[SlimDevices: Plugins] Dynamic metadata on BBC Radio 1 & 1Xtra but no other BBC stations
Hi all. I have noticed that on the iPlayer app playing the new HLS streams that Radio 1 and Radio 1Xtra both have dynamic metadata with information about the track playing, the show, and Newsbeat headlines. None of the other stations do this. Is there any reason why these two are different, and if it works for them, could it be made to work with the other BBC nationals? It was the same situation with the old Shoutcast AAC streams. Thanks and regards, Nick Nick_G's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38427 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103240 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Dynamic metadata on BBC Radio 1 & 1Xtra but no other BBC stations
Nick_G wrote: > None of the other stations do this. Is there any reason why these two > are different It looks like when the BBC killed off their Radiovis project and they then decided to do another experiment. > , and if it works for them, could it be made to work with the other BBC > nationals? No. The bbc is weird that way, > It was the same situation with the old Shoutcast AAC streams. Not really just the metadata was never in stream like normal stations. The BBC have started and stopped many many metadata projects over the years - they seem to love to spend money on experiments and then shut them down. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103240 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Dynamic metadata on BBC Radio 1 & 1Xtra but no other BBC stations
bpa wrote: > It looks like when the BBC killed off their Radiovis project and they > then decided to do another experiment. > > No. The bbc is weird that way, > > > Not really just the metadata was never in stream like normal stations. > The BBC have started and stopped many many metadata projects over the > years - they seem to love to spend money on experiments and then shut > them down. Although the logo for other streams, for example 6music, are picked up from RadioVis. Just not track details. Not sure if that was always the case. LMS Version: 7.9 TranquilPC T2-WHS-A3 - WHS 2011 2x Touch, 3x SB3 bonze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6150 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103240 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Dynamic metadata on BBC Radio 1 & 1Xtra but no other BBC stations
bonze wrote: > Although the logo for other streams, for example 6music, are picked up > from RadioVis. > Just not track details. > > Not sure if that was always the case. Not sure where icons comes from now. Icons used to be stored in Amazon AWS and the icon used to be specified as an URL in plugin iPlayer://. When BBC broke the method for supply the program image for Listen Again a few months ago - Triode decided not to do a hack but wait for BBC to do a proper fix. Not sure if Listen Again used same mechanism as Live. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103240 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Dynamic metadata on BBC Radio 1 & 1Xtra but no other BBC stations
Thanks guys. The BBC does indeed work in mysterious ways. It's a pity we can't have the metadata for all the stations. I mean, how hard can it be for the BBC to add it? Regards, Nick Nick_G's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38427 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103240 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Dynamic metadata on BBC Radio 1 & 1Xtra but no other BBC stations
bpa wrote: > Not sure where icons comes from now. Icons used to be stored in Amazon > AWS and the icon used to be specified as an URL in plugin iPlayer://. Running BBCiPlayer in debug, it is definitely coming from RadioVis. But there does seem to be a lack of other info and the local stations aren't even returning an image. bpa wrote: > When BBC broke the method for supply the program image for Listen Again > a few months ago - Triode decided not to do a hack but wait for BBC to > do a proper fix. Not sure if Listen Again used same mechanism as Live.Not > sure how that is being handled. LMS Version: 7.9 TranquilPC T2-WHS-A3 - WHS 2011 2x Touch, 3x SB3 bonze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6150 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103240 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Dynamic metadata on BBC Radio 1 & 1Xtra but no other BBC stations
Nick_G wrote: > Thanks guys. The BBC does indeed work in mysterious ways. It's a pity we > can't have the metadata for all the stations. I mean, how hard can it be > for the BBC to add it? The BBC doesn't want to you to use a player - they want you to use a BBC supplied iPlayer browser or an app and then it doesn't matter that metadata is not supplied in a standard way. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103240 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Dynamic metadata on BBC Radio 1 & 1Xtra but no other BBC stations
bpa wrote: > The BBC doesn't really want to you to use an SB player or internet Radio > - they want you to use a BBC supplied iPlayer browser or an app and then > it doesn't matter that metadata is not supplied in a standard way. Looks very much that way - I'm sick to death of the R5 tag-line 'Digital, Smartphones and Tablets!' Good grief! Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers Logitech Radio Logitech UE Smart Radio Raspberry Pi + Squeezeplug LMS + Squeezelite - Logitech Mini Boombox speaker (mothballed) Cubieboard + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker O2 Joggler + SqpOS + Aune X2 T-amp + Mordaunt Short ms-3.40 speakers IBOX + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker Squeeze2upnp - Sonos Play1 & Vistron internet radio (Reciva) castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103240 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Dynamic metadata on BBC Radio 1 & 1Xtra but no other BBC stations
bpa wrote: > The BBC doesn't really want to you to use an SB player or internet Radio > - they want you to use a BBC supplied iPlayer browser or an app and then > it doesn't matter that metadata is not supplied in a standard way. So what's the point in supplying high-quality AAC streams to those devices, which can't take advantage of the superior sound, and leave most hi-fi streamers (which are designed for that very purpose) with poor quality unreliable MP3 streams (Shoutcast Radio 3 AAC reprieve excepted)? It doesn't make any sense. I wonder if it's a cunning plan to try to force more people over to DAB. Although I think this fiasco will damage public confidence in internet and digital radio in general. FM looks even more attractive now. Regards, Nick Nick_G's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38427 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103240 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Dynamic metadata on BBC Radio 1 & 1Xtra but no other BBC stations
Nick_G wrote: > So what's the point in supplying high-quality AAC streams to those > devices, which can't take advantage of the superior sound, and leave > most hi-fi streamers (which are designed for that very purpose) with > poor quality unreliable MP3 streams (Shoutcast Radio 3 AAC reprieve > excepted)? It doesn't make any sense. > > I wonder if it's a cunning plan to try to force more people over to DAB. > Although I think this fiasco will damage public confidence in internet > and digital radio in general. FM looks even more attractive now. > We can only hope that BBC implement as a proper service rather than keep experimenting as part of the development labs. I'm not sure of the status of RadioVis / RadioDNS (last message on BBC R&D is about 2011) but the group had message up to Jul 2014. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/radiovis-developers The BBC may be waiting for a RadioDNS standard which will work with all "vendors" but it looks like the AudioFactory changes may have sidelined all that by making it difficult for players vendors to actually play BBC streams. Meanwhile BBC R&D are playing around with RadioTag. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103240 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Dynamic metadata on BBC Radio 1 & 1Xtra but no other BBC stations
And today they seem to have disappeared altogether LMS Version: 7.9 TranquilPC T2-WHS-A3 - WHS 2011 2x Touch, 3x SB3 bonze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6150 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103240 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Dynamic metadata on BBC Radio 1 & 1Xtra but no other BBC stations
bonze wrote: > And today they seem to have disappeared altogetherLooks like it was something > I broke when fiddling about with the RadioVis plugin Working again now, and although a bit 'hacky' it can be changed to work with other UK stations. (ClassicFM, XFM etc.) LMS Version: 7.9 TranquilPC T2-WHS-A3 - WHS 2011 2x Touch, 3x SB3 bonze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6150 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103240 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
