Re: this may get you into a gym

2011-09-10 Thread Keith In Tampa
That's hilarious!  Thanks for sharing Bruce!!




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Fwd: [grendelreport] The First Black President

2011-09-10 Thread Bruce Majors
 

It's hard to believe that Pryor did this video skit 32 years ago.
Better than brilliant!

Check this out! See the parallel between this skit and President
Obama, years later. This classic was filmed 32 years ago; little did
we know...

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=-_cdbByTeNE




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First Black President

2011-09-10 Thread Bruce Majors
 

It's hard to believe that Pryor did this video skit 32 years ago.
Better than brilliant!

Check this out! See the parallel between this skit and President
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we know...

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=-_cdbByTeNE




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Re: Stop scaring Americans about terrorist attacks!

2011-09-10 Thread Bruce Majors
spelling brought to you by the educrat cartel

On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Stephen Stink  wrote:

> You mean ass warfare! Every tea fag is an ass!
> H! Socialist elitist?  is that like A Capitalist commoner? I saw
> the Koch brothers
> at a Dairy Queen without bodygrauds! NOT! Their not elitist!
> The fuck they aint!
> WhE!!!
>
> On Sep 9, 4:32 pm, Keith In Tampa  wrote:
> > Nothing like a little class warfare to stir the pot, by the far left
> > socialist-elitists like Lil' Stevie!
> >
> > Talk about Fear-Mongering!
> No socialist every ask me to take off my shoes at a airport you moron!
> >
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this may get you into a gym

2011-09-10 Thread Bruce Majors
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVc04znrjP4&feature=player_embedded

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I don't care about...

2011-09-10 Thread Stephen Stink
Islam, Illegal ailiens, gay's getting married, rich pigs getting
taxed, or liberals taking away guns from white trash.
I care about Rich pigs owning the government and creating a corporate
police state.With rich white racist pigs killing poor people! Welcome
to the Disney World Order!
WhEE!!!

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Re: Stop scaring Americans about terrorist attacks!

2011-09-10 Thread Stephen Stink
You mean ass warfare! Every tea fag is an ass!
H! Socialist elitist?  is that like A Capitalist commoner? I saw
the Koch brothers
at a Dairy Queen without bodygrauds! NOT! Their not elitist!
The fuck they aint!
WhE!!!

On Sep 9, 4:32 pm, Keith In Tampa  wrote:
> Nothing like a little class warfare to stir the pot, by the far left
> socialist-elitists like Lil' Stevie!
>
> Talk about Fear-Mongering!
No socialist every ask me to take off my shoes at a airport you moron!
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> > Wheee
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Second Amendment, and The Bill of Rights on the chopping block?

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Re: Fwd: [PAG] 'Cyber 9/11': Serious Risk Or Inflated Threat?

2011-09-10 Thread Keith In Tampa
Well said Mark!




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Re: Fwd: [PAG] 'Cyber 9/11': Serious Risk Or Inflated Threat?

2011-09-10 Thread THE ANNOINTED ONE
No threat can be serious enough to lose one more iota of my guaranteed
but now ignored rights. When will people wake up??


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fyi

2011-09-10 Thread Bruce Majors
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Re: Michelle Malkin Is Upset

2011-09-10 Thread GregfromBoston
She's hot too

On Sep 9, 1:39 pm, Sage2  wrote:
> On Sep 9, 1:04 pm, MJ  wrote:
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>      Michelle Malkin ( as usual ) is spot on , while Laurence Vance
> has his head up where the sun don't shine.
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> ***­
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> > Michelle Malkin Is UpsetPosted byLaurence Vanceon September 9, 2011 10:07 AM
> > She is upset about anew pollreleased this week showing that Americans today 
> > "are generally more willing to believe that U.S. policies in the Middle 
> > East might have motivated the 9/11 terror attacks on New York and the 
> > Pentagon."
> > I don't think I need to say that this comes as no surprise since she is one 
> > of the conservative movement's finest bloodthirsty warmongers.
> > xxxAll the Wrong 9/11 Lessonsby Michelle Malkin
> > 09/09/2011
> > Are your kids learning the right lessons about 9/11? Ten years after Osama 
> > bin Laden's henchmen murdered thousands of innocents on American soil, too 
> > many children have been spoon-fed the thin gruel of progressive political 
> > correctness over the stiff antidote of truth.
> >    
> > "Know your enemy, name your enemy" is a 9/11 message that has gone 
> > unheeded. Our immigration and homeland security policies refuse to profile 
> > jihadi adherents at foreign consular offices and at our borders. Our 
> > military leaders refuse to expunge them from uniformed ranks until it's too 
> > late (see: Fort Hood massacre). The j-word is discouraged in Obama 
> > intelligence circles, and the term "Islamic extremism" was removed from the 
> > U.S. national security strategy document last year.
> >    
> > Similarly, too many teachers refuse to show and tell who the perpetrators 
> > of 9/11 were and who their heirs are today. My own daughter was one year 
> > old when the Twin Towers collapsed, the Pentagon went up in flames and 
> > Shanksville, Pa., became hallowed ground for the brave passengers of United 
> > Flight 93. In second grade, her teachers read touchy-feely stories about 
> > peace and diversity to honor the 9/11 dead. They whitewashed Osama bin 
> > Laden, militant Islam and centuries-old jihad out of the curriculum. 
> > Apparently, the youngsters weren't ready to learn even the most basic 
> > information about the evil masterminds of Islamic terrorism.
> >    
> > Mary Beth Hicks, author of the new book "Don't Let the Kids Drink the 
> > Kool-Aid," points to a recent review of 10 widely used textbooks in which 
> > the concepts of jihad and sharia were either watered down or absent. These 
> > childhood experts have determined that grade school is too early to delve 
> > into the specifics of the homicidal clash of Allah's sharia-avenging 
> > soldiers with the freedom-loving Western world.
> >    
> > Yet, many of the same protectors of fragile elementary-school pupils can't 
> > wait to teach them all the ins and outs of condoms, cross-dressers and 
> > crack addictions.
> >    
> > We pulled our daughter out of a cesspool of academic and moral relativism 
> > and found a reality-grounded, rigorous charter school where no-nonsense 
> > teachers refuse to sugarcoat inconvenient facts and history. Many of the 
> > students are children of soldiers and servicemen and women who -- inspired 
> > by the heroes of 9/11 -- have voluntarily deployed time and time again to 
> > kill the American Dream destroyers abroad before they kill us over here.
> >    
> > There's no better way to hammer home the message that "freedom is not free" 
> > than to have your kids go to school with other kids whose dads and moms are 
> > gone for years at a time -- missing births and birthday parties, recitals 
> > and soccer practice, Christmas pageants and Independence Day fireworks.
> >    
> > But instead of unfettered pride in our armed forces, social justice 
> > educators in high schools and colleges across the country indoctrinate 
> > American students into viewing our volunteer armed forces as victims, 
> > monsters and pawns in a leftist "social struggle."
> >   
> > A decade after the 9/11 attacks, Blame America-ism still permeates 
> > classrooms and the culture. A special 9/11 curriculum distributed in New 
> > Jersey schools advises teachers to "avoid graphic details or dramatizing 
> > the destruction" wrought by the 9/11 hijackers, and instead focus 
> > elementary school students' attention on broadly defined "intolerance" and 
> > "hurtful words."
> >    
> > No surprise: Jihadist utterances such as "Kill the Jews," "Allahu Akbar" 
> > and "Behead all those who insult Islam" are not among the "hurtful words" 
> > studied.
> >    
> > Middle-schoolers are directed to "analyze diversity and prejudice in U.S. 
> > history." And high-school students are taught "Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs" 
> > - pop-psychology claptrap used to excuse jihadists' behavior based on their 
> > purported low self-este

