, core developers etc without any hesitation. And also
> there is a live project meeting in each oSC where contributors can
> give suggestions,ideas,complaints etc. There is also live streaming of
> oSC's & recorded sessions are available at opensusetv YouTube channel.
>
> Apart of technical talks, there are fun activities as well. This year
> at oSC there was SUSE band, beer garden with openSUSE beer, sponsored
> food by various sponsors.. Last year there were retro games for free,
> sponsored food, below 10Euro in house accommodation & much more. And
> yes person in blazer,shirt,office shoes is a odd man out at oSC's. ;-)
>
> There are few number of attendees from India at oSC till date. We were
> 2~3 people from India who used to attend oSC. This year it was just me
> from India. Few folks from SUSE lab's Beijing & Taipei office were
> present.
>
> Usually where openSUSE conference helds at? =
>
> i) 2012 oSC was at Czech technical university in Prague , Czech
> Republic / Group photo =
>
> https://news.opensuse.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Day2-Sunday-068_DSC_7651.jpg
> ii) 2013 oSC was at Olympic museum in Thessaloniki, Greece / Group
> photo =  https://news.opensuse.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/MG_4865.jpg
> iii) 2014 oSC was held at Dubrovnik university, Dubrovnik city,
> Croatia / Group photo =
> https://news.opensuse.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/CSC_0177.jpg
> iv) 2015 oSC was held at Den Haag, The Netherlands / Group photo =
>
> http://www.linux-magazine.com/var/linux_magazin/storage/images/issues/2015/176/opensuse-conference-2015/figure-2/651976-1-eng-US/Figure-2_reference.png
> v) 2016 oSC was at Nuremberg, Germany. / Group photo =
> https://thefreecountry.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/dsc_0007_1.jpg
>
> So yes openSUSE conference host cities are within Europe always.
> 3 years back openSUSE started hosting 'openSUSE Asia' summit which
> till date got tremendous response.
> 1st oSC was in Bejing, last year it was at Taipei & this year openSUSE
> Asia s

Re: [PLUG] openSUSE conference 2016 recorded sessions available

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Dear Amey,

Please share your experiences of attending the conference.

Regards
-Sudhanwa


On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 4:53 PM, Amey Abhyankar  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> This year openSUSE conference aka oSC was held at Nuremberg, Germany
> in last week of June.
>
> Recorded video sessions from oSC16 =
> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_AMhvchzBaeIQntCDiVNUUgmRaAzam1V
>
> oSC16 group photo =
> https://news.opensuse.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/DSC_0007_1.jpg
>
> openSUSE conference returned back to Nuremberg after 4 years.
> Nuremberg is base/HQ of SUSE Linux.
> Needless to say, SUSE Linux is always 1 of the main/core sponsor of
> openSUSE conference.
>
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Re: [PLUG] Contents are obsolete at plug.org.in/foss-cds-and-dvds

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Amey Abhyankar  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I observed today, contents are outdated/obsolete at following link =
> http://www.plug.org.in/foss-cds-and-dvds
>

Except the list of Distros, everything else is still valid.
I suppose our webmaster will take care of it now.

Thanks for pointing it out.

Regards
-Sudhanwa



> Pls update.  :-)
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[PLUG] ​Microsoft and Canonical partner to bring Ubuntu to Windows 10

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*​Microsoft and Canonical partner to bring Ubuntu to Windows 10*

Read more here

http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-and-canonical-partner-to-bring-ubuntu-to-windows-10/
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[PLUG] Hacker explains how he put "backdoor" in hundreds of Linux Mint downloads

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Hacker explains how he put "backdoor" in hundreds of Linux Mint downloads

Read more here:
http://www.zdnet.com/article/hacker-hundreds-were-tricked-into-installing-linux-mint-backdoor/?tag=nl.e539_cid=e539=e539=TRE17cfd61

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[PLUG] GNUnify 2016 on 12,13 Feb.... Join us there...

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

GNUnify 2016 is very close by. Just a day left now  Join us to gain
more knowledge on IOT. Do some hands on on devices !! Understand what
Unicode is. Create fonts in lab !!! Understand your web presence using
Drupal !! Dont miss the BIG DATA !!! All this is happening at GNUnify !!!
And its all FRE !

