Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Playlist Manager Plugin version 3.0 for SC7.0
It works properly when Playing Now is a static playlist, but when it is a Dynamic Playlist, it adds the entire Playing Now list into the selected playlist. -- MeSue Sue http://www.last.fm/user/MeSue MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39371 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Playlist Manager Plugin version 3.0 for SC7.0
Well, it's working fine now with the built-in dynamic playlists as well as my customized ones. I don't know what was going on before. I think this will be useful... thanks for making it. -- MeSue Sue http://www.last.fm/user/MeSue MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39371 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Playlist Manager Plugin version 3.0 for SC7.0
One suggestion I have for the plugin is to have the option to use relative pathnames in the playlist file instead of absolute. From memory (I'm not at home to see the code at the moment), I'm not doing anything special - it should be the same as adding songs to a playlist using SqueezeCenter. i.e. I think SC always stores absolute paths. Phil ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Playlist Manager Plugin version 3.0 for SC7.0
Hi Phil, I installed this plug-in today, but I guess it is not compatible with Dynamic Playlists? I was playing a Dynamic Playlist and I did add.hold. It did invoke the Playlist Manager, and I named a new playlist to add the song to, but it added the entire now playing list to the new playlist. I managed to repeat this three times. -- MeSue Sue http://www.last.fm/user/MeSue MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39371 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Playlist Manager Plugin version 3.0 for SC7.0
Playlist Manager is working great again, thanks. One suggestion I have for the plugin is to have the option to use relative pathnames in the playlist file instead of absolute. This way I could use the same playlist file on my MP3 player. -- cjbrooker cjbrooker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7252 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39371 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Playlist Manager Plugin version 3.0 for SC7.0
I love the playlist manager plugin and use it all of the time. Today I upgraded to version 7.1 of Squeezcenter and the plugin is no longer compatible (I have version 3.0.beta02). Are there any plans to release a 7.1 version compatible version? It would be much appreciated. :-) -- cjbrooker cjbrooker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7252 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39371 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Playlist Manager Plugin version 3.0 for SC7.0
I love the playlist manager plugin and use it all of the time. Glad you find it useful. Today I upgraded to version 7.1 of Squeezcenter and the plugin is no longer compatible (I have version 3.0.beta02). It is compatible; it's just that when I released the beta version, I configured the install.xml file to indicate that it was compatible with the latest version of SqueezeCenter that was available at that time. You can open up the install.xml file in a file editor and change the maxVersion to *, and then SC will allow it to run. Are there any plans to release a 7.1 version compatible version? I've just released version 3.1 on my website. Direct link: http://www.hergest.demon.co.uk/Music/slim/PlaylistMan%203.1.zip If anyone is interested, I've also done a similar change for my SongFileViewer plugin: http://www.hergest.demon.co.uk/Music/slim/SongFileViewer%201.1.zip Phil ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Playlist Manager Plugin version 3.0 for SC7.0
That's why I never wanted the settings links on the plugin page. It's imho really there where we have a link too much. Settings should be kept in Advanced/Player and nowhere else, because it's where they belong. But I seem to be alone with my opinion :-). No, I agree with that now I understand that a plugin settings link could be either server or player related, especially seeing a plugin could have both player and server settings. The non-plugin pages (eg. logging, security, network) are advanced settings, but the plugins server settings pages are not necessarily Advanced. Why would a user think of looking in Advanced settings page for MIS, and not Plugins, Basic, Players or Interface tab? It _is_ in the player settings, because that's where it belongs. (If it's not I'll have to fix it.) Don't worry - it is in player settings. That was my point - someone wanting to set up screen saver settings would think of looking either in Player settings, plugin settings, or maybe interface, but not Advanced. Same is true for most plugins - Advanced may look a bit scary! Phil ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Playlist Manager Plugin version 3.0 for SC7.0