Fwd: [I-S] Hats off to Sherry Hackett

2011-09-10 Thread Bruce Majors
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Sherry Hackett, wife of the late Buddy Hackett, is a dyed-in-the-wool
Democrat. I would think that many other Democrats share her position...
This was written by …. Sherry Hackett, Buddy Hackett's widow

"WE NOTICED"… President Obama:

Today I read of your administrations' plan to re-define September 11 as
a National Service Day. …. Sir, it's time we had a talk.

During your campaign, Americans watched as you made mockery of our
tradition of standing and crossing your heart when the Pledge of Allegiance
was spoken. You, out of four people on the stage, were the only one not
honoring our tradition. …. YES, "We noticed."

During one of your many speeches, Americans heard you say that you
intended to visit all 57 states. We all know that Islam, not America has
57 states…. YES, "We noticed."



When President Bush leaned over at Ground Zero and gently placed a
flower on the memorial, while you nonchalantly tossed your flower onto
the pile without leaning over….. YES, "We noticed."

Every time you apologized to other countries for America 's position on
an issue we have wondered why you don't share our pride in this great
country.. When you have heard foreign leaders berate our country and our

beliefs, you have not defended us. In fact, you insulted the British Crown
beyond belief. …. YES, "We noticed."

When your pastor of 20 years, "God-damned America " and said that
9/11 was " America 's chickens coming home to roost" and you denied
having heard recriminations of that nature, we wondered how that could
be. You later disassociated yourself from that church and Pastor Wright
because it was politically expedient to do so…. YES, "We noticed."

When you announced that you would transform America , we wondered
why. With all her faults, America is the greatest country on earth.
Sir, KEEP THIS IN MIND, "if not for America and the people who built
her, you wouldn't be sitting in the White House now." Prior to your
election to the highest office in this Country, you were a senator from
Illinois and from what we can glean from the records available, not a
very remarkable one…. YES, "We noticed."

All through your campaign and even now, you have surrounded
yourself with individuals who are basically unqualified for the
positions for which you appointed them. Worse than that, the majority
of them are people who, like you, bear no special allegiance, respect, or
affection for this country and her traditions. …. YES, "We noticed."

You are 24 months into your term and every morning millions of Americans
wake up to a new horror heaped on us by you. You seek to saddle working
Americans with a health care/insurance reform package that, along with cap
and trade, will bankrupt this nation. …YES, "We noticed."

We seek, by protesting, to let our representatives know that we are not
in favor of these crippling expenditures and we are labeled "un-American",
"racist", "mob". We wonder how we are supposed to let you know how
frustrated we are. You have attempted to make our protests seem isolated
and insignificant. Until your appointment, Americans had the right to speak
out. …. YES, "We noticed."

On September 11, 2001 there were no Republicans or Democrats, only
Americans. And we all grieved together and helped each other in whatever
way we could. The attack on 9/11 was carried out because we are Americans.

And YES, "We noticed…"

There were many of us who prayed that as a black president you could help
unite this nation. In six months you have done more to destroy this nation
than the attack on 9/11. You have failed us. …. YES, "We noticed."

September 11 is a day of remembrance for all Americans. You propose to
make 9/11 a "National Service Day". While we know that you don't share
our reverence for 9/11, we pray that history will report your proposal as
what it is, a disgrace. …. YES, "We noticed."

You have made a mockery of our Constitution and the office that you hold.
You have embarrassed and slighted us in foreign visits and policy.

…. YES, "We noticed."