Have you registered?

Not yet? H. Visit http://gnunify.in and register there.
See you there on 12, 13th !!!

Regards
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[PLUG] GNUnify 2016 delegate registraton

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi friends,

You must be aware of our annual FOSS conerence GNUnify.

This year, it is happening on 12,13 February.
Delegate registration is already open. Schedule will be published soon.

Please register on the website www.gnunify.in.

See you at the conference.
Regards
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Re: [PLUG] Sir, the whole country is burning and you are dreaming award for spoken tutorials !

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Please raise your concerns to Hindustan Times who are giving the awards.
Followup with MHRD is necessary for any kind of reply and/or action.

I can help in contacting Mr. P. A. Inamdar (of Poona college and other
associate institutes). He is pro FOSS.

Regards,

-Sudhanwa
On Jan 17, 2016 12:02 PM, "Milind Oka"  wrote:

> THE WHOLE COUNTRY IS BURNING & YOU ARE DREAMING ABOUT AWARD FOR SOPKEN
> TUTORIAL !
>
> OPEN LETTER TO PROF KANNAN (IIT , MUMBAI)
>
> Dear Prof Kannan
>
> Sir,
>
> I am really very happy if you get award but 
>
> Please read it carefully
> 
> (True Copy)
>
> Government of India
> Ministry of Human Resource Development
> (School-5 Section)
> New Delhi, Shastri Bhavan
> Dated : 17.06.2014
>
> Subject: National Policy on Information and Communication Technology in
> School Education to adopt free and open source software (FOSS) Regarding.
>
> Sir/Madam,
>
> 1. The undersigned is directed to refer herewith to a letter received in
> the Ministry of Human Resource Development on the subject mentioned above
> and to say that attention of MHRD has been called to the National Education
> Policy on Information Communication Technology (NPICT) in School Education,
> All Central/State SSC/HSC boards have ICT subject in their curriculum and
> conduct the Examination on ICT papers. Softwares like Adobe Photoshop,
> Adobe Illustrator, M.S. Window, M.S. Office software has been made
> mandatory for framing and answering in the examination by Boards and a huge
> amount is spent for acquiring proprietary software by the affiliated
> schools. This decision of the Boards etc. is not in line with NPICT in
> school education. There is a concern that the amount spent on acquiring
> proprietary licensed software is recovered from the students, which brings
> serious implication on poor and needy students.
>
> 2. As you are aware that national ICT policy in School Education
> underlines a preference to adopt free and open source software-operating
> system and software applications in order to expand the range of learning
> creation and sharing. The ICT curriculum developed by the NCERT for the
> ICT@schools scheme of the MHRD is based on a Free and Open Source
> Platform and includes an operating system with pre-installed software for
> all application. State Government is advised to adopt the ICT curriculum
> and model your syllabi around this curriculum.
>
> 3. In the light of above you may consider an advisory to be issued to all
> educational bodies in the State/UT, to guide and suggest multiple and
> generic alternatives for the ICT content and to prefer free and open source
> alternatives, making ICT education cost effective and ethical.
>
> 4. The action taken report may be furnished to the Ministry at the
> earliest.
>
> (Subhendu Das)
> Under Secretary (RMSA-1)
>
> To
> Education Secretary (All States/Uts)
>
> Copy To :
>
> 1. RMSA State Project Director of all States/Uts
>
> 2. P. A. Inamdar, Member CABE
>
> 3. Joint Director, CIET/NCERT
>
> ==
> It is clear that MHRD has violated its own policy deliberately in favor of
> Microsoft right from 2012 or perhaps before that.
>
> Even after their Notification/Memo to all states, go to any school,
> college, university and government office and see with open eyes how
> Microsoft is worshiped, spending trillions of dollars of foreign currency
> and pushing our country in to a danger zone !
>
> Following is a written documented evidence of unfortunate (and deliberate)
> negligence of Maharashtra State (and most of the other states).
> =
>
> Taken from RTI reply received to me from MHRD dated 21 Sept 15:
> ..
> ..
> With regard to the item no. 3 of the RTI application the CPIO concerned
> has informed that no action taken report has been received from the State
> of Maharashtra in respect of the Ministry of Human Resource Development
> letter dated 17.06.2014. Therefore no copy of action taken report from
> State of Maharashtra can be provided.
> The appeal has been accordingly disposed off.
>
> 
>
> Do you really think that spoken tutorial is doing something great in FOSS
> 
>
> Far more serious thing is that MHRD is funding spoken tutorials clearly
> knowing that thousand such spoken tutorials cannot do any harm to
> proprietary giants like Microsoft and others unless MHRD removes
> proprietary software from school. (Have you forgot Richard Stallman ?)
>
> Why don't you ask MHRD about NOT following their own policy before
> accepting funds from them as your mission is FOSS ??!!
>
> I have done the following instead of spoken tutorials ( since I am not IIT
> Professor but a school teacher)
>
> =
>
> Sir/Madam, Your case is filed in Bombay High Court on 2015-08-06 11:28:58,
> Case Stamp Number is 

