Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] 7.3: updates for SaverSwitcher, SyncOptions, PlayLog, and others
>Please read the documentation There's a min and mac target version >and target type in the repo format I did read the wiki. I saw the min, max and OS target filters. But it didn't explain how they would be used. i.e. Will all plugin versions be listed and incompatible ones disabled, because currently it doesn't show the min/max supported version information. Soemone on SC7.3 may only want to upgrade to 7.4 if all of their plugins will be supported in the next release. ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] 7.3: updates for SaverSwitcher, SyncOptions, PlayLog, and others
Philip Meyer;370743 Wrote: > >which Alien does as there are multiple versions due to api changes > > > That brings up another issue - how do we handle different versions of a > plugin for different versions of SC? > > At the moment, the Extension Downloader is SC7.3 only, and therefore > all plugins listed in a repository will have been built for 7.3. > > When newer revisions of SC are out, a pluign author may need to create > different versions for each SC version. Would the plugin just appear in > the repository several times with different min/max version ranges? > > If a plugin only works with 7.3, and a user upgrades from 7.3 to 8.0, > what will happen with the installed plugin? Will extension downloader > uninstall it, or indicate that it is incompatible? If there is also a > newer version that does work with 8.0, will be automatically upgrade > the installed plugin? Please read the documentation There's a min and mac target version and target type in the repo format - this allows two versions of Alien to be hosted now (windows and max/linux) and users to always get the right one. It will also allow multiple versions of a plugin to he hosted too. What we don't do at present is automatically change the version installed when the server is updated - need to think about how that should happen... -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56358 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] 7.3: updates for SaverSwitcher, SyncOptions, PlayLog, and others
>ContextMenu wasn't even shown toward the bottom of the ED page, greyed out? No, doesn't appear anywhere. I think there's other plugins that have been manually installed that don't appear on the extension downloader page. I'll have to compare lists to see if I can see a pattern to it. Phil ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] 7.3: updates for SaverSwitcher, SyncOptions, PlayLog, and others
>which Alien does as there are multiple versions due to api changes > That brings up another issue - how do we handle different versions of a plugin for different versions of SC? At the moment, the Extension Downloader is SC7.3 only, and therefore all plugins listed in a repository will have been built for 7.3. When newer revisions of SC are out, a pluign author may need to create different versions for each SC version. Would the plugin just appear in the repository several times with different min/max version ranges? If a plugin only works with 7.3, and a user upgrades from 7.3 to 8.0, what will happen with the installed plugin? Will extension downloader uninstall it, or indicate that it is incompatible? If there is also a newer version that does work with 8.0, will be automatically upgrade the installed plugin? ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] 7.3: updates for SaverSwitcher, SyncOptions, PlayLog, and others
Triode;370252 Wrote: > So Phil - is the only problem with Extension Downloader the lack of > ability to set the location? Now that 7.3 is released I hope to add a > command line option to set the plugin location for extension downloader > to install to, would this fix it? > > Likely to be --extensionsdir So, with this cmd line option, would SC see all plugins...downloaded or manually installed, in extensiondir? (Yes please!) -- gharris999 gharris999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56358 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] 7.3: updates for SaverSwitcher, SyncOptions, PlayLog, and others
Philip Meyer;370230 Wrote: > > I added your repo to Extension Downloader, and it doesn't seem to list > all of your plugins listed from your web page > (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim). > > eg. I know I have manually installed ContextMenu. i.e. ContextMenu > does not show up as either an available plugin or a manually installed > plugin. > Sounds like an Extension Downloader problem -- the same script creates the HTML list of plugins on my home page and my "repodata.xml" list of available plugins. Even if you'd used my test repo URL, my test set contains a superset of what's listed on my home page. ContextMenu wasn't even shown toward the bottom of the ED page, greyed out? -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim AllQuiet BlankSaver ContextMenu FuzzyTime KitchenTimer PlayLog PowerCenter/BottleRocket SaverSwitcher SettingsManager SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56358 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] 7.3: updates for SaverSwitcher, SyncOptions, PlayLog, and others
