Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
Triode;488897 Wrote: For people having a problem with NAS cpu load, try the latest iPlayer (0.9j) plugin and set the prefer wma preference on the settings page. Brilliant. I can also now listen to BBC outside the UK using iPlayer on the QNAP without rebuffering. Thanks for this simple solution. -- MunichMelly System Info Squeezebox Duet (receiver firmware 65) QNAP 209 pro II SSOTS: 4.1-7.4.0 Squeezebox Server Version: 7.4.1 - r28947 @ Tue Oct 20 08:02:44 PDT 2009 Operating system: Linux - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: armv5tejl-linux Perl Version: 5.10.0 - armv5tejl-linux-thread-multi MySQL Version: 5.0.27 BBC iPlayer (v0.9j) BBC iPlayer Extras (v0.3) MunichMelly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33549 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
Parky;489201 Wrote: Hmm - that's a bit strange. Looking at the 'SVN repository' (http://svn.slimdevices.com/slim/7.4/trunk/vendor/faad2) it builds it with -DFIXED_POINT in the 'buildme-crosstool.sh' (http://svn.slimdevices.com/slim/7.4/trunk/vendor/faad2/buildme-crosstool.sh?revision=25793view=markup) script but doesn't with 'buildme-linux.sh' (http://svn.slimdevices.com/slim/7.4/trunk/vendor/faad2/buildme-linux.sh?revision=25248view=markup) which suggests the ARM builds are now being done natively? I'd really recommend building/delivering a fixed-point version for ARM, I'd even be willing to put my copy on a server somewhere but know that many people would be wary of an untrusted source. 7.4.1 != 7.4-trunk Let's see what we find in the tarball of the next stable release (7.4.2). -- flipflip Check out flipflip's 'Squeezebox Server On DiskStation (SSODS) and on TurboStations (SSOTS)' (http://oinkzwurgl.org/ssods/)! Please do NOT file SSODS bugs in (SD's) bugzilla. Use the forums. And only the forums. Thanks. flipflip's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
flipflip;489767 Wrote: 7.4.1 != 7.4-trunk Let's see what we find in the tarball of the next stable release (7.4.2). I wouldn't be convinced there will be a 7.4.2 as development has moved to 7.5 and it depends on the number of bugs found in 7.4.x. It does seem well known that fixed point faad uses lower cpu on these devices so I would recommend including a fixed point version in the builds. It seems to be dependant on the specific device whether it is necessary though to make aac decoding work at a given bit rate. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
This fixed my continual rebuffering problem on live and listen again BBC radio. Thanks very, very much :) A happy non uk resident Radio4 listener. SSOTS Release 4.1-7.4.0. Squeezebox Server 7.4.0-28672 iPlayer (0.9j) QNAP TurboStation TS-109 / 3.1.0 build 0708T -- TomBed TomBed's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34545 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
bpa;487880 Wrote: It is interesting to note the AACplus at 48k has a higher CPU load than 128k AAC. It looks like the psychoacoustic additions of AACplus are processor intensive. I had assumed the slower speed link would be less of a system load than a higher speed link. Both streams work fine in (the development version of) SSOTS using the Bin/arm-linux/faad shipped with SBS 7.4.1. faad calls itself a floating point version. I see higher CPU load (50% or so) with 48k-aac+-stream compared to the 128k-aac-stream (25% or so). This is on a TS-219 (it says 1200 BohoMIPS in /proc/cpuinfo). -- flipflip Check out flipflip's 'Squeezebox Server On DiskStation (SSODS) and on TurboStations (SSOTS)' (http://oinkzwurgl.org/ssods/)! Please do NOT file SSODS bugs in (SD's) bugzilla. Use the forums. And only the forums. Thanks. flipflip's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
For people having a problem with NAS cpu load, try the latest iPlayer (0.9j) plugin and set the prefer wma preference on the settings page. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
Triode;488266 Wrote: I've updated the main BBCiPlayer version to include the workaround in the RTMP.pm file, so you should not need to install this manually now - just install 0.9h and it should work on the problem architecture. I have updated to 0.9h on my previously problematic QNAP, and the Listen Again functionality works. Again, many thanks to Triode and bpa for their time and effort to get this fixed. -- majones majones's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
Re the original problem with the arm archiecture on QNAPs devices. I've updated the main BBCiPlayer version to include the workaround in the RTMP.pm file, so you should not need to install this manually now - just install 0.9h and it should work on the problem architecture. (not withstanding the more recent issue of faad causing high cpu load) -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
Some stats in case it helps. I'm running on a 500MHz armv5tejl so here's some figures from the cpu% using 'top' swapping versions of faad Code: Soma FM 48k AACplus http://www.somafm.com/illstreet48.pls Floating Fixed slimserver 25%+ 10-15% faad 70-75% 21-25%, flac 1% 4-5% Radio Paradise AAC 128k http://www.radioparadise.com/musiclinks/rp_128aac-2.m3u Floating Fixed slimserver 50-55% 30-35% faad 45-55% 8-11%, flac 2-3% 4-8% Basically I get rebuffering every 8 seconds on the SOMA and just about get away without rebuffering on Radio Paradise I didn't bother switching off flac encoding (suggested by some) as you can see it isn't the major lag. When streaming a simple mp3 file the slimserver uses around 12% cpu -- Parky Parky's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30307 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
It is interesting to note the AACplus at 48k has a higher CPU load than 128k AAC. It looks like the psychoacoustic additions of AACplus are processor intensive. I had assumed the slower speed link would be less of a system load than a higher speed link. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
bpa;487300 Wrote: Faad has been built to use floating point - most NAS do not have FPU in their processor so it is emulated and this is a very processor intensive - You should request flipflip to build fixed point version of faad. A few weeks ago Logitech changed to building faad with fixed point - it looks like flipflip hasn't noticed. The next SSODS will use the faad shipped with Squeezebox Server. -- flipflip Check out flipflip's 'Squeezebox Server On DiskStation (SSODS) and on TurboStations (SSOTS)' (http://oinkzwurgl.org/ssods/)! Please do NOT file SSODS bugs in (SD's) bugzilla. Use the forums. And only the forums. Thanks. flipflip's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
Does the SBS version of faad for ARM work with QNAP ? My concern is because QNAP seems to have a strange mixed endian architecture which caused problems with BBCiPlayer and the plugin needed a special QNAP patch. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
