Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite for Windows: (loud) high pitch noise on pause

2019-05-10 Thread dolodobendan


ralphy wrote: 
> Thank you for continuing to investigate.  I always believed you.  I'm
> sorry if it seemed otherwise.

It was just so weird that you obviously didn't know what I was talking
about, even when I posted the first sample of the beep. I never would've
thought that you just didn't hear it.

ralphy wrote: 
> I was able to reproduce the high pitch noise on my win10 work laptop and
> on a linux build using portaudio and your test 8KHz mp3. I had to use an
> old USB sound card that supports native 8000Hz playback to recreate the
> issue on linux.  If resampling for unsupported native samplerates is
> enabled in squeezelite the high pitch noise is not audible.

Not audible or not there? As we discovered, "not audible" is quite a
subjective thing. :p

ralphy wrote: 
> I found the problem in the Daphile Full DSD support changes and 'fixed
> it.'
> (https://github.com/ralph-irving/squeezelite/commit/6cef0f33c888932efbdf3f5cd43ca9d6c2159937)
> 
> 'New windows and mac builds 1.9.2-1145'
> (https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/squeezelite/) include
> the change.

Great, I'll give it a try right away. Thank you!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite for Windows: (loud) high pitch noise on pause

2019-05-10 Thread ralphy


dolodobendan wrote: 
> That's great news! Now please believe me when I say that it's always*
> (exceptions see below) there. Maybe you and I don't hear it (anymore) if
> the the beep has a higher frequency (=file with higher kHz), but I can
> measure it.
> 
> I did some more testing. My findings:
> 
> >   > 
  - It's not only mp3s but (at least) also FLACs.
  - It happens with audio files with kHz below or equal to whatever is
  > set in Sound / Playback / [Name of device] / Properties / Advanced
  > > > 
> 
> I tested it with the Windows version only. I could test the Mac
> version, too, if it helps.

Thank you for continuing to investigate.  I always believed you.  I'm
sorry if it seemed otherwise.

I was able to reproduce the high pitch noise on my win10 work laptop and
on a linux build using portaudio and your test 8KHz mp3. I had to use an
old USB sound card that supports native 8000Hz playback to recreate the
issue on linux.  If resampling for unsupported native samplerates is
enabled in squeezelite the high pitch noise is not audible.

I found the problem in the Daphile Full DSD support changes and 'fixed
it.'
(https://github.com/ralph-irving/squeezelite/commit/6cef0f33c888932efbdf3f5cd43ca9d6c2159937)

'New windows and mac builds 1.9.2-1145'
(https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/squeezelite/) include
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite for Windows: (loud) high pitch noise on pause

2019-05-09 Thread dolodobendan


ralphy wrote: 
> Yes, when I pause this mp3 I DO hear the beep!  Thanks.

That's great news! Now please believe me when I say that it's always*
(exceptions see below) there. Maybe you and I don't hear it (anymore),
but I can measure it.

I did some more testing. My findings:

  
- It's not only mp3s but (at least) also FLACs.
- It happens with audio files with kHz below or equal to whatever is
  set in Sound / Playback / [Name of device] / Properties / Advanced
  

I tested it with the Windows version only. I could test the Mac version,
too, if it helps.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite for Windows: (loud) high pitch noise on pause

2019-05-09 Thread ralphy


dolodobendan wrote: 
> Please test this mp3 with your LMS and let me know:
Yes, when I pause this mp3 I DO hear the beep!  Thanks.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite for Windows: (loud) high pitch noise on pause

2019-05-06 Thread dolodobendan


ralphy wrote: 
> Yes and that's great news, but without being able to reproduce the beep
> on pause it'll be difficult to fix.

Please test this mp3 with your LMS and let me know:

27304

ralphy wrote: 
> Give it try and let me know. If it does, I'll make it available on my SF
> client builds site.

No beep.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite for Windows: (loud) high pitch noise on pause

2019-05-06 Thread ralphy


dolodobendan wrote: 
> No beep. Just to make sure we're talking about the same setup here:
> 
> I used the "squeezelite-1.9.1-1139nodsd-dll.zip" exe and the
> "squeezelite-1.9.1-1139-dll" dlls.

