Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Google starts Google Cast for Audio

2015-01-09 Thread poing

erland wrote: 
> 
> I'm still not convinced AirPlay, Bluetooth, Google Cast is the right
> solution for continuous listening or streaming to a whole house, in
> these use cases it just feels wrong to depend on everything being
> streamed through a battery powered WiFi enabled mobile device which have
> to be powered on and connected during the whole listening session.
But the main differentiating feature of Google Cast is that NOTHING is
being streamed through your battery powered, WiFi enabled mobile
device.

Instead, the casting device (i.e., your smartphone or your Chrome
browser) initiates an internet stream. The player, on the other hand, is
being told to receive and play back that internet stream. Thus, Google
Cast is battery friendly for the device acting as a remote control.

However, Google Cast has two disadvantages (IMHO). First, a sufficiently
stable and fast internet connection is always required. Second, the
Google Cast SDK is proprietary and heavily controlled by Google (e.g.,
every app supported Google Cast must be registered and Google reserves
the right to monitor what you do with the app as well as with the
receiving device).



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Google starts Google Cast for Audio

2015-01-09 Thread erland

In my mind, this seams great for casual listeners that mainly listen to
music through their smartphone but sometimes want to stream it to a
speaker to make it possible for everyone else in the same room to hear
the same thing. For this use case it's also great to get an alternative
to AirPlay for people where an iOS devices isn't an option. It's good
that Google realise that everything doesn't necessarily have to be
played through a TV. We will have to see how far they will develop this
since with no screen they have nowhere to display their ads, which is
their main source of revenue.

I wonder if it works if a friend wants to play something on your speaker
and you haven't given him/her access to your WiFi network ? 
Will these devices offer a adhoc WiFi connection so it's possible for
anyone to connect to them directly and play something without giving
people access to your whole network ?

I'm still not convinced AirPlay, Bluetooth, Google Cast is the right
solution for continuous listening or streaming to a whole house, in
these use cases it just feels wrong to depend on everything being
streamed through a battery powered WiFi enabled mobile device which have
to be powered on and connected during the whole listening session.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread

2015-01-09 Thread R1200CL

Got the thouch player. So much easier to set up. Tanks for help. Duet
goes for sale. 

For the last tree weeks I've done some tests. Auralic and Simple Audio.
None of them offer the nice iPad Interface the 3 Squeecebox apps offer.
The Auralic did not have a working internet radio. Both of them had
problem accessing my files on my Windows 2008 server. ( And PC as well)
The Wimp Interface on Auralic was very nice, and extremly quick. 

Sonos has never been an option for me, due to lack of hi-res. So I've
never checked how the idevice Interface is. 

I can't understand why Logitech stoped this fantastic product. Maybe
they was ahead of their time. 
I've even see the Touch is available on Amazon for almost $1000. 

I whish is was so simple to just order 10 000 new units from the Chinise
factory, and start selling them for $499 :)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Google starts Google Cast for Audio

2015-01-09 Thread CommanderROR

Well, I would carefully disagree. 
This Google Audio Cast might actually be a great thing, because it would
make things easier for Software devs, Hardware builders and
consumers...at least if it works the way I think it does. 
The best usecase would be, IMHO, to create a small box with Wifi, a
low-power SoC, good DAC and standard connectors, so, Analogue, Digital
Coax and Optical. This little box would then enanble any active
speakers, amp or compact hifi device to act as a Google Audio Cast
device. 
Now, streaming services like Wimp, Qobuz, Deezer and Google Play Music
could simply offer the standard "Cast" option in their apps. Same for
TuneIn and other platforms for radio streaming. The Smartphone initiates
an action, and the google audio box does the rest, communicating with
the servers on it's own, using the standard protocols. 
For streaming services this could be a major help, because they don't
have to rely on manufacturers implementing their service into a device.
Any Google Audio Cast device will work, all they have to do is offer it
in their apps. 
Hardware Manufacturers also don't have to deal with all the different
services anymore, they simply offer AirPlay and Google Cast, the rest is
handled by the apps and the Cast protocols. 

And for consumers it's also a good deal. No need for a local server (if
you dont' use local media that is) and all features of the respective
streaming service should work on any Cast enabled device. No need to
wait and hope that new features will get implemented by
Sonos/Logitech/Bluesound/Philips/whoever...