[PLUG] ​What's new and nifty in Linux 4.4

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

*​What's new and nifty in Linux 4.4*

Check out this article :

http://www.zdnet.com/article/whats-new-and-nifty-in-linux-4-4/?tag=nl.e539_cid=e539=e539=TRE17cfd61

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[PLUG] Marathi book on Richard Stallman released.

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

A book on RMS and his work is published recently. Book name is "फुकट नाही,
मुक्त " written by Arun Kelkar. This is a translation of the book "Free as
in Freedom" by Sam Williams.
Publisher is Akshar prakashan. Pages 208. Price rs. 225.

The book is published under GNU FDL.

A review of the book is published in Maharashtra times "Sanwad" supplement
in today's paper.

Do read and post your views.

- Sudhanwa
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[PLUG] Fwd: [Indlinux-group] Raspberry Pi Zero: the $5 computer

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

FYI
-- Forwarded message --
From: "Siji Sunny" 
Date: Nov 26, 2015 6:26 PM
Subject: [Indlinux-group] Raspberry Pi Zero: the $5 computer
To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" ,
"Indian Linux group ," , <
openarm...@googlegroups.com>
Cc:

The Raspberry Pi Zero is half the size of a Model A+, with twice the
utility. A tiny Raspberry Pi that’s affordable enough for any project!

   - 1Ghz, Single-core CPU
   - 512MB RAM
   - Mini HDMI and USB On-The-Go ports
   - Micro USB power
   - HAT-compatible 40-pin header
   - Composite video and reset headers

https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/pi-zero/

-- 
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Re: [PLUG] PLUG meeting washed out due to unseasonal rains

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

I have not received confirmation mail but got other mails in the thread.
On Oct 11, 2015 9:01 AM, "Gaurav Pant"  wrote:

> Interestingly I and few others did not receive the mails of PLUG meet
> announcement. If others have not recieved the same please notify about the
> same here.
> --
> Dexter
>
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 10:11 PM, Mayuresh  wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 09:44:26PM +0530, shirish wrote:
>> > This was something that was being shared between Manjusha and me. What
>> I/We
>> > meant was that even today whether you look at 40 years old people or
>> early
>> > 20's youth they still do not know that something like FOSS exists.
>>
>> Nothing to do with age really. More to do with exposure and enthusiasm.
>>
>> > I have also been under the impression as most of us are that people know
>> > about FOSS generally but the truth is, it's only when you work in
>> companies
>> > which use FOSS then you come to know about it.
>>
>> Not really. There would be many on PLUG list who virtually educated their
>> employers about FOSS.
>>
>> > And for the 40 year olds, most of them have a stable job/life so they
>> are
>> > not much enthusiastic to learn these 'new-fangled' ideas as I have been
>> > told/shared by people over time and in different workshops.
>>
>> Again nothing to do with age.
>>
>> FOSS is not that new. Several of 40+ (that includes the most celebrated
>> OSS developer in the world, no points for guessing) and even 60+ (
>> considering the big R's age now, guess the big R of open source if you
>> don't know) and several lesser mortals who were early adopters on whose
>> effort we stand wherever we do today.
>>
>> [I do not know a suitable title for this thread. Request to modify the
>> subject suitably.]
>>
>> Mayuresh
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[PLUG] India adopts a comprehensive open source policy

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India adopts a comprehensive open source policy. Read this article here :

http://opensource.com/government/15/8/india-adopts-open-source-policy
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[PLUG] Apache Spark

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Anyone knows about Apache Spark? Seems to be interesting.