I think there's a problem with the new default skin. My plugin does show a Settings link on the Plugins settings tab (but not on the Advanced tab). It does so if you have an optionsURL defined in install.xml. I checked by install.xml file. I have: optionsURL/optionsURL So I have a tag, but it's empty. The effect of this is that it appears within the Plugins tab as a link to the plugin's Settings (but the link obviously fails), but within Advanced settings the plugin is not listed as having any settings page. So there is an inconsistency between the two places that you can use to navigate to plugin settings. BTW: it should be identical in Default and in any other skin, as they are using the same template. Classic, Fishbone and Handheld skins display settings links for all plugins (even if there are no settings), whereas the Default skin only displays a settings link if there are server settings. Default skin lumps all of the plugins with settings under the Advanced tab, so it looks fairly tidy. Other skins don't have an Advanced settings page - the items appear as other settings tabs directly within server settings page (or drop-down list in the case of fishbone). Handheld looks particularly naff, because it displays all server settings tabs and plugin settings tabs across the top of the settings page, which can be a long list wrapping round over several lines (10 lines on my PDA). I know you like the plugins settings to be duplicated under Advanced tab in the Default skin, but perhaps other skins should not display direct links to plugin settings (navigate to them via plugins settings tab only). Now plugins term is back in fashion (rather than extras) that does seem to make sense. Phil ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Playlist Manager Plugin version 3.0 for SC7.0
I checked by install.xml file. I have: optionsURL/optionsURL Which means there's a defined value, thought it's empty. Doesn't make sense to convert this into a link, I have to agree. If you remove the line the link will be gone without a change on the server. Where does the created link point at? The code does check whether there's an empty value or not. Thus it should not display a link when an empty value is defined. Did you file a bug report? obviously fails), but within Advanced settings the plugin is not listed as having any settings page. So there is an inconsistency between the two places that you can use to navigate to plugin settings. A plugin can register more than one settings page. It could eg. have a per player settings page and a server wide settings page. The value represented in install.xml (on the plugins page) should point to the page which is considered the main settings page - it's up to the plugin author to take this decision. BTW: it should be identical in Default and in any other skin, as they are using the same template. Classic, Fishbone and Handheld skins display settings links for all plugins (even if there are no settings), whereas the Default skin only displays a settings link if there are server settings. Ok, my fault. While they use the same template for the page, they use different block templates for the settings link. Will have to fix this. I know you like the plugins settings to be duplicated under Advanced tab in the Default skin, but perhaps other skins should not display direct links to plugin settings (navigate to them via plugins settings tab only). It's not that I like them to be there or not. I even removed the duplicate links at one point, and was asked to put them back again. We either would have to remove them from the plugins page or continue with duplicates for the same reason I mentioned above: we also have per player settings. And the user often doesn't care at all whether a feature is added by a plugin or not. He wants a (almost) single point of configuration. That's the advanced or player settings page. Otherwise he would have to go look at the plugins - ooops, not there, let's try the advanced settings... Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Playlist Manager Plugin version 3.0 for SC7.0
The code does check whether there's an empty value or not. Thus it should not display a link when an empty value is defined. Did you file a bug report? No. As it was my mistake when I created the plugin, I've just removed the line from the file (until the point in time where I actually get round to figuring out how to add a settings page to my plugin!). We either would have to remove them from the plugins page or continue with duplicates for the same reason I mentioned above: we also have per player settings. I didn't understand the issue with per-player settings, as I thought they only appeared on the player settings page, and never affected what is displayed in the plugins settings tabs - I thought that would only link to server settings for the plugin if there were any. But I see your point, as I now understand there can be player settings that the plugin settings link can link to. I think it's that that causes the problems, and why they have to be duplicated in Advanced (in case there is a plugin where the plugin settings links to player prefs, but there could also be server prefs too - don't think there are any of those, but suppose it could happen). Things do tend to start going a bit wrong when you go to server settings plugins settings that link to player settings. In other skins you select a player, then hit player settings, and select the plugin player settings page. However, using a player settings link from plugins settings page in Default skin means you are navigating to a player settings page, and then selecting a player. Eg. in Fishbone skin, go to SqueezeCenter Settings Plugins Music Information Screen, and it displays the MIS player settings. But just above the MIS player settings, it still shows this as SqueezeCenter Settings, as that is where you have come from. The player is selected on the other side of the screen, so it is a bit confusing. And the user often doesn't care at all whether a feature is added by a plugin or not. He wants a (almost) single point of configuration. That's the advanced or player settings page. Otherwise he would have to go look at the plugins - ooops, not there, let's try the advanced settings... I think the word Advanced doesn't help - it's