We have noticed all these things. We will deal with you. When Americans
come together again, it will be to remove you from office. Do Take notice.

If you agree with this, please pass it on. If not, I'm sorry.





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Fwd: [PAG] 'Cyber 9/11': Serious Risk Or Inflated Threat?

2011-09-10 Thread Bruce Majors
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_'Cyber 9/11': Serious Risk Or Inflated Threat?_
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Who Really Kept Us Safe After 9/11

2011-09-10 Thread MJ



Who Really Kept Us Safe After
9/11
The truth about homeland security

Steve Chapman | September 8, 2011
If there was any certainty in the weeks and months after the 9/11
attacks, it was that these were just the first in a campaign of terror on
American soil. "You can just about bet on it," said Sen.
Richard Shelby (R-Ala.), the ranking Republican on the Intelligence
Committee. New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani said, "I anticipate another
attack."
Gary Stubblefield, who directed the Naval Special Warfare Task Unit in
the Pacific area, asserted that, as The Denver Post paraphrased,
"the question is not if but when dozens of terrorist cells in the
United States will unleash biological, chemical and perhaps nuclear
weapons against U.S. cities." FBI Director Robert Mueller estimated
the U.S. harbored "several hundred" extremists affiliated with
Al Qaeda.
Americans had seen in Israel how a homegrown terrorist movement was able
to kill hundreds of people with suicide bombings and other attacks. It
seemed we could expect the same. A comment often heard was, "We are
all Israelis now."
But the predictions have not come true. There have been very few attacks
in this country by Islamic extremists­and nothing remotely on the scale
of 9/11. The "sleeper cells" proved to be mostly
nonexistent.
This surprising record has been attributed to excellent work by the FBI,
CIA, and other law enforcement agencies, the war in Afghanistan, and the
Bush administration's aggressive treatment of suspected terrorists. But
on the list of those deserving credit, the first is a group hardly anyone
would have predicted: American Muslims.
Millions of Muslims live in the United States. Had even a tiny percentage
been radicalized enough to commit violence, they could have done immense
damage. Despite all the efforts to upgrade security at a few crucial
sites, it really wouldn't be hard for any group to kill lots of
people.
A car bomb in a stadium parking lot, a couple of semi-automatic rifles in
a shopping mall, a Molotov cocktail in a crowded bus, a bomb on a
railroad track, a runaway pickup on a city sidewalk­there's an endless
list of easy pickings.
There are too many targets to secure them all. It would have been a
simple task for a handful of minimally trained volunteers to keep us in a
constant state of fear.
But the volunteers, with rare exceptions, didn't come forward. Charles
Kurzman, a sociologist at the University of North Carolina at Chapel
Hill, writes in Foreign Policy magazine that "approximately a
dozen people in the country were convicted in the five years after 9/11
for having links with al-Qaida" and "fewer than 40 Muslim
Americans planned or carried out acts of domestic
terrorism."
That may sound like a lot, until you remember that there are 15,000
murders a year in this country. A report from the Rand Corp., a national
security think tank, noted that of 83 terrorist attacks that took place
between 9/11 and the end of 2009, only three "were clearly connected
with the jihadist cause." Three!
We hear a lot of allegations of radical American imams preaching jihad.
If so, they are not getting through. The simple fact is that most
American Muslims don't sympathize with religious extremism and almost
none are willing to practice it.
And why should they be? According to a recent poll by the Pew Research
Center, "They are overwhelmingly satisfied with the way things are
going in their lives (82 percent) and continue to rate their communities
very positively as places to live (79 percent excellent or
good)."
Suicide bombers may proliferate in places where followers of Islam feel
oppressed­as many living under Arab dictators do, as many living under
Israeli control do. But worldwide, says Kurzman, global Islamic extremist
organizations have been able to recruit "fewer than one out of every
100,000 Muslims since 9/11." Islam is not particularly fertile
ground for growing terrorists.
That's especially true in the land of the free. Despite the suspicions
they face from some of their fellow citizens, American Muslims clearly
value what America offers them. They like living in a democracy that
respects their rights. People with good lives are not inclined to throw
them away in grisly acts of violence.
A decade ago, American Muslims were called by our enemies to rise up and
slaughter their fellow citizens. Al Qaeda must be wondering why it never
heard back.

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The Freedoms Defended Since 9/11

2011-09-10 Thread MJ



The Freedoms Defended Since
9/11
by Anthony Gregory, September 9, 2011
“Freedom itself was attacked this morning by a faceless coward,” said
George W. Bush on September 11, 2011. “And freedom will be defended.”