Read more here:

Apache Spark 1.4 adds R language and hardened machine-learning
http://www.zdnet.com/article/apache-spark-1-4-adds-r-language-and-hardened-machine-learning/?tag=nl.e539s_cid=e539ttag=e539ftag=TRE17cfd61

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Re: [PLUG] Looking for dental X ray system that works with Linux

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

I think most medical equipment these days have USB interface. Possibly use
the same for image transfer.
 On Apr 30, 2015 9:09 AM, Mayuresh mayur...@acm.org wrote:

 I am looking for a dental (digital) xray system that would allow me to
 gather images on Linux.

 There are several products out there that seem to work only with Windows.

 Would appreciate pointers in this regard.

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Re: [PLUG] Please Sign The Petition

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Mayuresh mayur...@acm.org wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 09, 2015 at 10:12:24PM +0530, Milind Oka wrote:
 Please sign the petition on the following link and share it via
 Facebook, WhatsApp and email

 Can the OP/others who know about the project, elaborate more on its goals,
 purpose etc? And which of those are not being met by any of the existing
 FOSS systems (or can't be met by just extending them).


IIRC, some years back, we had received some copies of BOSS during some
event and we distributed them.
That time it was not a good polished product. Full of bugs and
usabilitiy issues. I tried it myself and was not happy. Was not worth
shifting from my usual distribution.

Later on, the project halted/shifted from IRC-FOSS(I think they were
the initial developers). Probably C-DAC is working on it now.

I dont think the developers have seriously considered the requirements
of Indians to make the distro. Actually, it is very difficult to
crystalise any such requirements. Probably, now it has just become one
of the projects for C-DAC.

Apart from this, views/pespectives expressed by Amarendra and others
are also fine considering they talk about it as a tool. We had a
different thread on this and you can check it in archives. No further
comment right now.

Regards
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Re: [PLUG] Good 20K Laptops for LAMP based web development

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 4:30 PM, G Karunakar indli...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Gaurav Pant gaurav...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello people,

 I am looking forward to buying laptops around 20K. The online shopping sites
 are having many of them having AMD Kabini processor having speeds of 1 GHz
 to 1.5 GHz.

 Also loads of P4 and Celeron dual core stuff is out there.

 What are your reviews if you have used the same.

 My main purpose will be Running a LAMP set-up (XFCE type desktop). (MySQL
 and Apache will be started when needed).

 Majority of the time it will be a Mozilla Firefox with around 5-8 tabs open.

 considering a laptop life of around 3 years (any thing more than that will
 be bonus period) I am not interested in spending any more than 20-22K INR.



 I have Thinkpad x120e (11.6 screen) which has AMD APU E350 (low end
 compared to Kabini ones), with 4GB RAM. Found this good enough for
 multi purpose use, doing all above without much of cpu load factor.
 Any dual core cpu or APU outperforming a E350 , I would say is worth
 it.

 Online shopping sites give you enough to sort the models, but some 
 suggestions:
  - see that you can add more ram (there should be extra slot - some
 sub 20K ones have only 1 slot and not configurable)
  - 6 cell battery
  - HDD replacable - ie you can change without voiding warranty. You
 may later want to put in a SSD which will easily double the speed.
  - if possible screen size 14 or less
  - would be bonus if it has USB 3.0 ports.

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Even though you may not require virtualisation today, that could be a
requirement anytime soon.
Consider a machine that can give you Virtualisation facilities. The
machines mentioned here may not provide the same. The price will also
increase accordingly.

Regards
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Re: [PLUG] [Plug-mail] GNUnify 2015

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

  On 23 February 2015 at 12:04, Shakthi Kannan shakthim...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  One cannot compare apples to oranges.
 