Yes and that's great news, but without being able to reproduce the beep
on pause it'll be difficult to fix.

You should no longer need to use any of the previous dll builds provided
the new all-in-one version below has no beep as well.

'squeezelite-1.9.1-1142-win32.zip'
(http://ralph-irving.users.sourceforge.net/files/squeezelite-1.9.1-1142-win32.zip)
without support for DSD or DOP.

Give it try and let me know. If it does, I'll make it available on my SF
client builds site.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite for Windows: (loud) high pitch noise on pause

2019-05-05 Thread dolodobendan


I had another look at those ticks you hear. Maybe you hear them because
they are below 11 kHz and I just hear them faintly because the beep is
that damn loud.

27303

I don't think these ticks happen in squeezelite normally, but it's due
to my lazy copy'n'paste work when I made the five second file.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite for Windows: (loud) high pitch noise on pause

2019-05-05 Thread dolodobendan


ralphy wrote: 
> No, I don't hear the beep in the 11kHz.flac file just the ticks...

That explains a lot. But it's there.

ralphy wrote: 
> Yes, I can hear the 1s beep in nerv.flac and that would drive me crazy
> too.  Unfortunately, I don't experience that on either laptop.

Maybe you experienced it but did not hear it? Did you try pausing an mp3
sampled to 11kHz? Only then there's a 5.5 kHz beep. That you don't hear
the 11kHz beep with the 22kHz files, well, we already established that.
:p

ralphy wrote: 
> That's good it rules out a lot of changes that might cause the beep.

Always happy to help rule out stuff.

ralphy wrote: 
> Squeezeilte 1.9.0 incorporated the full dsd support from the Daphile
> project, so here's a '1.9.1-1139 build with DSD support disabled'
> (http://ralph-irving.users.sourceforge.net/files/squeezelite-1.9.1-1139nodsd-dll.zip)
> to try next.
> Put it in the folder with the DLLs from the first build.

No beep. Just to make sure we're talking about the same setup here:

I used the "squeezelite-1.9.1-1139nodsd-dll.zip" exe and the
"squeezelite-1.9.1-1139-dll" dlls.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite for Windows: (loud) high pitch noise on pause

2019-05-05 Thread ralphy


dolodobendan wrote: 
> Erm, "ticking"? It's continuous...

No, I don't hear the beep in the 11kHz.flac file just the ticks...

dolodobendan wrote: 
> Did you change these sox-things in LMS by any chance? I never touched
> those.

No I'm using standard lms convert.conf rules for flac and mp3

dolodobendan wrote: 
> The beep is one second long here (parameter -C 1). (Recorded this with
> Audacity.)

Yes, I can hear the 1s beep in nerv.flac and that would drive me crazy
too.  Unfortunately, I don't experience that on either laptop.

dolodobendan wrote: 
> No beeps! I tried:
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > squeezelite-win.exe -o 0 -s server -n test
  > squeezelite-win.exe -o 2 -s server -n test
  > 
  > 0 - Microsoft Sound Mapper - Output [MME]
  > 2 - Primary Sound Driver [Windows DirectSound]
  > 

> > 

That's good it rules out a lot of changes that might cause the beep.

Squeezeilte 1.9.0 incorporated the full dsd support from the Daphile
project, so here's a '1.9.1-1139 build with DSD support disabled'
(http://ralph-irving.users.sourceforge.net/files/squeezelite-1.9.1-1139nodsd-dll.zip)
to try next.
Put it in the folder with the DLLs from the first build.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite for Windows: (loud) high pitch noise on pause

2019-05-04 Thread dolodobendan


ralphy wrote: 
> Thanks for the sample I can hear the "ticking" in that flac file.

Erm, "ticking"? It's continuous...

ralphy wrote: 
> However, I don't experience it with my win7 or win10 laptops with either
> build.

Did you change these sox-things in LMS by any chance? I never touched
those.

ralphy wrote: 
> If you don't specify an output device when starting squeezelite-win will
> use the default defined in the control panel and the MME (Windows
> multimedia extension audio driver), which you almost always don't want
> to use unless you are sending remote audio to an RDP client.