bpa;487403 Wrote: Does the SBS version of faad for ARM work with QNAP ? My concern is because QNAP seems to have a strange mixed endian architecture which caused problems with BBCiPlayer and the plugin needed a special QNAP patch. Well, at least it doesn't segfault or so when I type ./faad -h... But I don't know if it works. I don't even know for what formats it is used. I only have .mp3 (and some .flac) files :) I binary-patch the faad (and the other binaries that come with SBS) to use the SSODS libraries instead of the ones in /lib and /usr/lib. It seems to work as far as I can tell. And I tried to compile everything with VFP support. But I didn't manage to find out if it is used or not. -- flipflip Check out flipflip's 'Squeezebox Server On DiskStation (SSODS) and on TurboStations (SSOTS)' (http://oinkzwurgl.org/ssods/)! Please do NOT file SSODS bugs in (SD's) bugzilla. Use the forums. And only the forums. Thanks. flipflip's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
The mixed endian issue will only come up when handling packing/unpacking 64bit words so seg faulting wouldn't happen but the decoded audio stream would be garbled occassionally. I don't think the issue will occur with a fixed point version as 64bit is mainly used with floating pt operations but it is worthwhile testing. faad is only used to decode AAC and AAC+ formats so a test would be to play http://www.somafm.com/illstreet48.pls on an SB3 or Boom. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
I see. Thanks. I'll test it. -- flipflip Check out flipflip's 'Squeezebox Server On DiskStation (SSODS) and on TurboStations (SSOTS)' (http://oinkzwurgl.org/ssods/)! Please do NOT file SSODS bugs in (SD's) bugzilla. Use the forums. And only the forums. Thanks. flipflip's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
bpa;486972 Wrote: It's definitely using faad - you just have to find it. Enable logging with os.paths set to DEBUG and also set player.source to DEBUG and then try to play an AAC file or stream. Check the log for faad - there should be one line where a full command line with path to faad is shown. o.k. I enabled the relevant loging (see attached file serverlog-faad.zip) and it seemed to find faad, but when I go to this directory I still can't work out how to execute it to get the banner you're looking for (see attached file faad search.txt) +---+ |Filename: serverlog-faad.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8740| +---+ -- MunichMelly System Info Squeezebox Duet (receiver firmware 65) QNAP 209 pro II SSOTS: 4.1-7.4.0 Squeezebox Server Version: 7.4.1 - r28947 @ Tue Oct 20 08:02:44 PDT 2009 Operating system: Linux - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: armv5tejl-linux Perl Version: 5.10.0 - armv5tejl-linux-thread-multi MySQL Version: 5.0.27 BBC iPlayer (v0.9f) BBC iPlayer Extras (v0.3) MunichMelly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33549 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
Copying from the log you type the following at a shell prompt /opt/ssods4/bin/faad If you are in the current directory then you can try (don't forget leading dot) ./faad faad by itself will only run faad if faad is on the path. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
bpa;487290 Wrote: Copying from the log you type the following at a shell prompt /opt/ssods4/bin/faad Simple when you know how (which I obviously didn't). Here's the result (hope it helps) ... [~] # /opt/ssods4/bin/faad *** Ahead Software MPEG-4 AAC Decoder V2.7 ** Patched for SqueezeCenter http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10602 Build: Oct 20 2009 Copyright 2002-2004: Ahead Software AG http://www.audiocoding.com Floating point version This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License. ** Usage: /opt/ssods4/bin/faad [options] infile.aac Options: -hShows this help screen. -iShows info about the input file. -a X Write MPEG-4 AAC ADTS output file. -tAssume old ADTS format. -o X Set output filename. -f X Set output format. Valid values for X are: 1: Microsoft WAV format (default). 2: RAW PCM data. -b X Set output sample format. Valid values for X are: 1: 16 bit PCM data (default). 2: 24 bit PCM data. 3: 32 bit PCM data. 4: 32 bit floating point data. 5: 64 bit floating point data. -s X Force the samplerate to X (for RAW files). -l X Set object type. Supported object types: 1: Main object type. 2: LC (Low Complexity) object type. 4: LTP (Long Term Prediction) object type. 23: LD (Low Delay) object type. -dDown matrix 5.1 to 2 channels -wWrite output to stdio instead of a file. -gDisable gapless decoding. -qQuiet - suppresses status messages. Example: /opt/ssods4/bin/faad infile.aac /opt/ssods4/bin/faad infile.mp4 /opt/ssods4/bin/faad -o outfile.wav infile.aac /opt/ssods4/bin/faad -w infile.aac outfile.wav /opt/ssods4/bin/faad -a outfile.aac infile.aac [~] # -- MunichMelly System Info Squeezebox Duet (receiver firmware 65) QNAP 209 pro II SSOTS: 4.1-7.4.0 Squeezebox Server Version: 7.4.1 - r28947 @ Tue Oct 20 08:02:44 PDT 2009 Operating system: Linux - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: armv5tejl-linux Perl Version: 5.10.0 - armv5tejl-linux-thread-multi MySQL Version: 5.0.27 BBC iPlayer (v0.9f) BBC iPlayer Extras (v0.3) MunichMelly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33549 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
Faad has been built to use floating point - most NAS do not have FPU in their processor so it is emulated and this is a very processor intensive - Build: Oct 20 2009 Copyright 2002-2004: Ahead Software AG http://www.audiocoding.com Floating point version You should request flipflip to build fixed point version of faad. A few weeks ago Logitech changed to building faad with fixed point - it looks like flipflip hasn't noticed. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
MunichMelly;486543 Wrote: Sorry but I don't really know how to do this - any tips? I have a TS-119 meaning that I have only one QNAP HDD whereas you have two. But I have a USB external HDD and QNAP provide a choice under External Device External Storage Device whereby Disk Usage Setting can be specified as either Data Sharing or Q-RAID 1. If I set this to Q-RAID 1, my CPU hits 100% whenever I stream radio over the QNAP Squeezebox Server. But if I set this to Data Sharing, and then specify Schedule Backup under Backup External Drive, CPU is around 15% when streaming radio over QNAP Squeezebox Server. From what I can gather on the QNAP forum, this is a recognised quirk, and I have decided to sacrifice RAID for Squeezebox Server, but hope that at some point QNAP will address the incompatibility. -- majones majones's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