President Obama apparently agrees that the U.S. government’s response to
9/11 has been to defend freedom. This past Memorial Day he announced,
“From Gettysburg to Kandahar, America’s sons and daughters have served
with honor and distinction, securing our liberties and laying a
foundation for lasting peace.” 
We might wonder which freedoms the U.S. government, under both Bush and
Obama, has defended since 9/11. 
It doesn’t appear to be the First Amendment’s freedoms of speech and
association. Otherwise it would be hard to explain the National Security
Letters that forbid their recipients from telling anyone, even a lawyer
or spouse, that the FBI is monitoring them. It would be difficult to
understand the Bush administration’s “free speech zones” that kept war
protesters far from presidential appearances, or U.S. spying on peace
activists under both administrations. It would be perplexing that Obama
would detain Bradley Manning for the crime of releasing incriminating
information about the U.S. warfare state, or that his administration’s
officials would hint that WikiLeaks’s project of exposing government
wrongdoing should be shut down. 
Maybe the government has mostly been protecting Americans’ right to be
free from unreasonable searches and seizures. Then again, it would be
confusing that both Bush and Obama would stand by the USA PATRIOT Act,
which has eroded the Fourth Amendment, forced businesses to spy on their
customers and hand information over to the Justice Department, loosened
restrictions for wiretapping, and empowered agents to conduct special
searches without alerting Americans right away that their property had
been searched. It would also be a mystery why both Bush and Obama have
stood by the National Security Administation’s power to spy on American
telecommunications without a warrant. Then there is the whole question of
the Transportation Security Administration, which summarily searches
American airline passengers, their luggage, and their persons, forcing
them to go through invasive pat-downs and potentially dangerous
irradiating “porno-scanners.” 
Perhaps the freedom being defended is the long-celebrated right to due
process and habeas corpus for those detained by the government. That
would be hard to reconcile, however, with the Bush administration’s
roundup of hundreds of innocent aliens right after 9/11, the “material
witness” doctrine that allowed for indefinite detention without charge,
or the “enemy combatant” designation that, when pinned on someone by the
president, even on a U.S. citizen, means there will be a total disregard
for traditional due process. It would certainly make a puzzle out of
Guantanamo, where some detainees have been determined innocent of all
wrongdoing but are nevertheless kept detained; and it would be hard to
make sense of the military commissions that deprive subjects of both the
standard protections of criminal suspects or those of prisoners of war.
The secret evidence used in many cases in the last ten years certainly
seems to be in tension with the right to confront one’s accuser and the
evidence laid against one. And Obama’s very concept of “prolonged
detention” and his administration’s fighting the courts on numerous
habeas corpus cases are a little bit of an enigma if indeed the right to
due process is what our leaders have in mind when they’re waging these
wars for our freedoms. 
Maybe it’s the right not to be subject to cruel and unusual punishment
that Bush and Obama have been defending! Although that would seem to be
in conflict with the mistreatment of whisteblower Bradley Manning, the
abuse that continues at Guantanamo, the waterboarding of Khalid Sheikh
Mohammed, and the psychological and sexual abuse that became a regular
interrogation practice throughout Iraq and other U.S.-controlled areas at
the height of the war on terror. 
Other freedoms that haven’t seemed to be enhanced, much less defended by
the war on terrorism, include the right to travel, financial freedom, the
right to bear arms, and the right to a fair civil proceeding against
government agents who have violated one’s liberties. Economic freedom
hasn’t exactly blossomed since 9/11. Come to think of it, most of the
freedoms that have been held as sacred for so long in this country aren’t
exactly easy targets for terrorists to undermine in the first place; free
speech, due process, privacy, and other such civil liberties are much
easier for governments to compromise than for terrorists to take away.

But there is a class of people whose freedom has surely been strengthened
since 9/11, as a direct consequence of the wars fought abroad. That would
be people at the top of the executive branch, and especially presidents
themselves. 
The right of the president to wage war u

Could the Presidential Election Turn On a Dime?

2011-09-10 Thread MJ



Could the Presidential Election Turn On a
Dime?
(Not if the WaPo Banksters Have Their
Way)
by Bill Watkins
On Wednesday night during the debate among GOP Presidential
candidates at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library, some Establishment
candidates were yammering on about the high price of gasoline under the
Obama administration, and how they would rectify that situation if they
were elected President.
And then it happened. A "game changer" moment that could
transform the entire election, or perhaps American history, irrespective
of the election results. Ron Paul had the impertinence to point out to a
national audience that gasoline could actually be purchased RIGHT NOW for
a mere ten cents per gallon! 
Really? Now? Where? Congressman Paul explained that a SILVER dime is
currently worth over $3.00, which is nearly enough to buy a gallon of
petrol in the U.S. You remember those

Mercury head dimes, don’t you? What ever happened to those? And, come
to think of it, why doesn’t a dime minted in 2011 buy a gallon of gas?

Admittedly, it’s a simple question. And that why it’s so dangerous. This
line of thinking simply can’t be allowed to gain traction. It’s crazy
talk by Ron Paul who stubbornly clings to a bygone era of monetary policy
(including relevant clauses of the Constitution) and who simply doesn’t
comprehend the modern wonders of "quantitative easing." Move
along citizens, there’s nothing here to see. Got it? 
That’s the thrust of an

editorial written by Charles Lane and published in the WaPo on the
morning immediately following the debate. Egad, the idea of SILVER
currency is s "18th century" according to Lane. Never mind
that dimes, quarters and half dollars minted by the U.S. government were
comprised of at least
90% silver for
the entire 19th century and for nearly 65 years of the 20th century too
(i.e. until 1964). Mr. Lane apparently wasn’t aware of such recent
history. 
Or was he? Of all the debate moments to critique, why did the WaPo deem
it necessary to challenge this one particular point that was made so well
by Ron Paul? Hmmm, let’s see now. Why on earth would the WaPo attempt to
ridicule anyone who poses a threat to the power structure that depends on
the depredations of the FED? What animus could the WaPo possibly have
against a 10 term Congressman who wrote a book entitled,

End the Fed, and whose son was recently elected as a U.S.
Senator? 
Perhaps the WaPo editorial attack on Ron Paul can be explained by the
following additional facts, which have previously been

pointed out by Lew Rockwell, and which reveal the true agenda of the
Establishment and their paymasters (the Banksters) who are terrified that
the American public might actually begin to wonder who is responsible for
the ongoing monetary devaluation that Ron Paul illustrated with such
devastating effect during the debate: 

The present publisher of The Post, Ms. Weymouth, is
granddaughter of Katherine Graham (known as Katherine the Great), and
great-granddaughter of Eugene Meyer, who bought The Post out of
bankruptcy in 1933, and who was …. 

….. wait for it … 

Chairman of the Federal Reserve and the first head of the World Bank.



