climate-mccarthyism/
Climate McCarthyismhttp://stossel.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2009/11/11/climate-mccarthyism/ I've been following the hysterical reaction of the Globalhttp://stossel.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2009/10/19/the-global-warming-church-vs-superfreakonomics/ Warminghttp://stossel.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2009/10/21/the-global-warming-church-vs-superfreakonomics-part-ii/ Churchhttp://stossel.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2009/10/27/the-global-warming-church-vs-superfreakonomics-part-iii/ towards the authors of Super Freakonomicshttp://www.amazon.com/SuperFreakonomics-Cooling-Patriotic-Prostitutes-Insurance/dp/0060889578. Much of the hysteria was whipped up by Climate Progress blogger Joe Rommhttp://climateprogress.org/ who attempted to discredit the book by smearing the authorshttp://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/18/global-warming-in-superfreakonomics-the-anatomy-of-a-smear/. As I said before, if you don’t agree with global warming orthodoxy, you face personal attacks. Reason's Ron Baileyhttp://reason.com/blog/2009/11/09/joe-romm-is-climate-mccarthyit alerts me to another phrase for this kind of intimidation: Climate McCarthyismhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism. The phrase was coined by Ted Nordhaus and Michael Schellenberger, unconventional liberal environmentalists who blog at the Breakthrough Institute http://www.thebreakthrough.org/, to compare the free speech chilling smear tactics of global warming zealots to the communist witch hunts conducted by Sen. Joe McCarthy during the Cold War. They call Joe Romm the Climate McCarthyite-in-Chiefhttp://thebreakthrough.org/blog/2009/11/climate_mccarthyism_part_i_joe.shtml#more : Joe Romm's Global Warming Deniers and Delayers play the same role as Joe McCarthy's Communists and Communist sympathizers. While Romm built a loyal liberal and environmentalist following for attacking right-wing global warming deniers -- a designation meant to invoke Holocaust denier -- he spends much of his time attacking well-meaning journalists (e.g. herehttp://climateprogress.org/2009/02/25/andy-revkin-al-gore-george-will-false-balance/ , here http://climateprogress.org/2009/04/27/npr-on-the-media-dyson-romm/, and herehttp://climateprogress.org/2009/08/02/did-time-bryan-walsh-cut-and-paste-the-breakthrough-institute-clean-energy/), academics (herehttp://climateprogress.org/2009/03/05/why-do-the-deniers-try-to-shout-down-any-talk-of-a-link-between-climate-change-and-extreme-weather/ and herehttp://climateprogress.org/2009/10/29/contrarian-chic-media-contrarian-freeman-dyson-superfreakonomics/) and activists (herehttp://climateprogress.org/2009/05/17/greenpeace-attack-waxman-markey-european-trading-scheme/ , herehttp://climateprogress.org/2009/07/12/how-sharper-than-a-serpents-tooth-energy-action-coalition-its-getting-hot-in-here-the-breakthrough-institutes-anti-climate-disinformation/ and herehttp://climateprogress.org/2009/07/27/america-clean-energy-race-the-breakthrough-institute/) who take the issue of global warming seriously, accept climate science, and support immediate action to address it. His aim is to intimidate and prevent increasing numbers of people from questioning climate policy orthodoxy, and especially Democratic efforts to pass cap and trade climate legislation. ... Think about it: If you're an ambitious young Democratic Hill staffer, a liberal policy analyst, or a struggling young reporter, why would you ever stand up to a guy who is famous for first trashing people to their editors, employers and funders in private emails, and then, if that doesn't work, in public blogs? Why would you challenge someone who seems to have so much of the liberal establishment on his side? ... This is the state of liberal debate about climate change. ... Those who stand up to Joe Romm find themselves turned into projection screens by an angry and vindictive bully...There will always be bullies like Joe Romm -- they are not the problem. It is the the establishment figures who goad them on, and the bystanders who could speak up but do not Good for Nordhaus and Shellenberger for standing up to it. They have another post herehttp://thebreakthrough.org/blog/2009/11/climate_mccarthyism_part_2_equ.shtml#more . http://stossel.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2009/11/11/climate-mccarthyism/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Fwd: [I-S] Fort Hood Terrorist Sent Money to Pakistan
Fort Hood shooting suspect sent money to Pakistan, Texas congressman says 12:14 AM CST on Friday, November 13, 2009 By DAVE MICHAELS and LEE HANCOCK / The Dallas Morning News dmicha...@dallasnews.com dmichaels%40dallasnews.com lhanc...@dallasnews.com lhancock%40dallasnews.com An Austin congressman said Thursday that he has confirmed that Fort Hood massacre suspect Nidal Malik Hasan http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/Nidal_Malik_Hasan wired money to Pakistan, which Muslim extremist groups use as a base to raise funds and carry out terrorist attacks. Rep. Michael McCaul's statement followed a Dallas Morning News report that authorities were looking into whether such wire transfers had occurred. It also came as Army officials announced charges of premeditated murder against Hasan, who could face the death penalty. I have confirmed through independent sources that there were communications and wire transfers made to Pakistan, McCaul said in a prepared statement provided by his spokesman. This Pakistan connection just raises more red flags about this case and demonstrates why it's important for Congress http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/U.S._Congress to exercise its oversight authority. The spokesman, Mike Rosen http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/Mike_Rosen , said McCaul wouldn't name his sources. The congressman's statement didn't address who Hasan's contacts in Pakistan were, when he communicated with them or how much money he sent. McCaul is the top Republican http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/U.S._Republican_Party on the House Homeland Security Committee's intelligence subcommittee. He typically is briefed on classified material but had yet to be formally briefed on the Fort Hood killings. He has been actively seeking information from as many credible sources as possible, Rosen said. It has been more difficult than usual to obtain information from our intelligence community. Asked about McCaul's comments, an FBI http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/Federal_Bureau_of_Investigation spokesman in Washington said he couldn't comment on any aspect of the investigation. Evan Kohlmann, a terrorism expert who has consulted with the FBI and the Defense http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/US_Department_of_Defense Department, noted that Hasan is a U.S. citizen of Palestinian descent, with no known family ties to Pakistan. Kohlmann said that leaves only two reasons for the psychiatrist to wire money to the South Asian country: to support charity or to support jihad. Westerners who want to give to a legitimate Pakistani charity typically would do so by putting money in a U.S. or British bank account, he added. It raises huge alarm bells, Kohlmann said of Hasan's reported wire transfers. Pakistan borders Afghanistan, the country to which Hasan was supposed to deploy soon. Pakistan is battling a radical Islamic insurgency and is widely believed to be the hiding place of Osama bin Laden http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/Osama_bin_Laden . Following the money Dennis Lormel, a former FBI special agent who directed the agency's efforts to identify sources of terrorist financing, said investigators would take note of the large amount of disposable income Hasan apparently had. He made more than $90,000 a year, had no wife or dependents, and paid about $300 a month for a tiny apartment. It seems like there is a lifestyle that was beneath his means, said Lormel, now a managing director for IPSA International, a consultant to banks on combating money laundering. Where is the money going? Lormel said Hasan could have used several channels to wire money abroad, including remittance services that cater to immigrant workers who send money to their native countries. If that were the case, there may be documentation of the transaction, Lormel and others said. Banks and other money transmitters must tell the Treasury http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/United_States_Department_of_the_Treasury Department if an individual sends more than $10,000 outside the country. Kohlmann said only a breakdown could explain the FBI's failure to dig deeper when it discovered late last year that Hasan was communicating by e-mail with Anwar al-Awlaki http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/Anwar_al-Awlaki , a radical cleric in Yemen. The U.S.-born imam exhorted Western Muslims in January to practice jihad - often translated as holy war - by donating money. Al-Awlaki worked several years ago at a northern Virginia mosque that Hasan and some of the 9/11 hijackers attended. Federal authorities have investigated the cleric's ties to terrorists since the 1990s but never brought charges against him. Everybody at the FBI knows who Anwar al-Awlaki is, Kohlmann said. In the world of jihadis, this guy is Bruce Springsteen http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/Bruce_Springsteen . After the Fort Hood massacre, the cleric said on his blog that Hasan was a hero. Intelligence review FBI officials have said they didn't pursue Hasan last year because his
Re: This Healthcare Debate Has Been a Real Eye-Opener for Me...
Luis, Why should I pay YOUR health insurance policy ??? Are you personally responsible for NOTHING Just go to the emergency room and claim to be an illegal alien. they will treat you for free. On Nov 11, 3:02 pm, CaliforniaLuis rivcu...@gmail.com wrote: It has showed me that your average Republican/conservative would let a sick child or person die simply because they weren't able to afford health insurance. Why? Because they don't want to pay a few dollars more in taxes. In the meantime, they are living their gluttonous, materialistic lives. Conservatives/Republicans are truly self- centered, soulless scum. They are grand hypocrites, have phony moral values and their so- called Christianity is nothing more than a farce. Shame on you people! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Now this does not seem like a good way for a city to make money
+--+ | City Laws Only Available Via $200 License | | from the calling-doctor-malamud dept. | | posted by kdawson on Friday November 13, @09:00 (Government) | |https://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/11/13/1310212/City-Laws-Only-Available-Via-200-License | +--+ MrLint writes The City of [0] Schenectady has decided that their laws are copyrighted, and that you cannot know them without paying for an 'exclusive license' for $200. This is not a first — [1]Oregon has claimed publishing of laws online is a copyright violation. This case is nuanced. The city has contracted with a private company to convert and encode its laws so they can be made available on the Web for free. While the company works on this project, it considers the electronic versions of the laws its property and offers a CD version, bundled with its software, for $200. The man who requested a copy of the laws plans to appeal. Discuss this story at: http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=09/11/13/1310212 Links: 0.http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=864641 1.http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/09/16/1925206/Professor-Posts-Illegal-Copy-of-Guide-To-Oregon-Public-Record-Laws --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Sarah Socialist Barracuda Palin
On Nov 14, 12:13 am, LadybugsTX ladybug...@cox.net wrote: Sweetie, you don't know shyte about shyte. I know you're a terrific debater. I'll leave the study of shyte up to Republicans. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Gee, now the NYT has noticed the job losses
On Nov 13, 6:07 pm, LadybugsTX ladybug...@cox.net wrote: I also heard that they are opening an office in Florida with 25 employees to evade NY taxes. Isn't that hypocritical? I think they should be forced to stay in NY and sleep in the bed they made. Never mind that there's a large percentage of New Yorkers that retire to Florida. Why are you so scared of 25 Americans? Is your whole world based upon fear? You better lock the doors and tape up the seams so the boogie man can't get you. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Sarah Socialist Barracuda Palin
Sgae2, Oh no, there's no need to expend any more of your precious energy, I'm already convinced your an idiot as well as a liar. On Nov 13, 11:22 pm, Sage2 wisdom...@gmail.com wrote: Is that as fast as the Twin Towers that guys like Hassan brought down, or is it as fast as you and your liberal friends turned coat on the side of thre terrorists and against your American countrymen? ***** On Nov 13, 10:58 pm, Hollywood jims29...@gmail.com wrote: Sage2, Give up while your ahead kiddo. You're IQ, and credibility, is going down faster than a bottle of vodka at Courtney Love's house. On Nov 13, 8:54 pm, Sage2 wisdom...@gmail.com wrote: Holly, Studio's envy of Sarah has been noted just as Muslim envy of the west has been noted. He could be named Hassan ! *** On Nov 13, 9:50 pm, Hollywood jims29...@gmail.com wrote: Sage2, That could be considered somewhat clever.but only if you were 9 years old. I mean physically instead of emotionally intellectually. On Nov 13, 8:39 pm, Sage2 wisdom...@gmail.com wrote: Studio, Is your last name Hassan ? ** * On Nov 13, 9:06 pm, studio tl...@hotmail.com wrote: On Nov 13, 2:42 pm, plainolamerican plainolameri...@gmail.com wrote: your envy of Sarah has been noted I hope my justice, equality for all (and not just for her), and non- hypocrisy has been noted as well. You sure as hell wouldn't be seeing any of that from her.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Sarah Socialist Barracuda Palin
dick, No idea. On Nov 13, 10:20 pm, dick thompson rhomp2...@earthlink.net wrote: who is Courtney Love when she is at home. Hollywood wrote On 11/13/2009 10:58 PM: Sage2, Give up while your ahead kiddo. You're IQ, and credibility, is going down faster than a bottle of vodka at Courtney Love's house. On Nov 13, 8:54 pm, Sage2wisdom...@gmail.com wrote: Holly, Studio's envy of Sarah has been noted just as Muslim envy of the west has been noted. He could be named Hassan ! *** On Nov 13, 9:50 pm, Hollywoodjims29...@gmail.com wrote: Sage2, That could be considered somewhat clever.but only if you were 9 years old. I mean physically instead of emotionally intellectually. On Nov 13, 8:39 pm, Sage2wisdom...@gmail.com wrote: Studio, Is your last name Hassan ? ** * On Nov 13, 9:06 pm, studiotl...@hotmail.com wrote: On Nov 13, 2:42 pm, plainolamericanplainolameri...@gmail.com wrote: your envy of Sarah has been noted I hope my justice, equality for all (and not just for her), and non- hypocrisy has been noted as well. You sure as hell wouldn't be seeing any of that from her.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: INCREASE IN DANGER FROM UNIONS