MunichMelly;486575 Wrote: Do you know if it is possible to reconfigure from a RAID 1 setup to 2 single disks without losing data and/or network shares and/or reinstalling SSOTS / Squeezebox Server? I don't have a 2-disk QNAP, but assume that yours is configured with the 1st and 2nd disks configured under RAID such that if one fails you simply remove and replace it, and you carry on unaffected. If you switch-off RAID, you should still have 100% integrity of one disk with all your data, etc, but you will have to specify what you want the second disk to do, meaning scheduled backups . If you subsequently decide to switch back to RAID, the second disk becomes invisible and QNAP automatically handles the process. So, give it a go! -- majones majones's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
Find the SBS server\Bin directory - it should have executables such as flac and sox in a subdirectory. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
bpa;486919 Wrote: Find the SBS server\Bin directory - it should have executables such as flac and sox in a subdirectory. Still no joy. In the Squeezeboxserver\Bin directory I can't find faad. I can find it in the SSOTS directory but I don't know how to execute it. Output is below - maybe you have some more ideas. [/share/MD0_DATA/.qpkg/SSOTS/var/home/SqueezeboxServer] # ls Bin/ Changelog6.html License.fr.txt SQL/ scanner.pl* CPAN/ Changelog7.html License.he.txt SSODS_AUTOSTART slimserver.pl* Cache/Firmware/ License.it.txt SSODS_NOUPNP slimservice-convert.conf Changelog.htmlGraphics/ License.nl.txt Slim/ slimservice-strings.txt Changelog1.html HTML/ License.txt cleanup.pl* slimservice.pl* Changelog2.html IR/ Logs/ convert.conf strings.txt Changelog3.html Installation.txt MySQL/ lib/ types.conf Changelog4.html License.de.txtPlugins/ modules.conf Changelog5.html License.es.txtPrefs/ revision.txt [/share/MD0_DATA/.qpkg/SSOTS/var/home/SqueezeboxServer] # cd Bin [/share/MD0_DATA/.qpkg/SSOTS/var/home/SqueezeboxServer/Bin] # ls [/share/MD0_DATA/.qpkg/SSOTS/var/home/SqueezeboxServer/Bin] # faad -sh: faad: command not found [/share/MD0_DATA/.qpkg/SSOTS/var/home/SqueezeboxServer/Bin] # cd / [/] # find -name faad ./mnt/HDA_ROOT/rootfs_2_3_6/share/MD0_DATA/.qpkg/SSOTS/bin/faad ./share/MD0_DATA/.qpkg/SSOTS/bin/faad [/] # cd /share/MD0_DATA/.qpkg/SSOTS/bin [/share/MD0_DATA/.qpkg/SSOTS/bin] # faad -sh: faad: command not found [/share/MD0_DATA/.qpkg/SSOTS/bin] # ls alac* date* id* madplay* oggenc* rmdir*tar* awk@ df* id3convert* metaflac* ogginfo* sed* top* bash* du* id3cp*mkdir* openssl* shorten* touch* bunzip2* enable-telnet.sh* id3info* mp3gain* pcregrep* sleep*uname* bzip2*faad* id3tag* mpc123* pcretest* snice*vorbiscomment* cat* flac* id3v2*mv* perl* sort* w* chmod*free* kill* mysql* pgrep*sox* watch* chown*gawk* lame* mysqld@ printenv* sqlite3* watch_swap.sh* cp* grep* ln* nice* ps* ssctrl* wavpack* curl* gunzip* locale* ogg123* readlink* sudo* wvgain* cut* gzip* ls* oggdec* rm* tail* wvunpack* [/share/MD0_DATA/.qpkg/SSOTS/bin] # faad* -sh: faad: command not found [/share/MD0_DATA/.qpkg/SSOTS/bin] # exec faad -sh: exec: faad: not found [/share/MD0_DATA/.qpkg/SSOTS/bin] # exec faad* -sh: exec: faad: not found [/share/MD0_DATA/.qpkg/SSOTS/bin] # -- MunichMelly System Info Squeezebox Duet (receiver firmware 65) QNAP 209 pro II SSOTS: 4.1-7.4.0 Squeezebox Server Version: 7.4.1 - r28947 @ Tue Oct 20 08:02:44 PDT 2009 Operating system: Linux - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: armv5tejl-linux Perl Version: 5.10.0 - armv5tejl-linux-thread-multi MySQL Version: 5.0.27 BBC iPlayer (v0.9f) BBC iPlayer Extras (v0.3) MunichMelly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33549 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
It's possible SSOTS has set up AAC decoding to use something else. Confirm by looking at WebUI/Settings/Advanced/Filetypes/AAC -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
bpa;486939 Wrote: It's possible SSOTS has set up AAC decoding to use something else. Confirm by looking at WebUI/Settings/Advanced/Filetypes/AAC Settings there are as follows: AAC AAC Native AAC FLAC faad/flac AAC MP3 faad/lame AAC PCM faad Is there any logging I can do to confirm what's happening? By the way, if I use the Logitech BBC app (under MyApps) then I can listen to live BBC streams without problems (but obviously it does not support Listen again). Do these use a different format? -- MunichMelly System Info Squeezebox Duet (receiver firmware 65) QNAP 209 pro II SSOTS: 4.1-7.4.0 Squeezebox Server Version: 7.4.1 - r28947 @ Tue Oct 20 08:02:44 PDT 2009 Operating system: Linux - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: armv5tejl-linux Perl Version: 5.10.0 - armv5tejl-linux-thread-multi MySQL Version: 5.0.27 BBC iPlayer (v0.9f) BBC iPlayer Extras (v0.3) MunichMelly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33549 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
It's definitely using faad - you just have to find it. Enable logging with os.paths set to DEBUG and also set player.source to DEBUG and then try to play an AAC file or stream. Check the log for faad - there should be one line where a full command line with path to faad is shown. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
bpa;486191 Wrote: can you run the faad program on a command line with no arguments. It will display a banner and check if it the fixed point version. Sorry but I don't really know how to do this - any tips? -- MunichMelly System Info Squeezebox Duet (receiver firmware 65) QNAP 209 pro II SSOTS: 4.1-7.4.0 Squeezebox Server Version: 7.4.1 - r28947 @ Tue Oct 20 08:02:44 PDT 2009 Operating system: Linux - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: armv5tejl-linux Perl Version: 5.10.0 - armv5tejl-linux-thread-multi MySQL Version: 5.0.27 BBC iPlayer (v0.9f) BBC iPlayer Extras (v0.3) MunichMelly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33549 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
majones;486283 Wrote: I found with my TS-119 that the CPU load became excessive when using the RAID configuration, because the software interpreted Squeezebox streaming over the internet as a trigger for disk duplication. My solution has been to run a planned backup overnight rather than RAID. Worth a try? Do you know if it is possible to reconfigure from a RAID 1 setup to 2 single disks without losing data and/or network shares and/or reinstalling SSOTS / Squeezebox Server? (if so, how?) Do you know if it's then possible to change back to a RAID 1 setup if it turns out this change doesn't help? I couldn't find anything about changing the configuration in the QNAP documentation, only setting it up in the first place. -- MunichMelly System Info Squeezebox Duet (receiver firmware 65) QNAP 209 pro II SSOTS: 4.1-7.4.0 Squeezebox Server Version: 7.4.1 - r28947 @ Tue Oct 20 08:02:44 PDT 2009 Operating system: Linux - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: armv5tejl-linux Perl Version: 5.10.0 - armv5tejl-linux-thread-multi MySQL Version: 5.0.27 BBC iPlayer (v0.9f) BBC iPlayer Extras (v0.3) MunichMelly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33549 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