  I agree but Pune can be an important place for a Pan India event like
  Foss dot in . There definitely is a space for an Indian event. Having
  RH office with localisation team of all languages is also a main
  factor here. Agreed that it does better when compared to other small
  events across country. Is there a scope of bigger event ? That was a
  question .. I am wondering !
 

 Generic type events are no longer happening, if you see all events,


 BTW - I saw advt for Open Source India convention in Open source for You
 magazine today
 http://osidays.com/osidays/

 Is this similar to FOSS.IN ?

 -Mandar


The Hierarchy of Information Security Talks

Here is an interesting article about conferences. It is from the
information security domain. Wish there was some similar analysis
available for FOSS conferences. Probably, pluggies working in the data
analysis domain can make one.

Here is the URL:
https://danielmiessler.com/blog/hierarchy-information-security-talks/

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[PLUG] Migration of PLUG web hosting and mailing list.

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Dear Pluggies,

We will be migrating our website and mailing list from our current
server to a new server. This activity will be happening this weekend
(28Feb-1Mar).

All the current mailing list subscribers will be moved to the new
mailing list. As such, you will not require to add yourself again to
the new list.

The new list will be open and un-moderated. So, please be careful and
follow mailing list guidelines/etiquette.

Currently, migration work is already going on in the background.
Will be updating you again on the migration status on 2Mar.

If at all, some users are left out in the new list, please checkout
and  add yourself. It is recommended that all the users should reset
their mailing list password once we move to new server.

Thanks for your co-operation in the migration activities. Hoping that
the transition is smooth and trouble-free.

Thanks and regards,
-Sudhanwa


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Re: [PLUG] GNUnify 2015

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 8:08 AM, O_ओ.शो_O o.s@guruvision.com wrote:
 On Wednesday 18 Feb 2015 9:47:18 PM pavithran s wrote:
 On 12 February 2015 at 12:55, Sudhanwa Jogalekar
 sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote:
  GNUnify is our own major Free/Open Source Software (FOSS)
 conference
  happening every year. This time it will be held this week on 13th
  -14th Feb.

 Just curious , now that there is no FOSS.IN why is GNUNIFY not
 becoming the pan India event ? I understand its a small team running
 the event. I also am never aware of how exactly the event happens as I
 never have physically been at the event. Tell me what could make
 GNUNIFY the next Foss.in ?

 Regards,
 Pavi


 May sound out of place/sync, but why there is NO.FOSS.IN anymore? You
 mean there no freedom without GNUNIFY?

After the death of Atul Chitnis, I think the organisors decided not to
continue foss.in further.


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[PLUG] GNUnify 2015

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Dear pluggies,


GNUnify is our own major Free/Open Source Software (FOSS) conference
happening every year. This time it will be held this week on 13th
-14th Feb.

This year, we have about 40 speakers from Mozilla, OpenStack, Drupal, Android
and other FOSS communities  We also have sessions on Security, Python
programming etc.

In addition to this, for the first time, we are going to have a
Job/Internship mela for FOSS companies.

Do join the conference so as to meet various speakers and also
community members and get some more insight on the things happening on
the technology front.

You can check out the event schedule on the conference website www.gnunify.in
Looking forward to meet you in the conference.

Best regards

-- Sudhanwa

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[PLUG] Fwd: [Mediawiki-i18n] Fwd: GNU i18n for high priority projects list

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Forwarded mail. FYI.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com
Date: Feb 1, 2015 4:22 AM
Subject: [Mediawiki-i18n] Fwd: GNU i18n for high priority projects list
To: MediaWiki internationalisation mediawiki-i...@lists.wikimedia.org
Cc:

 FYI :)

http://laxstrom.name/blag/2015/02/01/gnu-i18n-for-high-priority-projects-list/

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[PLUG] PLUG meeting for February 2015 is not happening.

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

PLUG meeting for February 2015 will not be conducted.
Considering that GNUnify is coming up next week, we need more time in
organising the conference.