So, that's my interpretation. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I misunderstand the
whole thing. 
Time will tell...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread

2015-01-09 Thread pippin

The Touch supports up to 96 KHz sample rate, 192 KHz will still get
resampled.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread

2015-01-09 Thread garym

pippin wrote: 
> The Touch supports up to 96 KHz sample rate, 192 KHz will still get
> resampled.

or you can even install triode's EDO app on the TOUCH, connect the touch
to a 24/192 capable DAC and get up to 24/192 with no resampling.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: ShairTunes Plugin

2015-01-09 Thread Snyder

IanDury wrote: 
> Martin, I've tried but it looks like the shairtunes plugin can only
> stream to one player at a time.

Ian, you are right. Airplay streaming from my iphone to a group of
players does not seem to be possible. When the squeezeboxes are
synchronized to a group, while I am starting an airplay stream to one of
the synchronized players, both players stop immediately and I always get
the error message that the players are waiting to be synchronized.

Has anybody got an idea how to configure or modify the plugin in order
to enable streaming via airplay to a group of players?

Anyway I´m very happy that I got this plugin working on my raspberry PI.
Great work and many thanks!!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] IR Blaster with Touch: Emitter problems

2015-01-09 Thread cncb

Thanks, Felix.  I actually downloaded a .conf file for my AVR and when
that didn't work I tried one for my XBox 360.  After that didn't work, I
thought I would then try to keep it "simple" -  little did I know I was
trying the impossible :).

I looked at my emitter with a digital camera as you suggested and it
does appear to be flashing so it seems that commands are being emitted. 
I will try to create a .conf file for my specific AVR since the .conf I
downloaded may not have the correct commands (I have an Onkyo TX-NR709
and the most recent one available was for the TX-SR607).  The XBox 360
should be universal so I'm a little stumped why that one doesn't work. 
Also, my AVR has a direct IR input port which I tried before with a
direct connection but I will try again after I verify the correct .conf
for my AVR.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer freezes occasionally

2015-01-09 Thread bpa

Perhaps it's part of the audio changeover that happening in Feb - no
more WMA and perhaps  HLS replacing other formats 

http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/playing_radio_progs/changes_audio_formats



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] announce: squeeze2upnp, a bridge between LMS and uPNP devices

2015-01-09 Thread castalla

philippe_44 wrote: 
> BTW,  is your Raspi connected through wifi or wired ? Mine is wireless
> and I have a lot of buffering issues (using raspbian)

Wired/

I have another armv7 device (Ibox) which is wifi - I'll try that
tomorrow.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] announce: squeeze2upnp, a bridge between LMS and uPNP devices

2015-01-09 Thread philippe_44

BTW,  is your Raspi connected through wifi or wired ? Mine is wireless
and I have a lot of buffering issues (using raspbian)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] announce: squeeze2upnp, a bridge between LMS and uPNP devices

2015-01-09 Thread castalla

philippe_44 wrote: 
> Ive not tried in that case, but normally you should use /dev/null as the
> output file

Seems > /dev/null 2>&1 works



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] announce: squeeze2upnp, a bridge between LMS and uPNP devices

2015-01-09 Thread philippe_44

castalla wrote: 
> Okay - but what if I don't want a log file either?

Ive not tried in that case, but normally you should use /dev/null as the
output file



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer freezes occasionally

2015-01-09 Thread castalla

rbl wrote: 
> Do you and others have the same problem then? 
> 
> Seems odd to me that everyone else can make their streams work, radio
> and video, including tiny outfits, then why can't the mighty BBC?

I've noticed drop-outs have become more frequent recently.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread

2015-01-09 Thread Mnyb

R1200CL wrote: 
> Thanks. This makes it very clear to me. I may purchase a Squeezboz
> Touch. Will I then get better native support ?
> 
> Will everything else work like it does with the Duet ? (LMS, Interface
> with ipeng etc.)
> 
> Is it easier to obtain ethernet connection with the Touch ?

Yes every controller like for example iPeng interfaces mostly with the
server and thus controll of any squeezebox is the same ( including third
party and software variants )

Ethernet works on both products , but Touch is easier to handle as it
has it own interface ( touch screen ) you don't need to configure it
trough the controller as you did with your duet . The settings are
aviable on its own screen so you can acess network settings all the time
.




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MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3
sub.
Bedroom/Office: Boom
Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4
Misc use: Radio (with battery)
iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad
(in storage SB3, reciever ,controller )
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] announce: squeeze2upnp, a bridge between LMS and uPNP devices

2015-01-09 Thread castalla

PasTim wrote: 
> On ubuntu I run with something like:
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > -z -x config.xml -f squeeze2upnp.log -d all=info
  > 

> > 
> 
> So the output goes into the log file if you need it.  The -z puts the
> program in the background.