MunichMelly;486543 Wrote: Sorry but I don't really know how to do this - any tips? I don't know about QNAP but for a linux system the normal approach would be first get a shell prompt and this is usually achived by using SSH from another PC or less secure would be telnet. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
It's good to see lots of people are now successfully running iplayer on their QNAPs thanks to the contributions in this thread. Having done a clean install of SSOTS and Squeezebox Server, and applying the iplayer filechange provided in this thread, I am also able to start both live and listen-again streams on my QNAP. Unfortunately I am having problems with very frequent rebuffering (several times a minute, i.e. not useable) with pretty much every program (both live and listen-again). I am not in the UK. The QNAP is connected to the squeezebox duet receiver via cable so I don't think its a local network problem. As a comparison, if I run Squeezebox Server on my laptop (via a 802.11n wireless router) instead of on the QNAP then there are no problems - so the problem seems to be specific to the QNAP setup. Have other QNAP users had similar problems (and how did you solve them)? If other non-UK QNAP users are using iplayer without rebuffering problems, did you change anything from the standard setup to achieve this? Are there any settings which I can change to help this? Hope someone can help -- MunichMelly System Info Squeezebox Duet (receiver firmware 65) QNAP 209 pro II SSOTS: 4.1-7.4.0 Squeezebox Server Version: 7.4.1 - r28947 @ Tue Oct 20 08:02:44 PDT 2009 Operating system: Linux - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: armv5tejl-linux Perl Version: 5.10.0 - armv5tejl-linux-thread-multi MySQL Version: 5.0.27 BBC iPlayer (v0.9f) BBC iPlayer Extras (v0.3) MunichMelly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33549 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
It's possible the UK users of QNAP have disabled AAC and so QNAP does no transcoding (i.e. no processor load) whereas your QNAP must transcode the AAC stream and this would have a significant processor load. Have you disabled AAC-MP3 and AAC-Flac. This will ease processor load but increase network load. This transcoding problem may go away next year (or possibly sooner) when BBC start providing Listen Again in WMA (replacing RealAudio) as well as AAC for non UK listeners. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
bpa;486141 Wrote: ... your QNAP must transcode the AAC stream and this would have a significant processor load. Have you disabled AAC-MP3 and AAC-Flac. This will ease processor load but increase network load. I haven't (knowingly) disabled anything. How can I check this, and how can I try this? -- MunichMelly System Info Squeezebox Duet (receiver firmware 65) QNAP 209 pro II SSOTS: 4.1-7.4.0 Squeezebox Server Version: 7.4.1 - r28947 @ Tue Oct 20 08:02:44 PDT 2009 Operating system: Linux - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: armv5tejl-linux Perl Version: 5.10.0 - armv5tejl-linux-thread-multi MySQL Version: 5.0.27 BBC iPlayer (v0.9f) BBC iPlayer Extras (v0.3) MunichMelly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33549 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
bpa;486158 Wrote: WebUI Settings/Filetypes set AAC - MP3 to disabled Set AAC-Flac to disabled Click Apply Thanks - I tried this but it didn't appear to make any difference. That left AAC-AAC as native and AAC-PCM as faad. As it didn't work, for now I've put it back to AAC-MP3 faad/lame and AAC-Flac faad/flac Any other ideas? Are there any logs I can switch on to look at this in more detail? -- MunichMelly System Info Squeezebox Duet (receiver firmware 65) QNAP 209 pro II SSOTS: 4.1-7.4.0 Squeezebox Server Version: 7.4.1 - r28947 @ Tue Oct 20 08:02:44 PDT 2009 Operating system: Linux - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: armv5tejl-linux Perl Version: 5.10.0 - armv5tejl-linux-thread-multi MySQL Version: 5.0.27 BBC iPlayer (v0.9f) BBC iPlayer Extras (v0.3) MunichMelly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33549 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
Check CPU load of the QNAP - if it is high 70% or more then then transcoding is likely the cause of the problem. I don't know what tools are available on QNAP to show cpu load but top is the usual linux tool -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
bpa;486179 Wrote: Check CPU load of the QNAP - if it is high 70% or more then then transcoding is likely the cause of the problem. I don't know what tools are available on QNAP to show cpu load but top is the usual linux tool QNAP supply a web admin tool, which has a system information screen. When playing an iplayer stream cpu load is indicated to be around 100% confirming your thoughts, compared with playing a local mp3 file showing a load between 5% and 25%. Is there any way to avoid the transcoding, or do I have to wait for the BBC to start supporting other stream formats? -- MunichMelly System Info Squeezebox Duet (receiver firmware 65) QNAP 209 pro II SSOTS: 4.1-7.4.0 Squeezebox Server Version: 7.4.1 - r28947 @ Tue Oct 20 08:02:44 PDT 2009 Operating system: Linux - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: armv5tejl-linux Perl Version: 5.10.0 - armv5tejl-linux-thread-multi MySQL Version: 5.0.27 BBC iPlayer (v0.9f) BBC iPlayer Extras (v0.3) MunichMelly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33549 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
can you run the faad program on a command line with no arguments. It will display a banner and check if it the fixed point version. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
MunichMelly;486185 Wrote: When playing an iplayer stream cpu load is indicated to be around 100% confirming your thoughts, compared with playing a local mp3 file showing a load between 5% and 25%. I found with my TS-119 that the CPU became excessive when using the RAID configuration, because the software interpreted Squeezebox sreaming over the internet as a trigger for disk duplication. My solution has been to run a planne bacup overnight rather than RAID. Worth a try? -- majones majones's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
Fixed for me as well - Thanks -- alexandali Regards Alex QNAP TS-209 ProII SSOTS Release 4.1-7.4.0 (31st Oct 09) SqueezeServer Version: 7.4.1 - r28947 (31st Oct 09) Wi-Fi connection via Netgear GS108T/Thompson TG585V7/NetgearWG602 Squeezebox Duet - optical feed to Audiolab 8000DAC/Pre/Power Squeezebox Boom Softsqueeze 3.8 alexandali's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18872 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