Sgae2, Weak. Try again, your arguement lacks logic and depends entirely upon me believing and accepting your particular definition of sponging. Irrational at best. On Nov 13, 11:17 pm, Sage2 wisdom...@gmail.com wrote: Holly, A main point is that the military can may not organize for puposes of sponging of the taxpayers like civilian government workers do. Does everything have to be spelled out for you. Think man! ****** On Nov 13, 9:58 pm, Hollywood jims29...@gmail.com wrote: Sage2, Yeah, Govt. Unions work for the people, the tax-payer. So? The same is true of military personnel, cops, fireman, emergency workers and all politicians. By your own logic any one's who paycheck depends on tax-payer funds works for us. I guess you could say any corporation who gets 51% of it's business from city, county, state or the Federal govt. also works for us. What's your point? On Nov 13, 7:40 pm, Sage2 wisdom...@gmail.com wrote: Holly, The problem being of course that Government Unions work for the American people, corporations don't. Hence Government Unions by virtue of that fact should be more accountable. Hence ( as ladybug said ) a conflict of interest to the taxpayers who provides their bread butter. Yet they have the gall to bite the hand that feeds them. **** On Nov 13, 7:56 pm, Hollywood jims29...@gmail.com wrote: Sage2, Simple matter of the unions learned to play the same games, such as buying political influence, as has been played by corporate America and pretty much everyone else for decades and decades. Don't like it now? Fine, make it illegal for anyone and everyone to buy political influence. But let's not sit here and pretend that unions invented the process for God'd sake. On Nov 13, 6:43 pm, Sage2 wisdom...@gmail.com wrote: Holly, Consider that Government Employees make up 51% of all union memberships as opposed to only about 27% by private businesses. I'd say the Government Employees are the ones that are more likely to corrupt the system. Ladybug makes a valid point. Obama recieved 67.5 million from these Government unions; which proves Ladybugs point, there is a conflict of interest. *** On Nov 13, 6:17 pm, Hollywood jims29...@gmail.com wrote: Ladybug, Why in the name of God should unions be illegal? That makes no sense. On Nov 13, 5:14 pm, LadybugsTX ladybug...@cox.net wrote: I think unions in the Government is a conflict of interests and should be against the law. Hell, I think unions should be against the law. On Nov 13, 3:10 pm, GATORPOP cly...@cyberstreet.com wrote: - The Foundry -http://blog.heritage.org- Morning Bell: Big Labor Is Bankrupting Our Country Posted By Conn Carroll On November 13, 2009 @ 10:06 am In Enterprise and Free Markets | 25 Comments Last month when the White House released its visitor log [1] for the first six months of the Obama presidency, one name appeared far more often than any other: Service Employee International Union (SEIU) President Andrew Stern. Stern has every right to expect to be welcome in the Obama White House. He has repeatedly bragged [2] about the fact that under his leadership, the SEIU spent $60.7 million to elect Barack Obama president. Stern and Obama collectively support ever expanding federal government programs and state government bailouts which are rapidly bankrupting our country. Unlike his predecessor, John Sweeney [3], who came up the ranks after starting with the International Ladies Garment Workers Union, Stern entered the labor movement when the SEIU organized his shop when he was working as a welfare case worker [4] for the State of Pennsylvania. Stern’s public sector entrance into labor is by no means an anomaly. In fact, for the first time ever in American history, preliminary estimates of union membership for 2009 show that most union members now work for either the local, state, or federal government [5]. Heritage scholar James Sherk has the numbers [5]: “The overall unionization rate between January and September 2009 stood at 12.4% [6], unchanged from last
Re: This is truly funny
dick, That wasn't my question. Now was it? On Nov 13, 10:18 pm, dick thompson rhomp2...@earthlink.net wrote: Bush was able to reduce the federal deficit from over 400 billion to less than 200 billion in 3 years and fight 2 wars and create jobs and have an unemployment rate of around 5 %. In less than 1 year Obama has managed to triple that debt and in fact in one month he created more debt than Bush did in 8 years. Which did more damage to our grandchildren. Obviously Zero did more damage and he is trying to do even more damage as we speak. yet you voted for him and support him. No accounting for taste must be the answer for your idiocy. Hollywood wrote On 11/13/2009 10:02 PM: dick, Name the most recent fiscal year when our grand-children and potentially great-grand-children WERE NOT faced with tons of debt. On Nov 13, 10:22 am, dick thompsonrhomp2...@earthlink.net wrote: Now that Zero has caused our grandchildren and potentially our great-grandchildren to be saddled with tons of debt for decades to come and when the legislation now before the House and Senate will triple that debt, suddenly he wants to focus extensively on cutting the federal deficit in 2010. The mind boggles. What is he going to cut. He has just ramped up almost all spending to the n-th degree so he is suddenly going to cut that same spending? I doubt it. This is just more cmpaigning which seems to be the only thing this POS president we have is capable of doing - and lately that is getting more tiresome to the point that a lot of his supporters are talking about it and complaining that he has done nothing but campaign since the inauguration. http://www.politico.com *After spending binge, W.H. says it will focus on deficits* By: Mike Allen and Jim VandeHei November 13, 2009 04:25 AM EST President Barack Obama http://topics.politico.com/index.cfm/topic/BarackObama plans to announce in next year's State of the Union address that he wants to focus extensively on cutting the federal deficit http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/26421.html in 2010 -- and will downplay other new domestic spending beyond jobs programs http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29437.html, according to top aides involved in the planning. The president's plan, which the officials said was under discussion before this month's Democratic election setbacks http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29116.html, represents both a practical and a political calculation by this White House. On the practical side, Obama has spent more money on new programs in nine months than Bill Clinton http://topics.politico.com/index.cfm/topic/BillClinton did in eight years, pushing the annual deficit to $1.4 trillion. This leaves little room for big spending initiatives. On the political side, Obama can help moderate Democrats http://topics.politico.com/index.cfm/topic/Democrats avoid some tough votes in an election year http://topics.politico.com/index.cfm/topic/2010Election and, perhaps more importantly, calm the nerves of independent voters who are voicing big concerns with the big spending and deficits. Even if Obama succeeds - and that's a big if - it will be tough for many Democrats to sell themselves as deeply concerned about spending after voting for the stimulus, the bailouts, the health care legislation and a plan to address global warming, four enormous government programs. Democrats have to reassure voters we are not being reckless, said a Democratic official involved in the planning. The White House http://topics.politico.com/index.cfm/topic/WhiteHouse knows this and that's why we'll be hearing a lot about reducing the deficit early next year. Democrats owned this issue for the past four years and cannot afford to cede it to Republicans now. White House budget director Peter Orszag said in a statement to POLITICO: The President strongly believes that as the recovery strengthens and job growth returns, we will have to take the tough steps necessary to return our nation to a fiscally disciplined and sustainable path. We recognize that the projected medium-term deficits are too high, and as part of the FY 2011 budget process, we are committed to bringing them down. Our challenge is to tackle those out-year deficits in a way and at a time that does not choke off economic recovery, and the FY 2011 budget will reflect our best judgment about how to walk that line. The big question for Obama -- and the country -- is whether the sudden concern about deficits will be more rhetoric than reality once his first State of the Union address concludes. All presidents promise deficit reduction -- and almost always fall short. There is good reason to be skeptical of this White House, too, on its commitment. For starters, the White House has not dropped plans for an aggressive global warming bill early
Re: This is truly funny
On Nov 13, 11:22 am, dick thompson rhomp2...@earthlink.net wrote: Now that Zero has caused our grandchildren and potentially our great-grandchildren to be saddled with tons of debt for decades to come and when the legislation now before the House and Senate will triple that debt, suddenly he wants to focus extensively on cutting the federal deficit in 2010. The mind boggles. What is he going to cut. Zero did that? I thought Bush Jr. started it up again? yep, I'm right, Bush Jr. did. Why cut anything? Do what Bush Jr. did and borrow it all. As a matter of fact, they might borrow everything they can, from everyone they can so that Republiturds won't get us in any more wars that have zero return on investment. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Napolitano Announces Obama Administration Plan to Give Amnesty to Illegal Aliens
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/57133 Napolitano Announces Obama Administration Plan to Give Amnesty to Illegal Aliens Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Friday that the Obama administration will push for “immigration reform” by giving the estimated 14 million people who are in the United States illegally “fair pathway to earned legal status.” “A tough and fair pathway to earned legal status will mandate that illegal immigrants meet a number of requirements—including registering, paying a fine, passing a criminal background check, fully paying all taxes and learning English,” Napolitano said Friday at a panel discussion at the liberal Center for American Progress in Washington, D.C. “These are substantial requirements that will make sure this population gets right with the law,” Napolitano said. “It will help fix our broken system.” Napolitano said the Obama administration is working to end the recession and put Americans back to work but said giving legal status to illegal aliens will “strengthen our economy.” “Requiring illegal immigrants to register to earn legal status, as I discussed earlier, will strengthen our economy as these immigrants become full-paying taxpayers,” Napolitano said. “As labor leaders have made clear to me, immigration reform will be a boon to American workers. “Think about it: unions will never achieve the best terms for workers when a large part of the workforce is illegal and operates in a shadow economy,” Napolitano said. “By contrast, the status quo not only hurts American workers, it also stifles potential opportunities to grow our economy.” Napolitano said that she has seen a “major shift” in the immigration landscape, which the Obama administration hopes will make it easier for Congress to pass new immigration laws. Included in that shift, Napolitano said, is a more secure border between the United States and Mexico, tougher law enforcement that has resulted in more arrests of criminal illegal immigrants and confiscation of contraband, and fewer people coming into the country illegally because of current economic conditions. “For starters, the security of the Southwest border has been transformed from where it was in 2007,” Napolitano said. “The federal government has dedicated unprecedented resources to the Mexican border in terms of manpower, technology and infrastructure—and it’s made a real difference. “Compared to last year, seizures in all categories—drugs, smuggled cash, and illegal weapons—are up dramatically. For example, just looking at bulk cash, Customs and Border Protection has seized at the border more than $34 million in cash being smuggled southbound so far this year—more than four times as much as at this time last year. “Moreover, the immigration debate in 2007 happened during a period of historically high levels of illegal entry into the United States. Two years later, because of better enforcement and the current economic circumstances, those numbers have fallen sharply. The flow has reduced significantly – by more than half from the busiest years, proving we are in a much different environment than we were before. “These are major differences that should change the immigration conversation,” Napolitano said. The secretary said the Obama administration is “committed to this issue.” “When Congress is ready to act, we will be ready to support them,” Napolitano said. . --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
A Preview of Obama’s Future Speeches Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Myself and I
*Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Myself and I* *A Preview of Obamas Future Speeches* *By* *Daniel Greenfield* Wednesday, November 11, 2009 There are few things that Obama does as well as reading speeches off a teleprompter, unless its posing for photos or deficit spending. Heres a satirical preview of some possible upcoming Obama speeches all united by one common theme. Him, Himself and He. *On the 40th Anniversary of the Apollo 12 Moon Landing.* Eight years before the Apollo 12 touched down in the cold lunar dust, in the hot summer days of the year 1961, a dimwitted hippie from Kansas and a Kenyan philanderer gave birth to a little boy at some undisclosed location. That boy was born into a far different America, an America where no one thought that a little black boy could travel to the moon, let alone become President. Today America can no longer travel to the moon, but that little boy sits in the White House and 40 years from now when we are celebrating the 40 year anniversary of my presidency, who is to say which accomplishment will be seen as the greater one? I am. Its me. Me! *Statement on the Great California Quake of 2010* Lets open this up with a shout out to my good buddy Joe Crowfoot, there in the back row. Joe knows what its like to party. Okay back to the earthquake. Ive been on record before as being opposed to earthquakes. In the Senate, I voted for the Opposition to Earthquakes and Sexual Predator Empowerment Act that would have devoted a million dollars to earthquake prevention by sending convicted sexual predators into schools to talk to children about earthquake safety. No Republican voted for that Act. Very few Democrats did as a matter of fact. I was the only one willing to go out on a limb and take a stand. But the Republicans as usual didnt care if a lot of little kids die in an earthquake. And today that is exactly what happened. Thats why its urgent that we pass health care reform. Because Republicans cant protect you from earthquakes. For that matter Republicans dont care what happens to you in earthquake. Only my health care reform plan can stop earthquakes. *Remarks on the opening of the Amelia Earhart Exhibit at the Museum of Air and Space* Like me, Amelia Earhart was a great historic figure. When Amelia Earhart made her famous 1928 transatlantic flight, few people believed that she could accomplish that feat. Similarly when I ran for President, few people besides my billionaire backers believed I could do it. Sure I had two best selling biographies and a lot of catch phrases, but like Earhart I had to sit in the back while someone else did the flying. And even though I was never tragically lost at sea, as Amelia was, I think that to many people I represent an Amelia Earhart for the 21st century. An Amelia more representative of a changing America, more open and willing to listen to other peoples experiences and eager to pass health care reform. A Bill that I truly know Amelia would have approved of and lobbied for. *Comments During the Visit of the Special Olympics Basketball Team* Folks, lets welcome some truly superb athletes today. These special little guys are athletes with real heart and soul. Of course they cant sink a basket like I can. In a game between me and their entire team, I bet I would beat the pants off them. But thats because I have something special that they dont have. No, not just working legs. I mean real drive and determination. The same drive and determination that took me from smoking pot in Hawaii, to smoking pot with Vice-President Joe Biden in the White House. Even if some tragic accident were to somehow deprive me of the use of my legs, I bet I would figure out a way to make them work again. And then I would write a best selling book about it to teach other people how to do it too. Now thats what real determination looks like. *Speech on the Extinction of the North American Gray Wolf* Once upon a time they hunted the wide prairies and mountainous regions of North America, fearsome predators, yet devoted and intelligent animals. Today they are no more. And there is a simple but tragic reason for that. Poor adaptation skills. I can relate to the Gray Wolf because gray is a color in between black and white. When I was growing up as a mixed race teenager in Hawaii with a confused identity and no real skills besides compulsive lying, I quickly learned to adapt to any situation. Whether I was mixing with white people or black people, I quickly learned to blend in, to repress who I really was, in order to be part of the crowd. That is a skill that the North American Gray Wolf tragically lacked. And that is why it is extinct today. Had the Gray Wolf been more like me, Barack Obama, then he too might be sitting in the White House. *Statement During the Reopening of the Smithsonian Museum* I was pleased to be able to appropriate 100 million to the renovation of the Smithsonian, the institution which holds within its walls so much of our prized and
Clouds Hang Over the Global-Warming Alarmists
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Some fools never learn......