Have you registered to attend GNUnify? If not, do it now !! Delegate
registration is already open. Check out http://gnunify.in

Regards
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[PLUG] Github, pastebin blocked

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/tech-news/Pastebin-Dailymotion-Github-blocked-after-DoT-order-Report/articleshow/45701713.cms
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Re: [PLUG] Why I won't be speaking at FOSSsumMIT 2104

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

On Dec 13, 2014 11:23 AM, Arun Khan knu...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Gaurav Pant gaurav...@gmail.com wrote:
  I will end the same by giving the simple example:
 
  You want to promote use of Khadi and you are giving you speech wearing a
  Armani Suit -- Does not work out for me.


+ 1

Remembered something (I think by RMS) You have the freedom to become
slaves .

Regards
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Re: [PLUG] Why I won't be speaking at FOSSsumMIT 2104

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

On Dec 6, 2014 2:22 AM, Abhijit Bhopatkar b...@devslashzero.com wrote:

 Little late reply but my two cents...

 Tools are tools are tools... computers and OS's are tools.

 Don't ban paper and pen because they are not strictly FOSS projects ...
get
 my point?


If anyone is ready to take up a bonded labour job?
Job is just a tool for making your living.
A tool is a tool is a tool.

Got the point.

 On 1 August 2014 at 14:27, ThinRhino thinrh...@gmail.com wrote:

  Folks,
 
  I was scheduled to give a talk at FOSSsumMIT 2104, but I was asked to
use
  a Open
  Source License compliant operating system to give the talk. I have
blogged
  about
  it in detail here - http://adityalaghate.in/no-to-symbolism.html
 
  The reason, I invoke this thread / discussion is that this happened to
me
  at two
  conferences and the common denominator was PLUG. I used be an active
  member of
  the list in it's heydays.
 
  I have used linux as my primary operating system ever since Redhat 6
  (prior to
  it being split into Fedora  RHEL). Used openSuse, debian  ubuntu over
the
  years. About 3 years back I moved to using a macbook pro, running OS X.
  This is
  my primary OS. I regularly work on projects, which utilise Linux based
  servers,
  so even today, I spent a good amount of time working with Linux.
 
  I am not a nerd or nor a geek, but somebody, who loves to play 
  experiment with
  technology.  Having spent a good amount of my time (close to 10-12
years)
  with
  Linux on various hardwares I am fully aware of the challenges the
GNU/Linux
  ecosystem can throw at you. I used to love solving those challenges
  earlier. Now
  it just frustrates me.
 
  Today, I prefer to work with a system that 'just works'  I can
  concentrate on
  utilising Open Source Licensed tool chains and applications to do my
work.
 
  I have not been able to understand the insistence by members of PLUG to
  use open
  source licensed OS for my presentation. My talk was titled, 'Data
Analysis
  using
  Python  Pandas'.
 
  If PLUG can make clear of it's stand it will be great.
 
  Thank you,
 
  Regards
  Aditya Laghate
 
  PS: This email was composed using VIM, sent via MUTT  MSMTP (all OSS)
 
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[PLUG] Fwd: [India-InfoSec] MHRD notice on use of FOSS for ICT education in schools

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Denzil Correa
Date: Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:56 PM
Subject: MHRD notice on use of FOSS for ICT education in schools


https://i.imgur.com/s1t1JuA.jpg

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[PLUG] Microsoft takes .NET open source and cross-platform

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

News

NEW YORK — Nov. 12, 2014 — On Wednesday, Microsoft Corp. reinforced
its commitment to cross-platform developer experiences by open
sourcing the full server-side .NET stack and expanding .NET to run on
the Linux and Mac OS platforms.

More details available here:
http://news.microsoft.com/2014/11/12/microsoft-takes-net-open-source-and-cross-platform-adds-new-development-capabilities-with-visual-studio-2015-net-2015-and-visual-studio-online/

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[PLUG] Fwd: [India-InfoSec] New shellshock vector - SMTP

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

FYI:


http://threatpost.com/shellshock-exploits-targeting-smtp-servers-at-webhosts/109034


https://isc.sans.edu/diary/Shellshock+via+SMTP/18879


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/28/shellshocked_via_email_smtp_attacks_on_the_rise/





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Re: [PLUG] Why I won't be speaking at FOSSsumMIT 2104

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:57 PM, ThinRhino thinrh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Folks,

 I was scheduled to give a talk at FOSSsumMIT 2104, but I was asked to use a 
 Open
 Source License compliant operating system to give the talk. I have blogged 
 about
 it in detail here - http://adityalaghate.in/no-to-symbolism.html

Read your blog. Could not understand the main reason of disagreement.
Probably it is the usage of Open Source Operating System for your presentation.

