Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Using piCorePlayer with Audio Research USB3 DAC

2021-09-20 Thread E-Stat


chicks wrote: 
> I'd just replace it with an 'inexpensive Topping DAC'
> (https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/topping-e30-dac-review.12119/),
> which will blow it away.
A couple of acquaintances purchased D90s last year and were not
particularly impressed with the sound quality.  Neither lasted very long
before replacement.  

Op amps necessitating copious amounts of corrective feedback can exhibit
very low THD but I learned as a teen that metric fails to correlate
meaningful information about sound quality.  I prefer using -inherently-
linear circuits that require little to no *correction*.

I'm perfectly satisfied with the current combination.  The new RPi will
serve as backup to the one in the garage.  :)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Using piCorePlayer with Audio Research USB3 DAC

2021-09-19 Thread chicks

Well, if it performs anything like 'Audio Research's other gear'
(https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/audio-research-100-2-power-amplifier-review.10684/),
I'd just replace it with an 'inexpensive Topping DAC'
(https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/topping-e30-dac-review.12119/),
which will blow it away.



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monitors; LMS 8.2 on piCorePlayer/Pi 4;  Material Skin.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Using piCorePlayer with Audio Research USB3 DAC

2021-09-19 Thread E-Stat


Thanks for your input!

Greg Erskine wrote: 
> Start with a fresh pCP SD Card.
Check.  Burned new card with 8.0 without changing any options.  Previous
attempt was with an in-situ update from 7.0 to 8.0 with a few changes to
config.txt

Greg Erskine wrote: 
> Your USB DAC must be on powered on and plugged in before you boot pCP.
> Reboot.
Check.  Accessed Squeezelite menu and selected USB output.  Saved and
rebooted.

Greg Erskine wrote: 
> Try the USB2 ports. Reboot.
> 
> From [Main Page] in [Beta] mode > [Extras] > [Bootcodes]. Set "waitusb"
> to 5 or 10. Reboot.
Check.  Set waitusb value to 10.   Rebooted. 

Get same values in output.  None work.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Using piCorePlayer with Audio Research USB3 DAC

2021-09-19 Thread Greg Erskine


E-Stat wrote: 
> Others have suggested using a generic "hw:CARD=DAC,DEV=0"  string, but
> when I do that Squeezelite fails to run.

There is no such thing as a generic "hw:CARD=DAC,DEV=0". Some
manufacturers actually use "DAC" as the name of their sound card.

The "Output setting" *must* be one that is in the "Available output
devices (click to use):" list. These are the only sounds cards
recognised by pCP. If it is not in the list, reboot and check again.

Start with a fresh pCP SD Card.

Your USB DAC must be on powered on and plugged in before you boot pCP.
Reboot.

Try the USB2 ports. Reboot.

>From [Main Page] in [Beta] mode > [Extras] > [Bootcodes]. Set "waitusb"
to 5 or 10. Reboot.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Using piCorePlayer with Audio Research USB3 DAC

2021-09-19 Thread Man in a van


Code:

Yes.  And got the following options as found in post #4.   That would 
suggest that the DAC is being recognized to an extent. 



Actually, it shows the dac is not being recognised :(

Please check your pm

It's a bit of a rough and ready outline but you should be able to work
it through, if you choose to do so.

I'm guessing you are in the USA, as I'm in the UK I will be AFK until
tomorrow.

cheers

ronnie



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Using piCorePlayer with Audio Research USB3 DAC

2021-09-19 Thread E-Stat


Man in a van wrote: 
> Just to be clear, you have selected usb in squeezelite settings (and
> followed the instructions) ?
Yes.  And got the following options as found in post #4.   That would
suggest that the DAC is being recognized to an extent. 

Others have suggested using a generic "hw:CARD=DAC,DEV=0"  string, but
when I do that Squeezelite fails to run.   Choosing any of the displayed
options allows Squeezelite to run, but does not *activate* the DAC.  It
should illuminate one of the sample rate LEDs.

This was just an experiment to compare an RPi4 with the ultraRendu
currently in use.   How close in sound quality is it to the more
expensive model?

In the garage system system, I've used an RPi3 with an Allo DigiOne
board satisfactorily for a number of years. 

