[SlimDevices: Plugins] Help me understand LMS and custom scan basics

2012-03-05 Thread camelx

Sorry, it seems LMS is constantly scanning and still doesn't always find
my tag changes. (I'm sure this is ignorance on my part :) )

What I have:

- large Rock and Classical collection - 45k albums in FLAC
- I have all the Erland plugins and use custom browse and scan to add
my custom flac fields of Soloists, label, and Orchestra (band). I also
use the built in CB menus of Composer and Conductor.
- I'm using the latest 7.7 build of LMS

What I'm not understanding:

- first thing of note, I changed a large group of tags with MP3tag from
Bach, J.S. to Bach, Johann Sebastian. First did a look for new and
changes scan and LMS still showed Bach, J.S. Then I did Clear and
rescan everything and still didn't change (unless I checked to early
after many hours.
- I noticed it seem to change when I browse the music fold via Folder
browse within LMS, which is a nice trick for fast update.

Please help suggesting best practices:

- what is best to do when I change previously tagged flac information,
like my Bach example above? quick scan or clear and rescan?
- what is best to do when I add NEW albums? look for changes or clear
and rescan?
- and one for erland or custom crowd. If I only change standard
fields such as title or album name, do I need to do a custom scan prior
to LMS scan?
- Also for Erland - in the case above where I change the Bach, J.S. to
Bach, Johann Sebastian in Artist and Composer, then do I need to do
custom scan first and then do LMS Scan? if so which LMS scans? Look for
changes or clear and rescan everything?

Thanks in advance!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Help me understand LMS and custom scan basics

2012-03-05 Thread erland

camelx;694150 Wrote: 
 
 - what is best to do when I change previously tagged flac information,
 like my Bach example above? quick scan or clear and rescan?
 - what is best to do when I add NEW albums? look for changes or clear
 and rescan?
 
I'll let someone else answer this, I personally usually do a full
rescan because I have a fairly small library and I generally don't
trust the SBS/LMS scanner to do the right thing if only rescanning
new/changed files.

camelx;694150 Wrote: 
 
 - and one for erland or custom crowd. If I only change standard
 fields such as title or album name, do I need to do a custom scan prior
 to LMS scan?
 
The normal procedure is that you perform a normal LMS rescan and this
will trigger a Custom Scan scanning after the standard scanner is
finished. 

The Custom Tag module doesn't have to be executed unless you have
changed any tags that are configured in the Custom Tag scanning module
settings. The Mixed Tag scanning module in Custom Scan must be executed
only if you have either changed a custom tag handled by Custom Tag
module or you have changed one of the tags which are listed in the
Mixed Tag scanning module settings page.

If you have the automatic option enabled, both Custom Tag and Mixed Tag
modules will be executed because currently they are not smart enough to
detect if it's needed or not.

camelx;694150 Wrote: 
 
 - Also for Erland - in the case above where I change the Bach, J.S. to
 Bach, Johann Sebastian in Artist and Composer, then do I need to do
 custom scan first and then do LMS Scan? if so which LMS scans? Look for
 changes or clear and rescan everything?
 
It doesn't matter which LMS rescan you use.
You should run Custom Scan after the LMS rescan, not before.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Help me understand LMS and custom scan basics

2012-03-05 Thread garym

if i only edit tags, a check for new does NOT pick this up. requires a
clear and rescan.  Probably because my tagger (MP3TAG) doesn't change
the modified date on my files from just a tag edit.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Help me understand LMS and custom scan basics

2012-03-05 Thread camelx

As I mentioned, I too use Mp3Tagger and that may be the root of my
main problem.Thanks for that!! And from Erland's replies, then is
sounds like this may be the proper procedure for using Mp3Tag, LMS, and
Custom Scan:

- always use clear and rescan all 
- Then do the Scan tags and/or mixed tags (it should start
automatically if you configured it properly after LMS scan completes)

The browse folders trick is still a good one to know for quickly
updating LMS of tag changes.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Help me understand LMS and custom scan basics

2012-03-05 Thread garym

camelx;694199 Wrote: 
 As I mentioned, I too use Mp3Tagger and that may be the root of my
 main problem.Thanks for that!! And from Erland's replies, then is
 sounds like this may be the proper procedure for using Mp3Tag, LMS, and
 Custom Scan:
 
 - always use clear and rescan all 
 - Then do the Scan tags and/or mixed tags (it should start
 automatically if you configured it properly after LMS scan completes)
 
 The browse folders trick is still a good one to know for quickly
 updating LMS of tag changes.

don't have details, but I've read that there are small programs out
there that can change the modified date on a by a few seconds. I
suppose it would be easy enough to add this to your  work flow so that
check for new and changed would pick up tag changes.  You'd only want
a few seconds/minutes, so that your new music list doesn't get changed
because of a minor tag edit.


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Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio)
*Location 2:* VB Appliance 3TB (2.0)  LMS 7.7.1  Touch  Benchmark
DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio)
*Office:* Win7(64)  LMS 7.7.1  SqueezePlay
Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver
Controllers: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD  SqueezePad), CONTROLLER,
or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop
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