Also, your focus is more on the technology part. Conference focus
is/was FOSS. Technology comes as a part of it.

I think the basic difference starts there itself.
Nobody has objected to your code or the presentations or your
contribution to FOSS.
The conference being a FOSS conference, everything needs to be under
FOSS. It is as simple as that.

Well, there could be exceptions if the requirement of the topic needs
non-FOSS stuff. eg. if a talk is on FOSS tools to check security of
Linux distros on VMs running on Windows , then Windows will be
required and will be allowed in the presentation.

Looks like the requirements for the talk was sent to you very late. I
think this was a mistake. Considering that this event happened for the
first time, this is part of some mistakes that happened. Lets ignore
them. I am sure this is part of learning for the organisors.

Please note that PLUG's stand for FOSS still remains the same. I
remember that in one of the Gnunify, I helped a speaker to change his
presentation from windows-powerpoint to  Linux-Openoffice. This
happened some 2 hours before his talk. He was a senior person from
Intel who were one of the major sponsors for the conference. He had
landed in Pune just a few hours before his presentation and the
organisors had informed the speakers well in advance about the FOSS
requirements for presentations.

Mayuresh has also added some good points in his mail.

Any further discusisons are welcome. The brainstorming gives some good
ideas and thoughts for further work and organising good conferences.

Regards
-Sudhanwa


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[PLUG] free-intro-linux-online-course

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

You may be interested in this online course started on 1st..

http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-media/blogs/browse/2014/08/free-intro-linux-online-course-starts-today

Regards
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[PLUG] FOSS Summit 2014 conference

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

We are having a FOSS conference fosssummit 2014 this week on 1,2 August.
This is organised by PLUG and MIT college  of Engineering.

Various talks and hands on workshops on the following tracks will be
conducted in the conference.

Track 1 : Programming
Track 2 : Scientific Computing
Track 3 : Cloud Computing
Track 4 : Basic Linux
Track 5 : Networking
Track 6 : Big Data / Data Analytics


The schedule is being updated (subject to change) on the conference
website http://fosssummit.in

Entry is free and open to all. Please register on the website.

Do spread the word about this conference.

Thanks and regards
--Sudhanwa Jogalekar

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[PLUG] Is Red Hat Working for the NSA?

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Interesting reading here:


Is Red Hat Working for the NSA?

http://fossforce.com/2014/01/red-hat-working-nsa

Regards
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[PLUG] Whonix distro

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Anyone tried this Whonix distro? Seems to be interesting.
Please give your feedback/comments on this distro and/or any similar
products.

https://www.whonix.org/

--Sudhanwa

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[PLUG] Forwarded:: With deep regret and anguish, I wish to notify about sad and sudden demise of Sunil Beta Baskar

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Forwarding mail from Shyam Kundapurkar.

//~

-- Forwarded message --
From: Shyam Kundapurkar
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 02:29:01 -0800


Shyam Kundapurkar posted in VALU- VIT Active Linux Users

With deep regret and anguish, I wish to notify the members of VALU
about sad and sudden demise of Sunil Beta Baskar, a gentle geek who
knew the core Linux source in depth. Colossal loss for people in Pune
who believe in Linux and Open Source.