[image: http://home.cablelynx.com/~rhw/audio/rpi1218.jpg]

Perhaps I should just acknowledge the RPi4 is not compatible with the
DAC8 - even though other Linux based streamers work fine with it.  ARC
uses an Aurender for their testing.  No worries as it sure didn't cost
much!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Using piCorePlayer with Audio Research USB3 DAC

2021-09-19 Thread Man in a van


I'll pm instructions, as I have a drink waiting :)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Using piCorePlayer with Audio Research USB3 DAC

2021-09-19 Thread Man in a van


One needs this tool

https://www.raspberrypi.org/software/

to burn this image

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Using piCorePlayer with Audio Research USB3 DAC

2021-09-19 Thread Man in a van


E-Stat wrote: 
> Sorry, but I'm not understanding the objective.
> 
> How do you install RPi desktop on the RPi?   All I find is how to
> install it on a Mac/Win environment.
> 
> https://projects.raspberrypi.org/en/projects/install-raspberry-pi-desktop
> 
> Thanks for all your assistance.

The objective is to find out if the dac will work with Squeezelite on a
raspberry pi as intimated in post #16



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Using piCorePlayer with Audio Research USB3 DAC

2021-09-19 Thread Man in a van


Just to be clear, you have selected usb in squeezelite settings (and
followed the instructions) ?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Using piCorePlayer with Audio Research USB3 DAC

2021-09-19 Thread E-Stat


Man in a van wrote: 
> Well forget about pCP for a while and install raspberrypi desktop on the
> rpi.
Sorry, but I'm not understanding the objective.

How do you install RPi desktop on the RPi?   All I find is how to
install it on a Mac/Win environment.

https://projects.raspberrypi.org/en/projects/install-raspberry-pi-desktop

Thanks for all your assistance.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Using piCorePlayer with Audio Research USB3 DAC

2021-09-19 Thread Man in a van


just to explain a little

This is my lsmod

Code:


  tc@pCP:~$ lsmod
  Module  Size  Used by
  spidev 20480  0
  snd_soc_bcm2835_i2s16384  0
  snd_soc_core  229376  1 snd_soc_bcm2835_i2s
  snd_bcm283528672  0
  snd_usb_audio 241664  1
  snd_hwdep  16384  1 snd_usb_audio
  snd_usbmidi_lib32768  1 snd_usb_audio
  mc 45056  1 snd_usb_audio
  snd_compress   20480  1 snd_soc_core
  snd_rawmidi36864  1 snd_usbmidi_lib
  snd_seq_device 16384  1 snd_rawmidi
  snd_pcm_dmaengine  16384  1 snd_soc_core
  snd_pcm   114688  7 
snd_compress,snd_usb_audio,snd_pcm_dmaengine,snd_soc_bcm2835_i2s,snd_bcm2835,snd_soc_core
  snd_timer  36864  1 snd_pcm
  spi_bcm283520480  0
  snd77824  11 
snd_compress,snd_hwdep,snd_usb_audio,snd_timer,snd_rawmidi,snd_usbmidi_lib,snd_seq_device,snd_bcm2835,snd_soc_core,snd_pcm
  raspberrypi_hwmon  16384  0
  i2c_bcm283516384  0
  fixed  16384  0
  squashfs   40960  40
  zram   28672  1
  zsmalloc   28672  1 zram



There is no snd_usb_audio listed in your example.

So, assuming:

that beta mode is elected in pCP (from the bottom of the Main page)

the dac is powered on, the usb input selected and the rpi rebooted, 

then with no snd_usb_audio in your lsmod, it means that the dac is not
recognised.

By installing the raspberry pi Buster Desktop OS, if the dac is listed
then :

you can install squeezelite as a player

ask *paul- *if he can help by showing him the two lsmod files :)

ronnie



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Using piCorePlayer with Audio Research USB3 DAC

2021-09-19 Thread Man in a van


E-Stat wrote: 
> Hi Ronnie,
> 
> It's true the original version of the DAC8 required either Win or MacOS
> drivers.   I have subsequently updated to their current USB3 board which
> supports Linux and have run my ultraRendu successfully with it.   
> 
> What I'm trying to do is compare the ultraRendu with a new RPI4 via USB

Well forget about pCP for a while and install raspberrypi desktop on the
rpi.



Update and upgrade the software,  enable  VNC server and SSH on the rpi,
connect the dac, power the dac on and reboot the pi.

The dac should be shown as an output when you right click the rpi
desktop  volume control

the run lsmod again to compare with pCP.

Let me know if you need any help

ronnie



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Using piCorePlayer with Audio Research USB3 DAC

2021-09-19 Thread E-Stat


Man in a van wrote: 
> Have a read of this thread
> 
> https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/31251-sonore-microrendu-usb-to-audio-research-dac8/
> 
> maybe contact AR support
> 
> ronnie
Hi Ronnie,

It's true the original version of the DAC8 required either Win or MacOS
drivers.   I have subsequently updated to their current USB3 board which
supports Linux and have run my ultraRendu successfully with it.   

