Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Question: Setting up Multi-Library and Custom Browse

2011-11-29 Thread emalvick

I'm at work at the moment, so I'll try it out this evening. I think you
are on to something, especially with item 2.

I realize now that the Various Artists box probably isn't needed with
my collection, so that may be part of my problem. 

That being said, I have a similar menu for my mainstream music library
and I wonder why it doesn't show a similar behavior.

Does using the Dependent Library to setup a library make a big
difference in the library behavior or performance? I would assume that
it wouldn't make much of a difference as once a library is set up it is
set up.

For instance; I have 3 libraries set up right now.  One for classical,
One for Christmas, and one for Everything Else.

The first two are setup as standard libraries based on their respective
root folders (it's a long story why I wouldn't use genres).

The third library is dependent on everything not in those other two
libraries.  The menus have been much better behaved for this library,
and I thought I had essentially just copied the menu settings to the
Christmas library.  Anyway, I could have just as easily set it up as a
standard library on its own root folder.  Would this have been better?
worse?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Question: Setting up Multi-Library and Custom Browse

2011-11-29 Thread erland

emalvick;673403 Wrote: 
 
 Does using the Dependent Library to setup a library make a big
 difference in the library behavior or performance? I would assume that
 it wouldn't make much of a difference as once a library is set up it is
 set up.
 
 For instance; I have 3 libraries set up right now.  One for classical,
 One for Christmas, and one for Everything Else.
 
 The first two are setup as standard libraries based on their respective
 root folders (it's a long story why I wouldn't use genres).
 
 The third library is dependent on everything not in those other two
 libraries.  The menus have been much better behaved for this library,
 and I thought I had essentially just copied the menu settings to the
 Christmas library.  Anyway, I could have just as easily set it up as a
 standard library on its own root folder.  Would this have been better?
 worse?
 
Dependent libraries is just another way to setup the libraries since
often you want the define sub libraries for some things and have
everything else in a main library. As long as the number of songs shown
(counters in Multi Library menu) are correct it shouldn't have any
effect on functionality/performance after the library have been saved.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Question: Setting up Multi-Library and Custom Browse

2011-11-29 Thread emalvick

Well using the Filtered artists menu worked.  That's good.  I'm not sure
why that worked better than the other setup.  I didn't select any genres
only the library and Album Artists selection, and I was set.

As for the suggestion in item 2, not selecting the Various Artists
option didn't work.  I thought I had tried that before and found the
same thing, but I wasn't certain.

This is good because I discovered that the CB menu I had for my main db
was suffering from the same problem, and the Filtered Artist menu option
will solve that.  

Thanks for the help.  It's giving me a whole new appreciation of how
great your plugins are.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Question: Setting up Multi-Library and Custom Browse

2011-11-28 Thread emalvick

Ok... I've added all my holiday music, and in my Album Artists menu I am
finding that a handful of artists are showing up that do not have albums
in that particular library. If I click on those album artists, their
menu entry is blank.

It seems that the artists that are showing up are artists that

1. are track artists on a compilation album in the Holiday Library AND
2. are album artists in my Mainstream library.

However, there are track artists in the holiday collection that meet
the same criteria in 1. and 2. above that are not listed as Album
Artists, so I am a bit confused at what could be the problem.

The Holiday Library itself seems normal as the library lists the
correct number of tracks.  Browsing by Album shows the correct albums. 
It is only the Album Artist menu that seems to be leaking some
connection to the Mainstream library.  

To add another piece to the puzzle. I also started setting up a
classical library with only one album in it.  Right now I only have one
menu set up for Genre.  I had expected to only see the genres associated
with the classical library in my genre menu, but all the genre's in the
complete library show up, although once I am in one of those genre
menus they show up blank reflecting that they don't really exist in the
classical library.  The classical library only has 6 tracks in it with 2
genres, but this seems to be related to my Album Artist problem in my
Holiday library.

I've tried various settings in the Custom Browse Menus and the
Libraries themselves.  The two libraries; Holiday and Classical are
standard libraries based on a root folder I use to keep that music
separate from my mainstream music. The mainstream library is a
dependent library that is set to exclude music from the holiday and
classical library.  In that particular library, I converted all my old
Custom Browse Menus to only read from the Mainstream Library, and they
work perfectly.  

As far as I can tell I am matching most settings up in the Custom
Browse Libraries with careful care of group and library names and what
is working in my mainstream library... Although I now realize that the
custom browse menus for my mainstream library are not in the same group
as the library name... Yet they work.  Does group name matter?

I'd like to figure this out as it can be a bit annoying to click on a
menu item that is empty or to see genres in my classical music
collection that are obviously not classical music.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Question: Setting up Multi-Library and Custom Browse

2011-11-28 Thread erland

Can you post the *.cb.values.xml or *.cb.xml files which corresponds to
the menus that doesn't work ?

You will find them in the directory which you have configured in the
Custom Browse settings page.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Question: Setting up Multi-Library and Custom Browse

2011-11-28 Thread erland

Hi I need to look into this in more detail to figure out what's actually
wrong in your setup, but two things I'd like you to try:

1.
Try if it works if you create a new album artist menu through Custom
Browse settings page by using the template Filtered Artists and make
sure to select the proper library in the Library parameter.

2.
Try if it makes any difference if you uncheck the Various Artists
section in the Custom Browse menu configuration. The purpose of this
checkbox is to use SBS autodetection of compilation albums but if you
have a real ALBUMARTIST tag set to Various Artist I don't think you
want this checkbox to be checked.

Please let me know if any of the above works, if it doesn't I'll dig
deeper into the configuration and try to see what's wrong. 

Regarding grouping there are two parameters in the Custom Browse menu
configuration that have various effects:
- Library: Controls the filtering
- Menu group: Controls where the menu is displayed

So if you have selected Library but left the Menu group empty it
will be displayed in the top level inside Custom Browse main menu but
it will still have the right filtering. On the other hand, if you have
left Library empty but specified Menu group it will appear among
the library menus but it will not have the proper filtering of
artists.

When you check a checkbox in the Multi Library configuration, it will
justs provide a menu based on the Genres, Artists, Albums menu
templates in Custom Browse but set the Library and Menu group
parameter to the library name.


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[SlimDevices: Plugins] Question: Setting up Multi-Library and Custom Browse

2011-11-27 Thread emalvick

First time finally trying to use the Multi-Library function.  I'm
testing it out by setting up a library for Christmas music separate
from my other music.

Currently, I have 2 libraries set-up.

The Christmas music library is a standard library based on one
directory where it is all at, and the remaining music is set-up as a
dependent library that excludes the Christmas one (as the wiki shows
for setting up a classical library).

I've been testing this out with one album in my Christmas library.  It
is a compilation album that I've set up using a Various Artists Album
Artist tag.

The CB menus are set up so that under the Christmas Group I can browse
by Album Artists, and that specific menu is set for the specific
library.

The problem is that when I browse that menu all the Song Artists (for
this one CD) that are Album Artists on other albums in the overall
library show up in the album artist menu with empty listings.

Is there something I'm missing.  I've played around with various
settings in the CB.  Interestingly, when I try to see if the opposite
occurs with my standard library, it doesn't.


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