Reply to this email to comment on this post.

~~~//

Sunil was a real geek and a very techie person. He was active on PLUG
mailing list and used to come to the meetings. Some months back, he
conducted some workshops on Kernel programming in Pune University. In
Nov. 2012, he had a session in the PLUG meeting itself.

Till a few months back, he was in KPIT, Pune and then he shifted back
to his place in  Thanjavur.

His untimely death is a great loss to PLUG and the FOSS community.
May god rest his soul in peace.

This is his website:  http://sunilbetabaskar.com/

Linkedin profile is here:  http://in.linkedin.com/in/betasam

GooglePlus page is here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+SunilBetaBaskar/posts

And facebook page is here:  https://www.facebook.com/betasam


Regards
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[PLUG] Updated Aksharyogini font release in Open Font License

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Dear friends,

You may be aware that we (my family) have released a font family earlier.
Here is some background if you are not aware of it.

On the first death Anniversary of Yogini Joglekar(my aunt), our family
released AksharYogini (Normal) Font on 1st Nov. 2006. This font is
primarily for Marathi language but can also be used for Hindi (for any
language using Devanagari). It also has English support. Later on, on the
occasion of Gudhipadwa (Chaitra Shuddha 1, 1931; that is 27th March 2009) ,
we released the additional fonts to complete the AksharYogini font
family. This font family was/is made available on the site
http://aksharyogini.sudhanwa.com for free usage/distribution/sharing.


Today, on the occasion of Eighth Death Anniversary of Yogini Joglekar, we
are now releasing an updated AksharYogini font.  This font is also
available on the same website http://aksharyogini.sudhanwa.com

This is an updated font and has support for the new (MS Windows) operating
systems where the internal mechanism for font rendering is changed. Also,
it has additional characters for the current Unicode standard and the Rupee
Sign is also included.

Most important is the licensing. The new release is under the Open Font
License. As such, all Linux distributions will be able to freely use it in
their packaging.

Please feel free to use, share, distribute the new font. You can download
it from http://aksharyogini.sudhanwa.com .

Give us feedback on my email id or the official id for the font 
aksharyogini at sudhanwa.com  You can also comment on the guestbook on the
website.
Do share this news and also the font.

Wishing you a Very Happy Diwali !!

Thanks and regards
-Sudhanwa




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Re: [PLUG] Fwd: [OT/HW] How to unglue AMD Phenom II from it's heat sink?

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Arun Khan knu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Greetings HW enthusiasts,

 The motherboard of one of my system is RIP.When I took out the CPU
 heatsink+fan, it came out with the CPU firmly stuck to the copper!.

 I have tried to separate the CPU from the heat sink without much
 success.  I am afraid if I try any solution it might damage the CPU.

 Any suggestion to resolve this 'sticky' issue would be much appreciated.


IPA(Iso-propyl-alcohol) may help in the cleanup.

-Sudhanwa




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[PLUG] [Wikimediaindia-l] RIP Atul Chitnis.

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Forwarding a very sad news.
Some time back it was Raj, now Atul.
We lost 2 veteran FOSS evangelists.

RIP Atul.

-Sudhanwa


-- Forwarded message --
From: CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 2:39 PM
Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] RIP Atul Chitnis.
To: Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia.
wikimediaindi...@lists.wikimedia.org, Bangalore Wikimedia list
wikimedia-in-...@lists.wikimedia.org


Atul Chitnis, a Wikipedian from Bangalore  active open source
evangelist passed away today.

http://www.nextbigwhat.com/atul-chitnis-297/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atul_Chitnis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Achitnis
http://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools/pcount/index.php?name=Achitnislang=enwiki=wikipedia

May his soul Rest in Peace.
You will be missed.

Regards
Tinu Cherian

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[PLUG] The International Space Station's laptops are moving from Windows to Linux

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

FYI. Interesting reading.

~~~

The International Space Station's laptops are moving from Windows to
Linux, and R2, the first Linux-powered humanoid robot in space, is now
under-going in-flight testing.


http://www.zdnet.com/to-the-space-station-and-beyond-with-linux-714958/


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Re: [PLUG] Request for support

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Vikram Vincent vincentvik...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 A Prof. Radha Misra who is Professor  Head, Dept of Communcation
 Media for Children · Pune, sent me a message which I am forwarding.
 Could
 you please contact her and help. Thanks

Can you ask her to check www.plug.org.in and to join the mailing list.

As I know her, I will send her required info in direct message and
also guide to join PLUG.

Thanks
 -Sudhanwa


 msg
 Hi I teach at SNDT Women's University at Pune. Am interested in
 knowing free softwares in place of photoshop, corel draw, flash and
 dream weaver also if there are any in place of 3D max and Maya.
 We are trying to move from these branded softwares to free and open
 sourcewares..thanks.
 /msg
 https://www.facebook.com/misradha/
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