I guess I use whatever is the default. However, it doesn't matter in
this case, as I hear this with all devices.

ralphy wrote: 
> I'm trying to narrow down the change which might be causing the ticking.

No "ticking"! It's a five second beeep! 

ralphy wrote: 
> Please try 'the last 1.8.7-1086 version'
> (http://ralph-irving.users.sourceforge.net/files/squeezelite-1.8.7-1086-dll.zip).
> The file only contains the squeezelite-win.exe, you need all the dlls
> from the '1.9.1-1139 earlier test build'
> (http://ralph-irving.users.sourceforge.net/files/squeezelite-1.9.1-1139-dll.zip).

I'll test it right away, thank you!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite for Windows: (loud) high pitch noise on pause

2019-05-04 Thread ralphy


Thanks for the sample I can hear the "ticking" in that flac file.

However, I don't experience it with my win7 or win10 laptops with either
build.

If you don't specify an output device when starting squeezelite-win will
use the default defined in the control panel and the MME (Windows
multimedia extension audio driver), which you almost always don't want
to use unless you are sending remote audio to an RDP client.

Please try 'the last 1.8.7-1086 version'
(http://ralph-irving.users.sourceforge.net/files/squeezelite-1.8.7-1086-dll.zip).
The file only contains the squeezelite-win.exe, you need all the dlls
from the '1.9.1-1139 earlier test build'
(http://ralph-irving.users.sourceforge.net/files/squeezelite-1.9.1-1139-dll.zip).
I'm trying to narrow down the change which might be causing the
ticking.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite for Windows: (loud) high pitch noise on pause

2019-05-01 Thread dolodobendan


Elmex Gelee wrote: 
> 
> Perhaps most people are not able to hear the tone, but if you are, it's
> really, really, really annoying.

It would be kind of awkward if that's the reason nobody was able to
confirm this. But it's easy to test:

27283

If you don't hear this, then, well...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite for Windows: (loud) high pitch noise on pause

2019-04-29 Thread Elmex Gelee


Thank godness, I am not the only one :-)

I have the same issue, the 1.8.XXX are fine, the 1.9.XXX have the issue.
Your special build has the issue as well.

I even tried it on a Win7 VM guest with a Win10 host...same thing.
(Linux builds are fine.)

Perhaps most people are not able to hear the tone, but if you are, it's
really, really, really annoying.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite for Windows: (loud) high pitch noise on pause

2019-04-28 Thread dolodobendan


ralphy wrote: 
> I still can't reproduce the noise on pause.  
> 
> To try and narrow down the cause I've built a 'squeezelite-win
> 1.9.1-1139 that uses the DLLs from the 1.8.4-737 release'
> (http://ralph-irving.users.sourceforge.net/files/squeezelite-1.9.1-1139-dll.zip).
> 
> The ffmpeg DLLs are not included as they crash squeezelite when an alac
> or wma file is played.  That's partially why I moved away from DLLS for
> the decoders.
> This should not matter as you only mention using flac and mp3.
> 
> If you experience the high pitch noise on pause with this build then
> it's something that's changed in squeezelite.
> 
> If you do NOT then it's likely something that's changed in portaudio.

Thank you for not giving up on me here.

The noise is there with this build, too.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite for Windows: (loud) high pitch noise on pause

2019-04-25 Thread ralphy


I still can't reproduce the noise on pause.  

To try and narrow down the cause I've built a 'squeezelite-win
1.9.1-1139 that uses the DLLs from the 1.8.4-737 release'
(http://ralph-irving.users.sourceforge.net/files/squeezelite-1.9.1-1139-dll.zip).

The ffmpeg DLLs are not included as they crash squeezelite when an alac
or wma file is played.  That's partially why I moved away from DLLS for
the decoders.
This should not matter as you only mention using flac and mp3.

If you experience the high pitch noise on pause with this build then
it's something that's changed in squeezelite.

If you do NOT then it's something that's changed in portaudio.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite for Windows: (loud) high pitch noise on pause

2019-04-17 Thread dolodobendan


Thank you @reinholdk and @kidstypike, I'll have a look!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite for Windows: (loud) high pitch noise on pause

2019-04-17 Thread dolodobendan


ralphy wrote: 
> Thanks for the file.
> 
> I've been using headphones with squeezelite-win on win10 for the last
> two days, but I'm still unable to experience the noise on pause.

You don't need headphones to hear this:

27206

ralphy wrote: 
> There's not really anything else I can do without steps to reproduce the
> problem.

I just have to hit pause while listening to some mp3s like the one I
sent you. Happens with all my LMS installations (QLMS on my NAS, Windows
version on my desktop PC) in combination with Squeezelite. No problems
with iPeng or any of the hardware players (Touch & Receiver).

Steps to reproduce (tested on Windows and Linux systems):

  
- Install LMS
- Have an LQ mp3
- Play that file with Squeezelite for Windows
- Pause
  

Please tell me how I can help.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite for Windows: (loud) high pitch noise on pause

2019-04-17 Thread ralphy


Thanks for the file.

I've been using headphones with squeezelite-win on win10 for the last
two days, but I'm still unable to experience the noise on pause.

There's not really anything else I can do without steps to reproduce the
problem.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite for Windows: (loud) high pitch noise on pause

2019-04-16 Thread reinholdk


kidstypike wrote: 
> I use Easy context menu, just right click in a folder -
> https://www.sordum.org/7615/easy-context-menu-v1-6/
> 

That's the context menu for folders (or the background of folder views
as in your case).

You could do this on your own as well by adding a registry key 
Code:

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\open cmd as admin here\command

and as its default value add for example
Code:

powershell.exe -Command Start-Process cmd \"/k cd /d %V\" -Verb RunAs

For the background of folders it would be "Directory\Background\shell".

Sorry for getting off topic here.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite for Windows: (loud) high pitch noise on pause

2019-04-15 Thread kidstypike


dolodobendan wrote: 
> Thanks, I didn't know that! Is it possible to open cmd with admin rights
> this way, too?

I use Easy context menu, just right click in a folder -
https://www.sordum.org/7615/easy-context-menu-v1-6/

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite for Windows: (loud) high pitch noise on pause

2019-04-15 Thread reinholdk


dolodobendan wrote: 
> Thanks, I didn't know that! Is it possible to open cmd with admin rights
> this way, too?

I don't know of any direct way, unfortunately. Even the Ctrl+Shift
modifier that works from the Run-box (Win+R) doesn't work here.

But if you really want it you can built it on your own:

1) In general, you can enter any program plus arguments in explorer's
address bar and explorer will start it with the current path as the
working directory. If you don't want to prefix the program name with the
full path it must be located in a path mentioned in the PATH environment
variable.

2) Pick a way to run an elevated command prompt according to answers
from 'here' (https://stackoverflow.com/q/19098101). For example, if you
enter

Code:

powershell.exe -Command "Start-Process cmd \"/k cd /d %cd%\" -Verb RunAs"

 in the explorer's address bar, it'll open a cmd prompt as admin in the
current folder.

3) Now combine 1+2 and create a batch file for the command and put it in
a path of the PATH variable or add it's path to the PATH variable.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite for Windows: (loud) high pitch noise on pause

2019-04-15 Thread dolodobendan


reinholdk wrote: 
> Simply click in the address bar of the File Explorer (so that the
> current path is selected) and enter "cmd" without quotes and press
> enter. Works also with "powershell", btw.

Thanks, I didn't know that! Is it possible to open cmd with admin rights
this way, too?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite for Windows: (loud) high pitch noise on pause

2019-04-15 Thread reinholdk


dolodobendan wrote: 
> Will do. It's a bit annoying that shift + right click on a folder now
> offers Power Shell instead of CMD.