When the terrorists who attempted to bring down the WTC in 1993 with a truck bomb were tried in civilian court in New York, testimony was elicited in open court to the fact that (paraphrasing), It would take a plane the size of a 727 fully fueled to bring down the WTC. Having learned that tid bit of information in a civilian court of law, a mere 8 years later, that's exactly what they did! Now, we're going to try terrorists again in a civilian court where the testimony, presumably including the intelligence that led to their capture, will be presented in open court. In addition, they will be afforded every defense pursuant to due process that we guarantee to U.S. citizens under the Constitution, etc. Once, again, we run the risk of schooling our enemies in the intracacies of our national security safeguards! Some fools never learn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Just another Religious Hate Crime
that will not be deemed a Hate Crime by Democrats... Of course anti Christian hatred isn't a hate crime to them... To the MSM, the new narrative if a Moslem, their anti-Christian rhetoric and action are due to mental illness But a Christian would be a bigoted and hateful creature if doing the same actions... To me there should a single standard that allows for a willing acceptance of bad deeds due to the bigotry and hatred found in ALL groups... In short the real questions that Moslems should be asking is How can we deal with our racism, bigotry, and hatred found in our community? And How can we build bridges for understanding to the majority Christians, and How can we offer sincere and honest apologies to our fellow citizens?... Of course this assumes the American Moslem communities bear the same rights and responsibilities as any other American community... http://www.danvilleweekly.com/news/show_story.php?id=2339 Hamid was arraigned Tuesday morning at Alameda Superior Court in Pleasanton on charges of battery, grand theft, exhibition of a deadly weapon and a possible hate crime. Deputy District Attorney Ronda Theisen requested his bail remain at $27,000. Calling it a bizarre case, Theisen also asked that Hamid, who is still in custody, be ordered to stay out of Stoneridge Shopping Center. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Lookback - Towards a socialist America?
18 million illegal immigrants would still remain uncovered --- as they should they're criminals who illegally entered our nation, robbed our social service system, committed a disproportionate amount of crimes, filled our prison system beyond capacity, and then were protected by liberals and various religious groups. They should be charged for their crimes, forced to repay their debt, and then be deported. Their dna should be collected and a criminal record should be on file forever. Uncontrolled immigration is a crime against our society. Those in DC who have voted and used their influence to allow it to continue are to blame and should be made political history. On Nov 13, 10:29 pm, Pradeep Sharma pradeep.pradeepsha...@gmail.com wrote: Debating the Health Reforms Bill The Pioneer Nov 14 2009 Lookback - Towards a socialist America?\ The passage of the `America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009' made history in the capital of world capitalism on the 20th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall -- is this a new chapter for socialism? At a time when US President Barack Obama faces stiff opposition in the US Congress due to the prospect of losing a war in Afghanistan, increasing unemployment rate at 10.2 per cent, double loss in two crucial governor's races , the rolling out of the sweeping health-care reform Bill is indeed a victory for the first Black President. Once implemented, the $1-trillion House Bill would cover 96 per cent of Americans, including 20 per cent of the uninsured population, with subsidies to lower-income individuals and families. Private companies would sell insurance policies in competition with the public plan only through a new government-regulated insurance `exchange'. The proposals includes implementation of guaranteed affordable health care for all US citizens, reduction in cost, removal of patent protection, and employers' contributions to health insurance. The proposals seem impressive. However, like all reform efforts, Obama's signature domestic issue faced severe criticism from interest groups like the American Medical Association (AMA), the pharmaceutical industry, and private insurance companies which feared the vast untapped population would opt for the public plan. Other contentious issues like abortion coverage and exclusion of illegal immigrants from the government health-care system are likely to be raised when the House Bill is debated in the Senate. The Association of Americans and Canadians in Israel (AACI) has asked its members to protest against the Bill because it requires US citizens living abroad to pay $750 annually for insurance they may not be able to avail. But AACI executive director David London said that his organisation's disagreement over the `immigrant' element of the Bill should not be seen as opposition to the reform plan in general. Most importantly, it has given rise to an unprecedented debate. Is President Obama a socialist? Nobody has ever raised such a question about an American President before. That this should happen in the age of `marketnomics', pure capitalism plus one, is the other wonder. One of the early articulators of this line of attack is the Republican Congresswoman Michele Bachmann who has called the Bill the Crown jewel of Socialism. Toeing the line of the American Medical Association (AMA), she called it Democrats' plan for `socialised medicine'. Senator Jim DeMint of South Carolina says that the health care reform Bill could be `Obama's Waterloo.' Republicans have been vociferous in their opposition to the Bill, saying that it would open the door for an expensive government takeover of health care. Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele charged President Obama with pursuing a kind of socialism that will hurt the US economy. Steele compared Obama's justification of the Bill with the Republicans' `fictional' assessments of the creation of Lyndon Johnson's Medicare in 1965. He said, I think that there is a legitimate debate there about the impact that Medicare and Medicaid are having on the overall fabric of our economy. I think, though, in this case, unlike 1965, the the level of government control and intrusion is far greater and much more expansive than anything we've ever seen. The anti-reform lobby is raising doubts over the kind of change Obama has in mind for their once-free republic. As the health sector represents one-seventh of the US economy, the government's plan for its takeover is seen as `aggressive socialism.' But others differ in their views. They say what Obama is doing is to provide accessible health care to poor labourers and in the lower income bracket; while socialism is about providing free health care for all. Supporters defend Obama by comparing the reform Bill with former President Bush's nationalization of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The present health-care reform effort survived turbulent times since the
Re: Just another Religious Hate Crime
ah, more multiculturalism at it's finest! On Nov 14, 10:49 am, jgg1000a jgg1...@hotmail.com wrote: that will not be deemed a Hate Crime by Democrats... Of course anti Christian hatred isn't a hate crime to them... To the MSM, the new narrative if a Moslem, their anti-Christian rhetoric and action are due to mental illness But a Christian would be a bigoted and hateful creature if doing the same actions... To me there should a single standard that allows for a willing acceptance of bad deeds due to the bigotry and hatred found in ALL groups... In short the real questions that Moslems should be asking is How can we deal with our racism, bigotry, and hatred found in our community? And How can we build bridges for understanding to the majority Christians, and How can we offer sincere and honest apologies to our fellow citizens?... Of course this assumes the American Moslem communities bear the same rights and responsibilities as any other American community... http://www.danvilleweekly.com/news/show_story.php?id=2339 Hamid was arraigned Tuesday morning at Alameda Superior Court in Pleasanton on charges of battery, grand theft, exhibition of a deadly weapon and a possible hate crime. Deputy District Attorney Ronda Theisen requested his bail remain at $27,000. Calling it a bizarre case, Theisen also asked that Hamid, who is still in custody, be ordered to stay out of Stoneridge Shopping Center. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Some fools never learn......