It's Alive! Replaced existing RTMP.pm with new one, above. Re-started QNAP. Sorted. Thankyou Triode and BPA, your work is much appreciated in this house. For the semi-techie, solution can be implemented from a Windows PC without the use of command lines or any Linux experience: 1 Download RTMP.pm to your desktop 2 Browse to the admin page for your QNAP and Create a Network Share which points to the folder named \SqueezeCenter (just select from list) 3 Use windows to find the existing RTMP.pm ... it's in \Cache\InstalledPlugins\Plugins\BBCiPlayer on the newly shared drive 4 Re-name existing RTMP.pm to .bak or something (belt and braces) 5 Move new RTMP.pm downloaded in step 1 to folder (drag and drop) 6 Using QNAP admin page, remove the Network Share from 2 (just to tidy up) 7 Re-start your QNAP QNAP: TS-109 II SSOTS: 3.15 SqueezeCenter: 7.3.1 - 24372 iPlayer: 0.9f -- Rand0mRay Rand0mRay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7109 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
This has fixed mine as well. Fantastic support and thanks so much for your hard work to find a resolution. -- Boydieuk Boydieuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34070 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
bpa;483567 Wrote: The log file seemed to have no logging enabled. It would be great to get an full log just to make sure that all the variables have reasonable values now. Sorry, bpa, in my excitement I sent the wrong part of the server log. Does the attached look OK? QNAP have advised on their forum that they will now get SSOTS modified, so again many thanks to you and Triode for your most helpful and expert engagement. Pending QNAP's fix, is there any downside in using the new RTMP.pm file? Thanks for the suggestion to use MP3, but my impression is that the pause/start response time is similar to AAC. I recall elsewhere that you said that a programme may need to run for 10s before time-shifting works properly, and I think this is what I'm experiencing on the QNAP. +---+ |Filename: server[4].zip| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8690| +---+ -- majones majones's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
The log looks fine - no crazy floating point numbers anywhere. QNAP have advised on their forum that they will now get SSOTS modified, so again many thanks to you and Triode for your most helpful and expert engagement. Pending QNAP's fix, is there any downside in using the new RTMP.pm file? There is no downside - it's just a mod to handle a quirk of the QNAPO Linux port. Any idea what QNAP mean that they will get SSOTS modified - is BBCiPlayer included in SSOTS ? For UK listeners - there is a choice for Listen Again (both Flash as transport) - AAC or MP3. AAC needs to be transcoded for SB3, Boom, Transporters and in standard SBS this is done by faad. For pre 7.3.2 - transcoding could also be done by mplayer and this will have a delay at startup. You can check by loking at what is the WebUI Settings/Filetypes/AAC setting. If you are in the UK and you disable AAC in the BBCiPlayer settings - BBCiPlayer should send an MP3 stream direct to player - no transcoding (i.e.no load on QNAP) and no delay. Any previous remark I made about 10 secs delay were probably in the context of mplayer for AlienBBC and playing RealAudio. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
bpa;483668 Wrote: Is BBCiPlayer included in SSOTS?No, it isn't. SSOTS is QNAP's implementation of SSODS, modified for compatibility with QNAP's turbostations. When SSOTS is running on the QNAP, it handles the installation of the Perl Source Code version of SBS. And when SBS is running, it handles the installation of the BBCiPlayer plug-in. So I'm not sure how exactly QNAP are going about the fix at their end. Thanks for the clarification on AAC and MP3. My QNAP seems to be handling AAC without difficulty, which is encouraging. Also, thanks for clarifying that the time-shifting lag, if an issue, related to the mplayer implementation incorporated in AlienBBC. -- majones majones's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
'been following this thread with interestmany thanks to Triode and BPA for their efforts in getting our BBCiPlayer working again!!. cheers chaps:) dennis -- dennis55 Slim Devices/Logitech Transporter Bonnec Audiosysteme Timpano Linn Products Akurate C4200 Totem Acoustics Forest SqueezeBox Radio Duet Controller Linn LP12/Cirkus/Ekos2/Dynavector DV17D2/Linn Linto/Linn Lingo1 last.fm/dennis55 dennis55's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8884 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
Good to hear this fixes it. Can you post a link to where you are disucssing it on the QNAPs forums. If they can't fix quickly it would be possible to include the fix into the main iPlayer plugin with some code to use it when installed on a problem system. So really looking for any views on how fast they will fix it and whether this will be useful. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
Triode;483837 Wrote: Can you post a link to where you are disucssing it on the QNAPs forums. If they can't fix quickly it would be possible to include the fix into the main iPlayer plugin with some code to use it when installed on a problem system. Here's the link http://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?f=123t=20869start=20. No matter how fast QNAP implement a fix, it won't be fast enough for most iPlayer listeners using QNAP, and I for one would be most grateful if you could take us under your wing and include a fix into the main iPlayer plugin. -- majones majones's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
Please try the attached - it should automatically detect the problem architecture and use the new code, but otherwise work as before. Assuming this works for you on the qnaps and people also try it on a pc then I'll include it in the next version of the plugin. +---+ |Filename: RTMP.pm | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8691| +---+ -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
Triode - your and bpa's engagement is exemplary. I'll check-out the .pm from the qnap user's standpoint tomorrow. Many thanks. -- majones majones's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
Perfect. For other readers of the thread - QNAP is behaving as a mixed endian system unlike other little endian ARM systems such as Radio/Touch and a big-endian Freecom FSG3 NAS which I have. The output of a code pasted below is as follows on different ARM systems Touch: ENDIAN:LITTLE Test of unpack: 0ff3 Swap flag:0 QNAP: ENDIAN:LITTLE Test of unpack: 0ff3 Swap flag:1 FSG3: ENDIAN:BIG Test of unpack: f30f Swap flag:0 The problem is a word swap which is peculiar to ARM architecture and some ports of Linux and/or the compiler.. I believe this has confirmed the problem - now the fix needs to be written.. Code: use constant ENDIAN = unpack('S', pack('C2', 0, 1)) == 1 ? 'BIG' : 'LITTLE'; my $swapDoubles; my $double = pack (d,1); my $hex = unpack(h*,$double); if ( $hex eq 0ff3){ $swapDoubles=1; } else { $swapDoubles=0; } print ENDIAN: . ENDIAN. Test of unpack: $hex Swap flag:$swapDoubles\n; I copied the code from this CPAN module http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/EXIFTOOL/Image-ExifTool-7.89/lib/Image/ExifTool.pm - look for swapWord anbd SwapWords in the file. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
