Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues
mherger wrote: The main problem I have found with WOL in ML is that OSX goes back to sleep after 30 sec unless some application sets a power assertion to prevent it. The attempts to use ReallyPreventStandby I proposed earlier in this thread, and also the new version of PreventStandby in the current 7.8 nightlies, do not reliably get in fast enough to set the power assertion before that timeout. I've been thinking about this a little more. The problem I'm seeing here is that we're deliberately _ignoring_ the first activity event in LMS after a resume, because a resume will _always_ trigger some activity, whether a SB caused the resume or not. Now by the time _real_ activity happens, the OS has sent the computer back to sleep. We did introduce this way, as otherwise LMS would have kept the computer running even if it wasn't being used. Now what I'd suggest to try next is this: we keep the system alive no matter what. But if we were to discover a resume event, we wouldn't leave it running for our whole idle time, but only a minute or two. By then LMS would have seen some real activity to keep the system alive if needed. Otherwise we would no longer keep it awake for all our idle time, but only a few minutes. Makes sense? -- Michael Thanks Michael but unfortunately no. Looks like you missed this from me when I posted my recent comments to http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8141 * NB for both of these tests, I removed the code added by Michael to ignore player activity on system resume so as to improve the chances that pmset would be called in time. * The basic problem is with the polling approach - my logs showed that 60 sec polling was unreliable (not surprising for a 30 sec window given by powerd). More success with 30 sec polling (again no surprise perhaps). But 30 sec polling does not seem like a good idea. I ask again here, as I have asked you in private email, is it possible to identify places in the server code where we could call event-based prevent/allow sleep actions rather than allowing on polling? After all, the player wakes up the server for a reason - presumably that reason corresponds to events in the server code. On the server side, the events would be starting and finishing scanning. In response to players, starting and finishing streaming for example. With this approach, we really could take advantage of your suggestion of just keeping the system awake for a minute or two on resume. Perhaps this could just be initiated by the opening of a TCP connection from a player. You are the best judge of whether this is feasible, from your knowledge of the code, and from your knowledge of the situation with the future of LMS. nonnoroger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35581 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)
Triode wrote: Try restarting the machine - the self test will only record the helper app as running if the instance it started is running. Its possible you have another versions running? restarting didn't help. But what i found out is the following. If i run the self-test on the server where all is installed. it failes on step 5 - Helper App Running: PASS - Logged in: PASS - Spotify Metadata OK: PASS - Streaming form Spotify OK: PASS - Unable to stream to player. So i will investigate on the last one, but i think that other ports than 9005 are required, and that's why the test is not working when i do it from my pc through the web-interface. The always stream via helper is set, so the error is (i think) more on a networking level. Can you explain the communication between the plugin and the boxes more in detail? which tcp port is used to start the stream? Thanks Klaus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2751 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79706 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] TrackStat in iPeng
Thanks. Just changed the settings in LMS and iPeng has now picked up the changes. I can now change the number of songs/albums/artists. Thanks again. norderney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=378 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96388 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues
Thanks Michael but unfortunately no. Looks like you missed this from me when I posted my recent comments to http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8141 Thanks for the heads up - yes, I missed that one. You sometimes provide so much information I miss the most important parts... I'm currently working on some more event driven approach. Instead of listening to all possible events, it might be easier to catch changes to the lastActivityTime. That would be a rather simple change. Unfortunately this won't work with UEML (which I keep in mind as I'm working on this), as there's no concept of client activity any more. I'll update the bug report as soon as I have something to test. Thanks! -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues
mherger wrote: I'm currently working on some more event driven approach. Instead of listening to all possible events, it might be easier to catch changes to the lastActivityTime. That would be a rather simple change. -- Michael Great. Would that approach allow you to tell when to start allowing sleep again or would you still be relying on timers? Roger nonnoroger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35581 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
pippin wrote: Replay gain and cross fade are both currently not supported in iPeng. Is RG on the Road Map? If it is, will it come with a release that still works on Iphone 3G and iPod 2G? bernt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1342 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UPnP interface abilities/limitations
JJZolx wrote: Can a user interface controlling a player that is connected to a UPnP server be just as rich as one connected to a Squeezebox Server? Not sure, as not a user, but is Whitebear combined with LMS going in this direction? garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96394 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UPnP interface abilities/limitations
Seems to me that most brands/players/servers in this segment is going for the low hanging fruit and do very simple/limited implementations . If get Erlands answer yes but no in reality :) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96394 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues
Great. Would that approach allow you to tell when to start allowing sleep again or would you still be relying on timers? No. There's no such thing as a clientidle event. Something has to do the bean counting. Which means we still need some timer counting down the delay since the last activity event. One more reason why I don't want to remove the polling code just yet is UEML: as Smart Radio does no longer have a persistent connection to UEML, the existing client activity detection doesn't work. I'll have to figure out some mechanism to monitor http activity in that case. Until I've found a good solution there I'll leave the polling in addition to the event in. -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UPnP interface abilities/limitations
JJZolx wrote: Are there inherent limitations to a UPnP controller and player posed by the API itself? Can a user interface controlling a player that is connected to a UPnP server be just as rich as one connected to a Squeezebox Server? Is it possible to implement much of the same functionality, such as gapless playback, shuffle, repeat, random play, etc.? What about metadata capability? Can a UPnP player have arbitrary metadata fields such as ALBUMARTIST, COMPILATION, COMPOSER, ARTISTSORT and others? Yes, but excessively complex as UPnP AV is designed I bet it's not going to happen. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96394 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezeplay sound output