the military should continue to torture them for information until they are executed that some would afford these scumbags the same legal rights as American citizens is a travesty On Nov 14, 10:06 am, Travis baconl...@gmail.com wrote: When the terrorists who attempted to bring down the WTC in 1993 with a truck bomb were tried in civilian court in New York, testimony was elicited in open court to the fact that (paraphrasing), It would take a plane the size of a 727 fully fueled to bring down the WTC. Having learned that tid bit of information in a civilian court of law, a mere 8 years later, that's exactly what they did! Now, we're going to try terrorists again in a civilian court where the testimony, presumably including the intelligence that led to their capture, will be presented in open court. In addition, they will be afforded every defense pursuant to due process that we guarantee to U.S. citizens under the Constitution, etc. Once, again, we run the risk of schooling our enemies in the intracacies of our national security safeguards! Some fools never learn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Napolitano Announces Obama Administration Plan to Give Amnesty to Illegal Aliens
earned legal status will mandate that illegal immigrants meet a number of requirements—including registering, --- after they've returned their country paying a fine, --- if accepted back into the USA passing a criminal background check, --- they all will have a criminal record for violating our immigration laws fully paying all taxes --- all back taxes also and learning English --- blah, blah, blah I Can't Recall Reagan also gave them amnesty to our detriment better solution: make Mexico the 52nd state - otherwise CA, AZ, NM, and TX will become Mexico states On Nov 14, 9:58 am, Travis baconl...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/57133 Napolitano Announces Obama Administration Plan to Give Amnesty to Illegal Aliens Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Friday that the Obama administration will push for “immigration reform” by giving the estimated 14 million people who are in the United States illegally “fair pathway to earned legal status.” “A tough and fair pathway to earned legal status will mandate that illegal immigrants meet a number of requirements—including registering, paying a fine, passing a criminal background check, fully paying all taxes and learning English,” Napolitano said Friday at a panel discussion at the liberal Center for American Progress in Washington, D.C. “These are substantial requirements that will make sure this population gets right with the law,” Napolitano said. “It will help fix our broken system.” Napolitano said the Obama administration is working to end the recession and put Americans back to work but said giving legal status to illegal aliens will “strengthen our economy.” “Requiring illegal immigrants to register to earn legal status, as I discussed earlier, will strengthen our economy as these immigrants become full-paying taxpayers,” Napolitano said. “As labor leaders have made clear to me, immigration reform will be a boon to American workers. “Think about it: unions will never achieve the best terms for workers when a large part of the workforce is illegal and operates in a shadow economy,” Napolitano said. “By contrast, the status quo not only hurts American workers, it also stifles potential opportunities to grow our economy.” Napolitano said that she has seen a “major shift” in the immigration landscape, which the Obama administration hopes will make it easier for Congress to pass new immigration laws. Included in that shift, Napolitano said, is a more secure border between the United States and Mexico, tougher law enforcement that has resulted in more arrests of criminal illegal immigrants and confiscation of contraband, and fewer people coming into the country illegally because of current economic conditions. “For starters, the security of the Southwest border has been transformed from where it was in 2007,” Napolitano said. “The federal government has dedicated unprecedented resources to the Mexican border in terms of manpower, technology and infrastructure—and it’s made a real difference. “Compared to last year, seizures in all categories—drugs, smuggled cash, and illegal weapons—are up dramatically. For example, just looking at bulk cash, Customs and Border Protection has seized at the border more than $34 million in cash being smuggled southbound so far this year—more than four times as much as at this time last year. “Moreover, the immigration debate in 2007 happened during a period of historically high levels of illegal entry into the United States. Two years later, because of better enforcement and the current economic circumstances, those numbers have fallen sharply. The flow has reduced significantly – by more than half from the busiest years, proving we are in a much different environment than we were before. “These are major differences that should change the immigration conversation,” Napolitano said. The secretary said the Obama administration is “committed to this issue.” “When Congress is ready to act, we will be ready to support them,” Napolitano said. . --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Fwd: [I-S] Fort Hood Terrorist Sent Money to Pakistan
Fort Hood Terrorist Sent Money to Pakistan Congress has promised Pakistan $7.5 billion of our tax dollars over the next 5 years some people need killin' On Nov 14, 5:10 am, Bruce Majors majors.br...@gmail.com wrote: Fort Hood shooting suspect sent money to Pakistan, Texas congressman says 12:14 AM CST on Friday, November 13, 2009 By DAVE MICHAELS and LEE HANCOCK / The Dallas Morning News dmicha...@dallasnews.com dmichaels%40dallasnews.com lhanc...@dallasnews.com lhancock%40dallasnews.com An Austin congressman said Thursday that he has confirmed that Fort Hood massacre suspect Nidal Malik Hasan http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/Nidal_Malik_Hasan wired money to Pakistan, which Muslim extremist groups use as a base to raise funds and carry out terrorist attacks. Rep. Michael McCaul's statement followed a Dallas Morning News report that authorities were looking into whether such wire transfers had occurred. It also came as Army officials announced charges of premeditated murder against Hasan, who could face the death penalty. I have confirmed through independent sources that there were communications and wire transfers made to Pakistan, McCaul said in a prepared statement provided by his spokesman. This Pakistan connection just raises more red flags about this case and demonstrates why it's important for Congress http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/U.S._Congress to exercise its oversight authority. The spokesman, Mike Rosen http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/Mike_Rosen , said McCaul wouldn't name his sources. The congressman's statement didn't address who Hasan's contacts in Pakistan were, when he communicated with them or how much money he sent. McCaul is the top Republican http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/U.S._Republican_Party on the House Homeland Security Committee's intelligence subcommittee. He typically is briefed on classified material but had yet to be formally briefed on the Fort Hood killings. He has been actively seeking information from as many credible sources as possible, Rosen said. It has been more difficult than usual to obtain information from our intelligence community. Asked about McCaul's comments, an FBI http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/Federal_Bureau_of_Investigation spokesman in Washington said he couldn't comment on any aspect of the investigation. Evan Kohlmann, a terrorism expert who has consulted with the FBI and the Defense http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/US_Department_of_Defense Department, noted that Hasan is a U.S. citizen of Palestinian descent, with no known family ties to Pakistan. Kohlmann said that leaves only two reasons for the psychiatrist to wire money to the South Asian country: to support charity or to support jihad. Westerners who want to give to a legitimate Pakistani charity typically would do so by putting money in a U.S. or British bank account, he added. It raises huge alarm bells, Kohlmann said of Hasan's reported wire transfers. Pakistan borders Afghanistan, the country to which Hasan was supposed to deploy soon. Pakistan is battling a radical Islamic insurgency and is widely believed to be the hiding place of Osama bin Laden http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/Osama_bin_Laden . Following the money Dennis Lormel, a former FBI special agent who directed the agency's efforts to identify sources of terrorist financing, said investigators would take note of the large amount of disposable income Hasan apparently had. He made more than $90,000 a year, had no wife or dependents, and paid about $300 a month for a tiny apartment. It seems like there is a lifestyle that was beneath his means, said Lormel, now a managing director for IPSA International, a consultant to banks on combating money laundering. Where is the money going? Lormel said Hasan could have used several channels to wire money abroad, including remittance services that cater to immigrant workers who send money to their native countries. If that were the case, there may be documentation of the transaction, Lormel and others said. Banks and other money transmitters must tell the Treasury http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/United_States_Department_of_the_Tr... Department if an individual sends more than $10,000 outside the country. Kohlmann said only a breakdown could explain the FBI's failure to dig deeper when it discovered late last year that Hasan was communicating by e-mail with Anwar al-Awlaki http://topics.dallasnews.com/topic/Anwar_al-Awlaki , a radical cleric in Yemen. The U.S.-born imam exhorted Western Muslims in January to practice jihad - often translated as holy war - by donating money. Al-Awlaki worked several years ago at a northern Virginia mosque that Hasan and some of the 9/11 hijackers attended. Federal authorities have investigated the cleric's ties to terrorists since the 1990s but never brought charges against him. Everybody at the FBI knows who Anwar al-Awlaki is,
FW: [CCCC-USA] FYI
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Re: This is truly funny
both dems and repubs voted to invade the ME some people need killin' On Nov 14, 9:28 am, studio tl...@hotmail.com wrote: On Nov 13, 11:22 am, dick thompson rhomp2...@earthlink.net wrote: Now that Zero has caused our grandchildren and potentially our great-grandchildren to be saddled with tons of debt for decades to come and when the legislation now before the House and Senate will triple that debt, suddenly he wants to focus extensively on cutting the federal deficit in 2010. The mind boggles. What is he going to cut. Zero did that? I thought Bush Jr. started it up again? yep, I'm right, Bush Jr. did. Why cut anything? Do what Bush Jr. did and borrow it all. As a matter of fact, they might borrow everything they can, from everyone they can so that Republiturds won't get us in any more wars that have zero return on investment. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
FW: [CCCC-USA] ARE THE NANOCHIPS BURIED IN THE HEALTH CARE BILL???
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:30:13 -0800 From: therealbeadweaver2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [-USA] ARE THE NANOCHIPS BURIED IN THE HEALTH CARE BILL??? To: -...@yahoogroups.com; danielseig...@hotmail.com In “real world speak”, according to this report, this new law, when fully implemented, provides the framework for making the United States the first Nation in the World to require each and every one of its citizens to have implanted in them a radio-frequency identification (RFID) microchip for the purpose of controlling who is, or isn’t, allowed medical care in their country. Man, you read alot into that. first off, from what i READ, it says DEVICES and NOTHIGN about RFID. Yes, it DOES say that it includes IMPLANTED devices, but remember, a PACEMAKER is an implanted device. What this Section SAYS is that the FDA needs to better track the SAFETY of prostetics. Now, there is ONE set of words that bothers immensely in that Section... ‘‘(III)otherdataas theSecretary deems necessary to permit postmarket assessment of device safety and effectiveness; THAT is kind of openended, if you ask me. So yes, there ARE things to worry about in this bill, but the RFID is PROBABLY one of the smaller ones. From: ROSE KING bethetru...@yahoo.com To: -...@yahoogroups.com Cc: armageddon-or-new...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 1:31:29 PM Subject: [-USA] ARE THE NANOCHIPS BURIED IN THE HEALTH CARE BILL??? FROM BROTHER DR JAY. TAG YOU ARE IT...CHIPPED. ..THE DEVILS OWNED! OR ASK THIS, WOULD THE PEOPLE VOLUNTARILY TAKE THE MARK OF THE BEAST FROM THE ANTICHRIST- OBAMMA??? ? http://educate- yourself. org/cn/flushotsn ooker20nov04. shtml WAKE UP!! ! !! RK ~!~!~!~!~!~! ~!~!~!~!~ !~!~!~!~! ~!~!~! 11-13-09 Hello Everyone, This needs to go viral. http://www.hitachi. com/New/cnews/ 030902.html http://www.nvic. org/vaccine- laws/tracking- system-and- privacy/the- national- electronic- tracking- registry. aspx I have read the bill. On page 1001 you will find the clause that speaks to the implantable device(nanochip) . http://waysandmeans .house.gov/ media/pdf/ 111/AAHCA09001xm l.pdf Microchiping included in Healthcare Bill ? “Buried deep within the over 1,000 pages of the massive US Health Care Bill (PDF) in a “non-discussed” section titled: Subtitle C-11 Sec. 2521— National Medical Device Registry, and which states its purpose as: “The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that—‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and ‘‘(B) is a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable.” In “real world speak”, according to this report, this new law, when fully implemented, provides the framework for making the United States the first Nation in the World to require each and every one of its citizens to have implanted in them a radio-frequency identification (RFID) microchip for the purpose of controlling who is, or isn’t, allowed medical care in their country. Please spread this info far and wide. Implantable Radiofrequency Transponder System for Patient Identification and Health Information http://www.fda. gov/MedicalDevic es/DeviceRegulat ionandGuidance/ GuidanceDocument s/ucm072141. htm The “Death Chip” Blog: Catholic Prophecy Today ^ | 2009 | Rev. Joseph Dwight http://www.freerepu blic.com/ focus/f-chat/ 2375305/posts Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 8:58:06 AM by JosephJames “Microchip Implants Ready To Be Used With Swine Flu Vaccines - The Chip Is Located In The Tip Of The Needle”; … “Bird-Pig Flu, Desperate Military Weapon Against Americans”; “Injectable Microchips and Swine Flu Vaccinations; LIFE WITH BIG BROTHER; Next step in H1N1 scare: Microchip implants” … “The far left health care bill HR3200 is a non-discussed section titled National Medical Device Registry implantable device . Its at the end of the health care bill . Subtitle C-11 Sec 2521… The chip will be linked to database.”; … The leaders of the New World Order hope to be able to track every human being on the face of the earth directly by satellite. But the cell phone infrastructures and other technologies already in place would work just as well or could also be linked to satellite. … When, in the past, have governments ever prepared mass graves before an epidemic became a real problem? … “Swine flu mass graves planned for London”; “US swine flu mass graves planning”; … “Refusing Vaccination Labels You A 'Criminal', So Says W.H.O.” (July 30, 2009) “The World Health Organization determined in 2005 it has the authority to dissolve sovereign governments and take control should there be a “pandemic”. This applies to any country signed onto WHO….which of course we (U.S.) are. The WHO just raised this non-existent pandemic to level 4.”; … The
Re: This is truly funny