Mr. Meyer was succeeded in this last post by John J. McCloy, later
chairman of the Rockefeller's Chase Manhattan Bank, the Council on
Foreign Relations, the Ford Foundation, and key member of the Warren
Commission. He was widely regarded by wags in the know as "the
Chairman of the Establishment." 
Ms. Weymouth’s grandfather, Philip Graham, succeeded her great
grandfather, Mr. Meyer, as publisher of The Post in 1946, and was married
to Mr. Meyer’s daughter, Katherine. The Graham’s used to put on famous
Georgetown soirees for the Beltway elites in journalism, intelligence
circles, and the upper ranks of the Washington Nomenclatura, described in
Hugh Wilford's book The Mighty Wurlitzer: How the CIA Played America. 
The term "the mighty Wurlitzer," coined by high level CIA
official Frank Wisner, was used to describe the elaborate covert networks
of propaganda, deception, and media manipulation sponsored by the Agency.
A key player in this campaign of Cold War subterfuge and deceit was
"the Golden Boy"­ Washington Post publisher Phil Graham (the
husband of Katherine -- and Eugene Meyer's son-in-law), who later
committed suicide (although some informed observers, such as the
distinguished award-winning journalist and historian Sterling Seagrave,
believe otherwise). 
With a pedigree like that, it begins to make sense why the WaPo
simply couldn’t allow Ron Paul to speak the truth about our ongoing money
devaluation without being given the "treatment". Former WaPo
writer, Carl Bernstein, in his famous Rolling Stone article,
The CIA
and the Media, gave a further glimpse into the pedigree behind the
WaPo propaganda platform that Ms Weymouth inherited, which he described
as follows:

"When Newsweek was purchased by the Washington Post Company,
publisher Philip L. Graham was informed by Agency officia

Ten Years Later… We’re Still Paying the Price

2011-09-10 Thread MJ



Ten Years Later… We’re Still Paying the
Price
by Bob Bauman
What to say, on this tenth anniversary, about the horrible
events that occurred on that beautiful, sunny autumn morning of September
11, 2001 – “9/11? as it is now universally known?
Listen to Edmund Burke, speaking in 1715: “No passion so effectively robs
the mind of all its powers of acting and reasoning as fear.”
Our second President, John Adams, warned: “Fear is the foundation of
governments.”
Yes, of course – most rational human beings want to feel safe and be
secure. But with bipartisan agreement among the politicians, our fears
have been exploited, dumping hundreds of billions of tax dollars into the
bureaucratic maw under the banner of “homeland security.”
What has 9/11 wrought?
Over the past decade a new and alarming system of government mass
surveillance has been erected, and we know very little about it.
The massive Department of Homeland Security (DHS), an unnecessary
conglomeration of 22 agencies and nearly 200,000 employees, together with
an out of control FBI and CIA, engage in massive surveillance of all of
us, not just suspected terrorists or criminals.
Our phone calls, our emails and website visits, our financial records,
our travel itineraries, and our digital images captured on powerful
surveillance cameras are adding to the mountains of data being mined for
suspicious patterns and associations.
Osama Bin Laden Is Dead… But in Too Many Ways He Died
Victorious
When Osama bin Laden caused those airplanes to kill civilians 10
years ago, he took a lot more from the United States of America than the
lives of more than 3,000 of our fellow citizens and residents.
Within a matter of days, if not hours, eager American politicians adopted
fear as their continuing motif, justifying the sacrifice of our
constitutional rights and liberties as the price of alleged
safety.
The centerpiece of their opportunistic politics is the grotesquely named
PATRIOT
Act that has destroyed personal and financial privacy in America,
rendering meaningless much of the hard won Bill of Rights we had honored
for the last 220 years.
Yet most Americans have been all too willing to purchase that illusive
security without regard for its cost in terms of lost personal freedom
and liberties.
In an interview on the National Geographic Channel last week,
George W. Bush says his most painful memory of that day was seeing the
horror of people falling or jumping to their deaths from the Twin Towers
and knowing there was nothing he could do to help them.
It would be useless for an interviewer to ask Mr. Bush what he thinks
about what he and his successor in the White House, the constitutional
law professor, Barack Obama, have done to the Constitution and the Bill
of Rights. In pursuit of both terrorists and common criminals, Obama has
perpetuated so many of the Bush administration’s wrongful policies that
their policies are indistinguishable in the destruction of civil
liberties.
The inimitable Oscar Wilde wrote:
“Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes.”
As we observe the 10th anniversary of 9/11 this Sunday, the people of
the United States have every reason to question whether their “leaders”
really have learned anything from those thousands of needless deaths and
the events of ensuing years.
Yet our leaders have sacrificed the very principles that they claimed to
be defending.
I was one of the millions of horrified Americans watching television when
United Airlines flight 175 crashed into the South Tower of the World
Trade Center at 9:02:59 a.m., on 9/11/2001.
After my sensations of horror, disbelief, anger, sorrow for the victims,
my friend and former House colleague, U.S. Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, spoke
for me in expressing my troubled thoughts:

“Times of tragedy and war naturally bring out strong emotions…
Sometimes people are only too anxious to sacrifice their constitutional
liberties during a crisis, hoping to gain some measure of security. Yet
nothing would please terrorists more than if we willingly gave up our
cherished liberties because of their actions.”
Sad to say, Ron Paul’s prediction has come to pass in too many ways.
A short six weeks after the 9/11 attacks, a panicked U.S. Congress
adopted the so-called “USA PATRIOT Act.”
In my view, that “law” is the single most egregious example of an
unconstitutional law ever enacted by Congress. I have spent 10 years
chronicling the offenses that have been committed by U.S. government
agents in its name.
So Who Is Winning – Freedom or Terrorism?
This raises the question… just how far are Americans willing to go in
surrendering their liberty and their privacy? How much are we willing to
pay for this promised, illusory defense? Are we willing to become
Fortress America with Big Brother watching and listening to all that we
say and do?
Americans had better put aside politically inspired fears, and start
asking and answering that question – before we enjoy neither safety nor
liberty.
More than one milli

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I was waiting for something about Washington or Lincoln ... etc.  he
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Fwd: [New post] Premonition?

