Re: [pmwiki-users] Petko's E2100/US$2, 963 bid for WYSIWYG capability

2011-05-18 Thread DaveG



On 5/18/2011 8:38 AM, Al Louis Ripskis wrote:

Sent: May 17, 2011 9:57 PM; DaveG wrote:
I added a page Cookbook/WYSIWYG-donations, and included the pledges made
in this thread. For those who pledged, please check I have your
information correct.


Hey, Dave, I'm real glad to see that you set up our "Score Card," even 
reflecting the changes in the euro/USD exchange rates.
Are you going to be updating it regularly?
The page is there. Contributors can either edit the page direct, or as I 
see pledges via the list, I'll add them to the page.


If you mean will I be updating the USD/EU exchange rate -- probably not. 
Unless there is a real tectonic shift in rates the variation is too 
small to be concerned with.



 ~ ~ David

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Petko's E2100/US$2, 963 bid for WYSIWYG capability

2011-05-18 Thread Al Louis Ripskis
>Sent: May 17, 2011 9:57 PM; DaveG wrote:
>I added a page Cookbook/WYSIWYG-donations, and included the pledges made 
>in this thread. For those who pledged, please check I have your 
>information correct.

Hey, Dave, I'm real glad to see that you set up our "Score Card," even 
reflecting the changes in the euro/USD exchange rates.
Are you going to be updating it regularly?
Thanks,
Al 


-Original Message-
>From: DaveG 
>Sent: May 17, 2011 9:57 PM
>To: pmwiki-users 
>Subject: Re: [pmwiki-users] Petko's E2100/US$2,963 bid for WYSIWYG 
>capability
>
>I added a page Cookbook/WYSIWYG-donations, and included the pledges made 
>in this thread. For those who pledged, please check I have your 
>information correct.
>
>
>  ~ ~ Dave
>
>
>On 5/17/2011 9:10 PM, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
>> I'm willing to set up whatever accounts etc. are needed to
>> sure the funds all make it to the right places, whether that's
>> through pledgie, kickstarter, etc.  (I have plenty of paypal,
>> amazon associate, etc. accounts that I can use for this.)
>>
>> But I don't want to start setting things up until we have at
>> least 60% of the pledges needed to reach the goal.  So, until
>> then it might be worthwhile to just create a page on PmWiki.org
>> describing the campaign, the target, what will be delivered,
>> and how close we are to the final goal.  When the number reaches
>> around 60% of the total, I'll start making the official transfer
>> channels open.
>>
>> Pm
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 05:56:31PM -0400, DaveG wrote:
>>> Perhaps something like pledgie http://pledgie.com/site/faq (used
>>> within Github for project support) would be useful to track
>>> commitments to the goal.
>>>
>>> I'd set it up, but the recipient needs to enter a Paypal address to
>>> facilitate funds transfer.
>>>
>>>
>>>   ~ ~ Dave
>>>
>>> On 5/14/2011 5:25 PM, Al Louis Ripskis wrote:
> Petko Yotov<5...@5ko.fr>Sent: May 14, 2011 3:36 PM
> The cost of this work is estimated to be 2100 euros. My company doesn't
> collect VAT. A receipt or a number of receipts will be available.
 Guys,
 I'm relatively new to this list, so I have no idea how this type of 
 contract has been handled in the past.
 My first instinct would be to consult Pm on this. Also how would the 
 collection be handled?
 As to the cost, it of course would depend on how many of would contribute.
 Today the euro to $US dollar rate is 1 to 1.411. So 2100 euros translate 
 to $US2,963.10.
 So if a 100 of us contributed, it would be $29.63 each.
 If 50 then it would be $59.26.
 If thirty, then it would be $98.77, or round off to $100.
 Now could we have a show of hands--or in this case e-mails--as to how many 
 of you and how much you would be willing to contribute.
 I'll start of with $100, if necessary.
 Cheers,
 Al

> To: Al Louis Ripskis
> Cc: pmwiki-users
> Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [pmwiki-users] Follow-Up:Whither WYSIWYG? 
> Contract/Contribution
>
> On Saturday 14 May 2011 14:30:30 Al Louis Ripskis wrote:
>> Did my email slip through the cracks? Or is there some
>> other reason why you haven't responded?
>
> It is not easy to estimate this kind of work. Such a module can be done 
> fairly
> quickly (2-3 days) but without a good integration with PmWiki and with
> potential security holes, as a couple of users expressed their concerns.
>
> PmWiki has lots of features and different configurations. Such a module 
> has to
> work in many different environments, like different settings for 
> passwords,
> diffrent uploads directories, different servers, and different browsers.
> Additional modules need to be written - file picker (with thumbnails?),
> asynchronous uploader (upload a file while you edit a page), internal link
> picker (autocomplete?). The most difficult decision is how to store and
> differenciate the feature-limited RichText input from wiki-code which can 
> have
> unlimited features and local customizations.
>
> Last but not least, it is not possible to write such a complex program at 
> once
> - there will certainly be bugs to be fixed as they are uncovered, features
> added or changed, and the module has to be supported in the future.
>
>> "What do you estimate it would take to do it, and how long would it
>> take? What cost?"
>
> Here is a Quote:
>
> 2 weeks of work for a working beta prototype, including:
> * integration with PmWiki pages, passwords and upload directories
> * modules file picker/uploader, link picker
> * full documentation
> * 1 year bugfixing/support on the Cookbook Talk page or in the PITS
> * free software under the GNU GPL, MIT-style license or WTFPL/PD (the best
> things in life are free)
>
> The cost of this work is estimated to be 2100 euros. My company doesn't
> collect V