Philip Meyer;370372 Wrote: > >is the only problem with Extension Downloader the lack of > >ability to set the location? > > > It's not the only problem. I have a lot of plugins installed. I keep > on the bleeding edge of development. One of the problems I see is that > a lot of plugins have a maxVersion check, and thus would not available > for installation, even though they work with the latest SC trunk code. > > I tweaked the code to just report a warning in the log if maxVersion > was exceeded. Other users tweak the install.xml to get them to run. > But with Extension Downloader, I guess you don't get an option - you > can't install them (are they even listed?). > > I'd prefer it if maxVersion were only set by plugin developers if they > know for certain what the max version is. Even then, the plugin may > work with limited capability past the max version (some functionality > may not work, but may not cause SC problems). I prefer to disable > plugins (or move plugins out of the plugin folder) only if they cause > problems. > I see that as a plugin author issue, but yes people should only really set maxVesion if they know it won't work (which Alien does as there are multiple versions due to api changes) I'll think about what will be possible with the command line option - my original thought would not allow you to set it to the location of the manually installed plugins but I will think about it... -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56358 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] 7.3: updates for SaverSwitcher, SyncOptions, PlayLog, and others
>is the only problem with Extension Downloader the lack of >ability to set the location? > It's not the only problem. I have a lot of plugins installed. I keep on the bleeding edge of development. One of the problems I see is that a lot of plugins have a maxVersion check, and thus would not available for installation, even though they work with the latest SC trunk code. I tweaked the code to just report a warning in the log if maxVersion was exceeded. Other users tweak the install.xml to get them to run. But with Extension Downloader, I guess you don't get an option - you can't install them (are they even listed?). I'd prefer it if maxVersion were only set by plugin developers if they know for certain what the max version is. Even then, the plugin may work with limited capability past the max version (some functionality may not work, but may not cause SC problems). I prefer to disable plugins (or move plugins out of the plugin folder) only if they cause problems. >Now that 7.3 is released I hope to add a >command line option to set the plugin location for extension downloader >to install to, would this fix it? > >Likely to be --extensionsdir That would be great. A prefs file setting would be good too, with --extensionsdir overriding the prefs setting. If I set that to the Server/Plugins folder, would the extension downloader be in harmony with manually installed plugins - i.e. allow them to be uninstalled/updated as if they had been installed via the extension downloader? Phil ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] 7.3: updates for SaverSwitcher, SyncOptions, PlayLog, and others
So Phil - is the only problem with Extension Downloader the lack of ability to set the location? Now that 7.3 is released I hope to add a command line option to set the plugin location for extension downloader to install to, would this fix it? Likely to be --extensionsdir -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56358 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] 7.3: updates for SaverSwitcher, SyncOptions, PlayLog, and others
>eg. I know I have manually installed ContextMenu. i.e. ContextMenu does not >show up as either an available plugin or a manually installed plugin. Oh, I forgot to mention that ContextMenu settings doesn't show up under Advanced Settings either, or Player Settings. Instead, I have to navigate via Plugins > Context Menu > Settings. Is that expected? ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] 7.3: updates for SaverSwitcher, SyncOptions, PlayLog, and others
>The easiest way to get up-to-date when you're running SqueezeCenter 7.3 >is to delete my plugins from your normal Plugins directory and use the >web > Settings > Extension Downloader with my extension respository >URL, http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/slim7/repodata.xml -- Extension >Downloader not only simplifies installation, but also learning about & >applying updates. > I prefer manual install. I added your repo to Extension Downloader, and it doesn't seem to list all of your plugins listed from your web page (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim). eg. I know I have manually installed ContextMenu. i.e. ContextMenu does not show up as either an available plugin or a manually installed plugin. I would love it if Extension Downloader could indicate if a newer version of a manually installed plugin were available. I could then follow the link and update manually. But I don't think it does that at the moment. Phil ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] 7.3: updates for SaverSwitcher, SyncOptions, PlayLog, and others
If you are now, or plan to, run SqueezeCenter 7.3, please be sure to upgrade to a current version for my plugins, especially SaverSwitcher, SyncOptions, and PlayLog. All my current plugins are coded to work fine in SqueezeCenter 7.0 through 7.3, but some earlier releases only worked up to 7.2.x -- even though their installation information files suggested they'd work with any version of SqueezeCenter 7 or newer. The easiest way to get up-to-date when you're running SqueezeCenter 7.3 is to delete my plugins from your normal Plugins directory and use the web > Settings > Extension Downloader with my extension respository URL, http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/slim7/repodata.xml -- Extension Downloader not only simplifies installation, but also learning about & applying updates. Thanks, Peter -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim AllQuiet BlankSaver ContextMenu FuzzyTime KitchenTimer PlayLog PowerCenter/BottleRocket SaverSwitcher SettingsManager SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56358 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