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Premonition? 

Dr. Eowyn  |
September 10, 2011 at 5:00 am | Tags: 9-11 <
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Willie Gardner 
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Terrorism , United
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This is NOT a painting commemorating 9-11.

Instead, it's a chalk drawing that was created by a Scotsman, Willie
Gardner, more than 10 years before 9-11 -- in the 1980s.

Martin Robinson reports <
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for the UK's Daily Mail, Sept. 9, 2011, that the decades-old drawing is
displayed in the reception of the Community Education Unit (CEU) in
Grangemouth, Stirlingshire, Scotland. The drawing shows a forlorn young girl
flanked by two jet planes and twin towers. The falling locks of the child's
hair spiralling downwards, look like fire and smoke billowing into the sky
from one of the towers.

The drawing looks so much like 9/11 that people viewing the picture in the
CEU thought it was a tribute to those who had perished in the New York
terror attacks.

But Lex Cook of the CEU said he first saw the drawing 2 or 3 years before
9-11: "It was maybe 1988 or 1989 that I first saw Willie's drawing. The boss
here at the time liked it and Willie kindly gave it to him for the centre."

The artist's daughter, Aileen Currie, 53, said she does know the drawing was
done years before the twin towers were destroyed, and that while her father
had artistic talent, he had no ability to see into the future.

The artist, Willie Gardner, died on November 27 last year at the age of 78,
making it impossible to know exactly what inspired him.

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Why Do Our Rulers Hate America?

2011-09-10 Thread MJ



Tuesday, September 12, 2006
Why Do Our Rulers Hate America? 
If you're in a fight with a really nasty guy
who's attacked you without provocation, and your antagonist lands a solid
punch, what is your reaction (assuming that you're hurt without being
incapacitated)?
Do you:
a) Let out a loud groan as the blow connects, falling to your knees while
complaining piteously about the unfairness of it all;
or
b) Shake it off and try to put the scumbag down?
If the answer is “a,” you're either a professional wrestler trying to
“sell” a phony punch or (what's much the same thing) William Shatner at
his Virginia-cured, uninhibited best in a vintage Star Trek fight
scene.
Or, to extend the principle just a bit, you're one of the people
responsible for orchestrating yesterday's
repulsive
festival of collective self-pity. 
If you're in a genuine fight for your life, the last thing you want to do
is display vulnerability and weakness – which is exactly what our nation
was told to do in memory of 9-11. 
The official narrative of yesterday's 9/11+5 events runs like this:
We are a good and compassionate nation attacked without warning,
provocation, or cause five years ago by people who irrationally hate us
for our decency. That Enemy still seeks to destroy us and is stealthily
acquiring the means to do so – and only by taking shelter in the heroic
shadow of our

Dear Leader, and making his will our law, can we be safe.
The whole two-day event was an American transliteration of similar
rituals enacted in totalitarian states from Nazi Germany to Stalin's USSR
to contemporary North Korea. It was vulgar and nauseating. And this
exercise in choreographed collective lachrymosity illustrated – to me, at
least – that we really don't confront an existential threat from a
formidable foreign Enemy.
Assuming that we've been told any part of the truth about what happened
five years ago today, and what is still going on today, there are legions
of Evil-Doers lurking out at the tenebrous fringes of the Empire whose
every waking moment is consumed with the desire to kill all of us they
can in order to terrorize the rest. 
Inflicting pain and terror on Americans, we are told, is the enemy's very
meat and drink – the main course at every repast, and the desert after
every meal.
Why, then, are our masters so determined to provide that enemy the
satisfaction of seeing America indulge in protracted, ritualized grief,
as opposed telling the public to put its game face on?
Some might see this as an illustration of the terminal Oprah-ification of
America, which isn't a bad point, as far as it goes.
Others of more militaristic cast of mind would see in this saccharine
spectacle proof positive of the liberal media's determination to weaken
our resolve. That charge that would make sense were it not for the very
visible efforts of the White House to orchestrate and exploit the
observances.
This is not to say that the emotions so prominently displayed during the
past two days are inauthentic, or unworthy. Thousands of families were
deprived of loved ones, whole communities were torn apart, and our nation
suffered a huge and lasting trauma on that terrible Tuesday
morning.
But if our nation really were engaged in a death struggle with a devious
and ruthless foreign adversary capable of destroying our way of life,
today's grief-wallow would make no sense at all. 
I do not mean denigrate those who lost loved ones on 9-11. I must
confess, however, to be puzzled as to why the losses suffered on Black
Tuesday are considered so much more painful than those – in terms of dead
and wounded, as well as the mounting economic toll – inflicted on our
nation by the Bush regime's demented war in Iraq.
More Americans have been killed and maimed as a result of the Iraq war
than died on 9-11. 
We're told that al-Qaeda is prepared to strike us again at the next
opportunity, which may or may not be true. (Since this warning comes from
the regime, I'm inclined toward skepticism.) 
But we are told unambiguously that our Enemy in Washington fully intends
to continue sending Americans abroad to kill and die in pointless wars,
while continuing its campaign to build an American Reich.
Toward that end, the regime needs to propagate as much fear and pathos as
possible, and is collaborating with our foreign “Enemy” to generate it.
This is why rather than telling the public, “Butch it up!” our Rulers
yesterday made it a pseudo-patriotic duty to revel in grief and
helplessness.
Our Rulers need us to be scared. And they're the real Enemy. Nothing
al-Qaeda or like-minded Jihadists could inflict on us – not “another
9-11,” not even a mass terrorist attack an order of magnitude greater
than that event -- could possibly rival the damage to our institutions of
ordered liberty being done by the power-crazed people infesting our
executive branch. 
“We already absorb a great deal of tragedy and unpleasantness and still
manage to survive,” observes John Mueller of the Cato Institute in