So Bryan - my understanding of this is that we treat as little endian, but swap the first and second 32 bits in the binary representation of the double? In which case - could someone try the attached. (Note this assumes the architecture discussed so is bound not to work on anything else.) +---+ |Filename: RTMP.pm | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8688| +---+ -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
Correct about swappign 1st and 2nd word when 32 bit number however I think your version of RTMP.pm won't work for 2 reasons. (i) encode_number is called with various size numbers such as 1,4 and 8 bytes so the swapDouble should only be done when length is 8. (ii) when decoding swapDoubles should be done after swapbytes so decode_number should be return unpack('d', swapDoubles(swap( $_[0]) ) ); I'm not 100% sure but just looking at the exiftool.pm code as a template. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
bpa;483515 Wrote: (i) encode_number is called with various size numbers such as 1,4 and 8 bytes so the swapDouble should only be done when length is 8. Isn't it called with any perl number but always returns an 8 byte string as its always returning the result of pack 'd'? (ii) when decoding swapDoubles should be done after swapbytes so decode_number should be return unpack('d', swapDoubles(swap( $_[0]) ) ); Not sure I understand how it becomes reversable if this is the case - should we not be able to encode and decode a number and get back to the original..? Anyway I'm possibly not thinking straight so happy to be proved wrong. Perhaps someone can try it and let me how wrong it is! -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
If a QNAP user could test Triode's it would provide real results. I was slow in posting my version of RTMP.pm because I have been trying to convince myself what code is needed to do the byte and word swapping. 1. My worry about the order of SwapDouble and swap - you're right it makes no difference. 2. The encode_number - I'm not sure - I found it odd that it is used with different size numbers. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
Triode;483508 Wrote: In which case - could someone try the attached. (Note this assumes the architecture discussed so is bound not to work on anything else.) Congratulations - it worked! Start and stop are a bit sluggish, but that may simply be because of other demands on my system - might the attached server log provide insight? +---+ |Filename: server[1].zip| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8689| +---+ -- majones majones's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
That's good and it is really the QNAP this time !! Are you playing Flash/AAC or Flash/MP3 ? With AAC there may be a transcoding load on the server whereas for MP3 there is no transcoding. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
I have done some testing on little endian and big endian ARM systems and couldn't reproduce the QNAP issue. I have attached a RTMP.pm file which does not change any of the original 0.9f code but it has a new log message just to definitive test whether QNAP is behaving as a mixed endian system as follows Code: [09-11-08 09:02:50.7050] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::RTMP::new (103) ENDIAN:LITTLE Test of unpack: 0ff3 Swap flag:0 Can you please replace RTMP.pm and play a test BBC program as before. +---+ |Filename: RTMP.pm | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8671| +---+ -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
bpa;482988 Wrote: I have attached a RTMP.pm file which does not change any of the original 0.9f code but it has a new log message just to definitive test whether QNAP is behaving as a mixed endian system as follows Code: [09-11-08 09:02:50.7050] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::RTMP::new (103) ENDIAN:LITTLE Test of unpack: 0ff3 Swap flag:0 Can you please replace RTMP.pm and play a test BBC program as before. Not really sure if I've done exactly as you wanted, and I may have a different setup and/or problem, but I tried to replace RTMP.pm on my QNAP as you requested and tried to play something on BBC7. Logfile is attached, but I'm not sure it got far enough to get to your new debug line on my system? Let me know if this was of any help. +---+ |Filename: server[1].log| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8680| +---+ -- MunichMelly System Info Squeezebox Duet (receiver firmware 62) Squeezecenter v7.3.3 on QNAP 209 pro (SSOTS v3.15) or Vista laptop BBC iPlayer (v0.9f) - laptop o.k., but most streams don't play on QNAP BBC iPlayer Extras (v0.3) MunichMelly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33549 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
Something has happened to your setup - the faad application can't be found so AAC is not supported. Code: [09-11-09 00:28:35.3206] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (260) couldn't find binary for: faad However I thought the code I added would have been run. I think perhaps the program you chose has not been added to Listen Again. If you disable BBCiPlayer AAC setting and try a different program - it may still give the info I need. The log message should give info whether the endian is a possible cause of the problem or definitely not the cause. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
bpa;483254 Wrote: Something has happened to your setup - the faad application can't be found so AAC is not supported. However I thought the code I added would have been run. I think perhaps the program you chose has not been added to Listen Again. If you disable BBCiPlayer AAC setting and try a different program - it may still give the info I need. The log message should give info whether the endian is a possible cause of the problem or definitely not the cause. AAC was already disabled in the iPlayer setting. My main problem is that I can't play any listen again programmes. I tried a few anyway, and also some live streams, and also tried enabling AAC in the iPlayer settings, but I don't think it made any difference and I still didn't see the debug you were looking for. Logfile attached anyway just in case. By the way, I thought faad was supposed to be included in SC 7.3.3 ? +---+ |Filename: server[1].log| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8681| +---+ -- MunichMelly System Info Squeezebox Duet (receiver firmware 62) Squeezecenter v7.3.3 on QNAP 209 pro (SSOTS v3.15) or Vista laptop BBC iPlayer (v0.9f) - laptop o.k., but most streams don't play on QNAP BBC iPlayer Extras (v0.3) MunichMelly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33549 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
