Re: [policyd-users] rejection troubleshooting ?

2008-06-10 Thread Håkon Alstadheim
Voytek Eymont wrote:
> I'm a happy user of policyd, it work very well as far as I know,
>
> just today, I had a valid inbound message re-delivered, the sender sent me
> the original rejection as below, any thoughts what went wrong here ?
>
> ---bounced info-
> -Original Message-
> From: Mail Delivery System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, 9 June 2008 9:48 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
>
> This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
>
> A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
> recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
>
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> host bilby.sbt.net.au [116.197.145.51]: 450 4.7.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Recipient address rejected: Policy Rejection- Please try later.:
> retry timeout exceeded
>
> -- This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. --
>
> Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Received: from [203.189.83.189] (helo=youra9279112e3)
> by neptune.acenet.com.au with esmtpa (Exim 4.63)
> (envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
> id 1K2voV-0003ud-4f
> for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 08:14:07 +1000
> From: "x" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: 1st week school hols extra person(s)?
> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 08:14:09 +1000
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="us-ascii"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198
> Thread-Index: AcjD4QF7bfhxGWx8RcWeM+ujZn32DwAU0gmQ
> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> 
>
> in my logs:
>
> # grep acenet.com.au /var/log/maillog.1 | grep voytek
>
>
> Jun  2 08:14:16 bilby policyd: rcpt=126945, greylist=new,
> host=203.189.80.75 (neptune.acenet.com.au), [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=2606
> Jun  2 08:14:16 bilby postfix/smtpd[13133]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
> neptune.acenet.com.au[203.189.80.75]: 450 4.7.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Recipient address rejected: Policy Rejection- Please try later.;
> from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> proto=ESMTP
> helo=
>
> as far as I can tell, I can see it trying another time ?
>
> so is the remote server not trying enough ?
> what else can I check ?
>
>
>   
You mean you can NOT see it trying another time ? In that case it looks 
like a very bad config on the senders side. 450 is not a permanent 
error. It looks like you probably use some kind of greylisting, so the 
"retry timeout" must be what makes the error permanent. Just to be sure, 
what is your greylisting period ? Anything less than 24h should not 
result in permanent errors. A greylist-period of ~5 minutes should not 
cause problems.

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Re: [policyd-users] a point of clarification

2008-06-10 Thread Cami Sardinha
Joe Sloan wrote:
> [bump]
> 
> no one has any idea?
> 
> Joe
> 
> Sloan wrote:
>> One thing that is not clear to me despite reading the docs, is this:
>>
>> When a domain or address is "whitelisted", is it exempted from all 
>> tests, or from greylisting only?

In Policyd v1, all tests.

Cami

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Re: [policyd-users] rejection troubleshooting ?

2008-06-10 Thread Jacco van Koll
Best,

This is caused mostly by M$ mailservers. M$ is known not to follow RFC's
properly, and therefor it creates a 550 messgage whenever it receives a 450
message. Sender is faulty, not receiver. Also, RFC's state that sending
party is responsible for proper delivery. Not the receiving side.

Hope this helps.

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:53:15 +1000 (EST), "Voytek Eymont"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm a happy user of policyd, it work very well as far as I know,
> 
> just today, I had a valid inbound message re-delivered, the sender sent
me
> the original rejection as below, any thoughts what went wrong here ?
> 
> ---bounced info-
> -Original Message-
> From: Mail Delivery System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, 9 June 2008 9:48 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
> 
> This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
> 
> A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
> recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
> 
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> host bilby.sbt.net.au [116.197.145.51]: 450 4.7.1
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Recipient address rejected: Policy Rejection- Please try later.:
> retry timeout exceeded
> 
> -- This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. --
> 
> Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Received: from [203.189.83.189] (helo=youra9279112e3)
> by neptune.acenet.com.au with esmtpa (Exim 4.63)
> (envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
> id 1K2voV-0003ud-4f
> for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 08:14:07 +1000
> From: "x" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: 1st week school hols extra person(s)?
> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 08:14:09 +1000
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="us-ascii"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198
> Thread-Index: AcjD4QF7bfhxGWx8RcWeM+ujZn32DwAU0gmQ
> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> 
> in my logs:
> 
> # grep acenet.com.au /var/log/maillog.1 | grep voytek
> 
> 
> Jun  2 08:14:16 bilby policyd: rcpt=126945, greylist=new,
> host=203.189.80.75 (neptune.acenet.com.au), [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=2606
> Jun  2 08:14:16 bilby postfix/smtpd[13133]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
> neptune.acenet.com.au[203.189.80.75]: 450 4.7.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Recipient address rejected: Policy Rejection- Please try later.;
> from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> proto=ESMTP
> helo=
> 
> as far as I can tell, I can see it trying another time ?
> 
> so is the remote server not trying enough ?
> what else can I check ?
> 
> 
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> 
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Re: [policyd-users] rejection troubleshooting ?

2008-06-10 Thread Voytek Eymont


> Voytek Eymont wrote:

>> as far as I can tell, I can see it trying another time ?
>>
>> so is the remote server not trying enough ? what else can I check ?
>>
>>
>>
> You mean you can NOT see it trying another time ? In that case it looks
> like a very bad config on the senders side. 450 is not a permanent error.
> It looks like you probably use some kind of greylisting, so the
> "retry timeout" must be what makes the error permanent. Just to be sure,
> what is your greylisting period ? Anything less than 24h should not result
> in permanent errors. A greylist-period of ~5 minutes should not cause
> problems.

Håkon, thanks

I have in policyd.conf:
TRIPLET_TIME=4m



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[policyd-users] wildcard use on blacklist_helo

2008-06-10 Thread Hugo Monteiro
Hello list,

Recently i've been receiving quite a lot of spam, from different places, 
with a common denominator. The helo presented by the connecting "server" 
is in the form of SPK.localdomain. This is most likely caused by 
infected workstations, although i am using greylisting also.

I was wondering if i used a wildcard like %.localdomain, in the 
blacklist_helo table, my policyd v1 server would take care of business.

Thank you all in advance.

Hugo Monteiro.

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Re: [policyd-users] a point of clarification

2008-06-10 Thread Joe Sloan
Cami Sardinha wrote:
> Joe Sloan wrote:
>> [bump]
>>
>> no one has any idea?
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> Sloan wrote:
>>> One thing that is not clear to me despite reading the docs, is this:
>>>
>>> When a domain or address is "whitelisted", is it exempted from all 
>>> tests, or from greylisting only?
> 
> In Policyd v1, all tests.

Thanks for the clarification -

Joe

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