Re: [pmwiki-users] pmwiki.org web server instability

2010-05-31 Thread CarlosAB
Eemeli Aro wrote:

> For the last week or so (hard to say exactly) I've seen brief periods
> when pmwiki.org and pmichaud.com have been refusing connections on
> port 80. SVN has still worked, mind. Anyone else experienced the same,
> or is it just me?
> 
> eemeli

same here and for me it happened twice at the same time, between 18:00 and
18:20 America/SaoPaulo time. 


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Re: [pmwiki-users] pmwiki.org web server instability

2010-05-28 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:46:20AM -0400, DaveG wrote:
> Same -- large number of timeouts, usually lasting around 5-10
> minutes. Several per day, over the last 10 days or so.

The virtual private server (VPS) software that pmwiki.org is under
watches memory usage, and when it exceeds a certain threshhold limit 
(burst mode) the controller starts killing off processes somewhat randomly
to bring total memory usage back under the limit.  Other processes
run from time to time to bring key services (such as the webserver)
back online if they were killed.

I've never been able to determine exactly what causes the server to
hit the limits.  I know that some of the automated cpanel updates
and system maintenance utilities often cause the memory limit
to be exceeded (which I find frankly annoying, since I don't have
much control over those).

Also, if pmwiki.org (or the other sites I host on the VPS) gets 
flooded with a lot of HTTP requests (e.g. from poorly-behaved spiders) 
then memory usage can go up dramatically as well.  This is especially
true if those requests are for things like pagelists and search
results that require a lot of memory to generate.

I just checked with my service provider, and they apparently have
new hosting packages that eliminate the burst mode problem and are 
also $30/mo *cheaper* than what I currently have.  So, the solution 
looks to me like I should migrate pmwiki.org and my other sites
to a new server package, and this should resolve a lot of our 
service issues.  (It would also upgrade me to later versions
of the OS and control panels and give me a good reason to clean
up many things on the overall system, which should increase 
security and performance a fair bit.)

I'll work on that over the next few days.

Pm

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Re: [pmwiki-users] pmwiki.org web server instability

2010-05-28 Thread Chris Cox
scrap what I said about idle... it is under some load (httpd's).



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Re: [pmwiki-users] pmwiki.org web server instability

2010-05-28 Thread Chris Cox
On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 17:15 -0400, DaveG wrote:
> On 5/28/2010 5:09 PM, Chris Cox wrote:
> >> I've been running into the same thing.
> >
> > Cursory look at the server... I'm not seeing anything right now.
> Same problem, right now.

IMHO, it's not a problem related to the server itself.

I don't admin the box, just have a login.
It's a shared box.

Both CPUs show 78%+ idle... lots of free memory...
I'm just not seeing much of anything.  Maybe when the
smtp wakes up to handle mail... perhaps something happens
then but it's not obvious to me that is causing
any problem.




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Re: [pmwiki-users] pmwiki.org web server instability

2010-05-28 Thread DaveG


On 5/28/2010 5:09 PM, Chris Cox wrote:

I've been running into the same thing.


Cursory look at the server... I'm not seeing anything right now.

Same problem, right now.


 ~ ~ Dave

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Re: [pmwiki-users] pmwiki.org web server instability

2010-05-28 Thread Chris Cox
On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 13:50 +0200, Peter Bowers wrote:
> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Eemeli Aro  wrote:
> > For the last week or so (hard to say exactly) I've seen brief periods
> > when pmwiki.org and pmichaud.com have been refusing connections on
> > port 80.
> 
> I've been running into the same thing.

Cursory look at the server... I'm not seeing anything right now.



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Re: [pmwiki-users] pmwiki.org web server instability

2010-05-28 Thread DaveG
Same -- large number of timeouts, usually lasting around 5-10 minutes. 
Several per day, over the last 10 days or so.



On 5/28/2010 6:43 AM, Eemeli Aro wrote:

For the last week or so (hard to say exactly) I've seen brief periods
when pmwiki.org and pmichaud.com have been refusing connections on
port 80. SVN has still worked, mind. Anyone else experienced the same,
or is it just me?

eemeli

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Re: [pmwiki-users] pmwiki.org web server instability

2010-05-28 Thread Peter Bowers
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Eemeli Aro  wrote:
> For the last week or so (hard to say exactly) I've seen brief periods
> when pmwiki.org and pmichaud.com have been refusing connections on
> port 80.

I've been running into the same thing.

-Peter

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Re: [pmwiki-users] pmwiki.org web server instability

2010-05-28 Thread Francesco Sblendorio
me too

2010/5/28 Eemeli Aro 

> For the last week or so (hard to say exactly) I've seen brief periods
> when pmwiki.org and pmichaud.com have been refusing connections on
> port 80. SVN has still worked, mind. Anyone else experienced the same,
> or is it just me?
>
> eemeli
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[pmwiki-users] pmwiki.org web server instability

2010-05-28 Thread Eemeli Aro
For the last week or so (hard to say exactly) I've seen brief periods
when pmwiki.org and pmichaud.com have been refusing connections on
port 80. SVN has still worked, mind. Anyone else experienced the same,
or is it just me?

eemeli

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