sorry stupio your talking point obfuscation doesn't work Bush and Obama are the same You Obamatards are Bushies it's just that your monkey is even worse On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:28 AM, studio tl...@hotmail.com wrote: On Nov 13, 11:22 am, dick thompson rhomp2...@earthlink.net wrote: Now that Zero has caused our grandchildren and potentially our great-grandchildren to be saddled with tons of debt for decades to come and when the legislation now before the House and Senate will triple that debt, suddenly he wants to focus extensively on cutting the federal deficit in 2010. The mind boggles. What is he going to cut. Zero did that? I thought Bush Jr. started it up again? yep, I'm right, Bush Jr. did. Why cut anything? Do what Bush Jr. did and borrow it all. As a matter of fact, they might borrow everything they can, from everyone they can so that Republiturds won't get us in any more wars that have zero return on investment. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: FW: [CCCC-USA] FYI
The following states rejected the amendment without ever subsequently ratifying it: Connecticut Rhode Island Utah The following states never took up the proposed amendment: Pennsylvania Virginia Florida On Nov 14, 11:50 am, Daniel Seigler danielseig...@hotmail.com wrote: this is about the ILLEGAL ratification of the 16th Amendment. Turns out it WASN'T ratified...now what? did YOUR State CORRECTLY ratify it? and if not, are you going to bring it to your State's attention? I am. Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:38:04 -0800 From: Subject: Fw: [-USA] FYI To: - Forwarded Message From: To: -...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 12:09:11 PM Subject: [-USA] FYI http://www.givemeliberty.org/ features/ taxes/notratifie d.htm __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group Messages in this topic (16) Recent Activity: Visit Your Group Start a New Topic What is The Answer To The Greatest Question?http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/097871461X?ie=UTF8seller=A1AVPSERX4... Click here to find out about Answer To The Greatest Question:http://reasonmustprevail.org/ orhttp://1smartest.net/ Visit the ultimate resource for defending liberty CLICK HERE:http://targetfreedom.typepad.com:80/ 1. Links to liberty defending organizations 2. Links to liberty defending web pages 3. Links to A MASSIVE assortment of liberty defending videos 4. A stream lined system for contacting legislators with suggested letters 5. Links to liberty defending egroups 6. Links to magazines, literature and other materials Are you looking for a book about defending liberty? Many rare and out of print books are still available. Look here:http://www.amazon.com/shops/jperna12 Then look here:http://astore.amazon.com/targetfreedom-20 Then look here:http://www.shopjbs.org/magento/ MARKETPLACE Parenting Zone: Your community resource for family and home Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use . __,_._,___ _ Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star.http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: This is truly funny
your monkey is even worse yep On Nov 14, 11:55 am, Bruce Majors majors.br...@gmail.com wrote: sorry stupio your talking point obfuscation doesn't work Bush and Obama are the same You Obamatards are Bushies it's just that your monkey is even worse On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:28 AM, studio tl...@hotmail.com wrote: On Nov 13, 11:22 am, dick thompson rhomp2...@earthlink.net wrote: Now that Zero has caused our grandchildren and potentially our great-grandchildren to be saddled with tons of debt for decades to come and when the legislation now before the House and Senate will triple that debt, suddenly he wants to focus extensively on cutting the federal deficit in 2010. The mind boggles. What is he going to cut. Zero did that? I thought Bush Jr. started it up again? yep, I'm right, Bush Jr. did. Why cut anything? Do what Bush Jr. did and borrow it all. As a matter of fact, they might borrow everything they can, from everyone they can so that Republiturds won't get us in any more wars that have zero return on investment. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Continental Congress
just in case you wanted to know what the REAL Congress is up to... Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:52:41 -0800 From: Subject: Fw: [-USA] Live from Continental Congress To: - Forwarded Message From: To: Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 3:12:07 PM Subject: [-USA] Live from Continental Congress --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Republic Magazine geo...@cdipublicati ons.com wrote: From: Republic Magazine geo...@cdipublicati ons.com Subject: Live from Continental Congress To: Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 5:06 PM Wow __! It's been a crazy and inspiring few days here at the Continental Congress here in Chicago. Kudos to those that opened my last email and got to watch the opening ceremony and the presentations thus far which have been stellar! We are streaming live from 8am to 7pm each day until the 22nd. Please forward on this email and spread the word... THIS IS HISTORIC! You can watch it at: www.freedom. tv/live Twitter it, forward it, post it! You can watch now LIVE! www.freedom. tv/live See you on the live stream. George P.S. http://www.freedom. tv/live CDI Publications, Inc., PO Box 9, Boynton Beach, FL 33435, USA __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity: Visit Your Group Start a New Topic What is The Answer To The Greatest Question? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/097871461X?ie=UTF8seller=A1AVPSERX4QF0Esn=jperna12 Click here to find out about Answer To The Greatest Question: http://reasonmustprevail.org/ or http://1smartest.net/ Visit the ultimate resource for defending liberty CLICK HERE: http://targetfreedom.typepad.com:80/ 1. Links to liberty defending organizations 2. Links to liberty defending web pages 3. Links to A MASSIVE assortment of liberty defending videos 4. A stream lined system for contacting legislators with suggested letters 5. Links to liberty defending egroups 6. Links to magazines, literature and other materials Are you looking for a book about defending liberty? Many rare and out of print books are still available. Look here: http://www.amazon.com/shops/jperna12 Then look here: http://astore.amazon.com/targetfreedom-20 Then look here: http://www.shopjbs.org/magento/ MARKETPLACE Parenting Zone: Your community resource for family and home Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use . __,_._,___ _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: FW: [CCCC-USA] ARE THE NANOCHIPS BURIED IN THE HEALTH CARE BILL???
illegal alien/criminals should be chipped On Nov 14, 11:51 am, Daniel Seigler danielseig...@hotmail.com wrote: Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:30:13 -0800 From: therealbeadweaver2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [-USA] ARE THE NANOCHIPS BURIED IN THE HEALTH CARE BILL??? To: -...@yahoogroups.com; danielseig...@hotmail.com In “real world speak”, according to this report, this new law, when fully implemented, provides the framework for making the United States the first Nation in the World to require each and every one of its citizens to have implanted in them a radio-frequency identification (RFID) microchip for the purpose of controlling who is, or isn’t, allowed medical care in their country. Man, you read alot into that. first off, from what i READ, it says DEVICES and NOTHIGN about RFID. Yes, it DOES say that it includes IMPLANTED devices, but remember, a PACEMAKER is an implanted device. What this Section SAYS is that the FDA needs to better track the SAFETY of prostetics. Now, there is ONE set of words that bothers immensely in that Section... ‘‘(III) other data as the Secretary deems necessary to permit postmarket assessment of device safety and effectiveness; THAT is kind of openended, if you ask me. So yes, there ARE things to worry about in this bill, but the RFID is PROBABLY one of the smaller ones. From: ROSE KING bethetru...@yahoo.com To: -...@yahoogroups.com Cc: armageddon-or-new...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 1:31:29 PM Subject: [-USA] ARE THE NANOCHIPS BURIED IN THE HEALTH CARE BILL??? FROM BROTHER DR JAY. TAG YOU ARE IT...CHIPPED. ..THE DEVILS OWNED! OR ASK THIS, WOULD THE PEOPLE VOLUNTARILY TAKE THE MARK OF THE BEAST FROM THE ANTICHRIST- OBAMMA??? ? http://educate-yourself. org/cn/flushotsn ooker20nov04. shtml WAKE UP!! ! !! RK ~!~!~!~!~!~! ~!~!~!~!~ !~!~!~!~! ~!~!~! 11-13-09 Hello Everyone, This needs to go viral. http://www.hitachi. com/New/cnews/ 030902.html http://www.nvic. org/vaccine- laws/tracking- system-and- privacy/the- national- electronic- tracking- registry. aspx I have read the bill. On page 1001 you will find the clause that speaks to the implantable device(nanochip) . http://waysandmeans.house.gov/ media/pdf/ 111/AAHCA09001xm l.pdf Microchiping included in Healthcare Bill ? “Buried deep within the over 1,000 pages of the massive US Health Care Bill (PDF) in a “non-discussed” section titled: Subtitle C-11 Sec. 2521— National Medical Device Registry, and which states its purpose as: “The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that—‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and ‘‘(B) is a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable.” In “real world speak”, according to this report, this new law, when fully implemented, provides the framework for making the United States the first Nation in the World to require each and every one of its citizens to have implanted in them a radio-frequency identification (RFID) microchip for the purpose of controlling who is, or isn’t, allowed medical care in their country. Please spread this info far and wide. Implantable Radiofrequency Transponder System for Patient Identification and Health Information http://www.fda. gov/MedicalDevic es/DeviceRegulat ionandGuidance/ GuidanceDocument s/ucm072141. htm The “Death Chip” Blog: Catholic Prophecy Today ^ | 2009 | Rev. Joseph Dwight http://www.freerepublic.com/ focus/f-chat/ 2375305/posts Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 8:58:06 AM by JosephJames “Microchip Implants Ready To Be Used With Swine Flu Vaccines - The Chip Is Located In The Tip Of The Needle”; … “Bird-Pig Flu, Desperate Military Weapon Against Americans”; “Injectable Microchips and Swine Flu Vaccinations; LIFE WITH BIG BROTHER; Next step in H1N1 scare: Microchip implants” … “The far left health care bill HR3200 is a non-discussed section titled National Medical Device Registry implantable device . Its at the end of the health care bill . Subtitle C-11 Sec 2521… The chip will be linked to database.”; … The leaders of the New World Order hope to be able to track every human being on the face of the earth directly by satellite. But the cell phone infrastructures and other technologies already in place would work just as well or could also be linked to satellite. … When, in the past, have governments ever prepared mass graves before an epidemic became a real problem? … “Swine flu mass graves planned for London”; “US swine flu mass graves planning”; … “Refusing Vaccination Labels You A 'Criminal', So Says W.H.O.” (July 30, 2009) “The World Health Organization determined in 2005 it has the authority to dissolve sovereign governments and take control should
Is seeking to be Presidential is Obama just unable to discern turth
The costs of an extended public show of decision-making is high... This is PR America does not need. http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/terrorwar/afghanistan_the_failure_t.php And for playing with “mere anarchy” you can’t find a better Petri dish than Afghanistan / Pakistan. Doing “something” in Afghanistan has no possible benefit for either anarchy or Obama. Anything that is “done” – be it sending in more troops or bringing troops out – only increases order and reduces entropy. Decisions, one way or another, direct management solutions. In Afghanistan as it is in America these days increased and directed management of problems decreases chaos and uncertainty. It is not an accident that all of Obama's domestic agenda involves replacing private sector management with government czars and bureaucracies. If your inner goal is the destruction of established systems of governance you will seek in increase chaos and uncertainty at every turn. This is exactly what we see in Obama’s personal style of what passes for “governance.” We do not have to intuit this. We need only observe and not deny the evidence of our senses. Veterans of dysfunctional corporations will recognize the Obama style as the one in which upper management is fond of giving middle management “All the responsibility, none of the authority, and zero resources.” It’s a time-tested recipe for failure and demoralization while maintaining an aloof, concerned, and above the fray posture on the part of the CEO. It is what is being done to the US military, day in and day out, in Afghanistan and, as such, works to Obama’s favor as long as it can be done slowly and without alarm. There are two benefits to Obama’s decision not to decide in Afghanistan: 1) It increases the instability of Pakistan and makes the likelihood of a radical Muslim coup in that country greater. This would, in one day, bring the control of nuclear weapons into radical Muslim hands. No waiting for Iran to get its act together. It also means that a vast sector of the world, from India to England falls under the spectre of a nuclear holocaust on a hair trigger. If you believe that great creation arises from great destruction, this is to your benefit. 2) It lowers the morale and effectiveness of the US military from the Joint Chiefs of Staff down to Private Grunt on patrol in Kandahar. Since the ultimate check to a politician’s power is always found in the military, anything that decreases that element is always to the politician’s benefit. If you can reduce the budget for the military at the same time you increase its responsibilities, so much the better. None of this makes much sense if your goal is the improvement of the nation you are sworn to protect and defend. If, however, your goal is to enter history at the level of an Alexander or a Caesar deciding not to decide is a decision you will implement for as long as possible. In this entropy is your friend especially if you know that for destruction ice / Is also great. You will be given a lot of time to decide not to decide as long as people on all sides of the poltical world continue to see you not as the political mutation you are but as the president you are not. http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/11/13/the-battle-of-the-irishmen/#more-6741 One of the real reasons why Kilcullen’s Habemus Pablum may be more correct than Andrew Sullivan’s Habemus Papa is that Barack Obama is reviewing his own policy. In March 2009 the long time critic of the White House during the Bush administration drew on his insights and an extensive policy review which he commissioned to announce his own Afghan Policy, which can viewed verbatim here. It begins with these dramatic words: Good morning. Today, I am announcing a comprehensive, new strategy for Afghanistan and Pakistan. This marks the conclusion of a careful policy review that I ordered as soon as I took office. My Administration has heard from our military commanders and diplomats. We have consulted with the Afghan and Pakistani governments; with our partners and NATO allies; and with other donors and international organizations. And we have also worked closely with members of Congress here at home. Now, I’d like to speak clearly and candidly to the American people. … So let me be clear … … has now subtly altered itself to ‘let me be clear that I am going to think carefully about revising my own plan’. Gerard Vanderleun observes that President Obama is being hailed in the left-wing blogosphere as a cool and supremely rational President who will not be rushed into doing anything but asks, how can we distinguish from mere dithering or worse, the infliction of a death by a thousand cuts on the US expeditionary enterprise? Veterans of dysfunctional corporations will recognize the Obama style as the one in which upper management is fond of giving middle management “All the responsibility, none of the authority, and zero resources.” It’s a