Okay - but what if I don't want a log file either?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer freezes occasionally

2015-01-09 Thread rbl

Do you and others have the same problem then? 

Seems odd to me that everyone else can make their streams work, radio
and video, including tiny outfits, then why can't the mighty BBC?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread

2015-01-09 Thread R1200CL

Owen Smith wrote: 
> Just to add, the Duet Receiver also natively supports 44.1KHz sample
> rate so source material in multiples of that eg. 88.2 and 176.4 are
> downsampled by the server to 44.1 if played on the Duet Receiver or Boom
> or various classic squeezeboxes. 96 and 192 are downsampled to 48Khz,
> this way all the downsamplings are integer multiples.

Thanks. This makes it very clear to me. I may purchase a Squeezboz Tuch.
Will I then get better native support ?

Will everything else work like it does with the Duet ? (LMS, Interface
with ipeng etc.)

Is it easier to obtain ethernet connection with the Tuch ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] announce: squeeze2upnp, a bridge between LMS and uPNP devices

2015-01-09 Thread PasTim

castalla wrote: 
> Just reporting that the armv6-static works okay on Raspi - thanks to
> all!
> 
> Just a point: is there a  switch to stop console output ?
On ubuntu I run with something like:


Code:


  -z -x config.xml -f squeeze2upnp.log -d all=info
  



So the output goes into the log file if you need it.  The -z puts the
program in the background.



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44.1->192kbps. LMS & Squeeze2upnp (Beta - derived from squeezelite) to
Musical Fidelity M1 CLiC and Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers.  Squeezelite
to PC sound.  Minimserver (server) and upplay (control point) to same
amps & to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers.  Meridian USB Explorer DAC from PCs
to speakers/headphones.  Wireless Xubuntu 14.04 laptop controls
LMS/upplay via Firefox.   Have a Touch with EDO, and a spare, but don't
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] announce: squeeze2upnp, a bridge between LMS and uPNP devices

2015-01-09 Thread castalla

Just reporting that the armv6-static works okay on Raspi - thanks to
all!

Just a point: is there a  switch to stop console output ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer freezes occasionally

2015-01-09 Thread castalla

rbl wrote: 
> I have used iPlayer for a long time and it is basically very good.
> However, every so often it freezes. Sometimes it kicks starts itself
> again after 10-30seconds, sometimes it doesn't. This happened on my old
> TalkTalk copper connection, but it still happens with my new BT fibre
> connection. I live in central London, and whenever I do a bandwidth test
> I always get close to 40Mb/s, and it seems very reliable so I suspect
> the problem is elsewhere. All my SB3s are wired, and I use SqueezeLite
> on my 6 month old Windows 7 PC. Any idea what it could be?

Crappy BBC streams ...



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[SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer freezes occasionally

2015-01-09 Thread rbl

I have used iPlayer for a long time and it is basically very good.
However, every so often it freezes. Sometimes it kicks starts itself
again after 10-30seconds, sometimes it doesn't. This happened on my old
TalkTalk copper connection, but it still happens with my new BT fibre
connection. I live in central London, and whenever I do a bandwidth test
I always get close to 40Mb/s, and it seems very reliable so I suspect
the problem is elsewhere. All my SB3s are wired, and I use SqueezeLite
on my 6 month old Windows 7 PC. Any idea what it could be?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] IR Blaster with Touch: Emitter problems

2015-01-09 Thread fcm4711

Hi cncb

I think mono plugs should work with SB Touch but I am not 100% sure. (I
know for sure they do not work with Transporter due to the fact how the
IR out port is wired.)

But you can do an simple test. Just point a digital camera at the IR
emitter while hitting the test button - that should show you at least
whether the IR LED lights up or not.

As for the self test back to SB Touch. The idea to keep it simple first
is great. Unfortunately this test doesn't work with SB Touch as it can
only do one thing at the time, either receive or send IR commands, but
not both. So it is expected that SB Touch doesn't react to its own IR
blasting. You'll need another SB product to run a test with the supplied
slim.conf.

And no, there is nothing in addition to do to switch the headphone jack
from audio to IR - that is handled by the IR Blaster plugin.

I assume you've already found this:
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/IR_Blaster One important piece of
information from here is that SB Touch cannot blast RAW files.

Felix



Programming is the art of cleverly arranging bits and bytes. - (c) Felix
Mueller

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