really server settings (or other settings that are not player settings and not standard SqueezeCenter settings), but you don't want to use the word Server. The non-plugin pages (eg. logging, security, network) are advanced settings, but the plugins server settings pages are not necessarily Advanced. Why would a user think of looking in Advanced settings page for MIS, and not Plugins, Basic, Players or Interface tab? They would know that it was a plugin, as they would have downloaded and installed it as a plugin, so that tab would be fairly high on the list, but probably not Advanced? Especially people coming from 6.5, where there never used to be an advanced tab. But again, I do see the reasoning, as some plugins are built-in and enabled by default, and users need not know the functionality is supplied as built-in plugins. Phil ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Playlist Manager Plugin version 3.0 for SC7.0
Things do tend to start going a bit wrong when you go to server settings plugins settings that link to player settings. In other skins you select a player, then hit player settings, and select the plugin player settings page. However, using a player settings link from plugins settings page in Default skin means you are navigating to a player settings page, and then selecting a player. That's why I never wanted the settings links on the plugin page. It's imho really there where we have a link too much. Settings should be kept in Advanced/Player and nowhere else, because it's where they belong. But I seem to be alone with my opinion :-). The non-plugin pages (eg. logging, security, network) are advanced settings, but the plugins server settings pages are not necessarily Advanced. Why would a user think of looking in Advanced settings page for MIS, and not Plugins, Basic, Players or Interface tab? It _is_ in the player settings, because that's where it belongs. (If it's not I'll have to fix it.) Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Playlist Manager Plugin version 3.0 for SC7.0
I think there's a problem with the new default skin. My plugin does show a Settings link on the Plugins settings tab (but not on the Advanced tab). It does so if you have an optionsURL defined in install.xml. BTW: it should be identical in Default and in any other skin, as they are using the same template. -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Playlist Manager Plugin version 3.0 for SC7.0
My bad... I should have read the Known Problems section on the Plugin page. I think there's a problem with the new default skin. My plugin does show a Settings link on the Plugins settings tab (but not on the Advanced tab). It is not visible in the Fishbone skin. Phil ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Playlist Manager Plugin version 3.0 for SC7.0
I just installed PM 3.0 on today's SC7 build and I'm unable to get to the settings page for this plugin. I get a HTTP 404 Page not found error from the Pluins tab settings and the plugin option is not listed under the Advanced tab pulldown. Any suggestions? -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39371 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Playlist Manager Plugin version 3.0 for SC7.0
I just installed PM 3.0 on today's SC7 build and I'm unable to get to the settings page for this plugin. That's because there isn't a settings page! I haven't written any configurable settings! I get a HTTP 404 Page not found error from the Pluins tab settings and the plugin option is not listed under the Advanced tab pulldown. Any suggestions? I'll have to check that - there shouldn't be an option for Playlist Manager in the Advanced settings pages. Phil ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Playlist Manager Plugin version 3.0 for SC7.0
Phil Meyer;260571 Wrote: I just installed PM 3.0 on today's SC7 build and I'm unable to get to the settings page for this plugin. That's because there isn't a settings page! I haven't written any configurable settings! I get a HTTP 404 Page not found error from the Pluins tab settings and the plugin option is not listed under the Advanced tab pulldown. Any suggestions? I'll have to check that - there shouldn't be an option for Playlist Manager in the Advanced settings pages. Phil My bad... I should have read the Known Problems section on the Plugin page. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39371 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Playlist Manager Plugin version 3.0 for SC7.0
Phil, Just wanted to thank you for this plug in. For me, it makes managing and creating playlists a breeze. I have a Demo playlist which contains select tracks from various audiophile quality albums I own. The big benefit to me is the ability to listen to a single track before I determine if I want to add it to a playlist. Nice! Thanks again, Mark -- yooper yooper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8835 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39371 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Playlist Manager Plugin version 3.0 for SC7.0
I have uploaded a new version of my plugin that works with SqueezeCenter 7.0. This version will probably not work with SlimServer 6.5. http://www.hergest.demon.co.uk/Music/slim/PlaylistManPlugin.htm The plugin provides a quick way to add songs from the current playlist to another playlist. Typically, I use this when I want to make a list of songs that I have been playing that have incorrect tags, such that when I go back to the server I can remember what tracks I need to correct in a tag editor. Phil ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
