Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
mherger wrote: > > I thought 10 seconds delay was normal. Was yours much lower? > > <1s on the dev machine (MacBook), about 3-4 on Pi3B+/pCP or Atom based > Linux box. > > -- > > MichaelIIRC playing Spotty tracks from LMS was always fast. Only using Spotify Connect produced the 10 second delay. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
Interesting thread. I was also sometimes seeing longish delays at the start of tracks. This new release certainly seems better (based on feel rather than any scientific tests). I read the librespot thread. I listen mainly to Classical music and 'track' lengths of 15-20 minutes are not uncommon. I just selected an 18 minute track and it started in about 3-4 seconds with the new Spotty version. As always, many thanks Michael... Hughby's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67120 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
Hi Michael, how do I ensure I receive the update? Thank you You should be notified when there's an update. Latest as of today would be 2.7.5. -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
I thought 10 seconds delay was normal. Was yours much lower? <1s on the dev machine (MacBook), about 3-4 on Pi3B+/pCP or Atom based Linux box. -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
mherger wrote: > > Pi 3b running Max2Play. > > Interesting - my Pi3b+/pCP never showed these delays. But good to see > that patch is working. FWIW: there's an update on its way to you which > would deploy this change to all platforms. You should probably remove > the custom build to make sure you'll get future updates. > > -- > > MichaelI thought 10 seconds delay was normal. Was yours much lower? Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
mherger wrote: > > Pi 3b running Max2Play. > > Interesting - my Pi3b+/pCP never showed these delays. But good to see > that patch is working. FWIW: there's an update on its way to you which > would deploy this change to all platforms. You should probably remove > the custom build to make sure you'll get future updates. > > -- > > Michael Hi Michael, how do I ensure I receive the update? Thank you piguy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68992 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
Pi 3b running Max2Play. Interesting - my Pi3b+/pCP never showed these delays. But good to see that patch is working. FWIW: there's an update on its way to you which would deploy this change to all platforms. You should probably remove the custom build to make sure you'll get future updates. -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
mherger wrote: > > All working now. With the old helper tracks would start playing after > > around 10 seconds now it is less than 3 seconds. > > Well, that sounds great :-). What kind of Pi is this? > > -- > > MichaelPi 3b running Max2Play. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
All working now. With the old helper tracks would start playing after around 10 seconds now it is less than 3 seconds. Well, that sounds great :-). What kind of Pi is this? -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
mherger wrote: > > I thought I would try this new helper but cannot get it to work. I > > renamed the zip file to spotty-custom.zip dropped it into > > The file is not a .zip file, it's an executable. Remove the extension. > Make it executable (sudo chmod a+x spotty-custom). > > And it's for Linux on ARM only. What platform are you running your LMS > on? > > If you can't run it using ./spotty-custom, then something's wrong. > -- > > MichaelAll working now. With the old helper tracks would start playing after around 10 seconds now it is less than 3 seconds. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
mherger wrote: > > I thought I would try this new helper but cannot get it to work. I > > renamed the zip file to spotty-custom.zip dropped it into > > The file is not a .zip file, it's an executable. Remove the extension. > Make it executable (sudo chmod a+x spotty-custom). > > And it's for Linux on ARM only. What platform are you running your LMS > on? > > If you can't run it using ./spotty-custom, then something's wrong. > -- > > Michael Raspberry Pi. I'll try again. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
I thought I would try this new helper but cannot get it to work. I renamed the zip file to spotty-custom.zip dropped it into The file is not a .zip file, it's an executable. Remove the extension. Make it executable (sudo chmod a+x spotty-custom). And it's for Linux on ARM only. What platform are you running your LMS on? If you can't run it using ./spotty-custom, then something's wrong. -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
slartibartfast wrote: > I renamed the zip file to spotty-custom.zip dropped it into > Unzip it perhaps Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com Author Radio France (FIP etc) plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
