[pollen] Beautiful Racket

2016-10-14 Thread Tom Brooke
Matthew and others

I assume Beautiful Racket is written with Pollen. I looked at it a while 
back and worked through the  the one section and I haven't checked again 
until yesterday - Amazing. A beautiful sight and apparently it isn't 
finished yet.

If you are Matthew great job if you aren't Matthew check it out.

I know this has been discussed before but I would be interested in the 
mechanics of deploying it and assuming it is becoming a book, moving from 
Pollen to an Ebook or paper book.





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Re: [pollen] Beautiful Racket

2016-10-14 Thread Matthew Butterick

On Oct 14, 2016, at 6:00 AM, Tom Brooke  wrote:

> I assume Beautiful Racket is written with Pollen. I looked at it a while back 
> and worked through the  the one section and I haven't checked again until 
> yesterday - Amazing. A beautiful sight and apparently it isn't finished yet.
> 
> If you are Matthew great job if you aren't Matthew check it out.
> 
> I know this has been discussed before but I would be interested in the 
> mechanics of deploying it and assuming it is becoming a book, moving from 
> Pollen to an Ebook or paper book.

Thank you Tom. Yes it is all Pollen (of course). When it's done I'll put up the 
source (though the basic template was derived from this [1])

As with Practical Typography, I consider the Pollen version to be the "real" 
book. Once I get Quad off the ground, I could see using that to make a PDF that 
could be printed on demand.



[1] http://unitscale.com/mb/technique/dual-typed-untyped-library.html

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Re: [pollen] Beautiful Racket

2016-10-15 Thread Junsong Li
Oh yeah. That's BEAUTIFUL. Awesome!

On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Matthew Butterick  wrote:

>
> On Oct 14, 2016, at 6:00 AM, Tom Brooke  wrote:
>
> > I assume Beautiful Racket is written with Pollen. I looked at it a while
> back and worked through the  the one section and I haven't checked again
> until yesterday - Amazing. A beautiful sight and apparently it isn't
> finished yet.
> >
> > If you are Matthew great job if you aren't Matthew check it out.
> >
> > I know this has been discussed before but I would be interested in the
> mechanics of deploying it and assuming it is becoming a book, moving from
> Pollen to an Ebook or paper book.
>
> Thank you Tom. Yes it is all Pollen (of course). When it's done I'll put
> up the source (though the basic template was derived from this [1])
>
> As with Practical Typography, I consider the Pollen version to be the
> "real" book. Once I get Quad off the ground, I could see using that to make
> a PDF that could be printed on demand.
>
>
>
> [1] http://unitscale.com/mb/technique/dual-typed-untyped-library.html
>
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[pollen] Beautiful Racket 1.0

2017-03-17 Thread 'Paulo Matos' via Pollen
Matthew,

Great job with Beautiful Racket 1.0, makes the top in hacker news. For
those of us who like to hold a beautiful book, what would be the best
way to go from Beautiful Racket as you created to Beautiful Racket in
dead tree form and still preserve it's beautiful-ness?

I am unsure if the sources are available but in any case I assume you
could, possibly, provide a PDF from which a hardbook could be printed?

Thanks,
-- 
Paulo Matos

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Re: [pollen] Beautiful Racket 1.0

2017-03-17 Thread Matthew Butterick

> Great job with Beautiful Racket 1.0, makes the top in hacker news. For
> those of us who like to hold a beautiful book, what would be the best
> way to go from Beautiful Racket as you created to Beautiful Racket in
> dead tree form and still preserve it's beautiful-ness?
> 
> I am unsure if the sources are available but in any case I assume you
> could, possibly, provide a PDF from which a hardbook could be printed?



Though I love printed books, and buy many, I have no plans to make BR into a 
printed book. And definitely not a PDF or ebook. [1]

If you're asking more broadly about how to go from Pollen to print, Joel Dueck 
is the expert on this. [2]

If the web is ever going to be taken seriously as a book-publishing platform, 
then there's no shortcut other than using it to publish books (and refusing 
these inferior alternatives). [3]

That's not just a political posture. Even more so than with Practical 
Typography, I really enjoyed the reading experience I could create on the web 
that just wouldn't be possible with print / PDF / ebook. Especially because 
Racket has such extensive online documentation — readers can detour into that, 
then return to BR and continue. This is the best representation of the idea.

Moreover, the point of the book is to spread the word about Racket. Right now, 
people on six continents are making their first Racket languages. I couldn't 
get that reach with a printed book.




[1] http://beautifulracket.com/why-you-should-pay.html 


[2] https://thelocalyarn.com/excursus/secretary/ 


[3] http://practicaltypography.com/why-theres-no-e-book-or-pdf.html 


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Re: [pollen] Beautiful Racket 1.0

2017-03-18 Thread Junsong Li
Congrats, Matthew! Beautifully done!

On Mar 17, 2017 1:07 PM, "Matthew Butterick"  wrote:

>
> Great job with Beautiful Racket 1.0, makes the top in hacker news. For
> those of us who like to hold a beautiful book, what would be the best
> way to go from Beautiful Racket as you created to Beautiful Racket in
> dead tree form and still preserve it's beautiful-ness?
>
> I am unsure if the sources are available but in any case I assume you
> could, possibly, provide a PDF from which a hardbook could be printed?
>
>
>
> Though I love printed books, and buy many, I have no plans to make BR into
> a printed book. And definitely not a PDF or ebook. [1]
>
> If you're asking more broadly about how to go from Pollen to print, Joel
> Dueck is the expert on this. [2]
>
> If the web is ever going to be taken seriously as a book-publishing
> platform, then there's no shortcut other than using it to publish books
> (and refusing these inferior alternatives). [3]
>
> That's not just a political posture. Even more so than with Practical
> Typography, I really enjoyed the reading experience I could create on the
> web that just wouldn't be possible with print / PDF / ebook. Especially
> because Racket has such extensive online documentation — readers can detour
> into that, then return to BR and continue. This is the best representation
> of the idea.
>
> Moreover, the point of the book is to spread the word about Racket. Right
> now, people on six continents are making their first Racket languages. I
> couldn't get that reach with a printed book.
>
>
>
>
> [1] http://beautifulracket.com/why-you-should-pay.html
>
> [2] https://thelocalyarn.com/excursus/secretary/
>
> [3] http://practicaltypography.com/why-theres-no-e-book-or-pdf.html
>
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