What I'm trying to do is compare the ultraRendu with a new RPI4 via USB



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Using piCorePlayer with Audio Research USB3 DAC

2021-09-19 Thread E-Stat


Man in a van wrote: 
> piCore
> 
> is the password :p
> 
> ronnie
Thanks, that worked!

ran "lsmod" and got the following values:

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Using piCorePlayer with Audio Research USB3 DAC

2021-09-19 Thread Man in a van


E-Stat wrote: 
> I appreciate the help but must be missing something.I entered:
> 
> ssh tc@{ip address)
> 
> "tc@{ip address}'s password"
> 
> Entered "pCP"
> 
> "Permission denied".

piCore

is the password :p

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Using piCorePlayer with Audio Research USB3 DAC

2021-09-19 Thread E-Stat


Jeff07971 wrote: 
> username is tc also 
> 
> Jeff

I appreciate the help but must be missing something.I entered:

ssh tc@{ip address)

"tc@{ip address}'s password"

Entered "pCP"

"Permission denied".



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Using piCorePlayer with Audio Research USB3 DAC

2021-09-19 Thread Jeff07971


kidstypike wrote: 
> Password is piCore for pCP. ??

username is tc also 

Jeff



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Using piCorePlayer with Audio Research USB3 DAC

2021-09-19 Thread kidstypike


E-Stat wrote: 
> That's where I started.  No help. 
> 
> I run MacOS and am having trouble logging into RPI4.   In terminal mode,
> I tried:
> 
> ssh pi@{ip address} and got password prompt.
> 
> entered "raspberry" and got "Permission denied"

Password is piCore for pCP. ??



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Using piCorePlayer with Audio Research USB3 DAC

2021-09-19 Thread E-Stat


Man in a van wrote: 
> As well as Paul's suggestion... 
That's where I started.  No help. 

I run MacOS and am having trouble logging into RPI4.   In terminal mode,
I tried:

ssh pi@{ip address} and got password prompt.

entered "raspberry" and got "Permission denied"



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Using piCorePlayer with Audio Research USB3 DAC

2021-09-19 Thread Man in a van


Not looking good

> The DAC 8's USB driver software provides your computer with special
> high-
> speed audio drivers not supplied by MS Windows or Mac OS. Audio
> Research's
> USB drivers are specially.designed to deliver low jitter 'bit-perfect'
> data transfer
> between the server/computer, and the DAC 8, at all sampl
> 

Have a read of this thread

https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/31251-sonore-microrendu-usb-to-audio-research-dac8/

maybe contact AR support

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Using piCorePlayer with Audio Research USB3 DAC

2021-09-19 Thread Man in a van


E-Stat wrote: 
> Well it took a little longer than I thought.  ;)
> 
> Ran the log and don't find anything that explicitly mentions Audio
> Research or DAC8.  
> 
> One detail is I recently performed an in situ update to pcP 8.0 thinking
> that might help and now get a different list of output options - none of
> which work as well.  When I try manually entering common values like 
> "hw:CARD=DAC, DEV=0" then Squeezelite won't start.  Oddly, the output
> options are seemingly headphone related.


Looks like the dac is not recognised

As well as Paul's suggestion, please  run 


Code:

lsmod



in a terminal

ronnie



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Using piCorePlayer with Audio Research USB3 DAC

2021-09-19 Thread Paul Webster


Check the output from dmesg (in pCP diagnostics ) to see if there are
any clues



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Using piCorePlayer with Audio Research USB3 DAC

2021-09-19 Thread E-Stat


E-Stat wrote: 
> Thanks for the reply.  I'll check that after work.
Well it took a little longer than I thought.  ;)

Ran the log and don't find anything that explicitly mentions Audio
Research or DAC8.  

One detail is I recently performed an in situ update to pcP 8.0 thinking
that might help and now get a different list of output options - none of
which work as well.  When I try manually entering common values like 
"hw:CARD=DAC, DEV=0" then Squeezelite won't start.  Oddly, the output
options are seemingly headphone related.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Using piCorePlayer with Audio Research USB3 DAC

2021-02-18 Thread E-Stat


Man in a van wrote: 
> is it listed here ?
Thanks for the reply.  I'll check that after work.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Using piCorePlayer with Audio Research USB3 DAC

2021-02-16 Thread Man in a van


is it listed here ?

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