[SlimDevices: Plugins] Help me understand LMS and custom scan basics
Sorry, it seems LMS is constantly scanning and still doesn't always find my tag changes. (I'm sure this is ignorance on my part :) ) What I have: - large Rock and Classical collection - 45k albums in FLAC - I have all the Erland plugins and use custom browse and scan to add my custom flac fields of Soloists, label, and Orchestra (band). I also use the built in CB menus of Composer and Conductor. - I'm using the latest 7.7 build of LMS What I'm not understanding: - first thing of note, I changed a large group of tags with MP3tag from Bach, J.S. to Bach, Johann Sebastian. First did a look for new and changes scan and LMS still showed Bach, J.S. Then I did Clear and rescan everything and still didn't change (unless I checked to early after many hours. - I noticed it seem to change when I browse the music fold via Folder browse within LMS, which is a nice trick for fast update. Please help suggesting best practices: - what is best to do when I change previously tagged flac information, like my Bach example above? quick scan or clear and rescan? - what is best to do when I add NEW albums? look for changes or clear and rescan? - and one for erland or custom crowd. If I only change standard fields such as title or album name, do I need to do a custom scan prior to LMS scan? - Also for Erland - in the case above where I change the Bach, J.S. to Bach, Johann Sebastian in Artist and Composer, then do I need to do custom scan first and then do LMS Scan? if so which LMS scans? Look for changes or clear and rescan everything? Thanks in advance! -- camelx camelx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1063 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93978 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Help me understand LMS and custom scan basics
camelx;694150 Wrote: - what is best to do when I change previously tagged flac information, like my Bach example above? quick scan or clear and rescan? - what is best to do when I add NEW albums? look for changes or clear and rescan? I'll let someone else answer this, I personally usually do a full rescan because I have a fairly small library and I generally don't trust the SBS/LMS scanner to do the right thing if only rescanning new/changed files. camelx;694150 Wrote: - and one for erland or custom crowd. If I only change standard fields such as title or album name, do I need to do a custom scan prior to LMS scan? The normal procedure is that you perform a normal LMS rescan and this will trigger a Custom Scan scanning after the standard scanner is finished. The Custom Tag module doesn't have to be executed unless you have changed any tags that are configured in the Custom Tag scanning module settings. The Mixed Tag scanning module in Custom Scan must be executed only if you have either changed a custom tag handled by Custom Tag module or you have changed one of the tags which are listed in the Mixed Tag scanning module settings page. If you have the automatic option enabled, both Custom Tag and Mixed Tag modules will be executed because currently they are not smart enough to detect if it's needed or not. camelx;694150 Wrote: - Also for Erland - in the case above where I change the Bach, J.S. to Bach, Johann Sebastian in Artist and Composer, then do I need to do custom scan first and then do LMS Scan? if so which LMS scans? Look for changes or clear and rescan everything? It doesn't matter which LMS rescan you use. You should run Custom Scan after the LMS rescan, not before. -- erland Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info)) (Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)' (http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland). If you like to encourage future presence on this forum and/or third party plugin/applet development, 'consider purchasing some plugins' (http://license.isaksson.info)) Interested in music discovery ? See 'Social Music Discovery (SMD)' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=656713) project. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93978 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Help me understand LMS and custom scan basics
if i only edit tags, a check for new does NOT pick this up. requires a clear and rescan. Probably because my tagger (MP3TAG) doesn't change the modified date on my files from just a tag edit. -- garym *Location 1:* VB Appliance 6TB (1.10) LMS 7.7.1 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VB Appliance 3TB (2.0) LMS 7.7.1 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) LMS 7.7.1 SqueezePlay Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controllers: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93978 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Help me understand LMS and custom scan basics
As I mentioned, I too use Mp3Tagger and that may be the root of my main problem.Thanks for that!! And from Erland's replies, then is sounds like this may be the proper procedure for using Mp3Tag, LMS, and Custom Scan: - always use clear and rescan all - Then do the Scan tags and/or mixed tags (it should start automatically if you configured it properly after LMS scan completes) The browse folders trick is still a good one to know for quickly updating LMS of tag changes. -- camelx camelx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1063 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93978 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Help me understand LMS and custom scan basics
camelx;694199 Wrote: As I mentioned, I too use Mp3Tagger and that may be the root of my main problem.Thanks for that!! And from Erland's replies, then is sounds like this may be the proper procedure for using Mp3Tag, LMS, and Custom Scan: - always use clear and rescan all - Then do the Scan tags and/or mixed tags (it should start automatically if you configured it properly after LMS scan completes) The browse folders trick is still a good one to know for quickly updating LMS of tag changes. don't have details, but I've read that there are small programs out there that can change the modified date on a by a few seconds. I suppose it would be easy enough to add this to your work flow so that check for new and changed would pick up tag changes. You'd only want a few seconds/minutes, so that your new music list doesn't get changed because of a minor tag edit. -- garym *Location 1:* VB Appliance 6TB (1.10) LMS 7.7.1 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VB Appliance 3TB (2.0) LMS 7.7.1 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) LMS 7.7.1 SqueezePlay Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controllers: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93978 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins