Re: [pmwiki-users] Cookbook/Flash - splitting the page into two?
adam overton wrote: hi there i'm about to upload a major update to the swf-sites.php recipe hosted at http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/Flash, plus i plan to majorly overhaul the page, as it's cluttered with comments, and it's can be confusing to navigate. Just a little :) before i do so, i would like to ask if there are any objections to splitting this page into two? Perhaps: - Cookbook/Flash - to host swf.php and flash.php - and something like Cookbook/FlashVideos (any better ideas?) - to host the recipes for youtube, vimeo, and the variety of other plugins that have been added, either in swf-sites.php or individually. Did you find a reason why they inherently need to be different plugins even? I remember when I looked at this, I wondered why we even had so many scripts. I didn't delve into it deeply, but I wonder why we don't simply have a single plugin for flash content. They all output the same basic html. The only difference might be the way a url is parsed based on domain name if a particular service requires a unique url format or params. ~ ~ Dave ___ pmwiki-users mailing list pmwiki-users@pmichaud.com http://www.pmichaud.com/mailman/listinfo/pmwiki-users
Re: [pmwiki-users] Cookbook/Flash - splitting the page into two?
hi dave i haven't personally worked with the flash.php or swf.php code, so i'm not sure how easy or hard it would be to integrate that with the videosharing sites code. and i'm not sure if i'm the guy to delve any deeper than i have (at thie point at least). for now i just have a big update to the 2nd portion (youtube,vimeo,etc), which has a slightly different function for each vendor due to the slight differences in the parameters they each offer, and how they apply them. there may be a way to consolidate these at some point, but i'm not there yet. as folks will see, i've complicated jon haupt's original solution now that parameters and ROEPatterns are involved. I didn't delve into it deeply, but I wonder why we don't simply have a single plugin for flash content. it seems so far the separate plugins serve two different functions based on their source rather than their output: a. flash.php swf.php are primarily used for embedding your own flash content (likely stored on your own server) b. swf-sites.php ( and the other packages) are embedding from external videosharing sites, all of which seem to have slightly different api-formats and embed code. i think combining the recipes at this point would create a mega-recipe that might be more hefty than someone might like if they only want to enable a. without enabling b., or vice versa one consolidation that could happen would be to add all the extra sprawling recipes (teachertube, audioo, godtube, slidehare) to the youtube/vimeo/googlevideo/flickr recipe, adding new players as they come along. one argument against that would be to keep the more obscure players away from the more common ones. (is that mean?) but maybe you're right - maybe there's a way to combine them more simply. for now, however my question remains - shall i split'em up, or shall all the recipes gather and be merry at the flash-party on the same page : ) a adam overton wrote: hi there i'm about to upload a major update to the swf-sites.php recipe hosted at http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/Flash, plus i plan to majorly overhaul the page, as it's cluttered with comments, and it's can be confusing to navigate. Just a little :) before i do so, i would like to ask if there are any objections to splitting this page into two? Perhaps: - Cookbook/Flash - to host swf.php and flash.php - and something like Cookbook/FlashVideos (any better ideas?) - to host the recipes for youtube, vimeo, and the variety of other plugins that have been added, either in swf-sites.php or individually. Did you find a reason why they inherently need to be different plugins even? I remember when I looked at this, I wondered why we even had so many scripts. I didn't delve into it deeply, but I wonder why we don't simply have a single plugin for flash content. They all output the same basic html. The only difference might be the way a url is parsed based on domain name if a particular service requires a unique url format or params. ~ ~ Dave ___ pmwiki-users mailing list pmwiki-users@pmichaud.com http://www.pmichaud.com/mailman/listinfo/pmwiki-users
Re: [pmwiki-users] Cookbook/Flash - splitting the page into two?
adam overton wrote: one consolidation that could happen would be to add all the extra sprawling recipes (teachertube, audioo, godtube, slidehare) to the youtube/vimeo/googlevideo/flickr recipe, adding new players as they come along. one argument against that would be to keep the more obscure players away from the more common ones. (is that mean?) I'll take a look at this then once you post your changes. but maybe you're right - maybe there's a way to combine them more simply. for now, however my question remains - shall i split'em up, or shall all the recipes gather and be merry at the flash-party on the same page : ) I reckon if we remove the comments and other cruft from the page, having one page should be okay. ~ ~ Dave ___ pmwiki-users mailing list pmwiki-users@pmichaud.com http://www.pmichaud.com/mailman/listinfo/pmwiki-users
Re: [pmwiki-users] Cookbook/Flash - splitting the page into two?
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 14:16 -0700, adam overton wrote: hi there i'm about to upload a major update to the swf-sites.php recipe hosted at http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/Flash, plus i plan to majorly overhaul the page, as it's cluttered with comments, and it's can be confusing to navigate. before i do so, i would like to ask if there are any objections to splitting this page into two? Perhaps: - Cookbook/Flash - to host swf.php and flash.php - and something like Cookbook/FlashVideos (any better ideas?) - to host the recipes for youtube, vimeo, and the variety of other plugins that have been added, either in swf-sites.php or individually. what do you think? IMHO, it's a wiki. Go for it. If somebody doesn't like it, they'll change it back... ___ pmwiki-users mailing list pmwiki-users@pmichaud.com http://www.pmichaud.com/mailman/listinfo/pmwiki-users
Re: [pmwiki-users] Cookbook/Flash - splitting the page into two?
so, i went ahead and added everything to Cookbook/Flash. holler if it looks like it be broken up into 2 separate pages. i guess i'll take this opportunity to announce that i've updated the swf-sites recipe located at http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/Flash the main changes are: * YouTube, Vimeo, GoogleVideo, and FlickrVid markup all now permit the entry of parameters, ex: (:youtube scale=1.5 playlist=1 autoplay=1:) * These four recipes now also have their own $ROEPattern so that pasting the embed code directly into the edit window will result in its conversion to clean pmwiki markup * various defaults can now be setup in config.php for more on this and other more minor changes, visit the recipe page. feedback, bug reports, etc are more than welcome. best, adam adam overton wrote: one consolidation that could happen would be to add all the extra sprawling recipes (teachertube, audioo, godtube, slidehare) to the youtube/vimeo/googlevideo/flickr recipe, adding new players as they come along. one argument against that would be to keep the more obscure players away from the more common ones. (is that mean?) I'll take a look at this then once you post your changes. but maybe you're right - maybe there's a way to combine them more simply. for now, however my question remains - shall i split'em up, or shall all the recipes gather and be merry at the flash-party on the same page : ) I reckon if we remove the comments and other cruft from the page, having one page should be okay. ~ ~ Dave ___ pmwiki-users mailing list pmwiki-users@pmichaud.com http://www.pmichaud.com/mailman/listinfo/pmwiki-users