a d

The Plan

2011-09-10 Thread MJ



The Plan 
by L. Neil Smith 
ln...@netzero.com 
THE PROBLEM 
The United States of America are in trouble. To some, it is a horrible
surprise. Many others have helplessly watched it coming for years.

At the most fundamental levels, with regard to its continued national and
cultural existence, in both economic and philosophical terms, this
country is in vastly worse danger at this moment, than it was during the
so-called Great Depression or the War Between the States. More and more,
it appears that the destruction of the American economy and the
civilization it supports was a deliberately calculated act. 
No fewer than fifteen decades of federal government usurpation and
mismanagement -- culminating in the most openly rapacious and criminal
administrations in its history -- have brought the nation to this point.
Of the ruling parties, the Democrats are arguably the worst offenders in
this regard, relentlessly expanding the power and scope of government,
invariably at the expense of the personal freedom and individual
enterprise this country was supposed to have been all about. 
The War Century was largely a Democratic century. 
While Republicans properly criticize the many shortcomings of the
Democrats, they systematically and hypocritically overlook or ignore
their own part in the destruction of a civilization that once stood as
the brightest hope for all Mankind. Both have conspired together to block
any third party that might have set America on a different course, one
more consistent with the dreams and aspirations of its Founders.

In any event, this essay is about what needs to be done, without regard
to who might actually do it, Democrat, Republican, or anybody else, with
the warning and understanding that if it doesn't get done, America is
doomed, the rest of the world will inexorably follow, and our species is
about to plunge into a long, dark night that may never end. 
THE SOLUTION 
It may come as an annoyance to individuals who think of themselves as
"nuts and bolts" problem-solvers that in the field of practical
economics, expectations can be just as important as actualities. To them,
I'm sure that sounds indistinguishable from the very cynical observation
that in politics, perception is more important than reality. 
But the fact is that people in an economic context have to be able to
plan, and to do that, they have to make guesses about a future which, at
best, is always murky, and which, muddled by halfwitted, hamfisted,
off-and-on government interference, becomes impossible to predict.

America is in a Depression, and more loans, to the banks or from the
banks, more money-printing­more debt­aren't going to get it out. Make no
mistake about who is responsible for what happened. For decades, both
parties spent vastly more than the government took in, creating debt­with
interest­that had be paid by printing paper money and generating credit
where there was no real wealth to back it up. 
The mortal blow to America's future came when lending institutions were
forced by Congress, first under the Carter Administration, and then again
under the Clinton Administration, to make home loans to individuals they
knew perfectly would be unable to pay them back. Naturally, as defaults
and foreclosures started to pile up, the banks began to fail, which
caused a cascade­an avalanche­of other failures. 
It didn't help that by then, the country was embroiled in two illegal,
expensive, and irrational wars in the middle east, initiated for the most
cynical of reasons, using the atrocity of 9/11 as an excuse. 
In any case, the financial collapse was in no way the fault of capitalism
or the market system, as the opportunistic left which bears the real
guilt­and its whorish media presently claim, but of a command-and-control
system which, no less than that of the late, unlamented Soviets, was
doomed to collapse of its own unbearable weight. 
The current administration has done nothing right and everything wrong;
increasing numbers of individuals think it isn't any accident. What's
actually needed is a stability of expectations, and an end to the lethal
drain on the country's resources that government, in fact, represents.

TAXES 
The first, most important thing that anyone in charge should do is
declare a universal tax amnesty. All past debts to government at any
level will be null and void. That alone would be sufficient to stop the
plunge, trigger growth, and start businesses and industry hiring again.

Any government shortfalls caused by this policy should be dealt with, not
by more deficit spending, but by serious reductions in government
activity, by downsizing personnel, and by liquidation of assets.

And that's just for practice. The next step, to be announced at the same
time as the amnesty­aimed at restoring predictability to the market while
infusing it with cash (or, rather, allowing it to infuse itself), without
government loans or further inflation­must be a total moratorium on every
form of taxation,

The Republican Reagan Epiphany

2011-09-10 Thread MJ



The Republican Reagan Epiphany

by Ilana Mercer on
09.09.11 
“Southerners are extremely patriotic,”

said Ann Coulter on Fox News Business, while explaining the
phenomenon of a Southern Democrat (like
Rick Perry), who has
always been far more conservative than the northern Republican.
“[Southern Democrats] were not going to remain with the party of
George
McGovern,” observed Coulter, who is, arguably, the Republican
Party’s most powerful and most devoted pundit. 
That’s a little deceptive. Is it at all possible that the

much-maligned

 Southern Democrat has found it hard to join the party of Abraham
Lincoln? Perish the thought! 
Ann Coulter says, correctly­and at last­that Ronald Reagan should not be
held up as “the touchstone for every [other Republican] candidate.” If
only Ms.Coulter was capable of arriving at a similar epiphany about
Lincoln, but that would demand too much by way of

philosophical integrity.