Can squeezeplay (PC in my case but a general question) be hacked to play back Spotify? AFAIK only a couple of hardware devices are supported. properjob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42088 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96263 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezeplay sound output
properjob wrote: Can squeezeplay (PC in my case but a general question) be hacked to play back Spotify? AFAIK only a couple of hardware devices are supported.IIRC - the Triode Spotify plug-in works OK on squeezeplay. bonze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6150 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96263 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)
Triode wrote: Try restarting the machine - the self test will only record the helper app as running if the instance it started is running. Its possible you have another versions running? I did some further investigation on that, is it possible that your plugin sends to the player the source where it should stream from, like local-ip:port, e.g. in my scenario 192.168.1.99 (sqeezebox server). but my squeezebox connects through a public IP 123.123.123.123 to that server and can't reach it on 192.168.1.99. is that the possible problem? if so, could you please add a option to configure the public ip ;-) Klaus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2751 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79706 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Apologies if this is answered in this thread. I've made a lot of changes recently (7.6 -- 7.7, Linux -- Mac, etc.) and I've noticed that that the title of all the BBC listen live streams is No Title. Is this known and is there an easy solution? Thanks. VirusKiller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
VirusKiller wrote: Apologies if this is answered in this thread. I've made a lot of changes recently (7.6 -- 7.7, Linux -- Mac, etc.) and I've noticed that that the title of all the BBC listen live streams is No Title. Is this known and is there an easy solution? Thanks. something changed on the bbc side recently. there are some threads on this. I have same issue. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
VirusKiller wrote: Apologies if this is answered in this thread. I've made a lot of changes recently (7.6 -- 7.7, Linux -- Mac, etc.) and I've noticed that that the title of all the BBC listen live streams is No Title. Is this known and is there an easy solution? Thanks.Live text is no longer available from the BBC and they are currently trialing a new service, but only for Radio1/1Xtra The announcement is a few pages back in this thread. bonze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6150 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
How annoying. Thanks for the info. VirusKiller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
VirusKiller wrote: Apologies if this is answered in this thread. I've made a lot of changes recently (7.6 -- 7.7, Linux -- Mac, etc.) and I've noticed that that the title of all the BBC listen live streams is No Title. Is this known and is there an easy solution? Thanks. The BBC have withdrawn their live text service. Are you running the latest BBCiPlayer plugin as this should not show No Title as long as you play the stream from the plugin's menu. Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)
Klaus wrote: I did some further investigation on that, is it possible that your plugin sends to the player the source where it should stream from, like local-ip:port, e.g. in my scenario 192.168.1.99 (sqeezebox server). but my squeezebox connects through a public IP 123.123.123.123 to that server and can't reach it on 192.168.1.99. is that the possible problem? if so, could you please add a option to configure the public ip ;-) Sorry - not supported. Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79706 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Triode wrote: The BBC have withdrawn their live text service. Are you running the latest BBCiPlayer plugin as this should not show No Title as long as you play the stream from the plugin's menu.BBC Applet 1.15 shows a blank for example Listen Live Radio2 with option set to 'Live Text' BBC iPlayer 1.2.8 shows 'No Title' for the same selection bonze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6150 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)
Triode wrote: Sorry - not supported. oh that's a pitty. - but thanks for your answers - if I tunnel 192.168.1.99 so that it's reachable for the squeezebox, then it will work, right? is 9005 the only required tcp port? Klaus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2751 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79706 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Converting an old PC to VortexBox
2004 computer should be able to boot from USB devices, You can install Vortexbox on a USB thumb drive (http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Cruzer-SDCZ33-008G-B35-Flash-Drive/dp/B005FYNSUA/ref=sr_1_34?s=pcie=UTF8qid=1347303637sr=1-34). You music can be on USB external drive or NAS. ply3908's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38634 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96347 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
bonze wrote: BBC iPlayer 1.2.8 shows 'No Title' for the same selection Same here: I'm definitely running 1.2.8 and I get title = No Title. VirusKiller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
VirusKiller wrote: Same here: I'm definitely running 1.2.8 and I get title = No Title. OK - that's a bug then. Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Erland's Plug-ins, Large Collections, and Hardware Requirements
goharbourview123 wrote: Perhaps this is also a matter of how TrackStat and Spicefly Sugarcube play together? For clarity there is no interaction between SugarCube and TrackStat. Enabling the TrackStat option within SugarCube just informs SugarCube to look for the TrackStat table data within the database and then SugarCube runs its own logic using that additional data to make its track selection. It doesnt make any calls or interaction with TrackStat. Cheers cparker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2083 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96124 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Converting an old PC to VortexBox
I've done some research on the Dell user forums and it seems my machine is capable of up to a 2 TB SATA drive. It will require cable adaptors but that's okay by me. One TB SATA drives are pretty reasonably priced so I think that's probably what I will use. CharlieG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96347 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Converting an old PC to VortexBox
CharlieG wrote: I've done some research on the Dell user forums and it seems my machine is capable of up to a 2 TB SATA drive. It will require cable adaptors but that's okay by me. One TB SATA drives are pretty reasonably priced so I think that's probably what I will use. Thats excellent then , you find a drive down at the supermarket almost :) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96347 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