Re: Continental Congress
fringers without a clue http://www.republicmagazine.com On Nov 14, 11:56 am, Daniel Seigler danielseig...@hotmail.com wrote: just in case you wanted to know what the REAL Congress is up to... Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:52:41 -0800 From: Subject: Fw: [-USA] Live from Continental Congress To: - Forwarded Message From: To: Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 3:12:07 PM Subject: [-USA] Live from Continental Congress --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Republic Magazine geo...@cdipublicati ons.com wrote: From: Republic Magazine geo...@cdipublicati ons.com Subject: Live from Continental Congress To: Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 5:06 PM Wow __! It's been a crazy and inspiring few days here at the Continental Congress here in Chicago. Kudos to those that opened my last email and got to watch the opening ceremony and the presentations thus far which have been stellar! We are streaming live from 8am to 7pm each day until the 22nd. Please forward on this email and spread the word... THIS IS HISTORIC! You can watch it at:www.freedom. tv/live Twitter it, forward it, post it! You can watch now LIVE!www.freedom. tv/live See you on the live stream. George P.S.http://www.freedom. tv/live CDI Publications, Inc., PO Box 9, Boynton Beach, FL 33435, USA __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity: Visit Your Group Start a New Topic What is The Answer To The Greatest Question?http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/097871461X?ie=UTF8seller=A1AVPSERX4... Click here to find out about Answer To The Greatest Question:http://reasonmustprevail.org/ orhttp://1smartest.net/ Visit the ultimate resource for defending liberty CLICK HERE:http://targetfreedom.typepad.com:80/ 1. Links to liberty defending organizations 2. Links to liberty defending web pages 3. Links to A MASSIVE assortment of liberty defending videos 4. A stream lined system for contacting legislators with suggested letters 5. Links to liberty defending egroups 6. Links to magazines, literature and other materials Are you looking for a book about defending liberty? Many rare and out of print books are still available. Look here:http://www.amazon.com/shops/jperna12 Then look here:http://astore.amazon.com/targetfreedom-20 Then look here:http://www.shopjbs.org/magento/ MARKETPLACE Parenting Zone: Your community resource for family and home Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use . __,_._,___ _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Is seeking to be Presidential is Obama just unable to discern turth
fuck the ME and everyone in the US who is using our tax dollars and soldiers on those animals Warmongers Beware! On Nov 14, 12:03 pm, jgg1000a jgg1...@hotmail.com wrote: The costs of an extended public show of decision-making is high... This is PR America does not need. http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/terrorwar/afghanistan_the_failu... And for playing with “mere anarchy” you can’t find a better Petri dish than Afghanistan / Pakistan. Doing “something” in Afghanistan has no possible benefit for either anarchy or Obama. Anything that is “done” – be it sending in more troops or bringing troops out – only increases order and reduces entropy. Decisions, one way or another, direct management solutions. In Afghanistan as it is in America these days increased and directed management of problems decreases chaos and uncertainty. It is not an accident that all of Obama's domestic agenda involves replacing private sector management with government czars and bureaucracies. If your inner goal is the destruction of established systems of governance you will seek in increase chaos and uncertainty at every turn. This is exactly what we see in Obama’s personal style of what passes for “governance.” We do not have to intuit this. We need only observe and not deny the evidence of our senses. Veterans of dysfunctional corporations will recognize the Obama style as the one in which upper management is fond of giving middle management “All the responsibility, none of the authority, and zero resources.” It’s a time-tested recipe for failure and demoralization while maintaining an aloof, concerned, and above the fray posture on the part of the CEO. It is what is being done to the US military, day in and day out, in Afghanistan and, as such, works to Obama’s favor as long as it can be done slowly and without alarm. There are two benefits to Obama’s decision not to decide in Afghanistan: 1) It increases the instability of Pakistan and makes the likelihood of a radical Muslim coup in that country greater. This would, in one day, bring the control of nuclear weapons into radical Muslim hands. No waiting for Iran to get its act together. It also means that a vast sector of the world, from India to England falls under the spectre of a nuclear holocaust on a hair trigger. If you believe that great creation arises from great destruction, this is to your benefit. 2) It lowers the morale and effectiveness of the US military from the Joint Chiefs of Staff down to Private Grunt on patrol in Kandahar. Since the ultimate check to a politician’s power is always found in the military, anything that decreases that element is always to the politician’s benefit. If you can reduce the budget for the military at the same time you increase its responsibilities, so much the better. None of this makes much sense if your goal is the improvement of the nation you are sworn to protect and defend. If, however, your goal is to enter history at the level of an Alexander or a Caesar deciding not to decide is a decision you will implement for as long as possible. In this entropy is your friend especially if you know that for destruction ice / Is also great. You will be given a lot of time to decide not to decide as long as people on all sides of the poltical world continue to see you not as the political mutation you are but as the president you are not. http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/11/13/the-battle-of-the... One of the real reasons why Kilcullen’s Habemus Pablum may be more correct than Andrew Sullivan’s Habemus Papa is that Barack Obama is reviewing his own policy. In March 2009 the long time critic of the White House during the Bush administration drew on his insights and an extensive policy review which he commissioned to announce his own Afghan Policy, which can viewed verbatim here. It begins with these dramatic words: Good morning. Today, I am announcing a comprehensive, new strategy for Afghanistan and Pakistan. This marks the conclusion of a careful policy review that I ordered as soon as I took office. My Administration has heard from our military commanders and diplomats. We have consulted with the Afghan and Pakistani governments; with our partners and NATO allies; and with other donors and international organizations. And we have also worked closely with members of Congress here at home. Now, I’d like to speak clearly and candidly to the American people. … So let me be clear … … has now subtly altered itself to ‘let me be clear that I am going to think carefully about revising my own plan’. Gerard Vanderleun observes that President Obama is being hailed in the left-wing blogosphere as a cool and supremely rational President who will not be rushed into doing anything but asks, how can we distinguish from mere dithering or worse, the infliction of a death by a thousand cuts on the US expeditionary
It's time Obama apologizes to the Barbary Pirates
Click here: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/11/its_time_obama_apologizes_to_t.htmlhttp://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/11/its_time_obama_apologizes_to_t.html ** *It's time Obama apologizes to the Barbary Pirates* ** It’s about time President Obama apologizes for a former president’s meddling in the affairs of Morocco. From the 11th - 19th Centuries, the Barbary Pirates operated out of Tunis, Tripoli, Algiers, Sale and other ports in Morocco raiding mostly western European ships along that portion of the shores of North Africa called the Barbary Coast. From the 16th - 19th Centuries they also took hundreds of thousands of Europeans as slaves. The Barbary Pirates demanded tribute, and the European powers paid it. Back in 1785, John Adams, then America’s Ambassador to England, and Thomas Jefferson, Ambassador to France, met with the envoy from Tripoli, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman, and inquired as to why American ships were targets of hostility. The answer they received was this: “It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every Muslim who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once.” (Sourcehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War) Until its independence was secured, American ships were generally protected by first the British, and then the French. Once the former colonies were an independent nation, America was on its own. In 1801, President Jefferson received a message from Tripoli demanding an immediate tribute payment of $225,000, along with annual payments of $25,000. The First Barbary War (1801-1805) was eventually followed by the Second Barbary War (1815). During the First Barbary War, Commodore John Rodgers led an American fleet that threatened to capture Tripoli. Rodgers warned that he would remove the current Tripoli pasha from his throne and replace him with his brother. The threat worked. In order to facilitate a long overdue apology to Morocco, here’s a statement that David Axelrod and Rahm Emanuel should pass on to Obama for his immediate reading to the world. (Before reading, cue background music herehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiGPQVUJqq0 .) “In the early 19th Century one of my predecessors, Thomas Jefferson, ill-advisedly meddled in the affairs of the duly designated government of the sovereign nation of Morocco, specifically its city of Tripoli, by threatening to remove its leadership if he, the pasha of Tripoli, did not comply with demands issued by the U.S. Navy. I sincerely regret this event, particularly in light of it coming in the wake of the West’s unjustified and hegemonistic intrusion into the Middle East in the form of the Christian Crusades from 1095-1291. It should never too late for a great power to say ‘I’m sorry.’ So today, on behalf of the American people, I, Barack Hussein Obama, President of the United States of America, say to all the descendents of the pasha of Tripoli and to the descendents of the Barbary Pirates, ‘I apologize for our meddling in Morocco’s affairs and our intrusion onto the shores of Tripoli.’” Of course, the United States Marine Corps might have a slightly different view on this. ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** *.* __._,_.___ Reply to senderazgopg...@aol.com?subject=it's+time+Obama+apologizes+to+the+Barbary+Pirates| Reply to groupgathering_conservatives_news_gr...@yahoogroups.com?subject=it's+time+Obama+apologizes+to+the+Barbary+Pirates Messages in this topichttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Gathering_Conservatives_News_Group/message/69849;_ylc=X3oDMTM3c2d1dWRpBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE5MDUwMjMwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTY3Njk2NARtc2dJZAM2OTg0OQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzEyNTgyMTU0MzUEdHBjSWQDNjk4NDk-( 1) Recent Activity: Visit Your Grouphttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Gathering_Conservatives_News_Group;_ylc=X3oDMTJmbWdsaWQwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE5MDUwMjMwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTY3Njk2NARzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzEyNTgyMTU0MzU- Start a New Topichttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Gathering_Conservatives_News_Group/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJmbTg4MGNyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE5MDUwMjMwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTY3Njk2NARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzEyNTgyMTU0MzU- MARKETPLACE Parenting Zone: Find useful resources for a happy, healthy family and homehttp://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=14khe0nu3/M=493064.12016295.13793596.10835568/D=groups/S=1705676964:MKP1/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1258222636/L=/B=a4HDLESO5_A-/J=1258215436024085/K=ab3IalvFRmkXEzNJ7smPrw/A=5898843/R=0/SIG=11kkq36go/*http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/parentingzone/ [image: Yahoo!
OBAMA LIED: FATHER A VIOLENT DRUNK
Click here: OBAMA LIED: FATHER A VIOLENT DRUNK | The Last Crusadehttp://thelastcrusade.org/2009/11/14/obama-lied-father-a-violent-drunk/ ** * “DREAMS OF MY VIOLENT DRUNKARD FATHER” thelastcrusade.org Our alcoholic father beat me, says Barack Obama's half brother, Mark As the US President arrives in China, Barack Obama's half brother reveals that when he was a child their father was a violent drunk Telegraph News Sources On the eve of his older sibling's first-ever visit to China, Mark Okoth Obama Ndesandjo has emerged from the shadows to reveal the disturbing truth about the late Barack Obama Sr, his and President Obama's father.Last week, Mr Ndesandjo published an autobiographical novel, Nairobi to Shenzhen: A Tale of Love In The East . * __._,_.___ Reply to senderazgopg...@aol.com?subject=obama+lied:+FATHER+A+VIOLENT+DRUNK| Reply to groupgathering_conservatives_news_gr...@yahoogroups.com?subject=obama+lied:+FATHER+A+VIOLENT+DRUNK Messages in this topichttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Gathering_Conservatives_News_Group/message/69872;_ylc=X3oDMTM3aDVyMm1jBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE5MDUwMjMwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTY3Njk2NARtc2dJZAM2OTg3MgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzEyNTgyMzE1NzgEdHBjSWQDNjk4NzI-( 1) Recent Activity: Visit Your Grouphttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Gathering_Conservatives_News_Group;_ylc=X3oDMTJma2g2MTUzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE5MDUwMjMwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTY3Njk2NARzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzEyNTgyMzE1Nzg- Start a New Topichttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Gathering_Conservatives_News_Group/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJmNGMwMHFmBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE5MDUwMjMwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTY3Njk2NARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzEyNTgyMzE1Nzg- MARKETPLACE Mom Power: Discover the community of moms doing more for their families, for the world and for each otherhttp://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=14k6p2mkn/M=493064.12016295.13793596.10835568/D=groups/S=1705676964:MKP1/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1258238778/L=/B=K814MkSO5.w-/J=1258231578832332/K=kmj0MqCMn3B1UOUhF3CC1w/A=5697381/R=0/SIG=11eaa5dke/*http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mompowergroup/ [image: Yahoo! Groups]http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJlOTg1ZzkwBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzE5MDUwMjMwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTY3Njk2NARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTI1ODIzMTU3OA-- Switch to: Text-Onlygathering_conservatives_news_group-traditio...@yahoogroups.com?subject=change+delivery+format:+Traditional, Daily Digestgathering_conservatives_news_group-dig...@yahoogroups.com?subject=email+delivery:+Digest• Unsubscribegathering_conservatives_news_group-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com?subject=unsubscribe• Terms of Use http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . __,_._,___ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: This Healthcare Debate Has Been a Real Eye-Opener for Me...