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Why They Hate Us

2011-09-10 Thread MJ


"Instead of listening or asking
questions, the reaction of the United States [Government] has been bomb
first, don’t listen or ask questions, and then bomb later -- and invade,
occupy, torture, maim, kill, incarcerate, rendition, assassinate, and
destroy property and infrastructure."
Why They Hate Us
by Laurence M. Vance

"Today, our fellow citizens, our way of life, our
very freedom came under attack in a series of deliberate and deadly
terrorist acts. . . . America was targeted for attack because we’re the
brightest beacon for freedom and opportunity in the world." --

George W. Bush, address to the nation, September 11, 2001
"They hate our freedoms: our freedom of religion, our freedom of
speech, our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with each
other." --

George W. Bush, address to Congress, September 20, 2001
Of all the lies of the Bush administration used to justify the wars
in Iraq and Afghanistan, this one has proven to be the most enduring --
and the most wrong.
According to a 2004
report on
strategic communication prepared by the
Defense Science Board Task
Force, "a federal advisory committee established to provide
independent advice to the secretary of defense":

American direct intervention in the Muslim World has paradoxically
elevated the stature of and support for radical Islamists, while
diminishing support for the United States to single-digits in some Arab
societies.
Muslims do not "hate our freedom," but rather, they hate
our policies. The overwhelming majority voice their objections to what
they see as one-sided support in favor of Israel and against Palestinian
rights, and the longstanding, even increasing support for what Muslims
collectively see as tyrannies, most notably Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan,
Pakistan, and the Gulf states.
Furthermore, in the eyes of Muslims, American occupation of
Afghanistan and Iraq has not led to democracy there, but only more chaos
and suffering. U.S. actions appear in contrast to be motivated by
ulterior motives, and deliberately controlled in order to best serve
American national interests at the expense of truly Muslim
selfdetermination.
Therefore, the dramatic narrative since 9/11 has essentially borne
out the entire radical Islamist bill of particulars. American actions and
the flow of events have elevated the authority of the Jihadi insurgents
and tended to ratify their legitimacy among Muslims. Fighting groups
portray themselves as the true defenders of an Ummah (the entire Muslim
community) invaded and under attack – to broad public support.
A 2006
National
Intelligence Estimate concluded that the war in Iraq increased the
threat of terrorism rather than reduced it. "Trends in Global
Terrorism: Implications for the United States" points out the
"centrality" of the U.S. invasion of Iraq in fomenting
terrorist cells and attacks and describes how the American presence in
Iraq has helped spread radical Islam by providing a focal point for
anti-Americanism.
According to

Michael Scheuer, who headed the CIA’s bin Laden unit from 1996 to
1999: "In the long run, we're not safer because we’re still
operating on the assumption that we’re hated because of our freedoms,
when in fact we’re hated because of our actions in the Islamic world.
There’s our military presence in Islamic countries, the perception that
we control the Muslim world’s oil production, our support for Israel and
for countries that oppress Muslims such as China, Russia, and India, and
our own support for Arab tyrannies."

Peter Bergen, who produced the first television interview with Osama
Bin Laden in 1997, says "that in all the tens of thousands of words
uttered by bin Laden, he was strangely silent about American freedoms and
values. He didn’t seem to care very much about the beliefs of the
‘crusaders.’ His focus was invariably on U.S. foreign policy in the
Middle East."
Political scientist
James
Payne, in a review of twenty-four official pronouncements of Osama
bin Laden from 1994-2004, found that 72 percent of the content amounted
to "criticism of the United States and other Western countries for
their aggression against Muslim lands and the need to defend against and
punish this aggression." Only 1 percent criticized American culture
or the American way of life.
If we really want to know why American is hated by terrorists,
insurgents, jihadists, militants, and Islamofascists, then we should just
ask them. Actually, we don’t even need to ask, just listen. 
Listen to Osama bin Laden, the late leader of al Qaeda. First, from his

1996 fatwa:

It should not be hidden from you that the people of Islam had
suffered from aggression, iniquity and injustice imposed on them by the
Zionist-Crusaders alliance and their collaborators; to the extent that
the Muslims blood became the cheapest and their wealth as loot in the
hands of the enemies. Their blood was spilled in Palestine and Iraq. The
horrifying pictures of the massacre of Qana, in Lebanon are still fresh
in our memory. Massacre

Fwd: Face it Republicans (and Democrats)...Chris Matthews is right.

2011-09-10 Thread Bruce Majors
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Chris Matthews Admits Social Security is a Ponzi scheme

September 9, 2011

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On MSNBC’s Thursday broadcast of “Hardball,” host Chris Matthews committed
the mortal sin — he nearly parroted the theory that mortified so many of the
network’s hosts and guests throughout the day. Matthews called Social
Security “a Ponzi scheme” the day after Republican Texas Gov. Rick Perry
doubled down on his previous statements echoing that sentiment in the
Republican debate.

Matthews first put forth what he thought Social Security was originally
intended to be: “You pay for it while you work. When you retired and have no
other form of income, this will help you out. In fact, a lot were
impoverished in the old days without Social Security. It’s a great
anti-poverty program. But then people started to live past 65.

“Today, lots of people fortunately make it past 65,” he said. “They live
into their 80s and 90s. They’re still getting checks. The system doesn’t
work that way anymore. It’s not as healthy as it once was. So, how does a
Republican deal with the fact it is a Ponzi scheme in the sense that the
money that’s paid out every day is coming from people who have paid in that
day. It’s not being made somewhere.”

Indeed Chris...how does anyone not say it's bankrupt, that Roosevelt
overrode the Congresses will to put it into privately insured accounts and
out of the hands of Washington, that it needs to be overhauled and that the
media and congressmen stop lying to the public by saying otherwise.

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