mherger wrote: > > Apologies - the exact binary is "spotty-hf (v0.13.0)" > > Ok, please download > https://www.dropbox.com/s/m7gcj3s8tse0glw/spotty-custom?dl=0 and copy it > > to your Pi. Make sure it's called spotty-custom. Move it to a place in > your search path (see LMS/Settings/Information). Then restart LMS. > Double-check whether Spotty is picking it as the binary of choice. > Re-run your tests. > > -- > > MichaelI thought I would try this new helper but cannot get it to work. I renamed the zip file to spotty-custom.zip dropped it into /use/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin I restarted LMS and the old helper is still used. What am I doing wrong? Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
Success! My test results... 1. When pCP is already selected as a device in the Android Spotify app: - A random track starts playing after 4 seconds - Skipping tracks also takes 4 seconds 2. When a track is playing through my phone's speakers and I switch to pCP in the Spotify app: - Track continues playing after 9 seconds Thank you for your patience and support, Michael. Spotty is excellent now! :D Cheers piguy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68992 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
Apologies - the exact binary is "spotty-hf (v0.13.0)" Ok, please download https://www.dropbox.com/s/m7gcj3s8tse0glw/spotty-custom?dl=0 and copy it to your Pi. Make sure it's called spotty-custom. Move it to a place in your search path (see LMS/Settings/Information). Then restart LMS. Double-check whether Spotty is picking it as the binary of choice. Re-run your tests. -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
mherger wrote: > > The Spotty Helper Application is set to "Select Automatically > > (default)" > > and then it would say what flavour that was. > > > I would be willing to copy a new helper, and I believe I would be > > capable! :) > Ok, I can hopefully build a new binary with this change applied: > https://github.com/librespot-org/librespot/pull/297 > > But in order to do so I need to know what exact binary you're using. > > -- > -- > > Michael Apologies - the exact binary is "spotty-hf (v0.13.0)" Cheers piguy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68992 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
The Spotty Helper Application is set to "Select Automatically (default)" ...and then it would say what flavour that was. I would be willing to copy a new helper, and I believe I would be capable! :) Ok, I can hopefully build a new binary with this change applied: https://github.com/librespot-org/librespot/pull/297 But in order to do so I need to know what exact binary you're using. -- -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
mherger wrote: > > I'm not sure I can offer any more insights for you, other than to say > > there is -always- a lengthy delay (as described in my first post) > when > > starting or skipping tracks via the Spotify Android app. The delay > > becomes a few seconds less when playing tracks directly via LMS. > > When you go to Settings/Advanced/Spotty, what helper would it report to > > be using? Would you be willing and able to copy a new helper to your SD > > card and move it to the right place manually? > > > The card is the default one that came shipped with the rpi 3B+ from > > IQAudio (SanDisk 16GB) - > > What "Class" or data throughput does it advertise on the package? > > -- > > Michael Hi Michael, The Spotty Helper Application is set to "Select Automatically (default)" I would be willing to copy a new helper, and I believe I would be capable! :) The SD Card is Class 10 Cheers piguy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68992 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
I'm not sure I can offer any more insights for you, other than to say there is -always- a lengthy delay (as described in my first post) when starting or skipping tracks via the Spotify Android app. The delay becomes a few seconds less when playing tracks directly via LMS. When you go to Settings/Advanced/Spotty, what helper would it report to be using? Would you be willing and able to copy a new helper to your SD card and move it to the right place manually? The card is the default one that came shipped with the rpi 3B+ from IQAudio (SanDisk 16GB) - What "Class" or data throughput does it advertise on the package? -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
mherger wrote: > > Skipping tracks in LMS seems 5 seconds faster than via the Spotify > > Android app (10 secs instead of 15) > > > > I just uploaded the log for you > > You'd have to tell me where in there you experienced the slow response > times. > > Where would your LMS cache live? > > -- > > Michael Many thanks for your continued support, Michael I'm not sure I can offer any more insights for you, other than to say there is -always- a lengthy delay (as described in my first post) when starting or skipping tracks via the Spotify Android app. The delay becomes a few seconds less when playing tracks directly via LMS. I suppose the LMS cache lives on the SD card (?), as I haven't changed the default cache settings or set up a connection to my Synology NAS yet. The card is the default one that came shipped with the rpi 3B+ from IQAudio (SanDisk 16GB) - http://iqaudio.co.uk/raspberry-pi/65-sd-card-16gb.html Cheers piguy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68992 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
Oh, and some timely discussion going on: in https://github.com/librespot-org/librespot/pull/297 there's discussion about how to speed up playback start in librespot, the library Spotty is using. It lead me to a theory where storage could be a problem. I was asking about where your cache was living. If it was the SD card, what kind of product is it? Could it be it's a rather slow card? -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
Skipping tracks in LMS seems 5 seconds faster than via the Spotify Android app (10 secs instead of 15) I just uploaded the log for you You'd have to tell me where in there you experienced the slow response times. Where would your LMS cache live? -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
mherger wrote: > > It takes about 30 seconds for a track to start playing when played > via > > the Spotify app on Android. This is roughly the same whether played > > through wired gigabit or wireless (I've tested both 2.4 and 5GHz). > > What if you used the LMS Spotty interface? Any faster? > > It can always be helpful to get a log file: set logging for > plugin.spotty to INFO, try again, upload the server.log.zip > > https://www.dropbox.com/request/T3RctyzGgNg0oFDubq6a > > -- > > Michael Thanks Michael Skipping tracks in LMS seems 5 seconds faster than via the Spotify Android app (10 secs instead of 15) I just uploaded the log for you Cheers piguy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68992 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
It takes about 30 seconds for a track to start playing when played via the Spotify app on Android. This is roughly the same whether played through wired gigabit or wireless (I've tested both 2.4 and 5GHz). What if you used the LMS Spotty interface? Any faster? It can always be helpful to get a log file: set logging for plugin.spotty to INFO, try again, upload the server.log.zip https://www.dropbox.com/request/T3RctyzGgNg0oFDubq6a -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
slartibartfast wrote: > Can you give an example of the problem you are seeing? > > Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk Hi slartibartfast, It takes about 30 seconds for a track to start playing when played via the Spotify app on Android. This is roughly the same whether played through wired gigabit or wireless (I've tested both 2.4 and 5GHz). If I skip a track via the app, it takes 12-15 seconds to start playing. Pausing a track is almost instant. Cheers piguy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68992 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
piguy wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm currently running a rpi 3B+ with pCP 4.1.0, LMS 7.9.2 and Spotty > 2.7.4 - but it is painfully slow when playing Spotify via Android app > (Spotify Connect) > > I'm experiencing the same issues as detailed in this thread: > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?108789-Spotty-on-Rpi3-Very-slow > > My rpi is wired gigabit to the router > > Has anyone got a solution? It seems I'm not the only one struggling > > CheersCan you give an example of the problem you are seeing? Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
Can you speculate as to what might be the cause of the potential network issue? I'm willing to try things to get it working properly And when I say "I'm sorry, no, as I said before", you're going to ask "are you sure?"? -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
Thanks Michael, I understand Can you speculate as to what might be the cause of the potential network issue? I'm willing to try things to get it working properly Cheers piguy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68992 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
I have not modified Squeezelite's buffer sizes in any way. Could you please advise how best to go about this? I'm really sorry, no. I tried a few ideas in the other thread. But as I'm using a Pi 3B+ with pCP myself, and I know there are many others, I don't see how this would not be a local limitation (network). -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
Hi Michael, thanks for your reply I have not modified Squeezelite's buffer sizes in any way. Could you please advise how best to go about this? Cheers piguy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68992 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
I'm currently running a rpi 3B+ with pCP 4.1.0, LMS 7.9.2 and Spotty 2.7.4 - but it is painfully slow when playing Spotify via Android app (Spotify Connect) Did you modify your squeezelite's buffer sizes? -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty really slow...
Hi all, I'm currently running a rpi 3B+ with pCP 4.1.0, LMS 7.9.2 and Spotty 2.7.4 - but it is painfully slow when playing Spotify via Android app (Spotify Connect) I'm experiencing the same issues as detailed in this thread: https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?108789-Spotty-on-Rpi3-Very-slow My rpi is wired gigabit to the router Has anyone got a solution? It seems I'm not the only one struggling Cheers piguy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68992 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