Luis, Supposedly 85% (85 people) have insurance and 15% (15 people) don't. If an average of one person with insurance pays $400 a month, then you expect each of the 85% (every insured adult and every insured child) to cough up $6,000 a month for the other 15% (uninsured people)? The few dollars you are talking about comes to $70.58 extra for every insured person to pay... every month. A family of four would be expected to pay $282.35 in addition to their own $1600.00 monthly insurance premiums. I think NOT!!! Perhaps you wouldn't mind paying what you are trying to shame ME into paying. After all, Luis, it's a few more dollars in taxes. Shame on YOU for being self-centered soulless scum. Get yourself another job and put your money where your mouth is. Hypocrite! Everyone in America has health care. If you have a hang nail, sniffles, bruise, broken arm, rash, fever, blister, labor pain, stab or gunshot wound, or whatever. you can go to many medical clinics and any county hospital. Lie about your income and it's all free. That's where the tax money already goes to for people without insurance. Taxpayers are ALREADY supplying and paying for it. From: Zebnick zebn...@gmail.com To: PoliticalForum politicalforum@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 5:01:23 PM Subject: Re: This Healthcare Debate Has Been a Real Eye-Opener for Me... You forgot to call us Nazis, sexists and homophobes, you mutation of nature. On Nov 11, 4:02 pm, CaliforniaLuis rivcu...@gmail.com wrote: It has showed me that your average Republican/conservative would let a sick child or person die simply because they weren't able to afford health insurance. Why? Because they don't want to pay a few dollars more in taxes. In the meantime, they are living their gluttonous, materialistic lives. Conservatives/Republicans are truly self- centered, soulless scum. They are grand hypocrites, have phony moral values and their so- called Christianity is nothing more than a farce. Shame on you people! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Fwd: Giuliani Slams Obama Move for 9/11 Trials in NY
Not much support for Zero here, I can tell - and I agree with them. Original Message Subject:Giuliani Slams Obama Move for 9/11 Trials in NY Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:12:33 GMT From: Newsmax.com news...@reply.newsmax.com Reply-To: news...@reply.newsmax.com To: rhomp2...@earthlink.net rhomp2...@earthlink.net *Breaking from Newsmax.com* * Giuliani: Obama’s 9/11 Trials Decision Will Lead to More Terrorism http://news.newsmax.com/?KKCvYNeuS6HVLx86vUNTXvX16DrzxJUAKhttp://www.newsmax.com/headlines/giuliani_Khalid_Sheikh_ny/2009/11/13/286215.html?s=alpromo_code=9125-1 Rep. Peter King Disgusted by 9/11 Trials in NY http://news.newsmax.com/?S64vXNnaHkYau38DvUNTavY1ztlktfR1Shttp://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/king_terror_trial_nyc/2009/11/14/286219.html?s=alpromo_code=9125-1 Special: Sarah Palin’s New Book, Free Offer! http://news.newsmax.com/?K64RXWeaSkXuQxCDQkwTxRY16tlzxJUAKhttp://w3.newsmax.com/a/sarahbook/?s=alpromo_code=9125-1 McCain Rips Obama over 9/11 Trials Decision http://news.newsmax.com/?S64vXNnaHkYau38DvUNTavY1ztlktfR1Shttp://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/mccain_obama_terror_trial/2009/11/13/286216.html?s=alpromo_code=9125-1 Walid Phares: Obama Ignores Domestic Terrorism http://news.newsmax.com/?S64vXNnaHkYau38DvUNTavY1ztlktfR1Shttp://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/walid_phares_fort_hood/2009/11/14/286256.html?s=alpromo_code=9125-1 Timmerman: Sarkozy Confronts Radical Islam Head-On http://news.newsmax.com/?K64RYNeuSzXjut4kANNixUXBz3rktJRAKhttp://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/?s=alpromo_code=9125-1 More Links: Doctor Exposes Cholesterol Fraud http://news.newsmax.com/?S64vYWnaHkYVQx5DRWtTxvYZexlztfUAShttp://w3.newsmax.com/blaylock/44a.cfm?s=alpromo_code=9125-1 Become an Automatic Millionaire, Secret Recipe Works http://news.newsmax.com/?K6CRXWnaKz1uPx4zvkwIXI1BnxlkxfRAKhttp://w3.newsmax.com/newsletters/franklin/offer2.cfm?s=alpromo_code=9125-1 Middle Aged Blindness Is Epidemic, Stop It http://news.newsmax.com/?S6CRYWnu-z1jPx4zvUpCVI1Z6xrktfU1Shttp://w3.newsmax.com/blaylock/23a.cfm?s=alpromo_code=9125-1 * Forward to a Friend http://news.newsmax.com/default.aspx?SZCvXWeaHkHuux4zANtTxRX1z3rktJUAS This e-mail is never sent unsolicited. You have received this *Newsmax* e-mail because you subscribed to it or someone forwarded it to you. To opt out, see the links below. *TO ADVERTISE* For information on advertising, please contact Newsmax Advertising Sales http://news.newsmax.com/?S64vYWna-zYVP356ANNTxvY16xlztfU1Shttp://w3.newsmax.com/emailform.cfm?recipient=Ad%20Copy via e-mail. *TO SUBSCRIBE* If this e-mail has been forwarded to you and would like a subscription, please sign up here http://news.newsmax.com/?K6CvYNnaKk1VuD4DvWNIVvX1z3rzxJUAKhttp://w3.newsmax.com/emails/nm_signup.cfm. Remove http://news.newsmax.com/?K64RXNeuSkXjPtCzRWNTxRX1z3rkxJUAKhttp://w3.newsmax.com/emails/profile/index.cfm?email_address=rhomp2...@earthlink.netesp_job_id=773464 your e-mail address from our list or modify http://news.newsmax.com/?K64RXNeuSkXjPtCzRWNTxRX1z3rkxJUAKhttp://w3.newsmax.com/emails/profile/index.cfm?email_address=rhomp2...@earthlink.netesp_job_id=773464 your profile. We respect your right to privacy. View http://news.newsmax.com/?K6CvYNnaKk1VuD4DvWNIVvX1z3rzxJUAKhttp://www.newsmax.com/privacy/ our policy. This e-mail was sent by: *Newsmax.com* 4152 West Blue Heron Blvd., Ste. 1114 Riviera Beach, FL 33404 USA 773464 9125-1 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Fwd: Giuliani Slams Obama Move for 9/11 Trials in NY
it's the single biggest mistake Zero has made it's might be the cause of his political downfall those terrorists should be in a military jail being tortured for more information and then executed On Nov 14, 6:18 pm, dick thompson rhomp2...@earthlink.net wrote: Not much support for Zero here, I can tell - and I agree with them. Original Message Subject: Giuliani Slams Obama Move for 9/11 Trials in NY Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:12:33 GMT From: Newsmax.com news...@reply.newsmax.com Reply-To: news...@reply.newsmax.com To: rhomp2...@earthlink.net rhomp2...@earthlink.net *Breaking from Newsmax.com* * Giuliani: Obama’s 9/11 Trials Decision Will Lead to More Terrorism http://news.newsmax.com/?KKCvYNeuS6HVLx86vUNTXvX16DrzxJUAKhttp://www... Rep. Peter King Disgusted by 9/11 Trials in NY http://news.newsmax.com/?S64vXNnaHkYau38DvUNTavY1ztlktfR1Shttp://www... Special: Sarah Palin’s New Book, Free Offer! http://news.newsmax.com/?K64RXWeaSkXuQxCDQkwTxRY16tlzxJUAKhttp://w3 McCain Rips Obama over 9/11 Trials Decision http://news.newsmax.com/?S64vXNnaHkYau38DvUNTavY1ztlktfR1Shttp://www... Walid Phares: Obama Ignores Domestic Terrorism http://news.newsmax.com/?S64vXNnaHkYau38DvUNTavY1ztlktfR1Shttp://www... Timmerman: Sarkozy Confronts Radical Islam Head-On http://news.newsmax.com/?K64RYNeuSzXjut4kANNixUXBz3rktJRAKhttp://www... More Links: Doctor Exposes Cholesterol Fraud http://news.newsmax.com/?S64vYWnaHkYVQx5DRWtTxvYZexlztfUAShttp://w3 Become an Automatic Millionaire, Secret Recipe Works http://news.newsmax.com/?K6CRXWnaKz1uPx4zvkwIXI1BnxlkxfRAKhttp://w3 Middle Aged Blindness Is Epidemic, Stop It http://news.newsmax.com/?S6CRYWnu-z1jPx4zvUpCVI1Z6xrktfU1Shttp://w3 * Forward to a Friend http://news.newsmax.com/default.aspx?SZCvXWeaHkHuux4zANtTxRX1z3rktJUAS This e-mail is never sent unsolicited. You have received this *Newsmax* e-mail because you subscribed to it or someone forwarded it to you. To opt out, see the links below. *TO ADVERTISE* For information on advertising, please contact Newsmax Advertising Sales http://news.newsmax.com/?S64vYWna-zYVP356ANNTxvY16xlztfU1Shttp://w3 via e-mail. *TO SUBSCRIBE* If this e-mail has been forwarded to you and would like a subscription, please sign up here http://news.newsmax.com/?K6CvYNnaKk1VuD4DvWNIVvX1z3rzxJUAKhttp://w3. Remove http://news.newsmax.com/?K64RXNeuSkXjPtCzRWNTxRX1z3rkxJUAKhttp://w3.newsma x.com/emails/profile/index.cfm?email_address=rhomp2...@earthlink.netesp_job_id=773464 your e-mail address from our list or modify http://news.newsmax.com/?K64RXNeuSkXjPtCzRWNTxRX1z3rkxJUAKhttp://w3.newsma x.com/emails/profile/index.cfm?email_address=rhomp2...@earthlink.netesp_job_id=773464 your profile. We respect your right to privacy. View http://news.newsmax.com/?K6CvYNnaKk1VuD4DvWNIVvX1z3rzxJUAKhttp://www... our policy. This e-mail was sent by: *Newsmax.com* 4152 West Blue Heron Blvd., Ste. 1114 Riviera Beach, FL 33404 USA 773464 9125-1 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OBAMA LIED: FATHER A VIOLENT DRUNK
wait til the truth comes out about his mother! On Nov 14, 2:50 pm, Bruce Majors majors.br...@gmail.com wrote: Click here: OBAMA LIED: FATHER A VIOLENT DRUNK | The Last Crusadehttp://thelastcrusade.org/2009/11/14/obama-lied-father-a-violent-drunk/ ** * “DREAMS OF MY VIOLENT DRUNKARD FATHER” thelastcrusade.org Our alcoholic father beat me, says Barack Obama's half brother, Mark As the US President arrives in China, Barack Obama's half brother reveals that when he was a child their father was a violent drunk Telegraph News Sources On the eve of his older sibling's first-ever visit to China, Mark Okoth Obama Ndesandjo has emerged from the shadows to reveal the disturbing truth about the late Barack Obama Sr, his and President Obama's father.Last week, Mr Ndesandjo published an autobiographical novel, Nairobi to Shenzhen: A Tale of Love In The East . * __._,_.___ Reply to senderazgopg...@aol.com?subject=obama+lied:+FATHER+A+VIOLENT+DRUNK| Reply to groupgathering_conservatives_news_gr...@yahoogroups.com?subject=obama+lied:+FATHER+A+VIOLENT+DRUNK Messages in this topichttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Gathering_Conservatives_News_Group/mess...( 1) Recent Activity: Visit Your Grouphttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Gathering_Conservatives_News_Group;_ylc... Start a New Topichttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Gathering_Conservatives_News_Group/post... MARKETPLACE Mom Power: Discover the community of moms doing more for their families, for the world and for each otherhttp://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=14k6p2mkn/M=493064.12016295.13793596.1083... [image: Yahoo! Groups]http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJlOTg1ZzkwBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycEl... Switch to: Text-Onlygathering_conservatives_news_group-traditio...@yahoogroups.com?subject=change+delivery+format:+Traditional, Daily Digestgathering_conservatives_news_group-dig...@yahoogroups.com?subject=email+delivery:+Digest• Unsubscribegathering_conservatives_news_group-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com?subject=unsubscribe• Terms of Use http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . __,_._,___ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: It's time Obama apologizes to the Barbary Pirates