majones;482551 Wrote: That seems to have worked! I need to head off now, put will post the server file tomorrow moring. Many thanks to both you and bpa. Hopefully this is a permanent fix? CORRECTION - it didn't work. I was looking at the Windows implementation of SBS, not the QNAP one. Apologies for that. Here is the QNAP server log - any further thoughts, Triode? +---+ |Filename: server[1].zip| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8664| +---+ -- majones majones's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
majones;482649 Wrote: CORRECTION - it didn't work. Thats a pitty.. The debug does prove though that there is a problem with perl's encoding/decoding of numbers in this version of SSODS. There's a chance the attched may work if its only the decoding which is causing a problem. Please try and report back. (It assumes the response for the one number which is returned from the far end and needs to be sent back again hence removes the relience on decoding numbers. However it needs the encoding to be working correctly.) Is there a way of raising a bug against SSODS so the author can look at this too? (Its a little difficult to debug without having any access to the device or knowledge of the perl install.) +---+ |Filename: RTMP.pm | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8665| +---+ -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
There is an issue with ARM processor where they are mixed/cross endian for double - so I suspect there is something related since floating point nos are appearing. I'll try to find something more definitive. WARNING: On ARM processors, double variables have a different format from IEEE double on most other processors. The bit pattern used by the ARM hardware and software floating point implementations follows the IEEE standard; however, the byte order is different from standard practice leading to a cross-endian implementation. Be careful when sharing double values in memory between ARM and other processors. On ARM, while each word of a double is stored little-endian, the most significant word (the word containing the sign bit) is at the lower address. This is neither pure big-endian (as implemented in 68k processors) nor pure little-endian (as implemented in x86 processors). Cygnus added a new binary floating point format, littlebyte_bigword, to GNU libiberty and changed GDB to use this format for ARM; this implementation is adopted for WRS ARM BSPs and for CrossWind. This format is chosen to be consistent with the ARM hardware floating point implementation, the ARM7500FE FPA Coprocessor Macrocell. However, since most IEEE floating point implementations are pure big- or little-endian, shared memory exchange of double variables is complicated by the unique cross-endianness of ARM double variables. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
Triode;482671 Wrote: Thats a pitty.. The debug does prove though that there is a problem with perl's encoding/decoding of numbers in this version of SSODS. Is there a way of raising a bug against SSODS so the author can look at this too? (Its a little difficult to debug without having any access to the device or knowledge of the perl install.) Still no success I'm afraid - see server file attached. The version of SSODS being used on the QNAP is an adaptation made by QNAP themselves (called SSOTS), and I will flag your findings on the QNAP forum (which is QNAP's preferred channel for dealing with problems). What exectly should I say? Thanks again to both bpa and Triode for your engagement and support. +---+ |Filename: server[1].zip| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8666| +---+ -- majones majones's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
OK - please refer them to this thread and say that the version of perl included in SSODS appears to have a problem with packing and unpacking numbers using perl pack commands in format 'd'. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
I've comes across this patch to handle unpack d on an ARM platform. It was part of a Tiff library for Perl. Instead of getting a value 1 returned the value 5.29980882362664e-315 was returned. The patch is old from 2005 which makes me think some compiler update may have removed it. It is worth nothing that 0x0ff3 is 5.29980882362664e-315 on some endian configurations. Code: my $double = pack (d,1); my $hex = unpack(h*,$double); if ( $hex eq 0ff3 ){ $swapDoubles=1; } else { $swapDoubles=0; } . . . sub DoUnpackD(@) { my ($bytes, $template, $dataPt, $pos) = @_; my $val=''; if ($swapBytes) { $val = ''; $val .= substr($$dataPt,$pos+$bytes,1) while $bytes--; } else { $val = substr($$dataPt,$pos,$bytes); } if ($swapDoubles) { my $bot = substr($val,0,4); my $top = substr($val,4,4); $val=$top.$bot; } defined($val) or return undef; return unpack($template,$val); } -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
OK. I think I found a bug so attached is a modified version of RTMP.pm file. Can you use to replace the file of same name on your system in the BBCiPlayer plugin directory. Then restart SBS and test as before with a log so that if it still fails, it will be possible to see if the change made a difference. +---+ |Filename: RTMP.pm | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8643| +---+ -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
bpa, Here's the log you requested with AAC enabled under the iPlayer settings. Thanks for your help. +---+ |Filename: SBS Log 2.zip| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8621| +---+ -- majones majones's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
It doesn't go on endlessly - how it starts and ends are important. Can you copy the log message into a text file from the time you press play (note the time whn you do it ) until about 1 minute later. Don't edit the messages logged. Attach the text file to a post - if necessary zip the text file first. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
OK, bpa. I think I've captured all the info that you requested. Let me know if you want more. +---+ |Filename: SBS Log.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8610| +---+ -- majones majones's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
Everything looks fine - it's just no audio packets are received by SBS. Is there a firewall or some sort of security on the QNAP ? -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
I'm no expert, but I can't see any QNAP settings that would prevent audio packets being received. The iPlayer live broadcasts work fine, as did the Listen Again broadcasts with the prior version of SSOTS (3.8) and SBS (7.3). I've just noticed that Listen Again actually does work for the BBC World Service. Any thoughts as to why this might be? -- majones majones's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