Simply click in the address bar of the File Explorer (so that the
current path is selected) and enter "cmd" without quotes and press
enter. Works also with "powershell", btw.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite for Windows: (loud) high pitch noise on pause

2019-04-14 Thread dolodobendan


ralphy wrote: 
> Do the WASAPI devices work if you add -a :1 otherwise the control panel
> settings for the sound card must be 16bit 44100 for WASAPI devices to
> work in shared mode with squeezelite.

WASAPI works with "-a :1" added. "Default format" was set to "16 bit,
48000 Hz (DVD Quality)" which is the default option. I changed it now to
"CD Quality".

ralphy wrote: 
> Please use a command prompt for testing instead of power shell.

Will do. It's a bit annoying that shift + right click on a folder now
offers Power Shell instead of CMD.

ralphy wrote: 
> Could you send me a link to the mp3 file you're using for this as well.

Just give me a sec, it's large. I'll cut it, test if it still happens
and then upload it here.

(The effect should be visible with any mp3, though.)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite for Windows: (loud) high pitch noise on pause

2019-04-14 Thread ralphy


Do the WASAPI devices work if you add -a :1 otherwise the control panel
settings for the sound card must be 16bit 44100 for WASAPI devices to
work in shared mode with squeezelite.

Please use a command prompt for testing instead of power shell.

Could you send me a link to the mp3 file you're using for this as well.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite for Windows: (loud) high pitch noise on pause

2019-04-13 Thread dolodobendan


Thank you for taking a look.

ralphy wrote: 
> I haven't been able to reproduce this on my win7 or 10 systems.

Interesting, because I can reproduce it on all my systems (all Windows
10 #1809).

ralphy wrote: 
> What windows hostapi are you using? Direct Sound, MME, WASAPI etc

I tested these output devices:

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Devices 0 to 3 had the beep, 4 got me a lot of


Code:

_pa_open:395 error opening device 4 - Speakers (High Definition Audio 
Device) [Windows WASAPI] : Invalid device



Device 8:


Code:

_pa_open:395 error opening device 8 - Output (HD Audio HDMI out) [Windows 
WDM-KS] : Invalid device



Device 9:


Code:

test_open:237 error opening portaudio stream: Device unavailable
  output_init_common:391 unable to open output device: 9
  



Device 10 I didn't test because it is not connected.

ralphy wrote: 
> 1.8.4 uses a much older version of the portaudio library.  These days, I
> update to the latest version of portaudio as part of building a win32
> release.
> I also checked on the portaudio mailing list and there have been no
> reports of such a problem.

Maybe because nobody noticed it? I asked some friends if they see this
low noise output, too. They do. But it's not audible (at least not with
their or mine speakers). I'll send them a low quality mp3 to test it for
this really loud and annoying beep.

ralphy wrote: 
> With the player stopped, does the noise persist if you add -C 10 to the
> squeezelite-win command line?
> This forces squeezelite to close the device after nothing has been
> playing for 10 seconds.

With -C 10 the noise stops after ten seconds, with -C 1 after one.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite for Windows: (loud) high pitch noise on pause

2019-04-13 Thread ralphy


I haven't been able to reproduce this on my win7 or 10 systems.

What windows hostapi are you using? Direct Sound, MME, WASAPI etc

1.8.4 uses a much older version of the portaudio library.  These days, I
update to the latest version of portaudio as part of building a win32
release.
I also checked on the portaudio mailing list and there have been no
reports of such a problem.

With the player stopped, does the noise persist if you add -C 10 to the
squeezelite-win command line?
This forces squeezelite to close the device after nothing has been
playing for 10 seconds.



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[SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite for Windows: (loud) high pitch noise on pause

2019-04-09 Thread dolodobendan


Moved from 'here'
(https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?108550-Announce-Squeezelite-X=937861=1#post937861).

On pause:

mp3 (22.050kHz/64kbps) -> very loud noise
mp3 (44.1kHz/320kbps) -> low noise, not audible (but visible in the
sound mixer)
FLAC (44.1kHz/16bit) -> low noise, not audible (but visible in the
sound mixer)
FLAC (96kHz/24bit) -> no noise

That's what is happening with squeezelite-1.9.1-1139-win32.

Squeezelite-1.8.4-737-win32 does not show this behavior.

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