Of course, the United States Marine Corps might have a slightly different view on this. --- I doubt it. On Nov 14, 1:34 pm, Bruce Majors majors.br...@gmail.com wrote: Click here:http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/11/its_time_obama_apologizes...http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/11/its_time_obama_apologizes... ** *It's time Obama apologizes to the Barbary Pirates* ** It’s about time President Obama apologizes for a former president’s meddling in the affairs of Morocco. From the 11th - 19th Centuries, the Barbary Pirates operated out of Tunis, Tripoli, Algiers, Sale and other ports in Morocco raiding mostly western European ships along that portion of the shores of North Africa called the Barbary Coast. From the 16th - 19th Centuries they also took hundreds of thousands of Europeans as slaves. The Barbary Pirates demanded tribute, and the European powers paid it. Back in 1785, John Adams, then America’s Ambassador to England, and Thomas Jefferson, Ambassador to France, met with the envoy from Tripoli, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman, and inquired as to why American ships were targets of hostility. The answer they received was this: “It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every Muslim who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once.” (Sourcehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War) Until its independence was secured, American ships were generally protected by first the British, and then the French. Once the former colonies were an independent nation, America was on its own. In 1801, President Jefferson received a message from Tripoli demanding an immediate tribute payment of $225,000, along with annual payments of $25,000. The First Barbary War (1801-1805) was eventually followed by the Second Barbary War (1815). During the First Barbary War, Commodore John Rodgers led an American fleet that threatened to capture Tripoli. Rodgers warned that he would remove the current Tripoli pasha from his throne and replace him with his brother. The threat worked. In order to facilitate a long overdue apology to Morocco, here’s a statement that David Axelrod and Rahm Emanuel should pass on to Obama for his immediate reading to the world. (Before reading, cue background music herehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiGPQVUJqq0 .) “In the early 19th Century one of my predecessors, Thomas Jefferson, ill-advisedly meddled in the affairs of the duly designated government of the sovereign nation of Morocco, specifically its city of Tripoli, by threatening to remove its leadership if he, the pasha of Tripoli, did not comply with demands issued by the U.S. Navy. I sincerely regret this event, particularly in light of it coming in the wake of the West’s unjustified and hegemonistic intrusion into the Middle East in the form of the Christian Crusades from 1095-1291. It should never too late for a great power to say ‘I’m sorry.’ So today, on behalf of the American people, I, Barack Hussein Obama, President of the United States of America, say to all the descendents of the pasha of Tripoli and to the descendents of the Barbary Pirates, ‘I apologize for our meddling in Morocco’s affairs and our intrusion onto the shores of Tripoli.’” Of course, the United States Marine Corps might have a slightly different view on this. ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** *.* __._,_.___ Reply to senderazgopg...@aol.com?subject=it's+time+Obama+apologizes+to+the+Barbary+Pirates| Reply to groupgathering_conservatives_news_gr...@yahoogroups.com?subject=it's+time+Obama+apologizes+to+the+Barbary+Pirates Messages in this topichttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Gathering_Conservatives_News_Group/mess...( 1) Recent Activity: Visit Your Grouphttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Gathering_Conservatives_News_Group;_ylc... Start a New Topichttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Gathering_Conservatives_News_Group/post... MARKETPLACE Parenting Zone: Find useful resources for a happy, healthy family and homehttp://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=14khe0nu3/M=493064.12016295.13793596.1083... [image: Yahoo! Groups]http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJlMWhwY2lxBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycEl... Switch to: Text-Onlygathering_conservatives_news_group-traditio...@yahoogroups.com?subject=change+delivery+format:+Traditional, Daily Digestgathering_conservatives_news_group-dig...@yahoogroups.com?subject=email+delivery:+Digest•
Re: Sarah Socialist Barracuda Palin
Republicans were in control of Congress for the last 12 years You're an uninformed RETARD. Period. End of discussion. On Nov 13, 9:02 pm, studio tl...@hotmail.com wrote: On Nov 13, 2:45 pm, LadybugsTX ladybug...@cox.net wrote: By the way, Republican policies weren't the only thing that hosed our economy today. The catalyst of the mess we are in today was caused by Democrat policies of the previous 8 years. The mess Bush inherited. It just took that long for it to catch up with us. lol...yeah right...FYI, Republicans were in control of Congress for the last 12 years and had a President for 8 of them. And no, there won't be a majority Republican Congress or a Republican President for many years to come precisely because of that. If there was a mess Democrats left behind, it was immediately addressed by Bush Jr. boosting the defense budget by 100% pre 9-11, and ignoring whatever problems you thought were left behind. Bush Jr. then pointed out proudly how there was more new home ownership during his administration than at any time before him...thus justifying his phony economic policies which left the US with trillions in debt. Notice how the Bush/Obama stimulus equaled the war spending... one good debt deserves another. You wanna' go down that road, you got it, don't be surprised about it. Hell, most Republicans are in complete denial they were ever in charge of anything at all. Zero accountablitity...another propaganda lie they put over on you. If you ask for the American people to sacrifice, and at the same time isolate and insulate the rich, don't be surprised if you create needs amongst the poor. Almost makes me wish for the prosperous balanced budget times of Clinton...but those days were gone as soon as Bush Jr. started spending on things that have next to zero return on investment. You see, what the Republicans don't tell you about their rich people economics is that they invest in International endeavors, not in the US. And that's why so many people are unemployed and had 4 years of negative savings rates only seen since the Great Depression. Republicans could care less about Americans, and indeed wage war on them in favor of foreigners who don't pay any taxes to the US. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Sarah Socialist Barracuda Palin
YOU SAID HILLARY WOULD DO A BETTER JOB .YOU FORGOT BILLY BOB STARTED THIS WITH NAFTA THIS IS THE SAME PEOPLE PULLING THE SAME STRINGS . NEVER VOTE FOR THE SAME PERSON TWICE .LET THEM LIVE UNDER THE SAME LAWS THEY PASS .HO MY BE THEN THEY WOULD READ THE BILLS THEY VOTE ON On Nov 13, 5:46 pm, Bruce Majors majors.br...@gmail.com wrote: 58% Say Next President Likely To Be Republican Sunday, November 08, 2009 [image: Email a Friend] Email to a Friendhttp://www.rasmussenreports.com/content/tipafriend/24640 ShareThis Advertisement Fifty-eight percent (58%) of likely voters say it is at least somewhat likely the next president of the United States will be a Republican, according to the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. The number has been trending in this direction since Democrat Barack Obama took office in January and is up 14 points since then. Thirty-one percent (31%) of voters see it as Very Likely that the next president will be a Republican. The survey was taken on Tuesday and Wednesday nights of this past week, but the question did not specify whether the next president will be elected in 2012 or 2016. Republicans recaptured the governorships of New Jersey and Virginia in elections on Tuesday *(Want a **free daily e-mail update*http://visitor.constantcontact.com/email.jsp?m=1102135387545%252526p=... *? If it's in the news, it's in our polls).* Rasmussen Reports updates are also available on Twitter http://twitter.com/RasmussenPoll or Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/pages/Asbury-Park-NJ/Rasmussen-Reports/869591... . Just 29% of voters now say it is not very or not at all likely the next president will be from the GOP, the lowest level found all year and down nine points from January. Sixty-six percent (66%) of men expect the next president to be a Republican, compared to 52% of women. Eighty-five percent (85%) of Republicans see a member of their party winning the presidency as likely, including 57% who see it as very likely. Sixty percent (60%) of voters not affiliated with either major party think they're right, but just 31% of Democrats agree. Looking less far ahead, a plurality (49%) of voters now say it is at least somewhat likely that Republicans will win control of Congress next yearhttp://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_polit Fifty-two percent (52%) say Republicans are the party most likely to gain seats in Congress in next year’s mid-term elections. However, 73% of GOP voters think members of their party in Congress have lost touch with Republican voters throughout the nationhttp://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_polit... .** Fifty-five percent (55%) of all voters expect politics in Washington, D.C. to become more partisan over the next yearhttp://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_ameri Forty-eight percent (48%) think passing good legislation is a more important role for Congress that preventing bad legislation from becoming law. But nearly as many voters (46%) believe it’s more important for Congress to stop bad bills before they’re passed into law.http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_polit... Forty-five percent (45%) of adults say they would be at least somewhat likely to vote for Obama if he was up for reelection right now. Forty-nine percent (49%) say they would be unlikely to vote for the president’s reelection.http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_adminis... Recent polling also shows that 27% of voters think Hillary Clinton would be doing a better job as presidenthttp://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_polit... than Obama while 49% say she would be performing about the same. Please sign up for the Rasmussen Reports daily e-mail update http://www.rasmussenreports.com/daily_updates(it’s free) or follow us on Twitter http://twitter.com/RasmussenPoll or Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/pages/Asbury-Park-NJ/Rasmussen-Reports/869591 Let us keep you up to date with the latest public opinion news. See survey questions and toplineshttp://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/toplines/pt_s... . Crosstabshttp://www.rasmussenreports.com/premium_content/political_tracking_cr... are available to Premium Membershttp://www.rasmussenreports.com/premium_service_description only. ShareThis Rasmussen Reports is an electronic publishing firm specializing in the collection, publication, and distribution of public opinion polling information. The Rasmussen Reports Election Edge™http://www.rasmussenreports.com/premium_service_description Premium Service offers the most comprehensive public opinion coverage available anywhere. Scott Rasmussen, president of Rasmussen Reports, has been an independent pollster for more than a decade. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 2:23 PM, studio tl...@hotmail.com wrote: Since the US has all this
Re: Sarah Socialist Barracuda Palin
Holly, So what are you saying! The fact that the twin towers were brought down by terrorists is a lie and that chumps like you, Obama and his ilk are turncoat against your fellow Americans is not valid. No, no chump,! It is valid. This makes you the idiot liar you quisling jarhead. ** On Nov 14, 9:36 am, Hollywood jims29...@gmail.com wrote: Sgae2, Oh no, there's no need to expend any more of your precious energy, I'm already convinced your an idiot as well as a liar. On Nov 13, 11:22 pm, Sage2 wisdom...@gmail.com wrote: Is that as fast as the Twin Towers that guys like Hassan brought down, or is it as fast as you and your liberal friends turned coat on the side of thre terrorists and against your American countrymen? ***** On Nov 13, 10:58 pm, Hollywood jims29...@gmail.com wrote: Sage2, Give up while your ahead kiddo. You're IQ, and credibility, is going down faster than a bottle of vodka at Courtney Love's house. On Nov 13, 8:54 pm, Sage2 wisdom...@gmail.com wrote: Holly, Studio's envy of Sarah has been noted just as Muslim envy of the west has been noted. He could be named Hassan ! *** On Nov 13, 9:50 pm, Hollywood jims29...@gmail.com wrote: Sage2, That could be considered somewhat clever.but only if you were 9 years old. I mean physically instead of emotionally intellectually. On Nov 13, 8:39 pm, Sage2 wisdom...@gmail.com wrote: Studio, Is your last name Hassan ? ** * On Nov 13, 9:06 pm, studio tl...@hotmail.com wrote: On Nov 13, 2:42 pm, plainolamerican plainolameri...@gmail.com wrote: your envy of Sarah has been noted I hope my justice, equality for all (and not just for her), and non- hypocrisy has been noted as well. You sure as hell wouldn't be seeing any of that from her.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Sarah Socialist Barracuda Palin
On Nov 14, 11:00 pm, Zebnick zebn...@gmail.com wrote: Republicans were in control of Congress for the last 12 years You're an uninformed RETARD. Period. End of discussion. Another Republitard debater. 1995-2007 Majority leaders: Dick Armey, Tom Delay, Roy Blunt, John Boehner. 1995-2007 Speakers of the House: Newt Gingrich and Dennis Hasert. 1995-2007 = 12 years in control. 2001-2009 President of the United States = George Bush Jr. 8 years in control. It doesn't help to be in denial of who was in charge, it just makes you look retarded. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of PoliticalForum at Google Groups. For options help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