You need to check the URLs of the stream carefully and the format that is displayed on the WebUI - so that there is an accurate description which protocols and format have the problem. rtmp - Flash/AAC or Flash/MP3 http - can be MP3 or WMA mms - WMA Can you now clarify 1. Are the Live broadcasts using http or mms ? and is the format WMA or something else ? 2. What format is World service WMA or other ? 3. WHat were you using to play Listen Again on SSOTS 3.8 - AlienBBC or BBCiPlayer and if BBCiPlayer what version ? -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
The BBC streams that don't work are rtmp-Flash/AAC (= most Listen Again streams). The BBC streams that do work are http-WMA (= live streams and World Service Listen Again). I can't recall coming across any other combinations, but half-remember trying rtmp-Flash/MP3 and it not working. Previously, all the BBC Listen Again streams worked fine with SSOTS 3.8, SBS 7.3.3 and BBCiPlayer (not sure exactly which version; 0.6?). -- majones majones's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
I think v0.6 of BBCiPlayer did not use Flash/AAC for Listen Again so it looks like the problem is Flash/AAC and possibly something about the QNAP environment. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
Many thanks for your thorough efforts to help pin-down the problem, bpa. It does seem to be a QNAP/SSOTS compatibility problem with Flash/AAC, so I'll switch to the QNAP forum to try and get some traction there. Meanwhile, I'm using one of my PC's to run SBS 7.4.1 and BBCiPlayer 0.9 and all is well, but I had intended to use my QNAP as a hub for internet radio so am somewhat disappointed. -- majones majones's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
Following this with interest - looks to be a QNAP/SSOTS problem.. -- alexandali Regards Alex QNAP TS-209 ProII SSOTS Release 4.1-7.4.0 (31st Oct 09) SqueezeServer Version: 7.4.1 - r28947 (31st Oct 09) Wi-Fi connection via Netgear GS108T/Thompson TG585V7/NetgearWG602 Squeezebox Duet - optical feed to Audiolab 8000DAC/Pre/Power Squeezebox Boom Softsqueeze 3.8 alexandali's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18872 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
I'm also experiencing exactly the same problem as described by majones with my QNAP TS-119. So I'm also following with great interest, and thanks for your focus on the problem. All worked great with BBC iplayer live and listen again at SSOTS 1.8 and Squeezecenter 7.3.3. Now with any version of Squeezebox Server 7.4 on SSOTS 4.1-7.4.0 the listen again streams (except World Service) seem to play without sound. I haven't the technical know how to play around with things so I've left as is for fear of breaking it further (however I have followed the same instructions on changing file types in BBC iPlayer and File Types settings). But if I can help by sanity checking my SBS, TS-119 or SSOTS config against majones please let me know and I'll try my best. -- Boydieuk Boydieuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34070 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
majones, Can you repeat your last log except this time enable AAC in BBCiPlayer settings. The log you attached showed trying to play a Flash/MP3 stream which I cannot use for comparison. However after looking at the log there is one message which stands out. Scroll text to see end of message. Code: 09-11-03 12:38:13.5059] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::RTMP::sendRTMPPacket (261) sending rtmp: chunkChan: 8 type: 20 streamId: 5.29980882362664e-315 The streamid value is unusual - I expected a low integer so I suspect encode/decode error which may a portability issues as Flash code requires a lot of low level bit byte pack and unpacking in data structures. THis is the sort of code that can break across different system architectures. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
I have a QNAP TS-119 running Squeezebox Server 7.4.0 with SSOTS 4.1. iPlayer plays BBC live streams fine but not BBC Listen Again streams. The server log errors are as follows: 0019: [09-10-31 00:29:43.4063] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1165) Warning:[00:29:43.4000] 'apps/bbc/index.html' is not the same as '(?-xism:apps/bbc/index.html)' at /share/HDA_DATA/.qpkg/SSOTS/var/home/SqueezeboxServer/Slim/Web/Pages.pm line 131 0018: [09-10-31 00:29:43.3845] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1165) Warning: [00:29:43.3774] 'apps/radiofeeds/index.html' is not the same as '(?-xism:apps/radiofeeds/index.html)' at /share/HDA_DATA/.qpkg/SSOTS/var/home/SqueezeboxServer/Slim/Web/Pages.pm line 131 Any suggestions as to where the problem lies? -- majones majones's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
As a test of QNAP capability - can you play this stream http://www.somafm.com/illstreet48.pls If it doesn't play then workarounds may be needed. Are you in the UK ? It affects what workaround are feasible. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
the fast TS-119 processor. Speed is relative - 500MHz and no FPU is not fast when decoding and re-encoding. Do you have AAC-MP3 and AAC-Flac disabled ? Since you are in the UK - the AAC streams you get are 128k. Are there any error message in the log. There is a peculiar problem since Sunday with AAC streams in the UK - it looks like a BBC server issue. A workaround is to disable BBCiPlayer AAC - then you willplay the MP3 streams with no trasncoding. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
Thanks for the help, bpa. I see that you are one of the gurus of iPlayer/AlienBBC, so I am honoured to have your attention! I have disabled AACMP3 and AACFlac = no change. I have disabled iPlayer AAC = no change. The Squeezebox Server web page indicates that BBC Listen Again programmes are actually playing (ie played time and remaining time are shown), although there is no sound. I wonder whether the line 131 error is the key, but have no idea waht it relates to. I get no other error messages. Thanks again. -- majones majones's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer Won't Play BBC Listen Again on QNAP
I think the line 131 error is not significant as it emanates from the Radiofeeds App and the BBC App - neither of which are related to the BBCiPlayer plugin. The Apps are supplied as part of SBS by Logitech. The BBCiPlayer plugin is a 3rd party plugin and not an App. The BBCiPlayer problem is affecting many QNAP users who are using SSOTS so it is not clear where the problem is originating. Disabling AAC in BBCiPlayer settings should result in MP3 being sent directly to play and so avoid transcoding - yet nothing happens which is strange. Canb you do a log with the following enabled plugin.bbciplayer.parser DEBUG plugin.bbciplayer.rtmpDEBUG player.source INFO -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70812 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins